5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

[Reds Fanatic]

Starting Lineups:


Lineups

Reds (20 - 11)
1st in NL Central
Diamondbacks (18 - 13)
1st in NL West

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. Q McCracken, CF .190 1 1 1
2. F Lopez, SS .260 4 13 11
3. A Dunn, LF .238 11 19 0
4. E Encarnacion, 3B .300 4 25 0
5. S Hatteberg, 1B .278 1 4 0
6. A Kearns, RF .313 5 21 2
7. B Phillips, 2B .293 3 23 5
8. J LaRue, C .250 1 4 0
9. D Williams, P .143 0 0 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. E Byrnes, CF .293 1 7 2
2. O Hudson, 2B .227 0 4 4
3. C Tracy, 3B .306 6 22 1
4. L Gonzalez, LF .243 5 20 0
5. C Jackson, 1B .294 3 16 0
6. D Easley, SS .255 2 10 0
7. S Green, RF .324 2 6 3
8. C Snyder, C .281 2 9 0
9. O Hernandez, P .333 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
D Williams 1 2 7.61 2.03 9

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
O Hernandez 2 3 6.39 1.55 37

[KronoRed]

I'd prefer Deno leading off.

[Falls City Beer]

I'd move Larue into the 4th spot. Put EE in the 2 spot and Lopez in the fifth spot. I want my two reliable hitters hitting 2 and 3 in the lineup.

In fact, Deno should be playing instead of Kearns.

[kyred14]

That lineup sucks...........

[OnBaseMachine]

McCracken leading off. :laugh:

Way to give them an automatic out to leadoff the first inning.

[reds44]

ewwww.

Why does Crack keep playing over Deno?

[KronoRed]

ewwww.

Why does Crack keep playing over Deno?
Solid vet status

[OnBaseMachine]

Just send Denorfia back down where he can gets some atbats. No use in him riding the bench while Quinton McCracken gets all the playing time.

[Falls City Beer]

Just send Denorfia back down where he can gets some atbats. No use in him riding the bench while Quinton McCracken gets all the playing time.

I don't think McCracken's playing is the problem. I think Kearns' playing is the problem. Though I would put Deno at the top of the order and McCracken in Kearns' spot.

[OnBaseMachine]

I don't think McCracken's playing is the problem. I think Kearns' playing is the problem. Though I would put Deno at the top of the order and McCracken in Kearns' spot.

Huh?

You want to bench Kearns?

[Falls City Beer]

Huh?

You want to bench Kearns?

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.

[reds44]

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

A Kearns, RF .313 5 21 2

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns is batting .409 in May.

[reds44]

Kearns is batting .409 in May.
owned

[Elam]

I don't think McCracken's playing is the problem. I think Kearns' playing is the problem. Though I would put Deno at the top of the order and McCracken in Kearns' spot.
I'm sorry I don't follow. Kearns line of .313/375/.522/.897 isn't too shabby plus Deno in CF and Kearns in RF has better overall defense.

[pedro]

I don't think McCracken's playing is the problem. I think Kearns' playing is the problem. Though I would put Deno at the top of the order and McCracken in Kearns' spot.


why?

Kearns is hitting .409 /.435/.500/.935 for the month.

[OnBaseMachine]

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.

He's hitting .313/.375/.522 including a .409/.435/.500 May. How is that a downward spiral?

He has been one of our top two or three hitters this year.

[CTA513]

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.

Hes hitting .361 over the last 10 games.

[pedro]

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.

Your lack of confidence in Kearns has no boundaries does it?

[OnBaseMachine]

I've been absolutely baffled by the criticism Kearns has received on this board this year. Dude is OPSing right around .900 just as I thought he would.

[Falls City Beer]

His OB has been fine. His slugging has dropped .100 points since April 21st. He's been reduced to the singles/occasional doubles hitter that he's become. And we all saw what Sean Casey got us in trade.

[KronoRed]

The one to trade is Freel.

[The_jbh]

Plus Kearns is the only solid defensive OF we have.

Why is Denorfia here if McCracken is going to play? Seriously I'd rather see McCracken in Louisville

[westofyou]

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.He has 6 2 hit games in the last 8, since 4-29 his OB% has gone up 29 points and his slugging is the exact same.

Are we alll watching the same games?

[pedro]

He's in an absolute downward spiral. Right now, I'd do anything to keep his worth artificially inflated.

You are the winner of my new award. It's a called a "Potter". You get it for being as curmudgeonly as Old Man Potter from "It's a Wonderful Life".

Congratulations!

http://www.irioti.com/oldmanpotteraward.jpg

[OnBaseMachine]

His OB has been fine. His slugging has dropped .100 points since April 21st. He's been reduced to the singles/occasional doubles hitter that he's become. And we all saw what Sean Casey got us in trade.

Kearns' homers come in bunches. He's always been like that, even in 2002 and 2003.

If FCB were Reds GM, he would trade Kearns for Josh Hancock. ;)

[pedro]

His OB has been fine. His slugging has dropped .100 points since April 21st. He's been reduced to the singles/occasional doubles hitter that he's become. And we all saw what Sean Casey got us in trade.

when it was .614 !

:bang:

[reds44]

The one to trade is Freel.
Yep.

[Falls City Beer]

Kearns' homers come in bunches. He's always been like that, even in 2002 and 2003.

If FCB were Reds GM, he would trade Kearns for Josh Hancock. ;)

We wouldn't have to; Hancock'd be pitching the 8th nning for Javier Vazquez or Zito.

[Falls City Beer]

when it was .614 !

:bang:

Trends. Seeing the trend before the reality hits.

[The_jbh]

His OB has been fine. His slugging has dropped .100 points since April 21st. He's been reduced to the singles/occasional doubles hitter that he's become. And we all saw what Sean Casey got us in trade.

When did Sean Casey ever have 5 HRs in April

I like the new lighter weight Kearns who is great in the field because he isn't chugalugging around and is now slightly above average on the basepaths but hits a little less HRs. Hes gonna be a .300 25 95 guy with near gold glove defense in RF for a long time IMO

I saw him on real reds yesterday and wow did he look better than last year, looked pretty ripped, way thinner in the face, he really made an effort to condition this off season. I like it, i think the thinner version exploits his strengths better

[pedro]

Dude, you've absolutely lost it.

[reds44]

Dude, you've absolutely lost it.
COuld have told you that a long time ago.

[Falls City Beer]

Dude, you've absolutely lost it.

Is that absolutely necessary? Honestly.

He looks like a judy hitter out there. What can I say? He hasn't had a respectable season in three years, and I'm the batso one for being skeptical?

[OnBaseMachine]

At this time in two weeks Kearns will probably have somewhere around 10 homers. As I said, his homers come in bunches and he's about due for one of those streaks.

In July, put together one of the hottest streaks by any player in baseball...from 7/16-7/29 was named the International League Player of the Week in consecutive weeks...in July led all minor leaguers with 14 HR, and from 7/17-7/27 homered in 11 of 12 games (.568, 12 HR, 24 RBIs), including a 10-game homer streak from 7/17-7/24 (10 HR, 24 RBIs)...ten-game homer streak was a Midwest League record and the longest in the minor leagues in 2000...from 7/22-7/24 reached base safely in 14 consecutive plate appearances (9 H, 5 BB), the longest streak in the minor leagues in 2000...on 7/21 vs. Lansing, had five hits.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player_career.jsp?player_id=400290&y=2000

[westofyou]

Is that absolutely necessary? Honestly.

He looks like a judy hitter out there. What can I say? He hasn't had a respectable season in three years, and I'm the batso one for being skeptical?
He's getting hits, he doesn't cost a zillion bucks and he's fielding dandy (nice throw last night) Looks like he's playing baseball to me.

[The_jbh]

Is that absolutely necessary? Honestly.

He looks like a judy hitter out there. What can I say? He hasn't had a respectable season in three years, and I'm the batso one for being skeptical?


injuries and weight problems, he is a completely new player this year, back to where he was in the minors where he exploited his speed and athleticism not trying to be Adam Dunn at 245lbs and launching HRS. He was never projected as a 40 HR guy

[Falls City Beer]

injuries and weight problems, he is a completely new player this year

Where have I heard that one before?

[reds44]

I honestly can't recall one positive comment about anyone from FCB.

[pedro]

Is that absolutely necessary? Honestly.

He looks like a judy hitter out there. What can I say? He hasn't had a respectable season in three years, and I'm the batso one for being skeptical?


Really, no offense intented FCB. I just think you're pushing this past the point of logic. You'll be the first to get credit if you're right though.

[Falls City Beer]

I honestly can't recall one positive comment about anyone from FCB.

:rolleyes:

I can tell you my praise isn't going to start with you.

[bthomasiscool]

This reminds me of the time when I made up some story to impress some of my friends at college. Unfortunately a friend caught me in a lie, I tried to dig myself out, but just kept coming up with excuses and digging deeper;)

[OnBaseMachine]

I honestly can't recall one positive comment about anyone from FCB.

Is it necessary to pile it on?

You seem to think you are the only poster on here who can have an opinion.

[pedro]

I honestly can't recall one positive comment about anyone from FCB.


Hey now, FCB is a solid poster around here, despite his trepidation to all things Kearns.

[Caveat Emperor]

Alright, I suffered through the most boring commencement ceremony I can ever recall being at (and that includes 8th grade "graduation" from St. Andrews in Milford) -- I need a Reds victory today.

Win, or I start posting cap and gown pictures! :devil:

[KittyDuran]

I think we need to challenge FCB [regarding Kearns] to wager another child - something like "35 HRs from sainthood" [sainthood for Chambliss]...:laugh:

Like this thread::devil:
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2162

[westofyou]

(and that includes 8th grade "graduation" from St. Andrews in Milford)Is that the dark brick dandy with the boys and girls entrance off of the big playground that takes up the corner up near where Lees Famous Recipe used to be?

[paintmered]

Alright, let's knock it off with the personal stuff.

[Falls City Beer]

Speaking of praise, I'm one who consistently defends this offense against the caterwauling of the unwashed masses who think the bats and RISP and Dunn are the problems with this club.

You want to attack an idiotic position, there are plenty of good, good targets.

[KittyDuran]

Really, no offense intented FCB. I just think you're pushing this past the point of logic. You'll be the first to get credit if you're right though.I think that's what he's driving for...:p:

[Caveat Emperor]

Is that the dark brick dandy with the boys and girls entrance off of the big playground that takes up the corner up near where Lees Famous Recipe used to be?

That's the former Milford Middle School (now scheduled for demolition) -- St. Andrews is the school right to the side of that. I did time at both instituations.

[westofyou]

That's the former Milford Middle School (now scheduled for demolition) -- St. Andrews is the school right to the side of that. I did time at both instituations.
I bet you got to go to Johnnys Toys when you were a good boy eh?

[OnBaseMachine]

Jeff Piecoro just said remember to always lead with the knob. :ughmamoru

[The_jbh]

haha i laughed too when I heard that and thought wow i'm childish

im glad im not the only one :D

[Caveat Emperor]

I bet you got to go to Johnnys Toys when you were a good boy eh?

We referred to it as the "Toy Store that Time Forgot" because it was never packed like Toys 'R Us used to be.

Though, they did do good sales during Milford's "Founders Day" parades -- I bought a couple Nintendo games on discount to try and save a little allowance money off the retail price.

[westofyou]

Milford's "Founders Day" parades I had a Buffalo Burger and watched a fight at the last Founders Day celebration I attended.

[reds44]

Is it necessary to pile it on?

You seem to think you are the only poster on here who can have an opinion.
You can have an opinion, as long as it's the same as mine.

:devil:

[CTA513]

Astros are down 4-1 after 5 innings. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Great leadoff hitting by McCracken swinging at the 1st pitch.

[OnBaseMachine]

Awesome patience there by McCracken. Brilliant Narron!

[KronoRed]

1 out and before I even get to the right channel

[reds44]

scrappy

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez singles to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez is thrown out trying to steal second.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn walks.

[The_jbh]

Dunn doing what does best, getting on base

[pahster]

Looks like Lopez wasn't actually tagged.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hernandez has an ERA over 10 at home this year. Let's see if the offense can do something against him.

[THNDRacket]

Strange. No team from the NL Central has a winning record against any team in the NL West.

Only the Cardinals haven't played a Western Division team yet.

[Reds Fanatic]

Here we go with Williams - Byrnes leads off with a double to left.

[reds44]

Good start

Dunn is a special fiedler, and Williams is a special pitcher.

[OSURedLeg]

The problem I have here with Williams (as he has Hudson 0-2) is that he just flat out doesn't have an out pitch.

[THNDRacket]

If Dunn has such trouble picking up a perfectly round ball, how did he ever think he could hold onto a football?

[Reds Fanatic]

Williams was ahead 0-2 on Hudson and ends up walking him. 1st and 2nd.

[THNDRacket]

Setting up a triple play possibility

[OnBaseMachine]

I have better stuff than Williams.

[OSURedLeg]

No surprise, Hudson walks after being down 0-2 because Williams just doesn't have anything that can put hitters away - or at least cause them to make weak contact.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good diving catch by McCracken. 1 out.

[OSURedLeg]

Nice catch by McCrackin - 1 Down

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez lines out to center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Error on Encarnacion loads the bases.

[OnBaseMachine]

Good grief. You can't give the opposing team extra outs especially when Dave Williams is pitching.

[Falls City Beer]

As I said in another thread, Hernandez has been brutally unlucky so far this year. He's striking people out like mad (37 in 32 innings), but he's giving up hits at a very high rate. It's bound to even out some. Probably today.

[The_jbh]

30 mins ago i said in another thread i thought almost every error EE has made has been throwing and there he goes making an error fielding the ball... i forgot to knock on wood

[Cedric]

The Reds are definately in a mini funk lately. Bad defense, mental breakdowns, and some wildly impatient at bats.

[OSURedLeg]

One of the prices the Reds pay to give EdE playing time is that he's going to make mistakes like that in the infield, so it should come as no surprise. Take the good with the bad as he learns his craft.

[saboforthird]

I'm hoping and praying that errors don't turn this thing into another blowout loss. What can you say when the ball gets caught BEHIND your foot? :rolleyes:

[The_jbh]

shooo, crisis adverted

[Reds Fanatic]

Easley grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice. Good play by Lopez. 0-0 after 1.

[saboforthird]

The Reds are definately in a mini funk lately. Bad defense, mental breakdowns, and some wildly impatient at bats.

I am new to this OBP and OPS stuff, but could it have anything to do with the Reds missing a legitimate bat in the middle of the lineup? It just seems to me (can't support it with facts) that throwing the likes of Hatteberg and Freel out there day in and day out is bound to haunt you.

[Patrick Bateman]

SUggesting that Kearns will evetually "come down to earth" is a matter of opinion and defensible based on past history.

Suggesting that such freefall has already begun is, IMO, not consistent with the recent actual hitting results of Kearns.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg flies out to center. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns just misses a homer as he doubles off the top of the wall in left.

[OSURedLeg]

Time to serve up some crow for today's Kearns haters ;)

[captainmorgan07]

right on time kearns coming back to earth haters can now rethink there opinions

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips pops out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[MWM]

One thing I do agree with FCB on is that I'd like to see Krivsky flip Kearns when his value reaches a peak this year. I really don't think he'll keep these numbers up this year. I hope I'm dead wrong and I very well might be, but if Austin can bring a good pitcher in return, I'd do it yesterday.

[OSURedLeg]

I was actually pretty impressed with the patience Phillips showed there, taking the count to 3-1. Sadly, the result was an ugly pop up. Hopefully he continues to work the count though, because I think it's going to pay off as the season progresses.

[KronoRed]

I have better stuff than Williams.
Why aren't you out there? holding out? :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to Larue.

[OnBaseMachine]

Kearns was inches away from a HR. I knew they wouldn't score after that ball hit the wall. When this team slumps it goes all out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Williams strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 2nd.

[OSURedLeg]

Kearns was inches away from a HR. I knew they wouldn't score after that ball hit the wall. When this team slumps it goes all out.

What goes up, must come down. Did anyone here really think the offense would continue to rack up 7 or 8 runs a game all season? I agree it would be nice to see some consistency in run production, but that's not the way we're built. This is an offense built around power, and power is sporadic.

[OnBaseMachine]

Why aren't you out there? holding out? :D

Not scrappy enough.

[Falls City Beer]

What goes up, must come down. Did anyone here really think the offense would continue to rack up 7 or 8 runs a game all season? I agree it would be nice to see some consistency in run production, but that's not the way we're built. This is an offense built around power, and power is sporadic.

Yep.

[Reds Fanatic]

Green grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Patrick Bateman]

What goes up, must come down. Did anyone here really think the offense would continue to rack up 7 or 8 runs a game all season? I agree it would be nice to see some consistency in run production, but that's not the way we're built. This is an offense built around power, and power is sporadic.

No team has consistent run production.

It doesn't matter whether or not you average 3,4,5 or 6 runs a game, you'll have your big days and your off days.

[OnBaseMachine]

What goes up, must come down. Did anyone here really think the offense would continue to rack up 7 or 8 runs a game all season? I agree it would be nice to see some consistency in run production, but that's not the way we're built. This is an offense built around power, and power is sporadic.

Nope, I didn't. However, I didn't expect the offense to score 0 runs, 7 runs, 1 run, 1 run, and so far 0 runs in good hitters parks. I knew they would fall back to earth at some point but not during this roadtrip.

[Reds Fanatic]

Snyder grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

Nope, I didn't. However, I didn't expect the offense to score 0 runs, 7 runs, 1 run, 1 run, and so far 0 runs in good hitters parks. I knew they would fall back to earth at some point but not during this roadtrip.

Where else but a west coast road trip?

[KronoRed]

Could be worse

Remember the west coast trip to Oakland? ;)

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Wooooo! Look at Willy bringin the cheese; I mean EIGHTY-SEVEN! Can you even see the ball at that speed?

Then again, if he keeps getting ahead 0-2 on everyone, I'm ok with it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez lines out to 1st. 0-0 after 2.

[OnBaseMachine]

Could be worse

Remember the west coast trip to Oakland? ;)

Didn't the A's score, like, 30 runs in that series?

[OSURedLeg]

Nope, I didn't. However, I didn't expect the offense to score 0 runs, 7 runs, 1 run, 1 run, and so far 0 runs in good hitters parks. I knew they would fall back to earth at some point but not during this roadtrip.

Nor did I, but if we win today we can pull a 2-3 record out of an ugly road trip where the defense and hitting has been attrocious. As long as we right the ship upon return to Cinci, I don't see a reason to panick just yet.

[Reds Fanatic]

McCracken singles to right.

[OSURedLeg]

McCrackin with a single to open the 3rd

[Big Klu]

Q leads off with a single through the right side!

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez doubles to the right field corner. 1-0 Reds.

[OnBaseMachine]

Good to see Lopez hitting again.

[OSURedLeg]

Clutch double by Lopez scores McCrackin

[OSURedLeg]

Dunner 3 - 0

[Falls City Beer]

Good to see Lopez hitting again.

No doubt. If the Reds are going to hang around, he's going to have to come around.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn homers to right. 3-0 Reds!!

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn homers!!!

[reds44]

Adam Bomb!!!!!

[Falls City Beer]

There's the offense we all know and love. :)

[captainmorgan07]

good dave needs some more run support he hasn't had his big inning yet

[MWM]

Dunner just can't get anything right. The Reds had a rally going and he went and killed it with a HR.....and with RISP to boot.

[OSURedLeg]

That Dunn HR was with a RISP by the way :thumbup:

Darnit you beat me to it MWM

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[captainmorgan07]

ede down on strikes

[Falls City Beer]

That Dunn HR was with a RISP by the way :thumbup:

Darnit you beat me to it MWM

*crickets* :devil:

[OnBaseMachine]

Terrible strike 2 call on Hatteberg; that ball was a good six inches outside.

[Big Klu]

The Cat In The Hatte! :D

[OSURedLeg]

Hatteburg just golfed that ball 4 - 0 Reds

[CrackerJack]

Atta-berg! 4-0

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg homers to right. 4-0 Reds!!

[reds44]

The Hat!!!!

4-0!

[OnBaseMachine]

Hatteberg with a long HR!

[Falls City Beer]

Mangione mange le fastball.

[flyer85]

That is Hattys first HR and 2nd RBI cince opening day

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns fouls out to the catcher. 2 outs.

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice start....can Williams make this stand up?

[MWM]

NIce inning, but this game is far from over.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips flies out to right. 4-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[captainmorgan07]

hatte brought his golf clubs to arizona

[captainmorgan07]

bp scuffling lately

[Puffy]

That is Hattys first HR and 2nd RBI cince opening day

Ummmm, wow.

[OSURedLeg]

NIce inning, but this game is far from over.

:lastyear:

[Big Klu]

Multi-tasking!

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrnes flies out to left. 1 out.

[Big Klu]

The Horsemen ride again, as Dunn superplexes a two-run shot to RF.

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Adam Dunn - 170
11. Gus Bell - 160
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 140
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[flyer85]

Nice start....can Williams make this stand up?that is the real question. Seems like 4 isn't enough.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hudson lines a single to center.

[TheBigLebowski]

Houston down 5-2 in the 9th. Looks like COL brought out the brooms.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tracy grounds into a 1-6 fielder's choice. 2 outs.

[TheBigLebowski]

2 down, one on.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jackson lines a double to right center. 4-2 Reds.

[KronoRed]

That is Hattys first HR and 2nd RBI cince opening day
Just what you want from your 5 hitter

[Reds Fanatic]

Easley doubles to left. 4-3 Reds

[OSURedLeg]

Williams is just so bad. I can't take much more of him this season.

[OnBaseMachine]

Two runs score because Dave Williams took 25 minutes to throw the ball to second base on what should have been an easy double play.

Worst pitcher in baseball. Release him.

[6-4-3]

Dave Williams sucks, i'm sorry.

[TheBigLebowski]

4 runs definitely won't be enough.

[Falls City Beer]

Houston loses. Reds well on their way.

[djsauter]

Williams sucks.

McCrack sucks.

[KronoRed]

Didn't the A's score, like, 30 runs in that series?
40.

13-2
10-6
17-8

[OnBaseMachine]

Make that three runs now thanks to the blown DP.

[TheBigLebowski]

What the hell was O'Brien thinking when he acquired this guy? Did he not bother to actually WATCH him pitch, or scout him at all?

[OnBaseMachine]

Sweep.

1-4 roadtrip.

[Petitt33]

Breaking News: Dave Williams still sucks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Green homers to left. There goes the lead. Dbacks 5-4.

[6-4-3]

UNREAL, I can't take this crap.

[OSURedLeg]

Williams should be taken out of the game and given his walking papers immediately. HE"S TERRIBLE!!! 5-4 Arizona now leads

[CTA513]

My names Dave Williams and I suck.

[KronoRed]

Get him out of there..bring in Matt..

[OnBaseMachine]

Houston loses. Reds well on their way.

2005 Reds are back.

1-4 roadtrip in Colorado and Arizona is just sad.

[TheBigLebowski]

Get this son of a bit*h out of the game and out of a Reds uniform.

[Joseph]

And Williams is compared to Jimmy Haynes. The ultimate kiss of death.

[Falls City Beer]

He is the worst starting pitcher I've ever seen.

[Reds Fanatic]

Snyder grounds out to 3rd. 5-4 Dbacks after 3.

[MWM]

When you throw to major league hitters like Williams does, it's just a matter of when, not if.

I never thought I'd be longing for Eric Milton. Williams is every bit as bad as Jimmy Andersen or Jimmy Haynes.

[captainmorgan07]

like i said need more support dave just had his big inning and i think there's moer to come

[saboforthird]

Dave, spring training has been over for awhile. :p:

[Big Klu]

2005 Reds are back.

1-4 roadtrip in Colorado and Arizona is just sad.

Colorado and Arizona are both in first place.

[gilpdawg]

When you throw to major league hitters like Williams does, it's just a matter of when, not if.

I never thought I'd be longing for Eric Milton. Williams is every bit as bad as Jimmy Andersen or Jimmy Haynes.
I don't know, that may be an insult to Anderson and Haynes.

[NastyBoy]

I hear Jimmy Haynes is available... for cheap.

[Falls City Beer]

I simply can't conceive of a scenario wherein the Reds win today.

[reds44]

He is the worst starting pitcher I've ever seen.
What are you talking about?


Williams is good.

;)

[THNDRacket]

Pitches-strikes: Williams 56-38, Hernandez 61-32.

[MWM]

If you take away the last inning, Williams has pitched pretty well today. :evil:

[Red in Atl]

Where is his head? To allow 5 runs on two outs after your team puts you up 4 zip and this after two straight loses...absolutely pathetic!

[KronoRed]

Williams is good.


For the other team you mean :evil:

[Reds Fanatic]

Larue lines out to left. 1 out.

[OnBaseMachine]

Colorado and Arizona are both in first place.

I can't take any of those NL West teams seriously.

[captainmorgan07]

jimmy haynes had a good year in cincy than injuires hit and he fell apart

[CTA513]

If you take away the last inning, Williams has pitched pretty well today. :evil:

If you take away all of his starts he has a 0.00 ERA. :devil:

[MWM]

I simply can't conceive of a scenario wherein the Reds win today.

You forgot to give me proper citation for that statement. I expect better from someone with your background.

[Reds Fanatic]

If you take away the last inning, Williams has pitched pretty well today. :evil:
And if you ignore his whole career Williams is an all star.

[OSURedLeg]

Wow, Dave Williams up to hit. Can't wait to watch him give up some more runs.

[Falls City Beer]

OMFN God. They're keeping Williams in? :cry:

[6-4-3]

Reds have missed a golden chance to put some "space" between them and Houston during this series.

[MWM]

Did Williams just hit? Tell me I was imagining that.

[TheBigLebowski]

He's a better at hitting than pitching.

[Reds Fanatic]

Williams grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

[Big Klu]

My guess for the AFLAC trivia question: Billy Hatcher

[OnBaseMachine]

Not only is his fastball incredibly slow, so are his reactions. Any other pitcher in baseball makes that a double play, instead Williams decided to take his good ole time.

[THNDRacket]

I can't take any of those NL West teams seriously.

Well, as i mentioned earlier and you may not have seen, no team in the Central has a winning record so far against a Western division team.

[CTA513]

OMFN God. They're keeping Williams in? :cry:

They have to let him give up as many runs as possible before they use up the bullpen.

[Reds Fanatic]

McCracken singles to right.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Was the AFLAC trivia question, "In the future, what Reds coach will cause injury to Dave Williams so he has to be put on the dl rather than throw batting practice in a game?"

[OSURedLeg]

ESPN lists Williams' salary as $1.4 million. I'm wondering if Bob C has the guts to cut him and swallow that kind of money.

[Big Klu]

Was the AFLAC trivia question, "In the future, what Reds coach will cause injury to Dave Williams so he has to be put on the dl rather than throw batting practice in a game?"

Nice one...but no.

Who was the last Red to hit four doubles in one game?

[Puffy]

I loathe Dave Williams ©

[KronoRed]

Leaving Williams in is a nice way to wave the white flag.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez fouls out to 2nd. 5-4 Dbacks mid 4th.

[OnBaseMachine]

Lopez swung at ball 4. Sure would have been nice to have two on for Adam Dunn. Lopez thought otherwise.

[Cyclone792]

Dave Williams has given up 8 home runs and walked 13 batters with only 9 strikeouts for the entire season. Think about that for a second. Dave Williams has only one more strikeout than home runs allowed.

Williams has a DIPS ERA this season of 7.27. He's not just getting shelled with BABIP; he's getting shelled in every possible way to get shelled.

[MWM]

OBM, PLAYING BASEBALL IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES IS HARD. IT'S NOT EASY!

Seriously dude, chill out!

[Big Klu]

I don't like the CG McGruff. Give me the old cartoon Crime Dog anytime!

[Kc61]

This has potential to be one of the most irritating games of the year. Let's hope Reds are not down 6 by the time Williams departs.

[OSURedLeg]

Lopez swung at ball 4. Sure would have been nice to have two on for Adam Dunn. Lopez thought otherwise.

So far Lopez has played a really good game offensively and defensively. Let's not scrutinize him for 1 AB (more like 1 pitch) when we all know what the real issue is, Dave Williams' inability to pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Williams walks Hernandez.

[OnBaseMachine]

OBM, PLAYING BASEBALL IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES IS HARD. IT'S NOT EASY!

Seriously dude, chill out!

Did I say it was easy?

[NastyBoy]

I can not watch any more of this... walk to the pitcher.

[TheBigLebowski]

He walked the damned pitcher.

[MWM]

Did I say it was easy?

Not explicitly.

[OnBaseMachine]

So far Lopez has played a really good game offensively and defensively. Let's not scrutinize him for 1 AB (more like 1 pitch) when we all know what the real issue is, Dave Williams' inability to pitch.

FWIW, it was a joke.

I guess I should have used a ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Byrnes pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

[Falls City Beer]

Some games make you want to throw up in your mouth. This one makes me want to crap in my mouth.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Yikes Byrnes, smashy smashy. That poor bat.

[NastyBoy]

Williams ERA just dropped .10 with that out.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Belisle up in the pen!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hudson grounds out to short. 2 outs. Runner goes to 2nd.

[Big Klu]

Some games make you want to throw up in your mouth. This one makes me want to crap in my mouth.

That's just disgusting.

[Falls City Beer]

Put Byrnes and Hudson on suicide watch; they've just been retired by Dave Williams.

[Falls City Beer]

That's just disgusting.

Tip your waiters. :beerme: :mooner:

[OnBaseMachine]

I think Chris just called Hernandez "El Dookie".

[Big Klu]

Tip your waiters. :beerme: :mooner:

What's that supposed to mean?

[MWM]

Williams is settling into the flow of the game now. :lol:

[THNDRacket]

Williams still bringing the heat at 87

[Falls City Beer]

What's that supposed to mean?

It's a joke. You know--"try the veal" "I'll be here all week."

Just glad I could thoroughly transmit how disgusted I am with this team right now.

[OnBaseMachine]

Good news.

Dave Williams still has ERA of 0.00 in January, February, June, July, August, September, October, November, and December of 2006.

[Kc61]

Good inning by Williams. Now get him out of this ballgame.

This is the kind of pitching that cost the Reds the last 6 seasons. If Williams is really a good pitcher who needs to get on track, let him do it in Louisville.

Instead of sending messages about players' weight, time to send a message about performance.

[OnBaseMachine]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

He called that a strike.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[CTA513]

This ump likes to take 45 minutes to call balls & strikes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn strikes out looking. 1 out.