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Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 07:24 PM
Phillips gets the night off tonight (at least not starting)

reds44
07-05-2006, 07:26 PM
It better be Freel starting, and not Castro.

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 07:27 PM
It better be Freel starting, and not Castro.

Freel is starting. Not sure about Castro (I'm guessing not).

GAC
07-05-2006, 07:27 PM
Lets start at drawing on how many pages start out this thread complaining about the lineup.

I'll go with five. ;)

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 07:28 PM
Unless Dunn is out to let Castro play :evil:

reds44
07-05-2006, 07:28 PM
Lets start at drawing on how many pages start out this thread complaining about the lineup.

I'll go with five. ;)
Depends where Rich and Dunn are batting.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 07:32 PM
Im gonna take a wild guess & say

Freel
Lopez
Griffey
Aurilia
Dunn
Hatteberg
Kearns
LaRue (maybe Valentin?)
Ramirez

GAC
07-05-2006, 07:33 PM
Carlos Villanueva last faced us on 6/14 in Cincy. He went 6 innings, gave up 0 ERs, 4 hits.

The game went into extra innings (11th), and Dunn won it with a 3 run homer off of Kolb.

3-0 final

Tornon
07-05-2006, 07:47 PM
Wow, actual lineup is

Freel
Lopez
Griffey
Dunn
Aurilia (I didn't know Rich could hit here??!!)
Hatteberg
Kearns
LaRue
Ramirez

BREWERS
Weeks
Hall
Jenkins
Lee
Fielder
Koskie
Miller
Gross
Villanueva

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 07:48 PM
Rich down 1 spot..it's a start :D

Tornon
07-05-2006, 07:49 PM
Only, Dunn is now protected by Aurilia, then Hatteberg

RedsManRick
07-05-2006, 07:50 PM
Aurilia: .263/.313/.478
Kearns: .274/.352/.502

EARTH TO NARRON! (my bet is 4 pages btw)

GAC
07-05-2006, 07:50 PM
What!!!!

Dunn out of the #2 spot!

:evil:

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 07:51 PM
Put Kearns after Dunn....before Hatte and Aurilia.

That is all. :D

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 07:52 PM
I'd like to see

Freel
Lopez
Dunn
JR
Kearns
The Hat
Rich
Ross

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 07:53 PM
LaRue playing.....I wonder if the Reds are hoping he gets hot so they can trade him...

reds44
07-05-2006, 07:53 PM
RA isn't batting 4th????

Yipee!

Now he only needs to fall 2 more spots.

kheidg-
07-05-2006, 07:55 PM
Good to see LaRue get the start. That would be my lineup if you swap Aurilia and Kearns.

reds44
07-05-2006, 07:57 PM
Javy isn't catching Elizardo regularly anymore. He has only caught one of his last 3 starts. Time to DFA him and get Edwin up here.

pedro
07-05-2006, 08:00 PM
Javy isn't catching Elizardo regularly anymore. He has only caught one of his last 3 starts. Time to DFA him and get Edwin up here.


I wouldn't DFA Valentin, he has some marginal value, even if it's just as the LH PH.

Now QM on the other hand......

cumberlandreds
07-05-2006, 08:02 PM
Why isn't Phillips starting? He's hitting great,IMO. Even when he makes an out it's a hard out. Plus the ASG is just four days away. I guess we gotta find a way to keep Rich in the lineup everyday. He's such a stud!;)

captainmorgan07
07-05-2006, 08:03 PM
I wouldn't DFA Valentin, he has some marginal value, even if it's just as the LH PH.

Now QM on the other hand......
q has been successful lately pinch hitting that's not saying i want him on the roster but im just stating the facts

cumberlandreds
07-05-2006, 08:04 PM
Javy isn't catching Elizardo regularly anymore. He has only caught one of his last 3 starts. Time to DFA him and get Edwin up here.

DFA Q and get EE up here. What is this day 30 of EE being held hostage in Louisville? Ted Koppel where are you?

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 08:05 PM
Need Q to be a backup OF ;)

reds44
07-05-2006, 08:06 PM
I'd rather have Q as a pinch hitter then Javy. Q gives you quality AB's, Javy does not.

pedro
07-05-2006, 08:07 PM
q has been successful lately pinch hitting that's not saying i want him on the roster but im just stating the facts

He has been little better than JV as a PH but JV has a lot more overall value and could have some trade value as well.

cumberlandreds
07-05-2006, 08:07 PM
Need Q to be a backup OF ;)

I would rather Denorfia be the backup outfielder. He's just as scrappy as the next guy.;)

pedro
07-05-2006, 08:09 PM
I'd rather have Q as a pinch hitter then Javy. Q gives you quality AB's, Javy does not.

Personally, I'm not enamored of either of them in that role. It's just that JV has more value than QM so I wouldn't advocate just cutting JV.

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 08:09 PM
Lets start at drawing on how many pages start out this thread complaining about the lineup.

I'll go with five.
__________________

Let's see....have to do the "whine and moan" calculation here. No Castro in line up...that will shorten it a bit. RA is in the line up...prob good for 2 pages. Dunn out of 2 spot...prob another page. Dunner hitting behind JR....another page. Phillips with the night off....about 1/2 page of complaints.

My guess is 6.78 pages of complaints before game time! hahahaha

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 08:11 PM
Check your stats :evil:

CTA513
07-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Let's see....have to do the "whine and moan" calculation here. No Castro in line up...that will shorten it a bit. RA is in the line up...prob good for 2 pages. Dunn out of 2 spot...prob another page. Dunner hitting behind JR....another page. Phillips with the night off....about 1/2 page of complaints.

My guess is 3.78 pages of complaints before game time! hahahaha

Add in the 1 to 2 pages of people complaining about people complaining.

:beerme:

GAC
07-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Game doesn't start for about another hour. :evil:

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Add in the 1 to 2 pages of people complaining about people complaining.

Maybe I'll start a few "Dunn sucks and strikes out too much" threads just to liven things up :pimp:

pedro
07-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Add in the 1 to 2 pages of people complaining about people complaining.

:beerme:

plus at least a half page for those who wish to complain about the people complaining about complaining.

CTA513
07-05-2006, 08:25 PM
plus at least a half page for those who wish to complain about the people complaining about complaining.

Another page for people who want to complain about people complaining about the people complaining but dont want to complain.

:p:

pedro
07-05-2006, 08:27 PM
I can't believe................... it's not butter.

RFS62
07-05-2006, 08:33 PM
The Cast (in order of appearance.)
M= Man looking for an argument
R= Receptionist
Q= Abuser
A= Arguer (John Cleese)
C= Complainer (Eric Idle)
H= Head Hitter


M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.
R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
M: Well, what is the cost?
R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.
Pause
R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.
Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
M: Thank you.

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't
A: I did!
M: You didn't!
A: I'm telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn't.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!

A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That's it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: It wasn't.
Pause
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn't.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn't.
M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn't pay.
M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven't.
M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I've had enough of this.
A: No you haven't.
M: Oh Shut up.

(Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.
C: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.
M: No, I want to complain about...
C: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
M: Oh!
C: Oh my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office.


(Slams door. walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!
H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!!!
H: Good, Good! That's it.
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: What?
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: Stop hitting you?
M: Yes!
H: Why did you come in here then?
M: I wanted to complain.
H: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.
M: What a stupid concept.

Puffy
07-05-2006, 08:33 PM
Javy isn't catching Elizardo regularly anymore. He has only caught one of his last 3 starts. Time to DFA him and get Edwin up here.

Over his last three starts Ramirez is 1-2 with an ERA of 6+.

I woulda left Valentin as his catcher.

reds44
07-05-2006, 08:35 PM
Over his last three starts Ramirez is 1-2 with an ERA of 6+.

I woulda left Valentin as his catcher.
That is impossible considering his last game Dunn hit a walkoff Grand Slam.

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 08:36 PM
I'd rather have Q as a pinch hitter then Javy. Q gives you quality AB's, Javy does not.

Love for Q.


It's finally happened. Monkeys flew out of my butt.

Puffy
07-05-2006, 08:36 PM
That is impossible considering his last game Dunn hit a walkoff Grand Slam.

How - the Reds are 1-2 in his last three starts and his era is 6+. How is that impossible?

reds44
07-05-2006, 08:38 PM
How - the Reds are 1-2 in his last three starts and his era is 6+. How is that impossible?
You said Ramirez was 1-2 in his last 3 starts.

He had an ND last start.

Puffy
07-05-2006, 08:40 PM
You said Ramirez was 1-2 in his last 3 starts.

He had an ND last start.

Geez dude I thought it was obvious - you stated that Valentin has only caught one of Elizardo's last three starts - I quoted YOU, then wrote what I wrote.

Sorry I wasn't clearer - lighten up.

reds44
07-05-2006, 08:41 PM
Geez dude I thought it was obvious - you stated that Valentin has only caught one of Elizardo's last three starts - I quoted YOU, then wrote what I wrote.

Sorry I wasn't clearer - lighten up.
Nevermind.

I wasn't trying to be uptight, I guess I was being too picky.

I apologize, sorry.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 08:43 PM
Maybe I'll start a few "Dunn sucks and strikes out too much" threads just to liven things up :pimp:
Been a few days without one ;)

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 08:43 PM
Love for Q.


It's finally happened. Monkeys flew out of my butt.
Did it hurt?

Puffy
07-05-2006, 08:45 PM
Nevermind.

I wasn't trying to be uptight, I guess I was being too picky.

I apologize, sorry.

Its cool - I was wrong anyway. I miss read the USA Today. The ERA is right, but the record is wrong.

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 08:52 PM
Been a few days without one

Thank the lord!

membengal
07-05-2006, 08:53 PM
Let's see....have to do the "whine and moan" calculation here. No Castro in line up...that will shorten it a bit. RA is in the line up...prob good for 2 pages. Dunn out of 2 spot...prob another page. Dunner hitting behind JR....another page. Phillips with the night off....about 1/2 page of complaints.

My guess is 6.78 pages of complaints before game time! hahahaha

My aren't you passive aggressive?

Note to self, run thoughts through ltl to make sure they fit his idea of what should be talked about and when.

GAC
07-05-2006, 08:54 PM
Been a few days without one ;)

I just got one the other day

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 08:58 PM
Note to self, run thoughts through ltl to make sure they fit his idea of what should be talked about and when.

No need....I'm not the arbiter of what is or isn't discussed here. But I do have the right to comment on other people ideas, just as you do.

membengal
07-05-2006, 08:59 PM
Yes indeed, it sure is crazy for folks to have comments on line-ups. What insanity to expect that on a message board about Reds baseball.

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Yes indeed, it sure is crazy for folks to have comments on line-ups. What insanity to expect that on a message board about Reds baseball.

No one says people shouldn't comment..... it's beating it to death for 4-5 pages every night that gets annoying. ;)

membengal
07-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Right. Because there is a limit to the observations...set by...who exactly?

Is it three observations, and all that needs to have been said has been said? And who gets to make the observations, one of the gang of ten? Perhaps some groundrules would be helpful here.

KittyDuran
07-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Has the game started yet? :evil:

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Chat is open :beerme:

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:03 PM
Has the game started yet? :evil:

nada

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:04 PM
No one says people shouldn't comment..... it's beating it to death for 4-5 pages every night that gets annoying. ;)

Isn't that what the neg function is for? Not to litter up the game thread?

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:04 PM
Are you guys arguing about arguing?

:laugh:

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:04 PM
Are you guys arguing about arguing?

:laugh:

Hypocrites. :D

membengal
07-05-2006, 09:05 PM
Nope, just figuring out when ltl and gac think it's ok for me or anyone else to post an observation.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:06 PM
Nope, just figuring out when ltl and gac think it's ok for me or anyone else to post an observation.
So your arguing about others arguing that we shouldn't argue about the lineup every day.

Got it.
:evil:

Go Reds!

membengal
07-05-2006, 09:06 PM
Just do what you do reds44, it's all good.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Cards down 5-0 already.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Freel takes a ball and we are underway!

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Marty's bent out of shape already :laugh:

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Hypocrites. :D
Wanna make something of it :mooner:





:D

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Freel grounds slowly to short, 1 out

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:08 PM
Marty's bent out of shape already :laugh:
What did Adam do?

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:08 PM
Cards down 5-0 already.

Honestly who cares?

The team to watch is throwing pitches at the Reds right now.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Honestly who cares?

The team to watch is throwing pitches at the Reds right now.
I do. I am sure others do also.

Actually you are probably one of the (if not the only) few people who don't care.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Lopez grounds a single up the middle

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:10 PM
Felipe has been playing better as of late.

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:10 PM
Brewers "D" is last in the NL.....

so we got that going for us. ;)

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:10 PM
I do. I am sure others do also.

Actually you are probably one of the (if not the only) few people who don't care.

The Cards are sinking like a bloody stone.

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Isn't that what the neg function is for? Not to litter up the game thread?

I think it's littering up the game thread to spend 4-5 pages being redundant and beating a subject matter to death when the point has already been made over and over again.

But have at it. :lol:

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:12 PM
I don't care about the Cards either

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Honestly who cares?

The team to watch is throwing pitches at the Reds right now.

Then again, it's fun to scoreboard watch while we can. This time 2-3 weeks from now, I'm not sure how much it's going to matter.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:13 PM
Griffey Ks swinging at a high fastball, 2 out

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:13 PM
Swung at ball 3.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:14 PM
Make them throw strikes

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:14 PM
Then again, it's fun to scoreboard watch while we can. This time 2-3 weeks from now, I'm not sure how much it's going to matter.

Look. I'm not saying, "Don't scoreboard watch." I'm saying, "The Cards aren't the team to fear anymore."

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:14 PM
Dunn Ks looking on 3 pitches, no score middle of 1

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:16 PM
Look. I'm not saying, "Don't scoreboard watch." I'm saying, "The Cards aren't the team to fear anymore."

Until somebody de-throwns them, they're the team to beat.

If the Reds had a bullpen, they'd be the team to beat.

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 09:16 PM
Look. I'm not saying, "Don't scoreboard watch." I'm saying, "The Cards aren't the team to fear anymore."

I'm saying "The Reds aren't the team to be fearing" -- you say "potato," I say "they suck." ;)

Gallen5862
07-05-2006, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the pbp Tornon.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:18 PM
Weeks lines a leadoff single to left

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:18 PM
Liz,

Avoid 1st inning implosion.

Thanks. All best,

Beer.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:20 PM
Hall pops to Kearns, 1 out

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 09:20 PM
Bill Hall -- never trust a man with a name thats half "L"s

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:21 PM
LaRue guns down Weeks trying to steal, 2 out

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:22 PM
Keep raising that trade value, Jason.

Thanks.


:)

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:22 PM
He was out










by alot

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:23 PM
Jenkins lines a 3-2 pitch up the middle for a single

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:23 PM
Quad L

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:24 PM
Geoff Jenkins sucks. But don't tell Reds' pitchers.

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 09:24 PM
In honor of that caught stealing by LaRue, I present this random handlebar mustache:

http://www.drewweing.com/mustache/handlebar.jpg

Keep on' rockin', Jason.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:25 PM
Lee lines an 0-2 pitch to Kearns, no score after 1.

(Lizard got hit pretty hard that inning)

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:26 PM
Lee lines an 0-2 pitch to Kearns, no score after 1.

(Lizard got hit pretty hard that inning)

Yep.

Larue saved his bacon that inning.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Aurilia grounds to second, Weeks almost played it into an error. 1 out

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:30 PM
Hatteberg flies to right just in front of the wall, 2 out

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:31 PM
Fast movin game

redsrule2500
07-05-2006, 09:32 PM
eh, just missed it.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Kearns grounds to short, no score middle of 2

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:35 PM
Fielder flies the first pitch to Dunn, 1 out

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Marc says there's a good chance that Edwin will be back tomorrow.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Koskie Ks looking at a 3-2 pitch & doesn't like the call. 2 out

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:38 PM
Marc says there's a good chance that Edwin will be back tomorrow.
PLEASE let the man be speaking the truth!!!!!!!!!

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:38 PM
Miller grounds to Freel, no score after 2.

Much better inning for Lizard

MrCinatit
07-05-2006, 09:38 PM
Marc says there's a good chance that Edwin will be back tomorrow.

That is excellent news.
Much better than the whole "We're sitting around and seeing what plays out" attitude which seems prevelant.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:39 PM
He give any ideas on who goes?

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
PLEASE let the man be speaking the truth!!!!!!!!!

He's seldom wrong. But never say never.

membengal
07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
It better be a whopper of a move if it is to justify in any manner the prolonged time they left him in AAA...

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:41 PM
LaRue lines the first pitch to left for a single

VR
07-05-2006, 09:41 PM
Marc says there's a good chance that Edwin will be back tomorrow.

back with the big club......or back in AA? Certainly that's the next logical place that the evil duo of Krisky/Narron want send him to ruin his career. ;)

Gallen5862
07-05-2006, 09:41 PM
Fox News is saying that the AP is reporting that North Korea has 3 or 4 missles on stands and ready to Launch.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:41 PM
LaRue gets a hit. Good to see.

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
He give any ideas on who goes?

He wasn't sure. He said McCracken is kind of the odd man out, but he's also an outfielder, which may keep him here.

We shall see what we shall see.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Ramirez gets a successful sac bunt down, 1 out

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Fox News is saying that the AP is reporting that North Korea has 3 or 4 missles on stands and ready to Launch.

This isn't good.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Nice work EZ.

membengal
07-05-2006, 09:42 PM
back with the big club......or back in AA? Certainly that's the next logical place that the evil duo of Krisky/Narron want send him to ruin his career. ;)

Right. Because he would have been NO help to this club 10 days or even 6 days ago. Clearly the Reds have been better served NOT having him here. Right.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Fox News is saying that the AP is reporting that North Korea has 3 or 4 missles on stands and ready to Launch.
They want the Reds pen fixed or else

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Freel bounces back to the pitcher, 2 out

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:45 PM
Lopez hit what looked like a lazy fly ball off the bat, but it carried to the right-center wall. The CF made a nice leaping catch to get it, no score middle of 3

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:46 PM
This isn't good.

heard they were aimed at our bullpen. ;)

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:47 PM
heard they were aimed at our bullpen. ;)
Why?

Our bullpen doesn't need a missle to blow up.

RedsMan3203
07-05-2006, 09:48 PM
heard they were aimed at our bullpen. ;)


I heard they were going after Bonds and the Yankees.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:48 PM
8-1 Atlanta in the 4th.

If you care...

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:49 PM
Gross lines a single to right

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:49 PM
They are hitting some rockets off the Lizard tonight

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:49 PM
Villanueva with a successful sac bunt, 1 out

TheBigLebowski
07-05-2006, 09:49 PM
8-1 Atlanta in the 4th.

If you care...

I do, and that's an excellent score.

RedLegSuperStar
07-05-2006, 09:50 PM
8-1 Braves over St Louis

Sorry reds44.. beat me to it!

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 09:50 PM
heard they were aimed at our bullpen. ;)

Why would you blow up something that has already blown up ?

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Liz has been getting the ball up like mad for the past month.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Weeks lines a triple down the LF line, 1-0 Brewers

TheBigLebowski
07-05-2006, 09:51 PM
I feel this game is headed in much the same direction as last night's.

They'e hitting our guy hard early, and he's been bailed out in the first couple of innings, then everything exploded.

Meanwhile, their guy pretty much kept us at bay.

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:51 PM
What the heck was Dunn doing?

A triple that bounced in front of the plate??

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:53 PM
Hall lines a double to center, 2-0 Brewers

reds44
07-05-2006, 09:53 PM
man

Gallen5862
07-05-2006, 09:53 PM
CNN also reporting about 3 or 4 Missles.

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:53 PM
I loathe Bill Hall

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:54 PM
Jenkins grounds the first pitch to Hatteberg, 2 out

Jpup
07-05-2006, 09:54 PM
EZ is in trouble. :confused:

Gallen5862
07-05-2006, 09:54 PM
This is not a good start to the game.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:54 PM
Lee singles the first pitch into left, 3-0 Brewers

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 09:55 PM
The real Lizard may be coming back.

GAC
07-05-2006, 09:56 PM
The Lizard has shed his skin

Jpup
07-05-2006, 09:57 PM
M2 is starting to looking very smart in picking the beer makers to do well this season.

Marc D
07-05-2006, 09:57 PM
What success we've had this season has been due to the 3 starters pitching well above their career norms. When they come back down to earth this ship is sunk.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 09:58 PM
Fielder grounds to Lopez, 3-0 Brewers after 3

Edskin
07-05-2006, 09:58 PM
Here is the main reason we should be selling rather than buying....................................

The rotation stinks. It's not just the pen.

2 of our starters are fine, the rest are awful. We have a grand total of TWO pitchers on this team who can be considered even "above average."

GAC
07-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Here is the main reason we should be selling rather than buying....................................

The rotation stinks. It's not just the pen.

2 of our starters are fine, the rest are awful. We have a grand total of TWO pitchers on this team who can be considered even "above average."

What have we got to sell?

Who buys Yugos anymore?

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:01 PM
Griffey lines a double to right

Edskin
07-05-2006, 10:01 PM
GAC-- We've got lots to sell.....

Kearns
Lopez
Freel
Junior

And if someone really dangles a pitching gem......

Dunn

Ltlabner
07-05-2006, 10:02 PM
What about EE....we all know he's going to be just sitting around once he comes back anyway..... ;)

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:03 PM
Dunn Ks swinging, 1 out

RedsMan3203
07-05-2006, 10:04 PM
Dunn really needs to pull his pant legs up and show the umps where his knees are...

Whear those high bright red socks..... That wasn't a great call.

CTA513
07-05-2006, 10:04 PM
Dunn really needs to pull his pant legs up and show the umps where his knees are...

Whear those high bright red socks..... That wasn't a great call.

If the umps can see his knees then they must be blind.


:help:

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:05 PM
Aurilia takes a walk

RedsMan3203
07-05-2006, 10:06 PM
http://www.hankhayes.com/images/Fred_Flintstone.gif


So, what current Reds player looks like Fred?

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:07 PM
clutch walk.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:09 PM
On the 7th pitch of the atbat, Hatteberg lines a single to right. Griffey easily scores. 3-1 Brewers

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:10 PM
On the 7th pitch of the atbat, Hatteberg lines a single to right. Griffey easily scores. 3-1 Brewers

On-base machine.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Kearns tops one off the plate, Brewers turn a 1-4-3 double play. 3-1 Brewers middle of 4

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 10:11 PM
On-base machine.
Solid poster

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:11 PM
Things that go doink.

And the Cardinals are getting killed by the last place Braves.

What a wierd year.

CTA513
07-05-2006, 10:12 PM
Anyone know how many double plays Casey hit into last year?

Puffy
07-05-2006, 10:13 PM
I am of the opinion that Kearns is fools gold - sell him while his numbers appear high. Get a couple of good arms, plug Deno in the outfield and hope for the best out of the arms.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:13 PM
Koskie's bat shatters as he dribbles one back to Ramirez. 1 out

OnBaseMachine
07-05-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm glad that Dunn (.341/.386/.732-1.118 OPS in 2nd spot) isn't batting 2nd.;)

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:13 PM
http://www.hankhayes.com/images/Fred_Flintstone.gif


So, what current Reds player looks like Fred?


Jerry Narron.

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:14 PM
I'm glad that Dunn (.341/.386/.732-1.118 OPS in 2nd spot) isn't batting 2nd.;)

Yeah, let's break something that doesn't need fixed.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 10:15 PM
Anyone know how many double plays Casey hit into last year?
27

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:15 PM
I am of the opinion that Kearns is fools gold - sell him while his numbers appear high. Get a couple of good arms, plug Deno in the outfield and hope for the best out of the arms.

I agree -- Kearns is a mirage that will earn more money than he's worth next year. Move him for talent and use the money he would've commanded to upgrade the bullpen in the offseason. Even if Denorfia isn't the answer.

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:15 PM
I am of the opinion that Kearns is fools gold - sell him while his numbers appear high. Get a couple of good arms, plug Deno in the outfield and hope for the best out of the arms.

IMO, I think Deno can produce the same as Kearns without the potential for power numbers.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:15 PM
Miller lines a double down the LF line

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:16 PM
Is it me or has Damien Miller lost weight???

Wonder if he was hanging out with Grimsley in AZ??

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:16 PM
Edwin just went yard for the Bats!!

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:17 PM
Is it me or has Damien Miller lost weight???

Wonder if he was hanging out with Grimsley in AZ??

I don't think he's ever been much larger.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:17 PM
Gross gets hit by a 1-2 pitch

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:18 PM
Villanueva refuses to bunt and flies the first pitch to Dunn, 1 out

Puffy
07-05-2006, 10:18 PM
Is it me or has Damien Miller lost weight???

Wonder if he was hanging out with Grimsley in AZ??

I heard he asked Brandon Webb if he looked fat in that uniform and all us guys know there is no correct answer to that question.

Patrick Bateman
07-05-2006, 10:19 PM
I'm glad that Dunn (.341/.386/.732-1.118 OPS in 2nd spot) isn't batting 2nd.;)

Small sample size.

His 3 year splits of him hitting 2nd aren't very kind.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:20 PM
Weeks takes a walk

Heath
07-05-2006, 10:20 PM
Frickin Bill Hall

OnBaseMachine
07-05-2006, 10:21 PM
Small sample size.

His 3 year splits of him hitting 2nd aren't very kind.

He's doing much better this year even if it's a small sample size. Narron is a fool for changing what was working.

Puffy
07-05-2006, 10:21 PM
Walking Weeks to bring up Hall.

This has the potential to end badly.

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Speaking of mirages and fools gold -- all those good starts by Elizardo Ramirez seem like they were a long time ago.

Reverting back to his minor league form -- corner-painter with no true "out" pitch.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Hall pops the first pitch to Hatteberg, 3-1 Brewers after 4

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Phew

MWM
07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
8 baserunners in 4 innings and only 3 runs. He's lucky tonight.

CTA513
07-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Cardinals getting pounded 13-3 and the Braves have 2 men on with no outs in the 5th.

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Cardinals getting pounded 13-3 and the Braves have 2 men on with no outs in the 5th.

pour it on.:beerme:

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Hall pops the first pitch to Hatteberg, 3-1 Brewers after 4

The Reds have been setting up that pitch all career for Bill Hall. Their plan apparently was to make Hall so confident he can hit anything thrown by a Reds pitcher (through repeated success) that he'll eventually just start swinging freely and make outs for himself.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:25 PM
LaRue Ks looking, 1 out

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:25 PM
Cubs lead the Astros 1-0. Bottom of the 5th.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:26 PM
Ramirez grounds to second, 2 out

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:27 PM
Freel gets hit by a 1-2 pitch

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:29 PM
Freel easily steals second, 3-1 to Lopez

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:30 PM
Next pitch Lopez takes ball 4

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:31 PM
Griffey grounds the first pitch to second, Weeks tries to play it into an error again but doesn't quite. 3-1 Brewers middle of 5

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:31 PM
Good AB Junior.

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:33 PM
Although his power numbers are down significantly, I can't help but be impressed with the patience that Felipe is showing at the plate. He walked a total of 57 times last season, and is already at 46 BBs for this season alone. That's an increase from .088 BB/PA to .121 BB/PA.

Impressive, and good to see from a developing young hitter.

RedsMan3203
07-05-2006, 10:35 PM
Although his power numbers are down significantly, I can't help but be impressed with the patience that Felipe is showing at the plate. He walked a total of 57 times last season, and is already at 46 BBs for this season alone. That's an increase from .088 BB/PA to .121 BB/PA.

Impressive, and good to see from a developing young hitter.


Probably the answer to why his production has gone down this year.....

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:35 PM
Jenkins Ks looking and doesn't like the call, 1 out

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:38 PM
On the 9th pitch of the atbat, Lee flies to Kearns. 2 out

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:40 PM
Fielder pops to LaRue, 3-1 Brewers after 5

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:41 PM
well, EZ is hanging in there for now.:thumbup:

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Ramirez has battled tonight, and kept us in the game (so far). Lets help him out and get some runs.

Patrick Bateman
07-05-2006, 10:43 PM
Ramirez has battled tonight, and kept us in the game (so far). Lets help him out and get some runs.
If you subtract Weeks' lucky triple on the chopped ground ball over Aurilia's head, which probably cost him 2 runs, he's picthed pretty good.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:43 PM
Dunn chops one back to the pitcher, 1 out

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:44 PM
If you subtract Weeks' lucky triple on the chopped ground ball over Aurilia's head, which probably cost him 2 runs, he's picthed pretty good.
Yep.

That was one of the luckiest plays I have ever seen.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:45 PM
Aurilia doubles to right-center

TheBigLebowski
07-05-2006, 10:46 PM
Hat's been hot lately.

A little bingo here would be nice.

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 10:46 PM
If you take away Arroyo's bad inning last night, he threw a 1 hitter ;)

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:48 PM
Hatteberg lines a 3-2 ground rule double to left-center. 3-2 Brewers

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:48 PM
Hatte baby!!!

3-2!

TheBigLebowski
07-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Nice Hat!!

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Hatteberg lines a 3-2 ground rule double to left-center. 3-2 Brewers

yep, he stinks. ;)

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 10:52 PM
That was almost good.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
After hitting 3 rockets foul, on the 9th pitch of the atbat Kears finally triples off the top of the left-center wall. 3-3 game

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Tie game! :D

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Ears!!!

tie game!

Jpup
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Kearns is fools gold, better trade him too.:bang:

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Brewers going to the bullpen

TheBigLebowski
07-05-2006, 10:54 PM
Man...this one is really going to sting once the bullpen blows it.

Bet we lose this one 6-5. I've seen it too often to get excited, especially against the Brewers.

Nice hit, Ears.

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:54 PM
Jose Capellan in to pitch

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:55 PM
After hitting 3 rockets foul, on the 9th pitch of the atbat Kears finally triples off the top of the left-center wall. 3-3 game

What, was it one of those "Roy Hobbs Ball Unraveling" moments or something? I can't envision Austin Kearns tripling in Yellowstone Park, much less Miller Park. ;)

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
That was god-awful :thumbdown:

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
Squeeze play is on, LaRue misses the bunt. 2 out

Patrick Bateman
07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
Man...this one is really going to sting once the bullpen blows it.


Hey their bullpen stinks too, as theirs is rated 15th in the NL.

....just above our 16th rating of course....

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
Nice job Jason.

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
Welsh was not happy with LaRue.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Trade Kearns now

LoganBuck
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Larue is really working my last nerve of late.

KronoRed
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Trade LaRue as well

Falls City Beer
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
That's Narron's fault. Why on earth would you call for a squeeze against the second hardest thrower in the Central?

Tornon
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
LaRue Ks swinging, 3-3 middle of 6

WMR
07-05-2006, 10:58 PM
He should be upset with LaRue. That's bush league, especially out of a guy who's trying to get playing time.

RFS62
07-05-2006, 10:58 PM
That's Narron's fault. Why on earth would you call for a squeeze against the second hardest thrower in the Central?


yep

reds44
07-05-2006, 10:58 PM
LaRue is terrible. Just pitiful.

GAC
07-05-2006, 10:58 PM
There's the LaRue we all love! ;)

K inning over

He pulled his bat back on the squeeze and basically left Ears hanging. Dumb!

harangatang
07-05-2006, 10:59 PM
Narron playing Hatteberg shows why he is a major league manager, Narron knows what he is doing.

RedsMan3203
07-05-2006, 10:59 PM
I thought the ump said it was a foul ball?>

CTA513
07-05-2006, 10:59 PM
Reds have to be one of the few teams in the majors that cant suicide squeeze.

:bang:

Caveat Emperor
07-05-2006, 10:59 PM
That's Narron's fault. Why on earth would you call for a squeeze against the second hardest thrower in the Central?

Because he figured Ned Yost would think: "Man, nobody could POSSIBLY be that stupid to call for a suicide squeeze with Jason LaRue at the plate and the hardest thrower in the NL Central on the mound."

Tornon
07-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Koskie bounces one back to Ramirez, 1 out

Patrick Bateman
07-05-2006, 11:00 PM
Reds have to be one of the few teams in the majors that cant suicide squeeze.

:bang:
I truly can't remember ever seeing the Reds do it successfully.