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Tornon
06-16-2006, 07:48 PM
Starting Lineups:

WHITE SOX
LF Podsednik
2B Iguchi
1B Konerko
RF Dye
3B Crede
C Widger
SS Uribe
CF Anderson
P Garcia

REDS
SS Lopez
2B Phillips
CF Griffey
3B Aurilia
LF Dunn
RF Kearns
1B Hatteberg
C Ross
P Claussen

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:10 PM
Claussen throws a ball inside and we are underway

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:11 PM
Podsednik lines out to Griffey, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Iguchi lines a single up the middle, Griffey bobbles the ball and Iguchi makes it to second

captainmorgan07
06-16-2006, 08:13 PM
basehit for iguchi

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:15 PM
Claussen gets behind 3-0, throws two strikes to make it 3-2 and Konerko draws a walk

GAC
06-16-2006, 08:17 PM
Chat is open! :beerme:

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:17 PM
On a 3-2 pitch, Dye draws a walk

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:19 PM
Crede goes yard to left, 4-0 White Sox

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 08:20 PM
Marty loves Brandon Claussen.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:22 PM
Widger pops to Hatteberg, 2 out

jimbo
06-16-2006, 08:23 PM
How many more starts do we give Claussen before we either move him into the pen or to Louisville (not sure if he has options left)? I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, Claussen has the stuff but I question whether he has the mental game to succeed in the majors.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:23 PM
Uribe loses his bat as he pops to Hatteberg, 4-0 White Sox middle of 1

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:25 PM
Lopez lines a hit to left

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:27 PM
Phillips pops to short, 1 out

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 08:27 PM
How many more starts do we give Claussen before we either move him into the pen or to Louisville (not sure if he has options left)? I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, Claussen has the stuff but I question whether he has the mental game to succeed in the majors.


Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes I wonder if the Yankees knew something that we didn't, when that trade was made.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:30 PM
Griffey pokes a curveball into right for a single

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:32 PM
Aurilia.. GONE!! 4-3 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:34 PM
Dunn flies to right, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:36 PM
Kearns works a walk

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:37 PM
Kearns swipes second easily

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:38 PM
Hatteberg flies to center, 4-3 White Sox after 1

howyoufreelin
06-16-2006, 08:41 PM
I think this will be Claussen's last start, Joe Mays is going to get his chance. Hopefully Claussen can calm down so we can pull this one out.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:42 PM
Claussen out in the 2nd hoping for better things, goes 3-2 on Anderson before he lines a double into left center

howyoufreelin
06-16-2006, 08:43 PM
He has been behind on every hitter tonight. I may only be a high school pitcher, but even I know you can't do that.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:43 PM
Garcia with a sac bunt, 1 out

saboforthird
06-16-2006, 08:43 PM
I think Junior could have gotten that ball into second a little faster. It was obvious from the get-go that the dude was thinking double all the way.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:45 PM
On a 3-1 pitch, Podsednik lines a single to left. 5-3 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:46 PM
Iguchi flies to Griffey, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:47 PM
Konerko lines a double down the left field line.. they had a shot to get Podsednik at the plate but Lopez didn't make a very good throw. 6-3 White Sox

jimbo
06-16-2006, 08:47 PM
A left-handed center fielder going to his right to field the ball and then going to second isn't the easiest thing to do. He made an excellent throw, don't know how he could have done it any better or faster.

On another note......get Claussen out please!!!!!!!! Bring in Mays and let's see what he can do.

howyoufreelin
06-16-2006, 08:48 PM
Get Claussen out of there, and send him to AAA pronto.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:48 PM
Dye flies to Kearns, 6-3 White Sox middle of 2

howyoufreelin
06-16-2006, 08:49 PM
Looks like Mays will be coming in next inning. We're not out of this yet, especially in this ballpark.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:51 PM
Ross flies to right on the first pitch, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:52 PM
Claussen Ks swinging at a pitch in the dirt, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:54 PM
Lopez flies to the wall in right, 6-3 White Sox after 2

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Crede grounds one off Claussen and Phillips cannot make the play.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:58 PM
Widger bunts and Claussen cannot field it, single

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 08:59 PM
What are we waiting on Narron?! Take Claussen out!

Tornon
06-16-2006, 08:59 PM
Uribe doubles off the wall in left, 7-3 White Sox

jimbo
06-16-2006, 09:00 PM
Geez......Narron, don't you think 7 runs is enough???

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:00 PM
Reds going to the bullpen, Mays coming in to pitch

savafan
06-16-2006, 09:00 PM
What happened to Claussen? This isn't the same guy we saw pitching last year.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:04 PM
Anderson grounds a single into right, scoring one. 8-3 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:05 PM
Garcia Ks swinging at a pitch in the dirt, Andeson gets to second. 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Podsednik singles up the middle, 2 runs score. 10-3 White Sox

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 09:08 PM
Everybody in the lineup has a hit except the pitcher and Jermaine Dye. Unbelievable!

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Iguchi Ks looking, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Konerko lines to Griffey, 10-3 White Sox middle of 3

RedEye
06-16-2006, 09:10 PM
Is this Claussen's last hurrah? I can't see them throwing him out there that much longer. He looked positively Dave Williamesque tonight. Maybe he's hiding an injury?

jimbo
06-16-2006, 09:11 PM
Is this Claussen's last hurrah? I can't see them throwing him out there that much longer. He looked positively Dave Williamesque tonight. Maybe he's hiding an injury?

A brain cramp maybe?

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:12 PM
Phillips flies to the wall in left, 1 out

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 09:13 PM
Claussen should have been taken out before the inning.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:13 PM
Griffey grounds to first, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:14 PM
Aurilia Ks swinging, 10-3 White Sox after 3

griffeyfreak4
06-16-2006, 09:14 PM
Nature Boy K's and Garcia has retired 7 in a row

jimbo
06-16-2006, 09:16 PM
Claussen should have been taken out before the inning.

Yep, should have been pinch-hit for.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:16 PM
Dye grounds to Aurilia, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Crede bloops one to left that Dunn dives for and cannot get, double

savafan
06-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Is this Claussen's last hurrah? I can't see them throwing him out there that much longer. He looked positively Dave Williamesque tonight. Maybe he's hiding an injury?

I was just thinking about him possibly being injured as well.

saboforthird
06-16-2006, 09:18 PM
Claussen just didn't seem to "have it" tonight. He looks worn out, but I guess poor pitching performance after poor pitching performance can do that to a fella. ;)

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:19 PM
Widger flies to Griffey, 2 out

jimbo
06-16-2006, 09:21 PM
I was just thinking about him possibly being injured as well.

I don't think he is injured. His velocity is pretty much the same. He just isn't keeping the ball down or pitching aggressively (inside). In my opinion his problems are in his head. I'm not a pitching coach though, just my best guess.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:22 PM
Uribe singles on one hop to Dunn who guns down Crede trying to score, 10-3 White Sox middle of 4

jimbo
06-16-2006, 09:22 PM
Wow, nice throw by Dunn.....didn't see that coming.

griffeyfreak4
06-16-2006, 09:22 PM
Good throw Dunner!!!! You show them Dunn haters!! :evil:

Crede out at the plate, 10-3 going into bottom 4.

savafan
06-16-2006, 09:22 PM
Man, I can hear the vendor from hell in the background while watching the game on FSN. That guy's incredibly loud.

RedEye
06-16-2006, 09:22 PM
I was just thinking about him possibly being injured as well.

Wasn't has fastball more like 90-91 last year? Or at least 88-89? Tonight it was only 86-87. That's just not getting it done. And 60 pitches in 2+ innings? Maybe we should move Mays to the rotation.:rolleyes:

griffeyfreak4
06-16-2006, 09:23 PM
I don't think he is injured. His velocity is pretty much the same. He just isn't keeping the ball down or pitching aggressively (inside). In my opinion his problems are in his head. I'm not a pitching coach though, just my best guess.
I would still rather have Mays.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:25 PM
Dunn Ks swinging, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:26 PM
Kearns brings back memories of last year as he throws his bat at the White Sox fans

griffeyfreak4
06-16-2006, 09:27 PM
Hahahahahahaha! DJ, the ChiSox color announcer, just said, "I always find it interesting to watch guys like Dunn and Thome who strike out 150,000 times a year hit and see how they approach ever AB."

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:27 PM
Kearns flies to the edge of the warning track in left, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Hatteberg grounds to second, 10-3 White Sox after 4

indyred
06-16-2006, 09:28 PM
How cool for the guy with Kearns bat..........he will have nice video to go along with it.......cool of AK for not asking for it back.........

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:31 PM
Andereson flies to Dunn, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:32 PM
Garcia singles by Lopez

KronoRed
06-16-2006, 09:32 PM
How cool for the guy with Kearns bat..........he will have nice video to go along with it.......cool of AK for not asking for it back.........
Likes that he let those kids see it, hope they remember that and not the Reds being killed :lol:

savafan
06-16-2006, 09:33 PM
Everybody in the lineup has a hit except the pitcher and Jermaine Dye. Unbelievable!

May want to update that.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:33 PM
Podsednik bounces into a 6-3 double play, 10-3 White Sox middle of 5

GOREDSGO32
06-16-2006, 09:34 PM
Wow Claussen sucks. Pink slip please.

griffeyfreak4
06-16-2006, 09:35 PM
Is it just me or is Joe Mays pitching extremely well for us this year?

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:37 PM
Ross Ks trying to check his swing, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:38 PM
Mays bounces one in front of the plate, Garcia fields it. 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:40 PM
Lopez singles up the middle

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:40 PM
Phillips grounds to short, 10-3 White Sox after 5

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Iguchi flies to Griffey, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:46 PM
Konerko grounds one to Aurilia that he barehands and throws but Hatteberg comes off the bag. Single

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:47 PM
Dye singles up the middle

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:49 PM
Crede flies to Kearns at the wall, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:53 PM
Widger grounds to Aurilia, who throws it away at first. Runners move up as the ball goes out of play, 11-3 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 09:58 PM
Uribe flies to Griffey, 11-3 White Sox middle of 6

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:00 PM
Ross Gload in to play first
Griffey flies to left on the first pitch, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:02 PM
Aurilia pops to first, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:03 PM
Dunn Ks swinging at a pitch in the dirt, 11-3 White Sox after 6

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:05 PM
Yan in to pitch
McCracken in to play center

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:06 PM
Anderson grounds the first pitch to Lopez, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:07 PM
Garcia lines to Kearns, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:09 PM
Podsednik Ks looking, 11-3 White Sox middle of 7

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:11 PM
Kearns.. GONE!! 11-4 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:12 PM
Hatteberg grounds to second, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:14 PM
Ross grounds to third, throw not in time.
LaRue pinch hitting

cincy09
06-16-2006, 10:15 PM
11-4 we're still in it

cincy09
06-16-2006, 10:15 PM
nevermind

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:16 PM
LaRue shoots one to second, 4-3 double play.
11-4 White Sox after 7

jimbo
06-16-2006, 10:16 PM
Wow, LaRue was really hustling down the line. He'll be showered and out of the park by the 9th inning.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:17 PM
White in to pitch

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:19 PM
Iguchi walks on 4 pitches

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:21 PM
Iguchi to second on a wild pitch

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:21 PM
Gload singles up the middle, Iguchi to third

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:22 PM
Dye flies to McCracken, Iguchi scores. 12-4 White Sox

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:24 PM
Crede flies to right, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:25 PM
Widger grounds to Aurilia, 12-4 White Sox middle of 8

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:28 PM
Pablo Ozuna in to play third

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Lopez flies to center, 1 out

dman
06-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Will the REAL Cincinnati Reds please step forward? I don't agree with Marty on much of what he says anymore, but the one thing I will agree with him on is that following this team is an emotional roller coaster ride of sorts.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:30 PM
Phillips lines a single to center

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:33 PM
McCracken Ks swinging, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:34 PM
Aurilia grounds to short, 12-4 White Sox after 8

bottom_feeder
06-16-2006, 10:35 PM
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes I wonder if the Yankees knew something that we didn't, when that trade was made.

The Yankees knew the Reds wanted money in 2003. The cash they gave us for Gabe White (in a later trade) was enough. Claussen was coming off surgury but had good enough numbers pre-surgery to make the trade look palatable to the fans.

2003 was a pure disaster. The Reds were lucky that Harang worked as hard as he did to seize the opportunity of starting.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Uribe flies to Kearns on the warning track, 1 out

savafan
06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Did George just say Austin Cruz?

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Anderson grounds to Aurilia, 2 out
Alex Cintron to pinch hit

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:38 PM
Cintron flies to Dunn, 12-4 White Sox middle of 9

CincyReds2003
06-16-2006, 10:40 PM
McCracken Ks swinging, 2 out



Probably one of his last AB's with the Reds with Encarnacion coming off the DL soon. I don't understand why he is still with the Reds. We have better guys in the minors that can take his place such as Olmedo, Denorfia, and others.

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:40 PM
David Riske in to pitch

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:44 PM
Riske throws 3 straight balls to Dunn, then gets the count back to 3-2 before Dunn Ks swinging, 1 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:46 PM
Kearns Ks swinging, 2 out

Tornon
06-16-2006, 10:48 PM
Hatteberg lines to center, White Sox win 12-4

WP Freddy Garcia
LP Brandon Claussen

Hopefully thinks will look up tomorrow

saboforthird
06-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Did George just say Austin Cruz?

Yes, he did. I don't know which is more comical, watching this Reds team implode before our very eyes, or listening to the Grande Twins.

red-in-la
06-16-2006, 11:16 PM
Hatteberg lines to center, White Sox win 12-4

WP Freddy Garcia
LP Brandon Claussen

Hopefully thinks will look up tomorrow

Well, that went well.....:rolleyes:

Ltlabner
06-16-2006, 11:48 PM
Observations from the game. Just got back and here are some random thoughts about tonights so-called baseball game.

1) Pretty nice crowd at the stadium. 30k+ I believe. Unfortuntaly, the White Sox fans were louder than the Reds fans. Durring the 1st inning they chanted "Paulie" when Kernorko came to the plate and it was overwhelming.

2) Claussen, as we all know, was downright miserable. He was done from the 1st pitch on and it got worse from there. I don't know if he's hurt, has totally lost his confidence or generally has just lost it but in any of these options the result is the same. Horrible. And he made two horrible defensive plays in the 3rd to further sink his own boat.

3) Marty B and Hal McCoy were both convinced that Claussen would be pulled from the rotation before his next start in New York.

4) Dunn made a really good defensive play, taking a hit on the short-hop and then throwing out the runner at home plate. Unfortunatley, he also went 0-4.

5) Rick White came in and promptly gave up more runs. Why he continues to pitch on this club is beyond me.

Ok, there it is. Nothing here is very shocking, but I thought I'd pass along my observations from tonights disaster at GABP.

savafan
06-16-2006, 11:50 PM
3) Marty B and Hal McCoy were both convinced that Claussen would be pulled from the rotation before his next start in New York.



I would think that too, but I don't know who you put in the rotation. I'd hate to see Joe Mays there, no matter how good he's looked in relief lately. How long until Belisle comes back?