5/12/06 - Reds vs. Phillies Game Thread

[Reds Fanatic]

Starting Lineup:


Phillies (19 - 15)
2nd in NL East
Reds (23 - 12)
1st in NL Central

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. J Rollins, SS .269 4 12 6
2. C Utley, 2B .317 8 25 2
3. B Abreu, RF .264 4 23 5
4. P Burrell, LF .287 10 28 0
5. R Howard, 1B .305 9 23 0
6. S Victorino, CF .345 0 4 0
7. D Bell, 3B .260 3 10 0
8. C Ruiz, C .091 0 0 0
9. C Hamels, P - - - -

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Freel, LF .231 0 4 10
2. F Lopez, SS .299 4 15 16
3. K Griffey Jr., CF .270 3 10 0
4. A Kearns, RF .328 6 24 2
5. A Dunn, 1B .233 13 26 0
6. E Encarnacion, 3B .291 5 27 0
7. B Phillips, 2B .306 3 25 8
8. J Valentin, C .263 0 3 0
9. E Ramirez, P .200 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
C Hamels

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
E Ramirez 1 2 3.18 1.29 11

[Larry Schuler]

Nice save. :-)

[KronoRed]

Move Dunn down vs a rookie?

Rest is good.

[kheidg-]

Dunn at 1B - finally. IMO he should start there at least 2-3 times a week with Aurilia out.

[Reds1]

I'd take Kearns over dunn in the 4 hole to switch up the righty lefty. Dunn struggling a bit. I'd say the manager has done a good job with little tweaks like this. I like it.

[Falls City Beer]

I'm going to agree with others who say they're glad to see Griffey back. His frequent-contact, high power is just the element this team is lacking. They have massive patience (Dunn, Enc, Mangione) and middling contact power (Lopez, Kearns); Junior wraps it all up in one (power and contact and decent patience). Like a Junior Burrito.

[RedsMan3203]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/TigerNEC/reds.jpg

[SirFelixCat]

That is one nasty-potent offense we have in there tonight. Go welcome the rook, properly fellas ;) :beerme:

[reds44]

Welcome to Minor League night here on redszone.com. All minor league pictures all night. Your starting pitchers, and the Reds lineup will contain minor league pictures.

http://www.johnkenyon.com/img/bats_logo.jpg vs. http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0005/7997/brand.gif
Cincinnati Reds (23-12) vs. Philadelphia Phillies(19-15)


http://www.rookiesquantities.com/images/jr03_55_Base.jpg vs. http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/23/231529.jpg
Elizardo Ramirez (1-2, 3.18 ERA) vs. Cole Hamels (0-0, 0.00)

Reds lineup:
http://www.autograph-cards.com/Cards%5CBigCardsX%5C016766.jpg
Ryan Freel, LF
http://www.rookiesquantities.com/Images/J99_199.jpg
Felipe Lopez, SS
http://www.cincinnati.com/sports/griffey/photos/ph1.jpg
Ken Griffey Jr., CF
http://www.mobilebaybears.com/comersus/store/catalog/BB%20Card%20Austin%20Kearns.jpg
Austin Kearns, RF
http://www.triple-abaseball.com/images/dunna.jpg
Adam Dunn, 1B
http://www.minorleaguenews.com/graphics/baseball/Graphics/2005/08/FAB50/playerthumbs/14Encarnacion_sm.jpg
Edwin Encarnacion, 3B
http://www.baseballamerica.com/images/bphillips.jpg
Brandon Phillips, 2B
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:HN6e-byqkjOvnM:http://mayaguezindios.com/players/28_Javier_Valentin_17.jpg
Javier Valentin, C
http://www.rookiesquantities.com/images/jr03_55_Base.jpg
Elizardo Ramirez, P

[Fullboat]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:aBMkDgX20z6Z1M:www.geocities.com/movievillains/Scarface.jpg

We eat Rookies for breakfast.

[dsmith421]

That is one nasty-potent offense we have in there tonight. Go welcome the rook, properly fellas ;) :beerme:

The lineup I was screaming for before the season was this exact eight, except with Pena instead of Phillips (and Freel at 2B).

I hope they prove me right.

[dsmith421]

Incidentally, reds44, those pictures are hilarious, I'd love to see them (and others) brought out from time to time.

[Reds Fanatic]

Latest weather update from Marc's blog


Also, the tarp is off the field, though it still doesn't look real good out there.

[Doc. Scott]

Wow... it's a team with a higher ERA than the Reds'. Even though the Philly bullpen is much better at this point, the non-Myers starters have been bad enough that the Phillies have a 4.70 mark. Meanwhile, the Reds' ERA has been dropping like a stone- all the way to 4.44, good for ninth best of 16 in the league.

If we'd been ninth in ERA last season, we would have finished over .500 easily.

[dsmith421]

Here's a better picture of Junior from his days with Moeller. Hope this works...

http://www.cincinnati.com/sports/griffey/photos/ph1.jpg

[reds44]

Here's a better picture of Junior from his days with Moeller. Hope this works...

http://www.cincinnati.com/sports/griffey/photos/ph1.jpg
Very nice, let me know if you one find of Javy.

[indyred]

cool pictures

[SirFelixCat]

Couple that lineup with "The Lizard King" who has looked, at worst, decent, I think this is a huge blowout. Call it 12-3.


Or we get shut out :banghead:

[James B.]

Great lineup. :thumbup:

[Matt700wlw]

Latest weather update from Marc's blog

It looks better. Not great...but better

[Big Klu]

Dunn at 1B - finally. IMO he should start there at least 2-3 times a week with Aurilia out.

The Reds haven't seen many left-handed starters since Aurilia went on the disabled list. I figured that when Aurilia went on the DL, Hatteberg might get an occasional start against the lefties, but mostly the Reds would use Dunn at 1B and insert a righty-hitting outfielder in LF (Freel, Denorfia, or the switch-hitting McCracken) to continue the platoon.

[cumberlandreds]

:clap: Dunn at First. Just flip Griffey and Freel's positions and move Dunn to 4th and you got the best Reds Lineup out there.!

[kyle1976]

Great lineup, I like Kearns in the 4 spot right now.

[kyred14]

Everytime we are positive about a lineup, we play like crap. So, Freel is will be terrible with the slump he is in. Griffey will give back any runs w/ his defense than his bat will provide. And you think Dunn looks bad in left, just wait till you see that oblong freak at first. He also strikes out too much. Phils win 32-1.

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[RedsMan3203]

I'm bored - can this game please hurry up and start?

[KronoRed]

Everytime we are positive about a lineup, we play like crap. So, Freel is will be terrible with the slump he is in. Griffey will give back any runs w/ his defense than his bat will provide. And you think Dunn looks bad in left, just wait till you see that oblong freak at first. He also strikes out too much. Phils win 32-1.

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not happy about the Dunn spot..I think that could carry us to a win :D

[reds44]

Wow this fan on the Reds game knows nothing. Wagner can't get people out in AAA.

[RedsMan3203]

Wow this fan on the Reds game knows nothing. Wagner can't get people out in AAA.


Not everyone follows the whole farm system like some of us around redszone do.... Give the guy a break. ;)

Coffey for Closer!

[OnBaseMachine]

Adam Dunn and Bobby Abreu are the only two players in major league baseball to have 100 walks, 100 runs, and 100 RBI in each of the last two seasons.

[RedsMan3203]

Anyone else just get chills seeing that again?`

[indyred]

Adam Dunn and Bobby Abreu are the only two players in major league baseball to have 100 walks, 100 runs, and 100 RBI in each of the last two seasons.
great info OBM.....didn't know that

[indyred]

hope they get atleast 25 k there tonight

[KronoRed]

hope they get atleast 25 k there tonight
With this weather? doubt it

[indyred]

George has used the same fingers crossed intro a few games in row now........

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins pops out to 3rd. 1 out.

[RedsMan3203]

And here we gooooo....

1stj pitch poped up to 3rd.

1 pitch, 1 out.

Awesome.

[edabbs44]

Stands are M-T.

[Gizmo]

1 pitch 1 out, gotta like that!

[indyred]

nice shot of felo there.camera guy needs work

[Gizmo]

K!

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Gizmo]

A-brew goes full and walks

[Reds Fanatic]

Abreu walks.

[REDSEER]

Abreu walks....

[REDSEER]

Burell pops up 3 down

[Gizmo]

Burrell pops out to Ears

[Reds Fanatic]

Burrell flies out to right. 0-0 mid 1st.

[Gizmo]

Would be nice to see Freel warm up now.

[reds44]

Easy inning for E-Z

[Gizmo]

Rook not taking his time, that's for sure.

[Boston Red]

36Ks/1BB?!??!

Wow!

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Gizmo]

grounder Freel doesn't beat out.

[reds44]

Freels slump continues

[Gizmo]

we gotta get to this kid early, not let him build confidence

[indyred]

So Hamels was in a bar fight

[Gallen5862]

How many Redszoners attended the game tonight?

[Gizmo]

FeLo battling into a confidence building K

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Larry Schuler]

So Hamels was in a bar fight

So what? You wanna make something of it, tough guy? Maybe you want to take this outside?

[Falls City Beer]

Good AB from the right side for FeLo. 8 pitches.

[Gizmo]

Griffey Hr. looks at a K

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior strikes out looking. 0-0 after 1.

[Gallen5862]

Thats a good ab builds up the pitch count.

[indyred]

wow.....Hamels looked good there..not as overpowering as I thought

[Gizmo]

Here we go again against young pitching. Someone throw a proven ace our way, please, so we can score some runs

[Boston Red]

Is it too early to have this kid's name engraved on the Rookie of the Year trophy?

[KronoRed]

I hope he throws some meat to Dunn

[indyred]

SO he got shut down because of a bad back...was it from the bar fight........didn't a Yankee prize prospect do something dumb like that and never even made it to the show.........

[edabbs44]

36Ks/1BB?!??!

Wow!

Big deal, our 1st rounder that year has been in extended spring training since he was drafted. I think that's more impressive.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

[THNDRacket]

So much for Dunn not being able to field at first. He even looked good on that dropped 3rd strike by Valentin.

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino singles to center.

[Gizmo]

Victory No. singles up the middle

[flyer85]

wow.....Hamels looked good there..not as overpowering as I thoughtSupposedly he has good command and a bugs bunny changeup

[Boston Red]

Looks like the Phils have a lot of young talent. I did not know.

[KronoRed]

Supposedly he has good command and a bugs bunny changeup
http://www.jenn98.com/bugs/images/Baseball_Bugs.jpg

[KronoRed]

We could use some outs

[cincinnati chili]

Marty B. and Hal McCoy are going off on Bowden again. IT's quite entertaining. I'll take it to the Bowden thread.

[captainmorgan07]

hal and marty cracking me up talking about jimbo marty said he's suprised jimbo doens't have 2 broken arms from patting himself on the back

[flyer85]

Looks like the Phils have a lot of young talent. I did not know.the Philly youngsters are older than the Red youngsters(Rollins is 27, Utley is 27 and Howard 26)

[Gizmo]

D Bell swings a single on 1-2 count.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bell singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[Falls City Beer]

The Reds need an out pitch.

[PickOff]

Holy Crap!! Just saw the lineup. Narron put Dunn at first allowing Freel and Phillips to play. I am thoroughly impressed. I'm sure there are many posts about this before mine but I couldn't contain my excitement. I give Narron props, once again he does what makes sense. I had my doubts about Narron, but he continues to prove me wrong. :thumbup:

[Gizmo]

Ruiz grouds into DP 5-4-3

[DoogMinAmo]

The Reds need an out pitch.

I guarantee you before it is all said and done, there will be at least 27 this game alone.

[REDSEER]

Nice turn by Phillips for the DP..........3 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz grounds into a 5-4-3 DP. Good turn by Phillips. 0-0 mid 2nd.

[flyer85]

nice dp

[captainmorgan07]

double play ends the inning 5-4-3

[reds44]

5-4-3

[reds44]

the Philly youngsters are older than the Red youngsters(Rollins is 27, Utley is 27 and Howard 26)
EE-23
Dunn-26
Kearns-25
Felipe-26
Elizardo-23

[Gallen5862]

WTG Phillips. We needed that dp.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns flies out to left. 1 out.

[indyred]

Dunn figure looks sweet...can't wait to grab one tomorrow......i hope it's not really cheap plastic

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn walks on 4 pitches.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn steals 2nd.

[indyred]

Dunn stealing....nice

[Matt700wlw]

Scrappy Dunn!

[THNDRacket]

How about that! Dunn steals 2nd!

[edabbs44]

I would love Dunn to do that a little more.

[THNDRacket]

Next thing you know Griffey will be stealing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion grounds out to short. Dunn goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

[THNDRacket]

Dicey proposition there.

[RedsMan3203]

Dunn and Howard have to be the 2 biggest 1st basemen combo's in the game....

[indyred]

crowd looks decent

[gilpdawg]

"A 16 wheeler"? George George George. It's 18 buddy.

[KronoRed]

Dunn strikes fear into 2nd baseman

[RedsMan3203]

Pittsburgh gives up 6 hits and 5 runs to FLA in the 1st inning.

Wow.

[THNDRacket]

Javy gets a chance to bat righthanded.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips walks. 1st and 3rd.

[gilpdawg]

Well, they've barely hit the ball off Hamels, but they are making him throw a lot of pitches. He's looking a little wild.

[indyred]

does hit pitch around .and get to the lizard

[THNDRacket]

I sure didn't expect the Pirates pitching to be this bad.

[KronoRed]

Javy gets a chance to bat righthanded.
He shouldn't.

[indyred]

1-2 on javy

[THNDRacket]

Elizardo with a chance at a Slam?

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin walks. He has walked the bases loaded.

[RedsMan3203]

Don't know why they didn't walk Javy to start with.....

[captainmorgan07]

Pittsburgh gives up 6 hits and 5 runs to FLA in the 1st inning.

Wow.
that game is unfortunately on tv in my area so im listening to marty but glancing over and the marlins offense isn't that bad but the buco's are horrible

[Joseph]

Couldn't he at least swing a little?

[RedsMan3203]

EZ looks like a 12 year old in the box facing Randy Johnson back when he was an M.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez strikes out. 0-0 after 2.

[KronoRed]

Somebody didn't get their scouting report on Javy, he's bad right handed, just throw strikes at him.

[gilpdawg]

He shouldn't.
You know, I see this a lot, and it drives me crazy. Why do guys who try to switch-hit, and can't hit their weight from one side or another, like Javy hitting right-handed for instance, just pick the side they CAN hit from and hit that way? Does having the platoon advantage outweigh the fact that the dude SUCKS as a righty? Just go up there lefty dude. All the time. You can't hit righthanded.

[THNDRacket]

40 pitches for Hamels now

[NNredsfan]

How can I listen to this game online?

[saboforthird]

I hate pitchers that are too lazy to swing with the bases juiced. Pathetic. :rolleyes:

[RedsMan3203]

Anyone seen our favorite Red Roof Inn Commercial yet?

[gilpdawg]

40 pitches for Hamels now
Only 22 strikes. Nasty stuff though.

[REDSEER]

You know, I see this a lot, and it drives me crazy. Why do guys who try to switch-hit, and can't hit their weight from one side or another, like Javy hitting right-handed for instance, just pick the side they CAN hit from and hit that way? Does having the platoon advantage outweigh the fact that the dude SUCKS as a righty? Just go up there lefty dude. All the time. You can't hit righthanded.
Believe me, as a high school baseball player who hits left handed, it's not that easy to hit a lefty's curve as a hitter. If I could hit just a bit right handed, I would do it. Some people are just that bad at hitting same-handed pitchers.

[gilpdawg]

Anyone seen our favorite Red Roof Inn Commercial yet?
Oh, I'm waiting with baited breath.:D

[saboforthird]

You know, I see this a lot, and it drives me crazy. Why do guys who try to switch-hit, and can't hit their weight from one side or another, like Javy hitting right-handed for instance, just pick the side they CAN hit from and hit that way? Does having the platoon advantage outweigh the fact that the dude SUCKS as a righty? Just go up there lefty dude. All the time. You can't hit righthanded.

It's a psychological factor. I mean, imagine facing a team of lizards and tatoo artists. :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamels strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[gilpdawg]

Believe me, as a high school baseball player who hits left handed, it's not that easy to hit a lefty's curve as a hitter. If I could hit just a bit right handed, I would do it. Some people are just that bad at hitting same-handed pitchers.
Oh, I get that, but if you can't do it successfully, why not just play to your strengths?

[DoogMinAmo]

How can I listen to this game online?

Fork over 15 bucks, and you get it for the whole season, well worth it IMHO.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Boston Red]

George now has a man-crush on Hamels. San Diego cool.

[REDSEER]

Oh, I get that, but if you can't do it successfully, why not just play to your strengths?
True, but I bet he would hit for a better average if he hit right handed vs. lefties than if he would hit lefty against lefty......

but who knows, why not give it a try.......

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley flies out to center. 0-0 mid 3rd.

[reds44]

Zip-Zip-Zip

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez through 3 on only 37 pitches.

[NNredsfan]

Thank you, Doog.

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[edabbs44]

Freel to the bottom of the order until further notice.

[gilpdawg]

True, but I bet he would hit for a better average if he hit right handed vs. lefties than if he would hit lefty against lefty......

but who knows, why not give it a try.......
Last 3 seasons combined for Valentin vs. Lefties, whom I'm mainly referring to in this discussion:
.155/.255/.216 not good at all.

[indyred]

looks like repeat almost of last night...quick game so far..

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez flies out to right. 2 outs.

[edabbs44]

Nice working of the count this inning.

[westofyou]

Is the game in Portland?

Sure looks like it.

[captainmorgan07]

freel scuffling badly he needs some help or something

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior walks on 4 pitches. 4 walks by Hamels.

[bengalred]

c'mon Kearns...

[THNDRacket]

Somebody's control has gone south.

[Matt700wlw]

Is the game in Portland?

Sure looks like it.

Does it rain like this all the time in Portland? It's depressing, I hope it doesn't for your sake.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns pops out to short. 0-0 after 3. 51 pitches through 3 for Hamels.

[flyer85]

Junior walks on 4 pitches. 4 walks by Hamels.but hasn't given up anything resembling a hit.

[captainmorgan07]

all these walks and we can't get a basehit yet

[KronoRed]

No hitters with a lot of walks have happened before.

[Reds Fanatic]

but hasn't given up anything resembling a hit.
Also doesn't help when he is struggling with control and our leadoff hitter swings at the 1st pitch and Lopez swings at the 2nd pitch.

[gilpdawg]

all these walks and we can't get a basehit yet
That's because Hamels is actually Jim Coombs in disguise.:)

[Gizmo]

all these walks and we can't get a basehit yet

we're not contacting much thrown over the plate.

[reds44]

Man we don't help out the Lizard much do we?

[edabbs44]

This Cynthia Richardson chick on the McClusky Chevy commerical should be ashamed of herself. Take the nose ring out...you're on TV!

[flyer85]

I really can't see the Lizard losing his spot when Milton comes back

[Reds Fanatic]

I really can't see the Lizard losing his spot when Milton comes back
I think Williams is gone when Milton is back. Milton could be back as early as next weekend.

[reds44]

I really can't see the Lizard losing his spot when Milton comes back
Yeah he is our 3rd best starter right now.

Just curious I know we are along way off (he has 1 win), but is he eligible for ROY?

[Reds Fanatic]

Abreu grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[Gizmo]

A-brew is downed.

[REDSEER]

AFLAC trivia answer: Bonds, Manny Ramirez,???????

3 players w/ 800 BB's since 1999

[SirFelixCat]

Great pbp tonight y'all. Please, keep it up all season.

Thanks! ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Burrell singles to left.

[KronoRed]

This Cynthia Richardson chick on the McClusky Chevy commerical should be ashamed of herself. Take the nose ring out...you're on TV!
They are appealing to the nose ring demographic ;)

[flyer85]

AFLAC trivia answer: Bonds, Manny Ramirez,???????

3 players w/ 800 BB's since 1999Abreu

[edabbs44]

Adios...Howard bombs one to center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard homers to center. 2-0 Phillies.

[captainmorgan07]

howard homers to center 2-0 phils

[Matt700wlw]

Ouch...

[saboforthird]

Wee, there it goes. Lizard, meet Howard. :p:

[KronoRed]

Phills teeing off now

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino lines a double to right.

[Gizmo]

2 run HR followed by 2 base hit. And hopefully we can find a way to the rook.

[Boston Red]

Perhaps Ramirez's spot in the rotation isn't as solid as some think.

[KronoRed]

Stop hugging EE!!! ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Bell grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs. Runner goes to 3rd.

[Gizmo]

ground out to BP moves runner to 3rd with 2 down

[reds44]

What the.........

'He gets the job done'

There are 2 outs George

[flyer85]

Howard HR was amazing. I don't believe I've ever seen an opposite filed HR where the hitter pulled his hands in. That was unreal

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz lines out to 3rd. 2-0 Phillies mid 4th.

[Hap]

George Grande just did it again. :bang: :bang: :bang:

He said a batter (David Bell) "got the job done" as he moved a runner to third as he became the second out.

[Gizmo]

EE in a good spot for the liner. 3 down, 2-0 mid 4th.

[saboforthird]

Someone needs to adjust the tee for the Reds. :D

[flyer85]

Perhaps Ramirez's spot in the rotation isn't as solid as some think.His stuff is just superior to Claussen, Williams and Milton with a bad knee.

Is he great? No, but he will likely be better than those guys.

[saboforthird]

George Grande just did it again. :bang: :bang: :bang:

He said a batter (David Bell) "got the job done" as he moved a runner to third as he became the second out.

Help me out here. Has it that not getting the job done? The only ones I see not getting the job done are my beloved Reds. :p:

[reds44]

Help me out here. Has it that not getting the job done? The only ones I see not getting the job done are my beloved Reds. :p:
Was that a serious question?

[bengalred]

His stuff is just superior to Claussen, Williams and Milton with a bad knee.

Is he great? No, but he will likely be better than those guys.
Williams, yes, but I don't think that he has better stuff than Claussen. Claussen gets no run support every time he pitches. In time, maybe, but not right now.

[KronoRed]

He moved the runner over, that's getting the job done if his job was moving the runner..what's the big deal?

[Gizmo]

Dunn blasts one to the 2nd deck.... behind the Reds dugout. Up next: correct timing and missing completely.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn flies out to left. 1 out.

[Gizmo]

Nope, opposite field flyout.

[Patrick Bateman]

Help me out here. Has it that not getting the job done?

When there's a runner on second, 1 out, the batters job is to get on base.

Making an out, even if you advance the runner, does little to help your team.

[reds44]

He moved the runner over, that's getting the job done if his job was moving the runner..what's the big deal?
You want to get the runner to 3rd with 1 out, that made 2.

[westofyou]

Does it rain like this all the time in Portland? It's depressing, I hope it doesn't for your sake.
Just from November to May.. or June.. or October to July... yeah that's my story I'm sticking to it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion walks. 5 walks by Hamels.

[Gizmo]

EvErEEbody's favoritE EE earns the soup du jour from Hamels and trots to first.

[reds44]

EE walks

[gilpdawg]

He moved the runner over, that's getting the job done if his job was moving the runner..what's the big deal?
Yeah but that's not his job in that situation. If you're gonna make an out, sure, it helps to move the guy up, but it's not like he was sacrificing. George was grasping for straws. 2 outs on third isn't much different than 2 outs on second.

[KronoRed]

Eh, still getting the runner closer..any single would have scored him from 3rd.

[flyer85]

Williams, yes, but I don't think that he has better stuff than Claussen. Claussen gets no run support every time he pitches. In time, maybe, but not right now.Claussen has an 86-88 mph fastball and a change and breaking ball that he can't consistently throw for strikes. His stuff just isn't that good, has nothing to do with run support(or lack of it).

[gilpdawg]

BP having a good at bat here.

[Gizmo]

BP gets gassed on the call. K.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips can't check his swing and strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[KronoRed]

Was a swing..at a pitch in the dirt.

[gilpdawg]

BP having a good at bat here.
Until now.

[REDSEER]

We need something here from Javy to get us going

[KronoRed]

Val K's.

[REDSEER]

nevermind

[Gizmo]

It's no Valentin's day, as Javy strikes out swinging. Still no hits through 4.

[reds44]

We don't have a hit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin strikes out swinging. 5 K's for Hamels. Reds still have not had anything close to a hit. 2-0 Phils after 4.

[Boston Red]

Anyone ever thrown a no-no in their MLB debut?

[CTA513]

Its always nice to help out someone having a hard time throwing strikes. :/

[flyer85]

The last 2 Ks are exactly what Narron talked about pregame. A lot of guys K chasing bad pitches.

[saboforthird]

Dear Big League Managers,

Schedule your pitcher debuts against the Reds.

Regards,

Bud Squealig.

[reds44]

Anyone ever thrown a no-no in their MLB debut?
He won't go 7, much less 9.

[THNDRacket]

Anyone ever thrown a no-no in their MLB debut?

On May 6, 1953, Bobo Holloman became the first pitcher during the twentieth century to throw a no hitter during his first Major League start.

[Gizmo]

Hamels pads the Lizards stats with a K

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamels strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[bengalred]

Claussen has an 86-88 mph fastball and a change and breaking ball that he can't consistently throw for strikes. His stuff just isn't that good, has nothing to do with run support(or lack of it).
If you're going strictly by a fastball, than yes Ramirez has better stuff. But all in all, Claussen has a better arsenal of pitches. His off-speed stuff is MUCH better than anything Ramirez has. I like Ramirez though, I hope he turns out great.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins pops out to short. 2 outs.

[REDSEER]

two quick ones for EZ

[westofyou]

Anyone ever thrown a no-no in their MLB debut?
Bumpus Jones did, in the last game of the 1892 season, for the Reds... last game before the mound was moved too.

And Bobo Holman for the Browns in the 50's

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley walks.

[REDSEER]

EZ walks Utley

[Gizmo]

from 1-2 into 4-2 walk.

[flyer85]

If you're going strictly by a fastball, than yes Ramirez has better stuff. But all in all, Claussen has a better arsenal of pitches. His off-speed stuff is MUCH better than anything Ramirez has. I like Ramirez though, I hope he turns out great.Ramirez locates his off speed stuff much better than Claussen. Claussen just can't consistently command his off speed stuff and he gets killed on the days team can just sit on the fastball.

[saboforthird]

What on Earth was Grande (?) saying about the Reds in their involvement with Mario Soto? I thought Soto left the organization? Grande was saying "great move by the Reds". Did I miss him saying the Reds had promoted Soto? :confused:

[REDSEER]

LOL Grande just about said let's see if they will send Utley, then stopped

[Gizmo]

A-brew strikes out looking after a long AB. still 2-0 into the home 5th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Abreu strikes out looking. 4 K's for Ramirez. 2-0 Phillies mid 5th.

[reds44]

Come on guys help the kid out.

Get some runs.

[saboforthird]

I'm happy that Ramirez was able to walk away unscathed after that "phantom strikeout" he had. Things weren't looking good after that. :D

[THNDRacket]

Bumpus Jones did, in the last game of the 1892 season, for the Reds... last game before the mound was moved too.

And Bobo Holman for the Browns in the 50's

Yes, I had the wrong Bobo.

[REDSEER]

we really need to rattle this kid, he's getting way too comfortable out there right now.....how about a hit by the pitcher to rattle him???? ;)

[Gizmo]

we really need to rattle this kid, he's getting way too comfortable out there right now.....how about a hit by the pitcher to rattle him???? ;)

close.

[REDSEER]

EZ looks like he is scared of the ball..........

actually he looks more like Harang last year, stepping out on every pitch

[Gizmo]

EZ swings at one headed to the Diamond seats for the 3rd strike.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez strikes out on a high fastball. 1 out.

[flyer85]

EZ needed a ladder