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Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 01:15 PM
Starting Lineups:


Cubs (25 - 36)
5th in NL Central
Reds (36 - 26)
2nd in NL Central

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. J Pierre, CF .234 0 5 20
2. T Walker, 2B .299 3 29 0
3. M Barrett, C .298 8 29 0
4. P Nevin, 1B .250 1 2 0
5. M Murton, LF .275 4 20 2
6. J Jones, RF .298 11 32 1
7. R Cedeno, SS .296 1 16 5
8. N Perez, 3B .193 0 11 0
9. C Marmol, P - 0 0 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Freel, 3B .281 4 13 13
2. F Lopez, SS .289 6 24 18
3. K Griffey Jr., CF .295 11 35 0
4. A Dunn, LF .229 19 36 1
5. A Kearns, RF .279 12 38 2
6. S Hatteberg, 1B .289 4 15 0
7. B Phillips, 2B .305 6 37 12
8. D Ross, C .333 6 18 0
9. E Milton, P .188 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
C Marmol 0 0 0.00 0.75 6

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
E Milton 4 2 4.14 1.14 28

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 01:21 PM
Aurilia being punished for his god-awful at bats yesterday? ;)

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 01:24 PM
Very nice lineup today.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 01:27 PM
Very nice lineup today.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe Narron has turned the corner?

CrackerJack
06-11-2006, 01:28 PM
Yes I really like the lineup and think it should be the norm.

oneupper
06-11-2006, 01:31 PM
Yes I really like the lineup and think it should be the norm.

Until EdE comes back...then I would like him in there.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 01:32 PM
I hope we don't have to hear about how all the Cubs' fans hurt their feelings if they lose today.

I'd take the presence of all those Cubs' fans as a reason to humiliate their team on the field. Nothing like sending home a bunch of grouchy Cubs' fans.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 01:33 PM
I hope we don't have to hear about how all the Cubs' fans hurt their feelings if they lose today.

I'd take the presence of all those Cubs' fans as a reason to humiliate their team on the field. Nothing like sending home a bunch of grouchy Cubs' fans.

I think you mean Cubs "fans" ;)

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 01:45 PM
I think you mean Cubs "fans" ;)
Amen, brother. 95% of these morons probably think Sammy Sosa still plays for the Cubs.

reds44
06-11-2006, 01:48 PM
Yes I really like the lineup and think it should be the norm.
Yep for the next 10-12 games until EE gets back, this is the lineup I would like to see the most.

When EE comes back, then he goes right in it at 3B.

RBA
06-11-2006, 01:49 PM
For the Out of Reds Television Market fans the game will be on WGN today.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 01:50 PM
When I was Wrigley, I was surrounded by Cubs fans. These were actually cool people. Didn't give our group any crap for being Reds fans, didn't act like idiots when we were standing and clapping waiting for the final out of a Reds victory (a little fun heckling, but nothing more than that..fun!). I enjoyed them, and they treated us all with respect in and around the ballpark, and in the bars even though we had Reds garb on.

Now, these birdbrains that invade GABP....well....

Joseph
06-11-2006, 01:53 PM
No LaRue today? A day game after a night game usually sees a different catcher. I bet JN got an earful from the Texan. You can't break a slump from the bench after all.

toledodan
06-11-2006, 01:55 PM
When I was Wrigley, I was surrounded by Cubs fans. These were actually cool people. Didn't give our group any crap for being Reds fans, didn't act like idiots when we were standing and clapping waiting for the final out of a Reds victory (a little fun heckling, but nothing more than that..fun!). I enjoyed them, and they treated us all with respect in and around the ballpark, and in the bars even though we had Reds garb on.

Now, these birdbrains that invade GABP....well....



matt, you were most likely drunk and just dont remember.:D i've been to wrigley 4 times and 3 of the times was treated just awful. of course those were the 3 times when the cubs won. go figure!

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:00 PM
No LaRue today? A day game after a night game usually sees a different catcher. I bet JN got an earful from the Texan. You can't break a slump from the bench after all.
When was the last time LaRue played?

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 02:00 PM
I have no problem at all with them at Wrigley Field....that's what you're supposed to do in your home city/park...cheer for your team.

But I literally hate these morons who go into all the other parks and act like they're fans.

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 02:01 PM
When was the last time LaRue played?
I think he caught Harang Wednesday in St. Louis.

TeamBoone
06-11-2006, 02:02 PM
I don't think LaRue is ever going to catch again. I don't like it.

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:03 PM
I have no problem at all with them at Wrigley Field....that's what you're supposed to do in your home city/park...cheer for your team.

But I literally hate these morons who go into all the other parks and act like they're fans.
Wait, wait, wait


As a Chicago Reds fans the only way I can see the Reds more then once a year is by going to Reds games at Wrigley and Miller Park. Sometimes there are no other options.

I am also going to 2 games @ Houston later this year when I am on vacation.

Joseph
06-11-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't think LaRue is ever going to catch again. I don't like it.

Harang was the last time I've even seen him so much as sitting on the bench.

I don't like it either. Sure ride Ross while he's hot, but putting all the eggs in one basket is going to leave us hurting when Ross finally trips and crushes them all.

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:06 PM
Harang was the last time I've even seen him so much as sitting on the bench.

I don't like it either. Sure ride Ross while he's hot, but putting all the eggs in one basket is going to leave us hurting when Ross finally trips and crushes them all.
When Ross comes back to hurt then you play LaRue. This was the plan with Phillips (when he came back to hurt play Freel), but the good thing is BP never came back to earth.

Maybe Ross will do the same.

PickOff
06-11-2006, 02:10 PM
I have no problem at all with them at Wrigley Field....that's what you're supposed to do in your home city/park...cheer for your team.

But I literally hate these morons who go into all the other parks and act like they're fans.


Well I guess I have to live near Cincinnati to be a fan, and I can only go to games in Cincinnati?

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:11 PM
Well I guess I have to live near Cincinnati to be a fan, and I can only go to games in Cincinnati?
I guess I should go be a White Sox fan.

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 02:15 PM
You're missing my point, guys. If you listen to the Cubs "fans" in Great American Ball Park as I have many, many times...you know they have no clue about anything regarding the team.

On Opening Day, there was a Cubs "fan" behind me who literally got into an arguement with a Reds fan because the Cubs "fan" was hellbent on the fact that Sammy Sosa was still a Cub, he just didn't play much. The Reds fan told him that he was traded to Baltimore and the Cubs "fan" told him in no uncertain terms that he had no clue what he was talking about.

I don't have a problem at all if a fan of another team comes and watches thier team play in Great American Ball Park. I do, however, have problems with Cubs "fans" who have no clue about anything regarding baseball filling ours and others parks.

Don't believe me....go sit in the stands for a Reds/Cubs game and come back and try to say that they are true fans.

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 02:16 PM
there should be no reason why we cannot defeat this cub lineup today...even with milty on the mound:devil:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:16 PM
Pierre attempts a bunt and pops out to 1st. 1 out.

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:17 PM
Ears!!!!

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:17 PM
Walker lines out to right. Great catch by Kearns.

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Red uni's looking awesome as awlays.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Red uni's looking awesome as awlays.

They should wear those all the time at home.

They are THE REDS after all...

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
On Opening Day, there was a Cubs "fan" behind me who literally got into an arguement with a Reds fan because the Cubs "fan" was hellbent on the fact that Sammy Sosa was still a Cub, he just didn't play much. The Reds fan told him that he was traded to Baltimore and the Cubs "fan" told him in no uncertain terms that he had no clue what he was talking about.

cub and/or red fans getting into an arguement at a ballgame is just plain silly...both parties are dumb if you ask me...why can't people just watch the game and ignore others who are obviously trying to get attention?

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
They should wear those all the time at home.

They are THE REDS after all...
I agree 100% Matt.



He Gone!
Barrett looked overmatched in that AB.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Barrett strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

redsfan30
06-11-2006, 02:20 PM
Great way to start out for Milton!

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:24 PM
Bottom 1st Cubs 0 Reds 0

Freel strikes out swinging. 1 out.

reds44
06-11-2006, 02:24 PM
Good AB even though he struck out.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:25 PM
Lopez grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Junior grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 1.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:30 PM
Top 2nd Cubs 0 Reds 0

Nevin grounds out to 3rd. Nice play by Freel.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:31 PM
Murton flies out to center. 2 outs.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 02:32 PM
I might be starting to buy into Milton.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:32 PM
Jones strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 2nd.

PickOff
06-11-2006, 02:33 PM
You're missing my point, guys. If you listen to the Cubs "fans" in Great American Ball Park as I have many, many times...you know they have no clue about anything regarding the team.

On Opening Day, there was a Cubs "fan" behind me who literally got into an arguement with a Reds fan because the Cubs "fan" was hellbent on the fact that Sammy Sosa was still a Cub, he just didn't play much. The Reds fan told him that he was traded to Baltimore and the Cubs "fan" told him in no uncertain terms that he had no clue what he was talking about.

I don't have a problem at all if a fan of another team comes and watches thier team play in Great American Ball Park. I do, however, have problems with Cubs "fans" who have no clue about anything regarding baseball filling ours and others parks.

Don't believe me....go sit in the stands for a Reds/Cubs game and come back and try to say that they are true fans.

Thank you for clearly stating what you meant. While I do agree that the Cubs seem to attract more of the type of fan that you describe above, they also have alot of knowledgeable fans as well. I don't think you can make a blanket statement about all Cubs fans.

Futhermore, I understand the frustration that these fans can bring if you invest yourself in them, but I couldn't care less because I don't.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:33 PM
Milty!

PickOff
06-11-2006, 02:33 PM
I might be starting to buy into Milton.

He looks good, doesn't he? We'll just have to see if his legs hold up.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:34 PM
Thank you for clearly stating what you meant. While I do agree that the Cubs seem to attract more of the type of fan that you describe above, they also have alot of knowledgeable fans as well. I don't think you can make a blanket statement about all Cubs fans.



That's why I have 2 categories....Cubs fans, and Cubs "fans." :)

membengal
06-11-2006, 02:34 PM
I might be starting to buy into Milton.

Um, yeah. Really, it is happening consistently enough now with just enough giddyup on his fastball to go with that curve ball and change up that I am intrigued. Very intrigued.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:36 PM
Bottom 2nd Cubs 0 Reds 0

Dunn breaks his bat and grounds out to the shortstop playing the shift. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:36 PM
I think the addition of Bronson Arroyo has really helped this staff as a whole. These guys seem to mixing up their pitches more using more off speed stuff to keep the hitters off balance.

The intangibles are showing.

cReds1
06-11-2006, 02:36 PM
Did you see that kid's hair that is a Cubs fan. LOL Classic! I am watching WGN.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:37 PM
Kearns doubles off the top of the wall in left center.

membengal
06-11-2006, 02:37 PM
Boy, the park had to work hard to hold that shot from Kearns...

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:38 PM
Very colorful game today.

Reds vs Blues.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:38 PM
Hatteberg grounds out to 2nd. Kearns goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

PickOff
06-11-2006, 02:39 PM
This is Phillips' kind of pitcher. I'm looking for a big day from Brandon.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:39 PM
Phillips grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 2.

cReds1
06-11-2006, 02:39 PM
what kind of swing was that? FORE!

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:39 PM
Need to score there.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 02:40 PM
Um, yeah. Really, it is happening consistently enough now with just enough giddyup on his fastball to go with that curve ball and change up that I am intrigued. Very intrigued.
Very true. I haven't seen this kind of zip on his fastball since he arrived.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:43 PM
Top 3rd Cubs 0 Reds 0

Cedeno flies out to right. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Perez flies out to left. 2 outs.

membengal
06-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Why did GG just say that ball was "blooped to left" when Dunn caught it on the warning track?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:46 PM
Marmol strikes out swinging. 3 K's for Milton. 0-0 mid 3rd.

membengal
06-11-2006, 02:47 PM
Fear the goatee! Fear it!

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 02:48 PM
Fear the goatee! Fear it!

Eric Milton is not allowed to shave.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:50 PM
Bottom 3rd Cubs 0 Reds 0

Ross leads off with a walk.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 02:52 PM
This might have been mentioned earlier, but I guess Ross is becoming our everyday catcher. He's earned it.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:52 PM
Milton sacrifices the runner to 2nd. 1 out.

Gallen5862
06-11-2006, 02:52 PM
Ross just seems to know how to get on base. He goes to second on Milton's bunt.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:54 PM
Freel flies out to right. 2 outs.

RBA
06-11-2006, 02:54 PM
I'm expecting a double by Lopez here.

Wheelhouse
06-11-2006, 02:56 PM
If George Grande uses the canned "Get em on, get em over, get em in" one more time I'm going to cough up my liver.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 02:57 PM
Lopez strikes out swinging. 0-0 after 3.

RBA
06-11-2006, 02:58 PM
The Reds are missing the Professional AT-BATS of Rich Aurilia.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Milton just owned Pierre.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Top 4th Cubs 0 Reds 0

Pierre strikes out swinging. 4 K's for Milton. 1out.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:01 PM
Walker flies out to right. 2 outs.

Kc61
06-11-2006, 03:01 PM
The Reds are missing the Professional AT-BATS of Rich Aurilia.

Hope Reds are not in another team slump offensively. Isn't there a rule against two team slumps in three weeks?

BoydsOfSummer
06-11-2006, 03:02 PM
Who is this Milton dude,and where/when did we get him?

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:02 PM
Just so everybody knows.....Milton is doing something here that I'm not going to mention because it's bad luck.......so don't mention it:thumbup:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:02 PM
Barrett lines out to short. 0-0 mid 4th. Milton through 4 on only 43 pitches.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:03 PM
Something I just learned from WGN broadcast. Eric Milton has tatoos for every MLB and College team he's played for. I don't usually like tatoos, but that's pretty neat.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:03 PM
Hope Reds are not in another team slump offensively. Isn't there a rule against two team slumps in three weeks?

I'm of a mind that this kind of erratic offensive performance is on tap for the rest of the season. Unless they change the overall structure of the offense.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:04 PM
The Cubs seem to have alot of guys in the minors that can bring it around 94-95 mph.

:eek:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:06 PM
Bottom 4th Cubs 0 Reds 0

Junior strikes out swinging. 1 out.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:06 PM
Number 3 strikes out.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:06 PM
Something I just learned from WGN broadcast. Eric Milton has tatoos for every MLB and College team he's played for. I don't usually like tatoos, but that's pretty neat.

Thank God Reggie Sanders does not do the same....he would die of ink posioning:laugh:

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:06 PM
What's a Marmol and where can I get one?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:07 PM
Dunn walks.

BoydsOfSummer
06-11-2006, 03:08 PM
I think it's one of those furry little woodchuck lookin' critters.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:08 PM
Number 44 walks. Number 28 is up and he isn't Buddy Bell.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:09 PM
No. 28 strikes out.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:09 PM
Kearns strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:09 PM
somehow i'm not surprised that a young pitcher is doing well against us:bang:

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:09 PM
This kid can pitch, command of all of his pitches.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:10 PM
No 21 grounds out to First Base.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:10 PM
Hatteberg grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 after 4.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:11 PM
somehow i'm not surprised that a young pitcher is doing well against us:bang:

He actually looks pretty good...he's not one of those soft tossers that leaves me scratching my head as to why the Reds can't hit him.

BoydsOfSummer
06-11-2006, 03:11 PM
Carlos Marmol: Individual Stats (Pitching)
Team From To W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO
West Tenn Diamond Jaxx 04/06 06/02 3 2 2.33 11 11 0 0 0 58.0 42 18 15 1 25 67

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:13 PM
[code]Carlos Marmol: Individual Stats (Pitching)
Team From To W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO
West Tenn Diamond Jaxx 04/06 06/02 3 2 2.33 11 11 0 0 0 58.0 42 18 15 1 25 67
[/code

You need another "]" at the end of it....it's hard to read.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:13 PM
Top 5th Cubs 0 Reds 0

Nevin grounds out to short. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:14 PM
Murton singles to left.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:14 PM
The no-no/perfect game is no more.

Bench him! :D

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Just so everybody knows.....Milton is doing something here that I'm not going to mention because it's bad luck.......so don't mention it:thumbup:

What was I thinking? I can uncross my legs now:laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Jones singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Anohter hit. I have confidence no cubbies will score this inning.

RBA
06-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Damn ****!!

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Anohter hit. I have confidence no cubbies will score this inning.
:bang:

BoydsOfSummer
06-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Pitching Statistics
Year Team Name Lg Age Org. Level W L ERA G GS CG SH GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP
2003 Arizona Cubs Ariz 20 Chc Rk 3 5 4.76 15 9 0 0 1 0 64.1 59 43 34 5 37 74 6 8.25 0.70 5.18 10.35 1.49
2004 Lansing Midw 21 Chc A 14 8 3.20 26 24 0 0 1 0 154.2 131 64 55 15 53 154 5 7.62 0.87 3.08 8.96 1.19
2005 Daytona FSL 22 Chc A+ 6 2 2.99 13 13 0 0 0 72.1 60 30 24 7 37 71 5 1 7.47 0.87 4.60 8.83 1.34
West Tennessee Sou 22 Chc AA 3 4 3.65 14 14 0 0 0 81.1 70 33 33 10 40 70 1 1 7.75 1.11 4.43 7.75 1.35
Minor League Totals - 3 Season(s) 26 19 3.53 68 60 0 0 0 372.2 320 170 146 37 167 369 17 7.74 0.89 4.04 8.92 1.31

Spring Training Pitching Statistics
Year Team Name Lg Age Org. Level W L ERA G GS CG SH GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP
2006 Chicago Cubs MLB 23 Chc MLB 0 0 4.50 2 0 0 0 0 2.0 2 1 1 1 3 4 0 0 9.00 4.50 13.50 18.00 2.50
Major League Totals - 1 Season(s) 0 0 4.50 2 0 0 0 0 2.0 2 1 1 1 3 4 0 0 9.00 4.50 13.50 18.00 2.50

Batting Statistics
Year Team Name League Age Org. Level G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP IBB SH SF DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
2000 Dominican Cubs Dsl 17 Chc Rk 41 140 32 44 7 2 0 22 3 11 27 .314 *.368 .393 *761
2001 Arizona Cubs Ariz 18 Chc Rk 40 129 15 38 11 0 0 12 4 3 9 30 0 1 0 0 .295 *.345 .380 *725
2002 Arizona Cubs Ariz 19 Chc Rk 47 186 22 48 6 3 1 16 10 4 3 35 1 0 3 2 3 .258 .271 .339 610
Lansing Midw 19 Chc A 15 47 2 7 0 1 0 4 0 2 1 7 0 0 0 0 2 .149 .167 .191 358
2005 West Tennessee Sou 22 Chc AA 12 21 3 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 6 0 0 3 0 0 .143 .182 .143 325
Minor League Totals - 4 Season(s) 155 523 74 140 24 6 1 55 17 25 105 .268 *.306 .342 *648

CrackerJack
06-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Geesh. More sloppiness.

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
weak hitting cedano and weak armed dunn a "perfect" match for disaster:thumbdown

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Cedeno singles to left. The throw home gets away and the runners move to 2nd and 3rd. 1-0 Cubs.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Settle down, Milton....settle down.

It's ok.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Crap. You gotta hold the runners at 1st and 2nd there.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Its always fun to watch someone try and throw someone out at home when you have no chance. Now they have 2 more runners in scoring position.

:/

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Ross has to stop that ball, you have equipment on for God's sake

Kc61
06-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Puts a lot of pressure on your pitcher when you don't score. Reds turning this Cub rookie into Cy Young.

Supposed to be a big time offense but Reds constantly fail in these tight games.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Perez sac. fly to right. 2-0 Cubs.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:18 PM
2-0 Cubs...

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Its always fun to watch someone try and throw someone out at home when you have no chance. Now they have 2 more runners in scoring position.

:/


exactly...no way dunn had a chance at the runner...now, even the weak hitting neifi gets a sac fly...unbelieveable

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:19 PM
Ross having a good inning.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:19 PM
Kearns cannon made that closer than I thought it would be

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:19 PM
Puts a lot of pressure on your pitcher when you don't score. Reds turning this Cub rookie into Cy Young.

Supposed to be a big time offense but Reds constantly fail in these tight games.


True. Sure the Cubs have scored 2 runs now...but Milton is not pitching badly at all.

The donut on the Reds side of the scoreboard just magnifies everything.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:20 PM
Marmol flies out to center. 2-0 Cubs mid 5th.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:20 PM
Let's see if the Reds offense decides they want to play now.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:21 PM
Two runs should be plenty; Marmol's cruising.

This team plays like they've got a plane to catch.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:21 PM
It should be 1-0 right now, but instead its 2-0.

:/

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:21 PM
Let's see if the Reds offense decides they want to play now.


what offense:confused:

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:22 PM
Ross having a good inning.

Everytime I compliment someone...I jinx them. Please someone verbally slap me the next time I do it.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:22 PM
It's the fault of the Cubs' fans.

Kc61
06-11-2006, 03:23 PM
True. Sure the Cubs have scored 2 runs now...but Milton is not pitching badly at all.

The donut on the Reds side of the scoreboard just magnifies everything.

Increasingly, Reds seem like a feast or famine offense. Walks and home runs.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:23 PM
Offense needs to help Milton out a little bit.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:23 PM
Offense needs to help Milton out a little bit.

Against a rookie? thats asking for to much.


:help:

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:24 PM
If a team can only score on mediocre pitching, is that a good hitting team?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:24 PM
Bottom 5th Cubs 2 Reds 0

Phillips flies out to center. 1 out.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Ross is boss!!!

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
There's that Ross guy again!

:jump:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Ross homers to right center. 2-1 Cubs.

CrackerJack
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Ross makes up - good job. ;)

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
All Ross does is hit:thumbup:

Gainesville Red
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Go Gators!

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Thank you David Ross. He gets back the run he helped give up.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Ross homers to right center. 2-1 Cubs.

Good job, the game should be tied 1-1.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Why is he batting 8th?

Marc D
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Against a rookie? thats asking for to much.


:help:

Not just any rookie. A 23 year old converted catcher pitching at AA with reportedly only 2 pitches. Sickening.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Milton strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Why is he batting 8th?

Because catchers bat 8th.....

:dunno:

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Sounds like you need Ross's bat speed to catch up to this kid's heater. Even so, Ross didn't pull the ball. Kid's bringing the zip.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Go Gators!

What happened to the Gator baseball team this year? ouch!

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Freel strikes out looking. 6 K's for Marmol. 2-1 Cubs after 5.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:29 PM
Sounds like you need Ross's bat speed to catch up to this kid's heater. Even so, Ross didn't pull the ball. Kid's bringing the zip.
Yeah it would be nice to have EE today. He could catch up to it.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:31 PM
Because catchers bat 8th.....

:dunno:

Your right...I forgot

37red
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
I don't want a lot of crap from this post, I reall just want a few real reasons why Adam Dunn bats 4th? Is it only because he hits homers. Is it because he has a good OBA? I wonder because he really doesn't have a good BA, he's a somewhat slow runner, and can't steel. I like Dunn but why have a batter with those traits bat 4th? Just a good answer please, this is not a rip post, this is a why post.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Time to warm up the pen.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Top 6th Cubs 2 Reds 1

Pierre lines a single to center.

Kc61
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Milton looks gassed to me. Hope I'm wrong.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Walker pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Milton looks gassed to me. Hope I'm wrong.

That would be sad; he's only thrown 68 pitches.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:33 PM
I don't want a lot of crap from this post, I reall just want a few real reasons why Adam Dunn bats 4th? Is it only because he hits homers. Is it because he has a good OBA? I wonder because he really doesn't have a good BA, he's a somewhat slow runner, and can't steel. I like Dunn but why have a batter with those traits bat 4th? Just a good answer please, this is not a rip post, this is a why post.

Potential?

cReds1
06-11-2006, 03:34 PM
Just so everybody knows.....Milton is doing something here that I'm not going to mention because it's bad luck.......so don't mention it:thumbup:

too late. well, now you know why you don't do it. :)

cReds1
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
nice play

CrackerJack
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Very nice play by BP

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Bp!!!!

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
WOW! Phillips!

That boy can sure pick it!!

:clap:

Web Gem nominee :D

Marc D
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
If nothing else Milton absolutely ownes Walker this year.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
What a play by Phillips. He fields the ball on the shortstop side of 2nd. 2 outs. Runner goes to 2nd.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Brandon Phillips is the fielding truth...

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:37 PM
Is it ragging on Lopez to suggest him and BP switch positions?

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 03:37 PM
I don't want a lot of crap from this post, I reall just want a few real reasons why Adam Dunn bats 4th? Is it only because he hits homers. Is it because he has a good OBA? I wonder because he really doesn't have a good BA, he's a somewhat slow runner, and can't steel. I like Dunn but why have a batter with those traits bat 4th? Just a good answer please, this is not a rip post, this is a why post.
It has to be power, b/c power and OBP are his two plusses and OBP isn't really necessary in the 4 hole. But it might also be to protect Griffey from being pitched around.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:37 PM
I don't want a lot of crap from this post, I reall just want a few real reasons why Adam Dunn bats 4th? Is it only because he hits homers. Is it because he has a good OBA? I wonder because he really doesn't have a good BA, he's a somewhat slow runner, and can't steel. I like Dunn but why have a batter with those traits bat 4th? Just a good answer please, this is not a rip post, this is a why post.

You know the answer, you just don't like what you hear. But thanks for trying to pick another Dunn fight in a game thread.

His power is ungodly, he has a good eye, he gets on base, he makes hitters around him better. You probably don't agree with that series of statements. I do. But thanks for the query.

Edited to add: edabb...getting on base is important NO MATTER WHERE YOU HIT

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:37 PM
Nevin strikes out swinging. 5 K's by Milton. 2-1 Cubs mid 6th.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Another quality start by Milton...6 inninngs 1 earned run. That's 4 in a row right?

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:38 PM
You know the answer, you just don't like what you hear. But thanks for trying to pick another Dunn fight in a game thread.

His power is ungodly, he has a good eye, he gets on base, he makes hitters around him better. You probably don't agree with that series of statements. I do. But thanks for the query.

Don't you love passive-aggressiveness? "Don't get me wrong: I like him...but he sucks."

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Bottom 6th Cubs 2 Reds 1

Lopez leads off with a walk.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
this is our inning:thumbup:

37red
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Yeah Edabbs44, yes that makes sense. I should have known that.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
We really need to stop calling it OBA, it is OBP.

That irks me.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:42 PM
Do you bunt Junior?

That would throw them off :D

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:43 PM
Junior flies out to left. 1 out.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:43 PM
Marmol hasn't gone more then 6 IP all year. He has to be gassed.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:43 PM
I think you send lopez here.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:44 PM
I now await an angry post from someone about Jr.'s failure to deliver...

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:44 PM
I now await an angry post from someone about Jr.'s failure to deliver...
You'll only get that if Dunn gets out.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
I think you send lopez here.

He may be a little reluctant after the other night.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
He may be a little reluctant after the other night.


..Or not.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging. Lopez steals 2nd. 2 outs.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Dunn does a Dunn



Felipe steals 2nd.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:46 PM
I now await an angry post from someone about Jr.'s failure to deliver...

Not today....I'm still pissed off about him swinging on the first pitch, Friday and Sat. against a pitcher that struggles to find the strike zone.

BCubb2003
06-11-2006, 03:46 PM
Productive strikeout by Dunn moves the runner up.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Kearns flies out to right. 2-1 Cubs after 6.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Nice work offense.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:47 PM
I now await an angry post from someone attacking Kearns...

37red
06-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Felipe is always a threat on base. Pitchers must always be nervous when he's out there

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Milton should bean a Cub for that Marmol fist pump.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:48 PM
What is up with the Cubs pitchers showing all this emotion after a big out?

Does it make me mad....or jealous?:confused:

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Yep. I definitely did not quaff the "offense is back" Kool-Aid. This is about as brutally erratic offense as one could construct in baseball.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:48 PM
I now await an angry post from someone attacking Kearns...

Hes not Dunn so there probably wont be one.

Kc61
06-11-2006, 03:49 PM
I know batting average is irrelevant, but are hits irrelevant?

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Milton should bean a Cub for that Marmol fist pump.
How dare the kid making his 1st career start be excitied.

:rolleyes:

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:50 PM
How dare the kid making his 1st career start be excitied.

:rolleyes:

Yeah and Im sure the Reds players were real happy to see him do that.

:rolleyes:

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:50 PM
Yeah and Im sure the Reds players were real happy to see him do that.

:rolleyes:
Don't want him to do it? Get more then 2 hits against him.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Say what you will about Dusty: he gets his team pumped for the game, even when the talent's not there. He does a lot of other really dumb things, but you can never say a Cubs squad looks as passionless as the Reds are capable of looking.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Top 7th Cubs 2 Reds 1

Murton lines out to short. Nice catch by Lopez. 1 out.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Yep. I definitely did not quaff the "offense is back" Kool-Aid. This is about as brutally erratic offense as one could construct in baseball.

Hey FCB:

Do you think it's a line-up problem or a personel problem. It baffles me.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Yeah and Im sure the Reds players were real happy to see him do that.

:rolleyes:
That doesn't mean anything. If Dunn hits a walk-off HR and they wait to jump on him at home plate, should the whole Reds lineup get beaned the following day?

37red
06-11-2006, 03:52 PM
If what I asked is what took us away from the game I'm sorry. I was just looking for a 4th spot answer. I appologize for my temporary ignorance. Let's get back to the game.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:52 PM
Say what you will about Dusty: he gets his team pumped for the game, even when the talent's not there. He does a lot of other really dumb things, but you can never say a Cubs squad looks as passionless as the Reds are capable of looking.
While true, there are many players on this team that never seem to care about winning.

If only we had more guys like Freel, BP, and EE. Griffey I should probably add to that also.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:53 PM
That doesn't mean anything. If Dunn hits a walk-off HR and they wait to jump on him at home plate, should the whole Reds lineup get beaned the following day?

People seem to get ticked with Zambrano does his crap on the mound, but its alright when Marmol is doing it because hes a rookie.

:rolleyes:

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Jones grounds out to short. 2 outs.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Hey FCB:

Do you think it's a line-up problem or a personel problem. It baffles me.
Personel (sorry I know you weren't asking me)

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:54 PM
People seem to get ticked with Zambrano does his crap on the mound, but its alright when Marmol is doing it because hes a rookie.

:rolleyes:
Zambrano does it in the 2nd innign of a scoreless game. Marmol just went 6 IP and gave up 2 hits in his big league debut. Big difference.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Personel (sorry I know you weren't asking me)

It's Griffey's fault :D

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Cedeno walks.

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Geez, Milton continues to be the definition of an above-average pitcher. Would love to push a couple across in the next inning for him and give him a chance at a win.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Zambrano does it in the 2nd innign of a scoreless game. Marmol just went 6 IP and gave up 2 hits in his big league debut. Big difference.

Oh well, you guys can just forget my post.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Ugh. Perez homers 4-1 Cubs.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Ugh. Perez homers 4-1 Cubs.

Game Over?

:evil:

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
sickening...yet, another scrub batter spoils against the reds...ridiculous

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Wow...that hurts.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
ouch.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Again not the pitching's fault today. I am sure the offense will now get rally's the next 3 innings, but we will still lose.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
People seem to get ticked with Zambrano does his crap on the mound, but its alright when Marmol is doing it because hes a rookie.

:rolleyes:
Zambrano does it all game and Marmol did it in a big spot. 2 totally different situations. Though I don't mind anything that is not a complete embarrassment to the sport. If Griffey gets a hold of one, it takes him a little while to get out of the batter's box. Same thing.

Neifi Perez hits a HR. My pro-Milton comments from earlier have now been rescinded.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
I know batting average is irrelevant, but are hits irrelevant?

Teams need players like Dunn. They just don't need so many Dunn clones: Kearns, Hatteberg, Freel, etc. A team can't be all waity, no swingy.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
The Reds are now about to be on a 3 game skid...

Marc D
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Does that get Nefi back to .200?

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Bynum pinch hitting for Marmol singles to right.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Geez, Milton continues to be the definition of an above-average pitcher. Would love to push a couple across in the next inning for him and give him a chance at a win.

I guess you were typing this while he gave up the bomb.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
What is Narron waiting for?

membengal
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Dammit. My computer is behind. Typed the praise of Milton as he was walking Cedeno, and now that nut-kick from Perez of all people. Good lord. That sucks.

It occurs to me, next time everyone wonders why the Reds are not packing them in at GABP, that we all might reflect on the stinkos they have registered in front of large crowds this year, including the last three of this series...

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Teams need players like Dunn. They just don't need so many Dunn clones: Kearns, Hatteberg, Freel, etc. A team can't be all waity, no swingy.
Hatteberg is a Dunn clone?

:confused:

vaticanplum
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm moving. I can't take this anymore. Just enjoying watching a good game, two very good pitchers, and then bam we keep falling to the Cubs and I have to endure agony all around me for a week.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 03:57 PM
What is Narron waiting for?

1 more out.

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:58 PM
Yep. The real Milton comes home to roost.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 03:58 PM
What is Narron waiting for?

Hes asking the magic eight ball what he should do, but it hasnt answered back yet.

reds44
06-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Perez gets a clutch hit with 2 outs, the Reds aren't use to seeing that.

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 03:59 PM
wow, soon to be three out of four thanks to the potent bats of blanco and neifit and the pitching of a young rookie...brew crew next, then the sox come to town...how quickly things appear to be turning

Falls City Beer
06-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Hatteberg is a Dunn clone?

:confused:

Yep. A walker, not a contact hitter.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 04:00 PM
FLo...get your head out of your...

reds44
06-11-2006, 04:00 PM
Yep. A walker, not a contact hitter.
He's hitting .285.

Wow that was a disgusting play.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 04:00 PM
Pierre grounds to short. They try to get the fielder's choice at 2nd and the runner beats the throw. 1st and 2nd.

George Foster
06-11-2006, 04:00 PM
Dammit. My computer is behind. Typed the praise of Milton as he was walking Cedeno, and now that nut-kick from Perez of all people. Good lord. That sucks.

It occurs to me, next time everyone wonders why the Reds are not packing them in at GABP, that we all might reflect on the stinkos they have registered in front of large crowds this year, including the last three of this series...

I said the same thing last night....EVERYTIME we have a big crowd, we lose. The Reds need to leave those people with a positive feeling...so they return.

Matt700wlw
06-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Yep. The real Milton comes home to roost.

God forbid his offense help him out.

He didn't throw a stinker today, he didn't throw a gem....he's pitched well enough to give the Reds a chance to win, but their bats have been stone cold.

PickOff
06-11-2006, 04:01 PM
He had a hard time getting it out of his glove. Seems to be a general problem with Lopez.

Red in Chicago
06-11-2006, 04:01 PM
damn, felipe can really test a person's patience...

Kc61
06-11-2006, 04:02 PM
Yep. The real Milton comes home to roost.

Even the good Milton fades in the later innings. Reds brass doesn't seem to appreciate this.

edabbs44
06-11-2006, 04:02 PM
1 more out.
I hope he packed lunch.

vaticanplum
06-11-2006, 04:02 PM
I've gotta say, I like these Cubs TV announcers a lot better than I like Pat Hughes (I'm a big Santo fan, but he's home sick right now). They're obviously rooting for the Cubs, but they're pretty even-handed. Said the Reds will be more dangerous the second half because they're bound to trade for some help -- which is something that seems obvious on the rare occasions when people actually say it.

I'm much fonder of them than I am of the Reds' lineup at this moment.

CTA513
06-11-2006, 04:03 PM
The Reds have a real good chance of flying past the Cardinals and they are blowing it.

Marc D
06-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Yep. A walker, not a contact hitter.

IMO Hatteberg does a great job of working the count to get his pitch. He just can't do anything with it. Of course the flipside could be pitchers know this and instead of walk him they just dare him to hit it.

Whatever the reason I have lost count of how many times this year I've jumped up thinking Hatteberg just killed a ball and it doesn't even make the warning track.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2006, 04:04 PM
Walker grounds out to 1st. 4-1 Cubs mid 7th.