Game thread - Adam Dunn hitting second tonight vs. Royals

[redsfan30]

According to Marc Lancaster, here is tonight's lineup:

1. Felipe Lopez SS
2. Adam Dunn LF
3. Ken Griffey, Jr. CF
4. Rich Aurilia 3B
5. Scott Hatteberg 1B
6. Austin Kearns RF
7. Brandon Phillips 2B
8. David Ross C
9. Eric Milton P

[NatiRedGals]

Beat ya by 1 second ! :) LOL

[Javy Pornstache]

Well, as long as Aurilia is cleaning up, all is right in the world today.

[KronoRed]

That is one ugly 4 and 5 hitting tandem.

[TeamBoone]

Why o why does JN insist on batting RA in the cleanup spot? Has any reporter ever asked him that question? I would love to hear his answer.

[TC81190]

That is one ugly 4 and 5 hitting tandem.

Yea Hatteberg sucks ass, a 390 OBP isn't worth crap. :rolleyes:

[Heath]

Why o why does JN insist on batting RA in the cleanup spot? Has any reporter ever asked him that question? I would love to hear his answer.

I need to see the Lineup splits for Richie.

Lancaster would probably be the only one inclined to ask that question. McCoy, Fay, Brennaman, et. al seem to have a fetish for Aurilia. It only centers around his "veteran precense" "Knows How To Play The Game" - yadda yadda yadda....he's hitting fourth.

[edabbs44]

4 & 5 is a joke. Three is a humorous pun, bordering on joke. Poor Phillips.

[Matt700wlw]

Why o why does JN insist on batting RA in the cleanup spot? Has any reporter ever asked him that question? I would love to hear his answer.

He's a professional hitter; He can hit with RISP; He's been on winning ball clubs; He's a clutch hitter....

:dunno:

It would probably be one of those...or a variation of several.

[HBP]

vs. RHP this year

Avg OBP
1. Felipe Lopez SS .286 .372
2. Adam Dunn LF .189 .325
3. Ken Griffey, Jr. CF .269 .328
4. Rich Aurilia 3B .217 .250
5. Scott Hatteberg 1B .289 .399
6. Austin Kearns RF .250 .330
7. Brandon Phillips 2B .305 .355
8. David Ross C .284 .354
9. Eric Milton P .118 .118

[reds44]

Edwin needs to go like 5-5 with 10 rbi's tonight because we need him back in the lineup badly.

If it was Edwin at 4 and BP and 5, the lineup wouldn't look so awful.

[KronoRed]

Yea Hatteberg sucks ass, a 390 OBP isn't worth crap. :rolleyes:
Hitting 5th I look at slugging percentage

[whodeynati85]

Hatteberg is not a 5th hitter!

[TC81190]

Hitting 5th I look at slugging percentage

Gotcha. Thought that was a dig at Hatteberg.

Switch Dunn and Hatteberg.

[Matt700wlw]

Actually, as much sense as it doesn't make, the Reds do have a better record with Rich batting 4th than anybody else batting 4th.

[reds44]

Hatteberg is not a 5th hitter!
Rich is not a 4 hitter, Felipe isn't a leadoff hitter, Dunn isn't a 2 hitter.

[Caveat Emperor]

Why o why does JN insist on batting RA in the cleanup spot? Has any reporter ever asked him that question? I would love to hear his answer.

Because everybody knows that the NAYTCHAH BOYYY belongs in the main event. WOOOO!

[Willy]

It makes you wonder if JN even looks at the stats when he makes a lineup like this.

[Ibleedblue]

Wow, what did he pull names out of a hat to make that lineup?

[HBP]

OPS vs. RHP added
Aurilla's OPS is .227 better than Milton's


Avg OBP OPS
1. Felipe Lopez SS .286 .372 .792
2. Adam Dunn LF .189 .325 .794
3. Ken Griffey, Jr. CF .269 .328 .832
4. Rich Aurilia 3B .217 .250 .580
5. Scott Hatteberg 1B .289 .399 .827
6. Austin Kearns RF .250 .330 .773
7. Brandon Phillips 2B .305 .355 .816
8. David Ross C .284 .354 .922
9. Eric Milton P .118 .118 .353

[Willy]

Lopez
Hatteberg
Griffey
Kearns
Philips
Dunn
Ross
Aurillia

Looking at the stats, that is how I would do it.

[Matt700wlw]

Wow...Dunn's batting .189

:yikes: :eek:

That's bad

[reds44]

Lopez
Dunn
Griffey
Edwin
Phillips
Kearns
Hatteberg
Ross

That shoudl be Friday's lineup.

[KronoRed]

Actually, as much sense as it doesn't make, the Reds do have a better record with Rich batting 4th than anybody else batting 4th.
We won some games with Womack leading off :devil:

[fielder's choice]

Everytime I see :aurilia: in the cleanup spot, especially against righties, I wanna kick Narron in the nuts! :bang: :angry: :all_cohol :bash: :barf: :rant2: :runaway: :runawaycr :explode:

[Matt700wlw]

We won some games with Womack leading off :devil:

Small sample size ;)

[Puffy]

I love Dunn batting second for now.

As for Aurilia batting 4th vs a righty - we've beaten this horse to death. Narron is quite possibly the only manager in the Majors who would do it night after night. Its preposterous, but what are ya gonna do.

[Puffy]

Everytime I see :aurilia: in the cleanup spot, especially against righties, I wanna kick Narron in the nuts!

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[Reds Fanatic]

Here are the stats for how Aurilia has hit in every spot in the order. It is amazing how rarely they have had him in any other spot than 4th.


Category G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG TB SF SH HBP IBB GDP
LINEUP SLOT 3 9 38 8 13 5 0 3 6 4 2 1 0 .405 .711 .342 27 0 0 0 0 1
LINEUP SLOT 4 28 114 17 30 7 0 6 21 7 16 0 0 .309 .482 .263 55 1 1 1 0 2
LINEUP SLOT 5 3 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .091 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 6 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 1 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 8 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 9 6 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 1

[Razor Shines]

Are the Reds still seriously holding out hope that RA will return to his 35+ hr, 90+ rbi form? I know that lasik surgery is great but the fountain of youth it is not.
And even that was really only one year.

[vaticanplum]

Edwin needs to go like 5-5 with 10 rbi's tonight because we need him back in the lineup badly.

I don't remember him warming the bench that much when he was healthy; I see no reason that he won't be in the lineup regularly unless he plays himself out of it or is hurt.

[Matt700wlw]

I don't remember him warming the bench that much when he was healthy; I see no reason that he won't be in the lineup regularly unless he plays himself out of it or is hurt.

Edwin should get his 3B job back, and Rich and Hatte would platoon at first again.

When Edwin has a day off, I'd put Freel at 3B if at all possible.

[Puffy]

Category G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG TB SF SH HBP IBB GDP
LINEUP SLOT 3 9 38 8 13 5 0 3 6 4 2 1 0 .405 .711 .342 27 0 0 0 0 1
LINEUP SLOT 4 28 114 17 30 7 0 6 21 7 16 0 0 .309 .482 .263 55 1 1 1 0 2
LINEUP SLOT 5 3 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .091 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 6 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 1 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 8 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0
LINEUP SLOT 9 6 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 1


So, basically when Aurilia plays he bats 3rd or 4th.

Like I said, Narron is the only manager in major league baseball who would possibly do this.

[captainmorgan07]

as much as we complain about ra not a cleanup guy dunn cleary is not a 2 hole hitter last time i checked he isn't a contact guy who can move guys over it might be to avoid the shift or allow griffey to see a few more pitches as tehy won't want to pitch to dunn

[reds44]

Edwin should get his 3B job back, and Rich and Hatte would platoon at first again.

When Edwin has a day off, I'd put Freel at 3B if at all possible.
If Edwin doesn't get his job back Narron needs to be fired on the spot. And when I say he should get his job back, I mean everyday. None of this platoon crap.

[reds44]

I don't remember him warming the bench that much when he was healthy; I see no reason that he won't be in the lineup regularly unless he plays himself out of it or is hurt.
I meant more as get him to the bigs quicker, he better have his job back.

[Ltlabner]

Narron would be insane to continue to put RA in at 3B and take any time away from EE. I have no problem with RA and Hatte platooning at first and him getting playing time. I like RA and what he brings to the team, but plattoning with Hatte is about all the time he should get. EE needs every start possible at 3B to gain experience and to learn how to avoid the errors. Crazy vet love or no, EE is the future, RA is not.

[fisch11]

I like this. It's pretty obvious that Narron is using Griffey to give Dunn some protection in the lineup. They are either going to pitch him or walk him. I'll take fastballs to Dunn or a walk if Jr. is behind him.

[Heath]

we are the only team in organized baseball that has a 4th place cleanup hitter with an OPS of under .600 against RHP.

There are Little League teams with clean-up hitters that hit better than that.

How Jerry Narron has gone over .500 with his managing is absoultely perplexing to me.

[KronoRed]

How Jerry Narron has gone over .500 with his managing is absoultely perplexing to me.
Good starting pitching covers a lot of flaws

[RichRed]

Wow, what did he pull names out of a hat to make that lineup?

I think Billy Martin did that once. He was probably drunk. Not sure what Narron's excuse is.

[saboforthird]

Yea Hatteberg sucks ass, a 390 OBP isn't worth crap. :rolleyes:

And, the only thing that matters around here is OBP. :rolleyes:

[MaineRed]

Exactly who should be hitting clean-up? Especially if Narron wants to move Dunn to try to get him going?

And to think we have a thread just to rip on Card fans for criticizing their team. What is so funny about Card fans doing it, Red fans do it in every thread on this board, no matter what it is.

What Narron is doing is obviously working. You'd never know it though by what you read here.

[reds44]

Exactly who should be hitting clean-up? Especially if Narron wants to move Dunn to try to get him going?

And to think we have a thread just to rip on Card fans for criticizing their team. What is so funny about Card fans doing it, Red fans do it in every thread on this board, no matter what it is.

What Narron is doing is obviously working. You'd never know it though by what you read here.
We have scored 3.2 RPG since Edwin went on the DL and are 5-10. Most, if not all of that is with RA batting 4th.

That is what you think is "working"?

[RichRed]

Exactly who should be hitting clean-up? Especially if Narron wants to move Dunn to try to get him going?

And to think we have a thread just to rip on Card fans for criticizing their team. What is so funny about Card fans doing it, Red fans do it in every thread on this board, no matter what it is.

What Narron is doing is obviously working. You'd never know it though by what you read here.

Narron is doing his best to reduce run scoring. The Reds are winning because the starting pitching has exceeded expectations. No matter how you slice it, batting Aurilia cleanup game after game is moronic.

[fielder's choice]

Exactly who should be hitting clean-up? Especially if Narron wants to move Dunn to try to get him going?

And to think we have a thread just to rip on Card fans for criticizing their team. What is so funny about Card fans doing it, Red fans do it in every thread on this board, no matter what it is.

What Narron is doing is obviously working. You'd never know it though by what you read here.

I'm pretty sure the reason the Reds are over .500 isn't because Aurilia hits cleanup all the time. I'm not positive, though...

[Razor Shines]

Narron is doing his best to reduce run scoring. The Reds are winning because the starting pitching has exceeded expectations. No matter how you slice it, batting Aurilia cleanup game after game is moronic.
Well I think he could do a little better, if that was his true goal. He could start bunting guys with 2 on and 2 outs.

[MaineRed]

The Reds are 1.5 games out of first. I think what Narron is doing is working just fine. So the team has struggled over their last 15. Those things happen over the course of the season.

Perhaps it is Edwin being out more than Aurillia being in that is hurting the Reds.

[fielder's choice]

There's no way to defend sticking someone with an OPS under .600 agaisnt RHP in the middle of your lineup against righty after righty.

[bounty37h]

Edwin needs to go like 5-5 with 10 rbi's tonight because we need him back in the lineup badly.

If it was Edwin at 4 and BP and 5, the lineup wouldn't look so awful.

Till he took the field...

[reds44]

Till he took the field...
Till who took the field? Edwin?

The guy with the best RBI per AB ratio on the team? The guy with the best extra base hit per AB ratio on the team?

Yeah he plays shotty defense, but he is 23. He will learn. Not everyoen is Albert Pujols.

[MaineRed]

Yeah, maybe Narron should replace Rich with that hot fielding, slick hitting left handed thirdbaseman we have rotting on our bench.

[reds44]

Yeah, maybe Narron should replace Rich with that hot fielding, slick hitting left handed thirdbaseman we have rotting on our bench.
Or how about that actual leadoff hitter we have on the bench?

[fielder's choice]

Yeah, maybe Narron should replace Rich with that hot fielding, slick hitting left handed thirdbaseman we have rotting on our bench.

Freel is righthanded.

[Razor Shines]

Till who took the field? Edwin?

The guy with the best RBI per AB ratio on the team? The guy with the best extra base hit per AB ratio on the team?

Yeah he plays shotty defense, but he is 23. He will learn. Not everyoen is Albert Pujols.
Is he? Is Pujols really 26?

[Heath]

The Reds are 1.5 games out of first. I think what Narron is doing is working just fine. So the team has struggled over their last 15. Those things happen over the course of the season.

Perhaps it is Edwin being out more than Aurillia being in that is hurting the Reds.

The reason the Reds are still only 1.5 games out, because the rest of the division is mediocre. The Reds have had a 5-11 record since they won 7 in a row in the beginning of the month. Thankfully, the Cardinals are playing just as bad as everyone else, so the pack has fallen back.

So, in reality, the Reds are still in a pennant race, in spite of Narron managing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but what he's does is baffling sometimes.

IMO, Kearns should bat fourth for a spell or Encarnacion when he comes back.

[reds44]

Is he? Is Pujols really 26?
:bang:

[Heath]

Is he? Is Pujols really 26?

Are you really Razor Shines?

:D

[edabbs44]

I love Dunn batting second for now.

As for Aurilia batting 4th vs a righty - we've beaten this horse to death. Narron is quite possibly the only manager in the Majors who would do it night after night. Its preposterous, but what are ya gonna do.
I think Hatte should be hitting 2 vs RHPs for now. Dunn has been atrocious in all aspects vs RHPs.

[bounty37h]

Till who took the field? Edwin?

The guy with the best RBI per AB ratio on the team? The guy with the best extra base hit per AB ratio on the team?

Yeah he plays shotty defense, but he is 23. He will learn. Not everyoen is Albert Pujols.

Yeah, Edwin. Remember, a lineup is 2 sides of the game, offense and defense, thats why I commented till he took the field.
I dont doubt he can/will be a superstar, and will improve his D (at least cant get much worse) but watching him in the field almost makes me wish we were an AL team looking for a DH. I saw him at Chatanooga throw 2 ballsin the stands during warmups!

[reds44]

Yeah, Edwin. Remember, a lineup is 2 sides of the game, offense and defense, thats why I commented till he took the field.
I dont doubt he can/will be a superstar, and will improve his D (at least cant get much worse) but watching him in the field almost makes me wish we were an AL team looking for a DH. I saw him at Chatanooga throw 2 ballsin the stands during warmups!
He's not anymore worse then our SS. Rich isn't exactly a wizard with the glove over there either.

[KronoRed]

At least he gets to the balls, Aurilia and Castro only get to the ones hit right at them ;)

[Razor Shines]

:bang:
I'm messing with you guys. I was just making light of all the Pujols age talk.


And yes I'm RAAAAZOR SHIIIIIINES!!

[HotCorner]

No Freel. The RA/SH 4-5 combo. Fantastic! :rolleyes:

[bounty37h]

He's not anymore worse then our SS. Rich isn't exactly a wizard with the glove over there either.

haha, true, true. It wa sfunny, one night at a Mudcats game, fans behind first base put on catchers masks, football helmets, etc when Edwin was on the field.

[Highlifeman21]

And, the only thing that matters around here is OBP. :rolleyes:


Pretty sure it's a proven fact that getting on base at a high rate isn't a bad thing. If you don't like guys that get on base at a high rate, then I guess you're a Royals fan.

[RedsMan3203]

Guys.. We have 2 hours before the game starts.... We are already on page 4...

This is going to be a long game thread.

[Razor Shines]

Guys.. We have 2 hours before the game starts.... We are already on page 4...

This is going to be a long game thread.
Actually we are on page 4 yours hasn't started yet. So thanks for running our page count up you buncha jerks.
*kidding, kidding*

[redsfanmia]

Yea Hatteberg sucks ass, a 390 OBP isn't worth crap. :rolleyes:


His RBI total does thoough.

[KronoRed]

Guys.. We have 2 hours before the game starts.... We are already on page 4...

This is going to be a long game thread.
Especially if the Royals tee off on the Milton

[Redhook]

Lopez
Dunn
Griffey
Edwin
Phillips
Kearns
Hatteberg
Ross

That shoudl be Friday's lineup.

or how about this?

Freel LF/3B
Phillips 2B
Lopez SS
Griffey CF
Kearns RF
Dunn 1B/LF
Edwin 3B/1B
Ross C

To me, that's a pretty damn good lineup. Lots of speed at the top of the lineup. A great RBI guy batting 4th which is what we desperately need. I believe Griffey definitely needs to be moved to the cleanup spot. After that I think Kearns, Dunn, and Edwin can be somewhat interchangable dependent upon whose pitching, etc.

[RedsFanInMD]

I'm not defending the decision to bat RA #4, but I think RA represents JN's go-to guy. That is, for whatever reason JN places a great deal of trust and faith in him partly because he is a veteran and partly because he is so versatile.

I think what's lost on JN's part is that it may be OK to have RA hit 4th in a pinch, especially against LH pitching -- but I think it's become too much of a pattern. I think the real issue is that JN does not see a viable clean up hitter on the roster right now, which is a problem in and of itself.

He probably does not want to screw with the success that BP has had, for example, by placing that kind of pressure on him as a cleanup hitter. We all know why Dunn isn't hitting there. (I actually like the idea of trying him at #2) I'd probably prefer Kearns there to RA, but let's not forget that Keans is finally getting his sealegs under him this year, after some disappointing seasons. Kearns has also grounded into a lot of DPs.

In the final analysis, I think JN bats RA 4th, because he views that as his safest alternative. RA is NOT a prototypical cleanup hitter, but he's not a big strikeout victim, he's savvy enough not to buckle to the pressue, and he represents a known commodity.

[pedro]

I'm not defending the decision to bat RA #4, but I think RA represents JN's go-to guy. That is, for whatever reason JN places a great deal of trust and faith in him partly because he is a veteran and partly because he is so versatile.

I think what's lost on JN's part is that it may be OK to have RA hit 4th in a pinch, especially against LH pitching -- but I think it's become too much of a pattern. I think the real issue is that JN does not see a viable clean up hitter on the roster right now, which is a problem in and of itself.

He probably does not want to screw with the success that BP has had, for example, by placing that kind of pressure on him as a cleanup hitter. We all know why Dunn isn't hitting there. (I actually like the idea of trying him at #2) I'd probably prefer Kearns there to RA, but let's not forget that Keans is finally getting his sealegs under him this year, after some disappointing seasons. Kearns has also grounded into a lot of DPs.

In the final analysis, I think JN bats RA 4th, because he views that as his safest alternative. RA is NOT a prototypical cleanup hitter, but he's not a big strikeout victim, he's savvy enough not to buckle to the pressue, and he represents a known commodity.

Yup. We KNOW he's not good against RHP.

I think you're pretty spot on in your analysis though.

[westofyou]

Against RH's Rich Aurilia is the Troy McClure of cleanup hitters, a poor actor, best remembered for such films as "Fly to Right", "Ground to Short" and "Damn that's the end of the inning"

[Razor Shines]

Time for an hour of Seinfeld before the game. Is there a Seinfeld Game/Show thread?

[KronoRed]

Against RH's Rich Aurilia is the Troy McClure of cleanup hitters, a poor actor, best remembered for such films as "Fly to Right", "Ground to Short" and "Damn that's the end of the inning"
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[RedsMan3203]

Especially if the Royals tee off on the Milton


Probably going to be a long one either way.

1) Mitly does good.. Everyone is excited.

2) Milty does bad... Everyone is pissed.

3) Reds Lose... Everyone upset we lost to a bad team.

4) Reds Win... We are closer to 1st.

[Raisor]

I think Hatte should be hitting 2 vs RHPs for now. Dunn has been atrocious in all aspects vs RHPs.


I certainly wouldn't call an OPS of approx 800 vs RHP "atrocious". It's not GREAT but it's certainly not "atrocious".

[Razor Shines]

I certainly wouldn't call an OPS of approx 800 vs RHP "atrocious". It's not GREAT but it's certainly not "atrocious".
You mean it's not extremely evil or cruel?

[fisch11]

I'm hoping for a big night from Kearns, he's been quiet lately. Also rooting for the Tribe's bats to show up again.

[fisch11]

3 umps right now per George. Rushing one in right now to replace an ill ump.

[fisch11]

Tight zone tonight. Milton loses Jesus on a walk.

[Newman4]

Pretty good looking pitch on 3-2. Bad call.

[Newman4]

K's Grudz

[Razor Shines]

I like that pitch.

[fisch11]

So is Chris Welsh with Fox now? Haven't seen the FSN Cincy broadcasts lately, but I did notice Chris on the nationally televised game against Cle. on Sat.

[redhawkfish]

So is Chris Welsh with Fox now? Haven't seen the FSN Cincy broadcasts lately, but I did notice Chris on the nationally televised game against Cle. on Sat.

It was nice to hear him actually get to talk on Saturday!:D

[fisch11]

Never, ever, ever should George or anybody else call that double play "5, 4, yesireeee, 3 double play!"

[Newman4]

They said Chris had a death in the family.

[Newman4]

Dunn K's.....let the debate resume

[Razor Shines]

Oh, got lucky there wouldn't have been out of most parks.

[fisch11]

That's stupid. Milton pumped a fastball because the ump didn't give him strike 3 on the pitch before.

[Newman4]

That's BS. Milton threw a strike on 2-2 and didn't get the call. Next pitch HR.

[Boston Red]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but what an abysmal crowd! You'd think the Reds had a record similar to KC's if you didn't know better.

[Newman4]

Nice play by FeLo for the 2nd out.

[fisch11]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but what an abysmal crowd! You'd think the Reds had a record similar to KC's if you didn't know better.

Attendance would be alot higher if KC brought an attractive team to the ballpark.

[Razor Shines]

Alright they've used up there "gun" and "cannon" references for this game.

[Boston Red]

Attendance would be alot higher if KC brought an attractive team to the ballpark.

The Reds are almost in first place. Why would it matter who they're playing?!? That's crazy.

[fisch11]

The Reds are almost in first place. Why would it matter who they're playing?!? That's crazy.

Keyword "almost". Another factor is that it is Tuesday.

[Boston Red]

It's just a funny town Cincinnati. Acts like it's so hungry for a winner, and then the Reds come home 1.5 out and you could shoot a cannon through the place and not hurt anyone.

[Razor Shines]

I guess we're pretty much done here.

[fisch11]

Please don't make MIKE Wodd look like KERRY Wood. Also seems like Phillips has been stuck on that warning track flyout, hit the weights kid.

[fisch11]

Hatteberg's face is safe thanks to some quick reflexes.

[Newman4]

Mike Wood's stuff resembles Joe Mays IMO.

[RedEye]

Please don't make MIKE Wodd look like KERRY Wood. Also seems like Phillips has been stuck on that warning track flyout, hit the weights kid.

Yeah, I'd hate to see them put Mike on the DL, too. :p:

[Boston Red]

Milton takes out his frustrations on the Reds' anemic offense on the baseball.

[fisch11]

Dunn in the 2 hole? RBI for all the haters.....that's lineup protection there.

[RedEye]

Adam Dunn with... and RBI single? Way to go!

[RedEye]

Junior. Gone. #14. Woo-hoo!

[Boston Red]

Feeling better about things now!

[fisch11]

Dear Mike Wood,
Thank you for grooving a 3-1 fastball to Ken Griffey Jr.

Sincerely,
Reds Fans

[RedEye]

Mike Wood definitely doesn't look like Kerry right now. RA with a double to the corner: man on 2nd, 2 out, 3-1 Reds in the third.

[RedEye]

4-1 on Hatte 2B. Sanders bobbles, he goes to 3rd.

[RedEye]

Kearns infield single. 5-1 Reds.

[Newman4]

Indians/Cards getting ready to start....CC Sabathia vs. Anthony Reyes

[Boston Red]

Nice. This is the way you're SUPPOSED to treat terrible teams!

[RedEye]

GREAT play by FeLo on Sanders, who still has wheels.

[fisch11]

Indians/Cards getting ready to start....CC Sabathia vs. Anthony Reyes

I've got Reds on MLB.tv and the Indians on cable, the table is set for the Reds to be 1/2 game out after tonight.

[fisch11]

Tribe up 2-0 on Belliard dinger.

[RedEye]

Belliard just hit a 2R HR in the 1st, 2-0 CLE in the first.

[saboforthird]

Who is announcing tonight's game? That one guy sounds like one of those rodeo announcers. I don't feel like I'm a baseball game, that's for sure. :)

[fisch11]

At least Milton's allowed dingers were without runners on. 5-2 to the bottom of 5.

[saboforthird]

Pretty sure it's a proven fact that getting on base at a high rate isn't a bad thing. If you don't like guys that get on base at a high rate, then I guess you're a Royals fan.

Highlifeman21, please......stop with the personal attacks. I have no problem with you disagreeing, but you're accomplishing nothing by playing silly "I'm a Reds fan, you're not..." games. No, I am not a Royals fan. No, I did not say that OBP was a "bad thing". Yes, I did imply that it's the only important thing here, after all it seems to be the cool answer around these parts. Again, please put me on ignore if you don't like my comments. Have a good one. :beerme:

[cincyinco]

is that 3 single shots Milton has given up?

[fisch11]

is that 3 single shots Milton has given up?

Yep, 3 solo jobs.

[THNDRacket]

Prediction: Sometime this season, an opposing player is going to get a hit in the ninth inning with two outs and a runner on third to apparently tie the game, but Kearns is going to throw him out at first to preserve the win.

[saboforthird]

That Milton....against a horrible team....at home. Any other variables I left out? :p:

[fisch11]

Just like that, tie ball game. Royals aren't being fooled by Milton tonight.

[saboforthird]

God, I can't wait until Milton is wearing another team's jersey. Sorry, the guy just doesn't belong in Cincinnati.

[fisch11]

In a heartbeat, Milton gone down by a run. Standridge in.

[fisch11]

Battle of the bullpens now. What's the word on KC's?

[fisch11]

Leadoff walk scores. There's a shocker.

[fisch11]

Nice job by Yan. Standridge surrenders a run, 7-5 KC to the bottom of the 7th. Let's get some runs.

[fisch11]

Update from St. Louis. 2-1 Tribe after 4.

[saboforthird]

Here's a chance against Elmer Dessens to get back out in front, with 2 outs.

[redsfan1966]

i think someone touched on this...sounds like jeff piecoro is doing the tv color commentary...where is the creeper?

[saboforthird]

Man, this Mr. Rodeo voice is getting on my nerves. :laugh:

Aurilia singles to load the bases. Hatteberg at the plate.

[saboforthird]

Not unsurprisingly, Hatteberg ends the inning with a weak grounder.

[fisch11]

Kearns needs to get on base to leadoff the 8th, then I'll save my 1,000th post for the big homerun.

[saboforthird]

Coffey gives up a bullet to deep right, 9-7 Royals.

[bottom_feeder]

9-7

[bottom_feeder]

well, we'll let coffey have a couple bad games. He's been so outstanding this year.

[bottom_feeder]

way to go Hatteberg.. 9-8

[saboforthird]

I'm proud of any player that can come back from a checked-swing 2-strike count, and do something big. Hatteberg homers to bring the Reds within 1 run 9-8.

[redsfan4445]

they lose this game they need a players only meeting right after the game.. this stuff has to stop at home!!!

[bottom_feeder]

Of course after Hat's HR, all Marty can do is whine about the failed bunt and complain about Kearns striking out.

[redsfan4445]

dang it.. almost a double

[bottom_feeder]

Well, that stunk :(

[saboforthird]

BP almost saves the Reds for another inning, but falls into the hands of the centerfielder. Reds lose 9-8. What will the Reds do with Milton at season-end, can they do anything?

[RedEye]

This could be the series where it all falls down. If StL beats CLE (currently 2-1 CLE in the 6th) this one will really hurt.

[dabvu2498]

17-20 at home.

[ryanparkersongs]

I agree about the players only meeting. This losing at home and losing to teams like the Royals HAS to stop. The Cardinals are on an unbelievable losing streak and we are not taking advantage as we should be. If it isn't one thing, it seems to be another. Lack of offense/good starting pitching, good offense/bad starting pitching, coupled with a consistently shaky bullpen. Whatever it takes ... something needs to change and this team needs to start turning it around NOW. They are too good to be losing to the Royals at home in a game they NEED to win to gain ground in the division.

[saboforthird]

Well, this 9-8 debacle wasn't exactly an ideal way to convince your fans that they're a part of your success. :D Go get'tem tomorrow.

[KYRedsFan]

Just seems so mental with this team at home.

[saboforthird]

I see that someone negged me, but didn't have the guts to say it to my face. The negging on this site by those who don't like posts that fit their agenda, is getting old.

[M2]

I see that someone negged me, but didn't have the guts to say it to my face. The negging on this site by those who don't like posts that fit their agenda, is getting old.

I negged you and it had my name right on it, can't get much more to your face than that.

BTW, the neg had nothing to do with any agenda. I just thought you made a brain-dead comment complete with a roll eyes emoticon and I thought it was deserving of a neg. Pos for the good, neg for the bad. That's how the system works. BTW, I can guarantee you've got another neg coming in the future from me for whining about this neg on the public forum.

[reds44]

I see that someone negged me, but didn't have the guts to say it to my face. The negging on this site by those who don't like posts that fit their agenda, is getting old.
Check your User CP, you can see who negged you.

So you don't have guts if you don't tell the person that you negged? Ok.....

[TeamBoone]

Well, this loss can be attributed to SP and the BP.

[KronoRed]

Well, this loss can be attributed to SP and the BP.
Exactly, 8 runs should be more then enough to beat the Royals.

[jimbo]

Of course after Hat's HR, all Marty can do is whine about the failed bunt and complain about Kearns striking out.

Kearns had a horrible at-bat in the 9th....looked like he was swinging for fences.

The bunt attempt was just a bad decision in my opinion. I think Marty was right to "whine" about both.