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SteveJRogers
06-22-2006, 01:28 PM
Is there a selection process for Reds HOFers? I assume there must be a wait period, otherwise Larkin would be out there with Seaver, May and Browning induction day.

Wonder who else from the 1990 Reds will get in. Rijo, Browning, Davis are in, Larkin will be.

Should John Franco go in? Hmmm...

savafan
06-22-2006, 01:49 PM
Should John Franco go in? Hmmm...

If I recall correctly, isn't Franco #2 on the Reds' all-time saves list behind Danny Graves?

Redsland
06-22-2006, 02:10 PM
If I recall correctly, isn't Franco #2 on the Reds' all-time saves list behind Danny Graves?
I believe so.

As for the OP, according to the Reds HoF FAQ (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cin/ballpark/museum/hofqa.jsp):

How have players been elected?

From 1958-'88, players were selected by a fan vote. Ballots were printed in the newspapers. After a nine-year hiatus, the Hall of Fame was revived in 1998 by the Cincinnati chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association of America and the COO of the Reds, John Allen. The writers, whose national organization selects the players for the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, elected the players to the Reds Hall of Fame from 1998-2004.

In 2004, the Board of Directors of the new Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame and Museum decided to return the vote to the fans. The writers retained an active voice in the process by identifying the players to be placed on the fan ballot.

westofyou
06-22-2006, 02:15 PM
Wayne Granger's in, Harry Craft's in everyone gets in.

SteveJRogers
06-22-2006, 02:29 PM
If I recall correctly, isn't Franco #2 on the Reds' all-time saves list behind Danny Graves?

Ironically two persona no gratas with Mets fans.

Graves based on his ineptitude, Franco based on alleged clubhouse politics and percieved selfishness as well as declining performance on the mound

Redsland
06-22-2006, 02:44 PM
If I recall correctly, isn't Franco #2 on the Reds' all-time saves list behind Danny Graves?
Here are the Reds top 30 all-time career saves leaders.

1. D Graves* 182
2. J Franco 148
3. C Carroll 119
4. J Brantley 88
4. R Dibble 88
4. T Hume 88
7. P Borbon 76
8. W Granger 73
9. J Shaw 69
10. B Henry 64
11. R Eastwick 57
12. S Williamson* 54
13. D Bair 50
13. B McCool 50
15. T Power 44
16. J Brosnan 43
16. F Smith 43
18. T Abernathy 41
19. H Freeman 37
19. R Myers 37
21. H Gumbert 35
22. N Charlton 29
23. J Beggs 27
24. W McEnaney 24
24. D Weathers* 24
26. B Lawrence 20
27. R Robinson 19
28. J Nuxhall 18
29. P Derringer 17
29. T Hall 17
29. R Kolp 17

KronoRed
06-22-2006, 03:17 PM
Wayne Granger's in, Harry Craft's in everyone gets in.
How long till people want Rich Aurilia and Sean Casey in? :devil:

SteveJRogers
06-22-2006, 03:20 PM
Put in Doug Flynn and Pat Zachry! =;)

redsfanfalcon
06-22-2006, 03:37 PM
I think you have to be a Red for 5 years. So, that leaves a guy, for example, like Randy Myers out. (not that I think he should be in)

redsmetz
06-22-2006, 03:38 PM
Wayne Granger's in, Harry Craft's in everyone gets in.

I don't know enough about Harry Craft, but in Granger's defense, he was second only to Clay Carrol in Saves and Carrol did his in about 8 years, to just three for Granger. Of course they both pitched in an era when Saves were not a dime a dozen.

westofyou
06-22-2006, 03:49 PM
I don't know enough about Harry Craft, but in Granger's defense, he was second only to Clay Carrol in Saves and Carrol did his in about 8 years, to just three for Granger. Of course they both pitched in an era when Saves were not a dime a dozen.
Both didn't play enough to qualify for "Hall of Fame" status IMO, Wayne is 150th in Reds history in IP, right behind Jim Brosnan , who was perhaps the best relief pitcher (vs the league average) that the Reds had for over 2 season in the 60's. He had the exact same impact as Granger from where I sit.

Bur what makes either a Reds HOF member?

I'll say that Scott Sullivan is more of a Red HOF player than either Granger or Brosnan.

Redsland
06-22-2006, 04:31 PM
I think you have to be a Red for 5 years.
Actually, the requirement is only three years.

Personally, I think it should be five. (But then they didn't ask me.)

:)