7/3/06: Reds @ Brewers Game Thread (No Edwin)

[reds44]

Griffey, dare I say...Burning down the Shouse.
:laugh:

CE that was terrible.

[Red Leader]

Griffey, dare I say...Burning down the Shouse.


:laugh: :clap: :clap: :clap: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[redsandrails]

I'd say Harang is a great #3 or a not very good #2. Kind of between the two roles. Needless to say, I'd love to try to snag an ace for this staff, then we'd have one of the best staffs in the league.

[flyer85]

Isn't it harder to get any speed on the ball?it generally only creates deception for guys hitting from the side your throwing.

[Tornon]

Weeks dribbles one towards short that Lopez can't quite throw him out on, single

[flyer85]

it's time to get Harang

[flyer85]

game could be over quickly as Harang is laboring

[Matt700wlw]

it's time to get Harang

For whom? :eek:

[Kc61]

it's time to get Harang

Yeah. Should we go to Sullivan or Williamson?

[Tornon]

Hall lines a double off the wall in right, 2nd & 3rd none out

[membengal]

Not Harang's day today in any event. Good lord.

[Reds Fanatic]

The Reds Killer continues almost hit another HR.

[Tornon]

Reds going to the bullpen

Mercker in to pitch

[OnBaseMachine]

Disappointing performance by Harang as he is about to cough up his third lead of the day.

[flyer85]

Narron is truly amazing in his ability to consistently leave pitchers in too long

[reds44]

Get Harang out.

Narron does it again.

[Caveat Emperor]

I got both inherited runners scoring in under 2 batters, anyone want to offer their predictions?

[CTA513]

It looks like the Brewers should be able to take the lead this inning.

:bang:

[membengal]

Perhaps Mercker will channel Norm Charlton circa 1990 and the Brewers won't score here.

Ha.

I crack myself up.

[Matt700wlw]

Mercker to come in, whose strength isn't getting out lefties...

[flyer85]

For whom? :eek:that is not the point.

[Kc61]

Narron is truly amazing in his ability to consistently leave pitchers in too long

He has no bullpen.

[Reds Fanatic]

Narron is truly amazing in his ability to consistently leave pitchers in too long
Narron is the anti-Sparky Anderson when it comes to taking pitchers out.

[reds44]

Mercker?

WHY Narron why?

[flyer85]

Mercker to come in, whose strength isn't getting out lefties...Jenkins is really bad against lefties

[Matt700wlw]

Disappointing performance by Harang as he is about to cough up his third lead of the day.

I can't expect any pitcher to throw a shut out (first lead was 1-0).

[Red Leader]

Jenkins is really bad against lefties

So is Mercker. Should be an even fight.

[flyer85]

He has no bullpen.then the FO should release em until they finds guys that can get people out. Setting Harang up to fail as the last inning made obvious he was done.

[Matt700wlw]

Jenkins is really bad against lefties

So is Mercker....but only 3 of 12 inherited runners have scored.

We'll see what happens :pray:

[CTA513]

Mercker?

WHY Narron why?

Veteran player.

:dunno:


I just hope he can work some magic and not allow any runners to score.

:help:

[Tornon]

Weathers warming up

[Reds Fanatic]

Jenkins this year only hitting .121 vs. lefties.

[flyer85]

So is Mercker. Should be an even fight.I would agree but Narron doen't know how to use Shack(for one batter in this case).

[flyer85]

I would assume they walk Lee if the get Jenkins out

[VR]

A sub 3.5ERA now, around 4.00era when the season ends, it wouldn't take much and Harang is going through a "uptick" right now. The guy is a 3. Literally. Accept that and stop trying to turn him into what he is not.


Would that be his 3.7 era over his last 400+ innings that would give you that indication?
Don't let the stats cloud your view though, things like ERA, K's, K/BB's are merely random. Your gut feel might be a much better indication.
I'd love to see all those #2's ahead of Aaron, let alone #3s.

[Matt700wlw]

Lopez throws high...2 runners score (1 would have anyway)

[Tornon]

Jenkins dribbled one that Mercker dove for & couldn't get.. Lopez got and tried to throw to first but threw it into the dugout. 5-4 Brewers, Jenkins to 2nd

[CTA513]

Well that lead didnt last...

[Tornon]

Jenkins takes third easily on the first pitch to Lee

[reds44]

nice work Felipe.

[gm]

Q: What's a Red's veteran bullpenner's idea of a 1,2,3 inning?

A: 3 at-em balls smoked right into leather

[Reds Fanatic]

Jenkins steals 3rd as Mercker does not even look at him.

[membengal]

Brewers' announcers say that Lopez didn't need to hurry there like he did.

By the way, nice veteran move by Mercker there not to check the runner at 2b allowing him to steal third. Awesome.

[Tornon]

Lee singles up the middle, 6-4 Brewers

[Reds Fanatic]

6-4 as Lee gets a hit.

[Matt700wlw]

So is Mercker....but only 3 of 12 inherited runners have scored.

We'll see what happens :pray:

Nevermind.

[Caveat Emperor]

It's not even worth getting upset about anymore, honestly. This bullpen is so bad that it almost defies understanding.

[CTA513]

Nice job Mercker.
:thumbup:


:laugh:

[flyer85]

funny thing is Narron keeps running the guys out there that have consistently failed in the setup roles.

[Tornon]

Fielder grounds into a 4-6-3 double play, 2 out

[flyer85]

It's not even worth getting upset about anymore, honestly. This bullpen is so bad that it almost defies understanding.why not try something different at this point.

One definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing while expecting a different result.

[Kc61]

Between Mercker, who is throwing batting practice, and Lopez, who fails repeatedly to make the big play, this game has become sickening.

By the way, this is why RA is playing third base. Reds want some measure of defensive competence on the left side of the infield.

I posted awhile back that the 16 games before the all-star break were a real opportunity for this team. They are in the process of blowing it.

[Caveat Emperor]

BTW...for those that hate Bill Hall as much as I do:

2003-2006

By Opponent AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
vs. CIN 120 23 41 12 3 7 28 14 1 23 4 2 .342 .412 .667 1.079
Total 1033 135 276 68 11 31 135 66 3 250 31 14 .267 .311 .444 .755

[Red Leader]

It's not even worth getting upset about anymore, honestly. This bullpen is so bad that it almost defies understanding.


You're right. It's not even worth getting upset about. You know it's going to happen. I feel really bad for Arroyo, Harang and Lizard, though. They've been pitching well and should have more "W's" than what they have because of this crap. Has to be frustrating.

[Tornon]

Koskie bounces to Hatteberg, 6-4 Brewers after 7

[gm]

This bullpen is so bad that it almost defies understanding.

Time for everyone to break out an eephus pitch. Couldn't be worse than the current puce

[TheBigLebowski]

I can't take much more of this team.

[flyer85]

Nice job Mercker.
:thumbup:


:laugh:this one isn't all that much on Mercker(other than the steal), because they would have walked Lee.

[dsmith421]

I wonder how many games we'd be ahead of St. Louis if we had a league-average bullpen.

[reds44]

:clap:

Standing ovation to Narron on costing this team probably the last 3 games.

[flyer85]

it might have turned out different if Harang had not been allowed to pitch to Hall (who kills Harang and had smoked the ball today). Leaving Harang in to pitch to him was setting him up to fail.

[reds44]

I wonder how many games we'd be ahead of St. Louis if we had a league-average bullpen.
This wasn't Mercker's fault. A ball didn't leave the infield against him. He got a nubber, a routine grounders that went through because the infield was in, a double play, and a nubber to first.

Narron left Harang in 2 batters to long, then he brought the infield in.

[OnBaseMachine]

This team is starting to fade off like they always do. Once again the FO waited too long to improve the bullpen.

[flyer85]

:clap:

Standing ovation to Narron on costing this team probably the last 3 games.I guess that's what a contract extension can do, he is not a very good game manager as he is constantly behind the power curve.

[Tornon]

Hatteberg Ks looking, and argues with the umpire as he walks back. 1 out

[reds44]

This team is starting to fade off like they always do. Once again the FO waited too long to improve the bullpen.
I'm sure they are trying to get help. Hard to get good relievers in June.

[VR]

:clap:

Standing ovation to Narron on costing this team probably the last 3 games.

Time for a new :deadhorse

[Reds Fanatic]

I am not sure why they would not pinch hit for Hatteberg there. He does not hit lefties well.

[Tornon]

Brewers going to the bullpen

[IslandRed]

I agree, flyer. I'm having a hard time holding Mercker responsible for all of that.

[OnBaseMachine]

I'm sure they are trying to get help. Hard to get good relievers in June.

They have Brad Salmon, David Shafer, Carlos Guevara, Jon Coutlangus, and Calvin Medlock in the minors who could do no worse than the current bunch.

[Tornon]

Jose Capellan in to pitch

[dsmith421]

This wasn't Mercker's fault. A ball didn't leave the infield against him. He got a nubber, a routine grounders that went through because the infield was in, a double play, and a nubber to first.

Narron left Harang in 2 batters to long, then he brought the infield in.

That wasn't my question, or my point.

[Matt700wlw]

This team is starting to fade off like they always do. Once again the FO waited too long to improve the bullpen.

If leading the wild-card and being in a close race with the division (1 as of writing this) a week before the All-Star break is fading, I wish they'd fade every year.

They need to get some help and keep this thing alive.

This is far from over

[flyer85]

Narron left Harang in 2 batters to longor at least one without a doubt. With the Reds case the manager cannot afford to make mistakes(I'm not talking about outcomes) which Narron does consistently.

[Kc61]

This is just not Narron's fault, not one bit.

We've seen the Belisle/Shackelford act the last few nights. The Hall of Fame is not exactly getting the busts ready.

Frankly, I would have gone with Yan myself. At least he throws hard.

The team has no bullpen. The shortstop never makes the tough play in big spots. That's not Narron's fault.

The team's pitching resurgence in just overrated. They now have about four and a half decent pitchers. There is a long way to go.

[Tornon]

Phillips lines the first pitch to first, 2 out

[CTA513]

It looks like they gave away game #1, will they find a way to give away the next 2 games?

:bang:

[Matt700wlw]

They have Brad Salmon, David Shafer, Carlos Guevara, Jon Coutlangus, and Calvin Medlock in the minors who could do no worse than the current bunch.

I do agree to give them a shot.

[reds44]

good AB

[OnBaseMachine]

If leading the wild-card and being a close race with the division a week before the All-Star break is fading, I wish they'd fade every year.

They need to get some help and keep this thing alive.

They lost two of three at home against a bad team, barely won the other game due to a miracle, and are now losing to a below .500 team. I call that fading.

[Tornon]

Kearns flies to center, the right & center fielders almost run into each other. 6-4 Brewers middle of 8

[flyer85]

This is just not Narron's fault, not one bit.

We've seen the Belisle/Shackelford act the last few nights. much better to use the guys that have failed time and time again over the last month.

My main beef today is allowing Harang to pitch to Hall, really stupid.

[oneupper]

it might have turned out different if Harang had not been allowed to pitch to Hall (who kills Harang and had smoked the ball today). Leaving Harang in to pitch to him was setting him up to fail.

I agree. Harang should have been on a tight rein after getting hit hard the last inning. After the first guy got on (even if it was a dribbler), he should have been out of there..

But Narron doesn't like to "waste" pitchers on a 1/3 of an inning... The logic was a righty there, but he was thinking lefty vs. Jenkins and Fielder all the way.

[CTA513]

I do agree to give them a shot.

They dont meet the age requirement.

[Matt700wlw]

They lost two of three at home against a bad team, barely won the other game due to a miracle, and are now losing to a below .500 team. I call that fading.

And the Cardinals are doing what again, exactly, lately?

Refresh my memory how awesome they've been.

[Tornon]

Standridge in to pitch

[Red Leader]

I agree. Harang should have been on a tight rein after getting hit hard the last inning. After the first guy got on (even if it was a dribbler), he should have been out of there..

But Narron doesn't like to "waste" pitchers on a 1/3 of an inning... The logic was a righty there, but he was thinking lefty vs. Jenkins and Fielder all the way.

Absolutely 100% agree.

[OnBaseMachine]

And the Cardinals are doing what again, exactly, lately.

The Cards will make a move to improve their team...they always do.

[reds44]

Reds are on there way to being 9-15 without Edwin.

We were 38-24 with him.

Keep him in AAA baby!

[KronoRed]

Expecting the Cards to continue to struggle is foolish.

[reds44]

The Cards will make a move to improve their team...they always do.
And so will we.

[Tornon]

Miller Ks swinging, 1 out

[Matt700wlw]

The Cards will make a move to improve their team...they always do.

Ok....and the Reds won't....why?

You're complaining because the Reds have waited to long....the Cards have made what moves up to this point exactly? The Cards have done what to improve their team up to this point?

What major moves have been made up to this point of the season in baseball?

[Tornon]

Gross nailed in the foot with the first pitch

[flyer85]

will Narron PH for both 8 and 9 hitters?

He should.

[Tornon]

Corey Hart pinch hitting

[Matt700wlw]

Corey Hart pinch hitting

No sunglasses....oh wait, it's daytime.

[KronoRed]

And so will we.
Will we?

We have our starting 3rd baseman taking it SLOW in AAA because we don't want to open a roster spot for him with our strong 12 man staff and 3 headed catcher

;)

[OnBaseMachine]

And so will we.

Waiting until July 31st when this team is six games out isn't going to help much. They continue to run these old guys in the bullpen out there every night and refusing to give Salmon and Shafer a chance.

[Tornon]

Hart grounds into the 6-6-3 double play, 6-4 Brewers after 8

[Matt700wlw]

Standridge did well.

Let him pitch more.

Thank you.

[WMR]

Did you see that Jerry? JERRY DID YOU SEE THAT?!

[OnBaseMachine]

Ok....and the Reds won't....why?

You're complaining because the Reds have waited to long....the Cards have made what moves up to this point exactly? The Cards have done what to improve their team up to this point?

What major moves have been made up to this point of the season in baseball?

The Cards called up one of their young pitchers to improve their rotation while the Reds refuse to call up Shafer or Salmon.

[CTA513]

Did you see that Jerry? JERRY DID YOU SEE THAT?!

That easy inning just earned Standridge a week off.

:evil:

[captainmorgan07]

pinch hit for larue please

[oneupper]

will Narron PH for both 8 and 9 hitters?

He should.

Valentin and Q? Valentin and Freel?

Turblows coming up.

Need a baserunner to get to Dunn.

[Tornon]

Derrick Turnbow in to pitch

[Ltlabner]

We have our starting 3rd baseman taking it SLOW in AAA because we don't want to open a roster spot for him with our strong 12 man staff and 3 headed catcher

And there we have conclusive proof that they will make no player moves, will fade away and crumble as a franchise. Thank's for this stunning phroposy...now we can all quit reading this forum and focus on mowing the lawn for the rest of the summer.

[KronoRed]

Did you see that Jerry? JERRY DID YOU SEE THAT?!
He saw some kid takes Weathers hard earned spot :evil:

[flyer85]

Waiting until July 31st when this team is six games out isn't going to help much. They continue to run these old guys in the bullpen out there every night and refusing to give Salmon and Shafer a chance.or even trying some minor league starters in the pen.

The indians have use minor league starters Perez and Carmona as relievers.

[reds44]

Waiting until July 31st when this team is six games out isn't going to help much. They continue to run these old guys in the bullpen out there every night and refusing to give Salmon and Shafer a chance.
Oh but it's ok if the Cardinals do?

[oneupper]

That easy inning just earned Standridge a week off.

:evil:

Standridge has two straight good innings...against bottom of orders!

[KronoRed]

And there we have conclusive proof that they will make no player moves, will fade away and crumble as a franchise. Thank's for this stunning phroposy...now we can all quit reading this forum and focus on mowing the lawn for the rest of the summer.
Yep..that's what I said ;)

[flyer85]

Derrick Turnbow in to pitchwho has been wild of late

[reds44]

Ross and Freel both should PH

[Matt700wlw]

The Cards called up one of their young pitchers to improve their rotation while the Reds refuse to call up Shafer or Salmon.

White gone; Hammond gone.

Standridge up. Shackelford up.

Belisle brought back (hasn't been great since coming back, but hasn't had much opportunity)

They need more, but there's 3 younger guys called up to help the bullpen.

Shack should be fine if used correctly, and Standridge hasn't bad.



I'm not arguing about giving the younger guys a shot...we're on the same page there.

[reds44]

Why is he letting LaRue bat?

[OnBaseMachine]

Oh but it's ok if the Cardinals do?

Listen to what I said, the Cards called up Anthony Reyes to improve their team!

[oneupper]

Why is he letting LaRue bat?

To hope for a walk...LaRue has decent eye?

[OnBaseMachine]

White gone; Hammond gone.

Standridge up. Shackelford up.

Belisle brought back (hasn't been great since coming back, but hasn't had much opportunity)

They need more, but there's 3 younger guys called up to help the bullpen.

Shack should be fine if used correctly, and Standridge has been pretty good.

Weathers, Mercker, Yan at last check: still here.

[Tornon]

3 straight balls to LaRue, Turnbow gets it back to 3-2 before LaRue takes a walk

Valentin pinch hitting

[Ltlabner]

White gone; Hammond gone.

Standridge up. Shackelford up.

Belisle brought back (hasn't been great since coming back, but hasn't had much opportunity)

They need more, but there's 2 younger guys called up to help the bullpen. Shack should be fine if used correctly, and Standridge has been pretty good.


Please Matt700....don't try to muddy the waters with reason. It's much more fun to be emotional.

[Reds Fanatic]

Larue leads off with a walk.

[flyer85]

I would rather seen Freel than QM ... or Valentin. I want a patient hitter up there

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin pinch hitting

[KronoRed]

I was afraid they were going to send Q up

[reds44]

Yes!!!

Valentin?????!!!!!!

WHY NOT ROSS????!!!!

[Matt700wlw]

Weathers, Mercker, Yan at last check: still here.

I don't know if all 3 will go, but I don't think all 3 will survive too much longer.

[dsmith421]

We need a hit out of Nacho Libre here.

[LincolnparkRed]

Why not pinch run with Ross still on the bench?? Freel or Q

[Tornon]

Valentin grounds one to Fielder who steps on the bag, throws to second but LaRue turns and goes back to first. 1 out

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin hit it hard but right at Fielder.

[reds44]

Awesome basrunning by LaRue!

[KronoRed]

Smart baserunning

[flyer85]

Valentin swings at ball 2 and Larue bails him out. Narron is clueless

[oneupper]

Smart baserunning

Hatcher gets credit, too!

[WMR]

Weathers has got to be gone soon. He has been putrid whenever he has pitched. Either DL him or DFA him, b/c Jerry will not stop using him as long as he is in the pen.

[Matt700wlw]

Marty says "We may well see Encarnacion back on this roster before this road trip is over."


Do it today. Please.

Grab a couple pitchers while you're down there...

[KronoRed]

I love walks

[Tornon]

Lopez takes a walk.. after watching Turnbow try to throw a 2-2 breaking ball all fastballs here

[membengal]

Two on, one out with Lopez's walk.

Dunner once again, good luck Adam, we need you again.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn up with the go ahead run.

[Red Leader]

Valentin grounds one to Fielder who steps on the bag, throws to second but LaRue turns and goes back to first. 1 out

I never understood that play. I mean I understand it, but it still gets me everytime. When 1B steps on 1st and the runner going to 2nd turns around and goes back to 1st. I argued in high school that the runner should HAVE to go to 2nd. I kept tagging him and tagging him, and looking at the ump like "you're going to call him out at some point aren't you?". Weird play. :laugh:

[reds44]

Marty says "We may well see Encarnacion back on this roster before this road trip is over."


Do it today. Please.
Do it today after the game.

Let's go Dunn!!

[KronoRed]

Clutch

[Tornon]

Dunn singles by the 2nd baseman.. Lopez to third, 6-5 Brewers

[oneupper]

OF playing so deep, its a single or a HR.

(ok...it was a single).

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn has been clutch lately!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn singles in a run. 6-5. Lets go Junior.

[KronoRed]

That pitch was a ball though..expanding the zone works for once ;)

[membengal]

Dunn is out of the slump, and starting to enter Mr. Clutch territory. Come on Jr.

[reds44]

Dunn IS clutch!

[Tornon]

Freel pinch running for Dunn at first

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel running for Dunn

[KronoRed]

Dunn should be written in the 2 spot in PERMANENT MARKER

[Reds Fanatic]

Does Freel attempt to steal 2nd here with Junior up?

[Tornon]

Gapper to left-center!!! Freel scores easily!! 7-6 Reds

[flyer85]

I don't like pinch running for Dunn. If Freel steals they will walk Jr. what about extras?

[KronoRed]

Clutch X 2

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior doubles in 2 runs. Reds lead 7-6!!!!

[membengal]

Jr!!!!!!!!!!!! Brewers announcers are LESS than pleased!!!!!!!

I love Dunn followed by Jr in the lineup!!!!!!!!!!!

And exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Matt700wlw]

:jump: :jump: :jump:

[Kc61]

When Griffey is hitting to left center, as he is today, he is terrific.

Kudos to Dunn, whose hitting has really improved the last couple of weeks.

[VR]

I never understood that play. I mean I understand it, but it still gets me everytime. When 1B steps on 1st and the runner going to 2nd turns around and goes back to 1st. I argued in high school that the runner should HAVE to go to 2nd. I kept tagging him and tagging him, and looking at the ump like "you're going to call him out at some point aren't you?". Weird play. :laugh:


Classic.....that's the EXACT look that Prince Fielder had as he looked at the ump :laugh:

[reds44]

wooooooooooo!!!!!!!

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!!!!!

[TheBigLebowski]

:beerme: :beerme:

[KronoRed]

You know who's to blame for the BP not being fixed? the Offense for coming back and taking the lead late in games so much :evil:

[Red Leader]

Derrick Turnbow, All-Star.

[15fan]

1 out and Junior on 2nd.

Gotta get him in to give the bullpen some margin for error...

[reds44]

Narron brings in Freel and he scores on a double.

GOOD MOVE JERRY!!!!

[flyer85]

3 or 4 more and I will feel comfortable ... and in the one situation it could, the PR pays off.

[KronoRed]

Derrick Turnbow, All-Star.
What a joke :laugh:

[TheBigLebowski]

Let's hope the Coffey's hot today.

[VR]

I don't like pinch running for Dunn. If Freel steals they will walk Jr. what about extras?

remember Narron is a moron. Dunn scores standing up on that ;)

[Matt700wlw]

For viewing pleasure tonight...the Cards vs Braves game is on ESPN tonight.

[oneupper]

Top of the lineup for the Brewers in the 9th.

[CTA513]

Very good move by Narron to have Freel run for Dunn.
I rip him for the other stuff, but that was a good move.

:thumbup:

[flyer85]

Turnbow on the all star team is joke as well.

[Tornon]

Aurilia pops to second, 2 out

[membengal]

Very good move by Narron to have Freel run for Dunn.
I rip him for the other stuff, but that was a good move.

:thumbup:

+1. That was a solid decision regardless.

[Reds Fanatic]

Aurilia pops out and fails to move the runner. What a joke of a cleanup hitter.

[KronoRed]

Tom Hume with the nice bling

[reds44]

For the love of God get Edwin up here.

[reds44]

Very good move by Narron to have Freel run for Dunn.
I rip him for the other stuff, but that was a good move.

:thumbup:
Yep I agree 100% with you. He made the right move there.

[Gallen5862]

Is Junior still at second?

[Tornon]

Hatteberg walks

[Newport Red]

Derrick Turnbow, All-Star.


Look for the AL to have home field advantage this year.

[Tornon]

Brewers going to the bullpen

[Matt700wlw]

Marty said Yan may pitch the bottom...he wasn't sure if Todd was warming.

I would have to think Marty just missed Todd...

[KronoRed]

For the love of God get Edwin up here.
He won't be batted cleanup though.

[Reds Fanatic]

Is Junior still at second?Yes 1st and 2nd now.

[flyer85]

Aurilia pops out and fails to move the runner. What a joke of a cleanup hitter.Turnbow is not easy to hit, he just has little clue where it is going

[oneupper]

Is Junior still at second?


Yes, although they said he had third stolen on the pitch that Aurilia Popped up.

[KronoRed]

Fielder looks like he wanted to punch Turnbow

[CTA513]

Turnbow made the all-star team didnt he?

:laugh:

[membengal]

Hopefully Yan was just in case the Reds tied. With the Reds now up, I would certainly expect that Narron is going to Coffey.

[Tornon]

Matt Wise in to pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

Marty said Yan may pitch the bottom...he wasn't sure if Todd was warming.

I would have to think Marty just missed Todd...
Lets hope he just missed him. Unless Narron is trying to give this game up.

[oneupper]

Turnbow is not easy to hit, he just has little clue where it is going

Reminds me of Luke Hudson...

[dsmith421]

For the love of God get Edwin up here.

I agree with you, but saying it 1000 times is unnecessary.

[KronoRed]

If Yan comes in there should be a riot

[flyer85]

Marty said Yan may pitch the bottom...he wasn't sure if Todd was warming.

I would have to think Marty just missed Todd...seeing as Coffey has not pitched since Thursday I am sure he will be pitching. He has to go through the tough part of the order. Only a HR would make me feel comfortable. Since Coffey has gotten less work he has been less effective, although entirely possible it is regressing to the mean.

[reds44]

If Yan comes in there should be a riot
Why would he come in?

[Reds Fanatic]

If Yan comes in there should be a riot
If Yan comes in instead of Coffey get ready to go the backup site. The server may crash.

[Matt700wlw]

Marty said Yan may pitch the bottom...he wasn't sure if Todd was warming.

I would have to think Marty just missed Todd...


Nevermind...Todd's been warming. Sorry :)

[KronoRed]

Why would he come in?
Cause we want to lose? :devil:

[Aronchis]

Fielder is gonna kill Turnbow after this game...........

[oneupper]

Brewers have bullpen issues of their own...

[flyer85]

Reminds me of Luke Hudson...+ 5 mph

[Tornon]

Wise takes a page out of Turnbow's book and walks Phillips on 4 pitches

[reds44]

Fielder is gonna kill Turnbow after this game...........
Turnbow should kill Prince. It would have been 2 outs, 0 on if Prince wasn't a moron.

[flyer85]

Brewers have bullpen issues of their own...without a doubt.

[TheBurn]

Loaded...

[flyer85]

from a flamethrower to a junkballer

[KronoRed]

Nice hat on that dude

[reds44]

Coffey is ready.

Come on AK.

[flyer85]

Turnbow should kill Prince. It would have been 2 outs, 0 on if Prince wasn't a moron.all he had to do was run at Larue

[Aronchis]

Its seems every team has bullpen issues this year, the Reds are just the worst lol:eek:

[Tornon]

Kearns skies one to right, 7-6 Reds middle of 9

[KronoRed]

Non Clutch

[Newport Red]

Fielder is gonna kill Turnbow after this game...........

There are a few Reds relievers he can warm up on.

[membengal]

Given the concerns many had about Phillips' ability to take a walk, the last six weeks of him have been a real eye-opener in terms of his eye. It appears he will take enough walks to really make him a rock solid hitter.

[Tornon]

Coffey in to pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

It's Coffey Time.

[Reds Fanatic]

Top of the order Weeks, Hall, Jenkins due up. Can't feel good about Hall hitting here.

[flyer85]

wonder if he'll put Castro in at SS?

[KronoRed]

Bean Hall ;)

[Tornon]

Ryan Freel now in left
Aurilia moves to first
Castro in to play third

[KronoRed]

wonder if he'll put Castro in at SS?
Nope..3rd

[reds44]

Come on Java.

[membengal]

Ryan Freel now in left
Aurilia moves to first
Castro in to play third

Those are all nice moves, and a nice use of Castro.

[Tornon]

Weeks lines a single in front of Griffey

[KronoRed]

Single to CF

[OnBaseMachine]

Fantastic.

Leadoff hit.

[Matt700wlw]

...leadoff man on.

:pray:

[membengal]

Ugh. It begins anew. First runner on. I wonder what the bullpen would look like if they didn't let the first runner on, seemingly every chance they get.

[Joseph]

I wish we'd have gotten a couple insurance runs.

[Reds Fanatic]

The Reds Killer up already 3 for 4 today.

[Red Leader]

C'mon 6-4-3, come on....

[flyer85]

Hmm ... Hall up

[KronoRed]

Lord that was close

[membengal]

I hate Bill Hall.

[Tornon]

Hall lines one off the top of the wall.. nice play by Kearns to keep Hall at first. 1st & 3rd none out

[Joseph]

Not good, not good not good.

[OnBaseMachine]

Unbelievable. Even Coffey stinks now.

[Matt700wlw]

This is not good. Coffey has been inconsistant since becoming a closer.

[Reds Fanatic]

I hate Hall. Single off the wall his 4th hit of the day. 1 homer and twice he has just missed homers.

[KronoRed]

Kearns has a gun

[Newport Red]

Ugh. It begins anew. First runner on. I wonder what the bullpen would look like if they didn't let the first runner on, seemingly every chance they get.

We need to do a Danny Graves exorcism on the mound.