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CTA513
07-19-2006, 10:13 PM
Who goes down then?

Standridge?

You would have to DFA him.

They might be able to send someone down for a day and then bring them back up after the start. If they cant do that, then the Reds could think about getting rid of someone in the bullpen and let Germano replace them until Belisle or Claussen are ready to rejoin the team.

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 10:13 PM
Matt..these are 700 guys aren't they? ;)

Now some guy is feeding lines to his daughter -- this is small town radio at it's finest.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 10:14 PM
it'd have to be standrige nobodyw ould claim him

reds44
07-19-2006, 10:14 PM
They might be able to send someone down for a day and then bring them back up after the start. If they cant do that, then the Reds could think about getting rid of someone in the bullpen and let Germano replace them until Belisle or Claussen are ready to rejoin the team.
If you go down you have to stay down for at least 10 days.


I could see Germano starting tomorrow and taking Standridge's spot in the pen.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 10:16 PM
they could always move back tommorrows game
Not on this short of notice, I doubt they could.

KittyDuran
07-19-2006, 10:16 PM
Those Zamboni carpet suckers were pretty cool. I have a picture of the starting 8 from 75 and they are all sitting on one of them called "The Big Red Machine". Cool picture.IIRC wasn't Gullett in the pic as well?

harangatang
07-19-2006, 10:17 PM
This new thunderstorm is moving 10 MPH, it's going to be awhile even if the storm dissapates due to the field conditions.

BoydsOfSummer
07-19-2006, 10:18 PM
Yeah,forgot Gully.

Patrick Bateman
07-19-2006, 10:19 PM
You could start Mays tommorow, then release him after the game and bring up German/Gosling to pitch Saturday.

The only thing that could throw a monkey wrench into those plans would be if Mays pitched a shut out.....nah....

Marc D
07-19-2006, 10:21 PM
You could start Mays tommorow, then release him after the game and bring up German/Gosling to pitch Saturday.

The only thing that could throw a monkey wrench into those plans would be if Mays pitched a shut out.....nah....

consider the plan wrench proof then

Puffy
07-19-2006, 10:22 PM
as if none of this ever happened

Thats what the last girl I slept with told me. Word for word.

RedLegSuperStar
07-19-2006, 10:22 PM
You could start Mays tommorow, then release him after the game and bring up German/Gosling to pitch Saturday.

The only thing that could throw a monkey wrench into those plans would be if Mays pitched a shut out.....nah....

he can't last nine innings.. 6-7 tops

Mutaman
07-19-2006, 10:25 PM
They're showing the 9/21/01 Mets /Braves game on the the Mets network, the first game in New York after 9/11. The Crowd is incredibly wired. If the delay lasts long enough, we can see Piazza's home run. Boy, does that seem like 100 years ago.

oneupper
07-19-2006, 10:25 PM
You could start Mays tommorow, then release him after the game and bring up German/Gosling to pitch Saturday.

The only thing that could throw a monkey wrench into those plans would be if Mays pitched a shut out.....nah....

Not unprecedented. Jesus Sanchez shut out the Cards a couple years ago and was released like two weeks later.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:26 PM
This game is only in the 2nd. If it starts, it won't start until 10:15 at the earliest, meaning the game won't end until like 1.

Then you have to play a 12:35 day game tomorrow.

Just call it.

I'm with you. :)

Patrick Bateman
07-19-2006, 10:26 PM
Thats what the last girl I slept with told me. Word for word.

I surprised you could remember, word for word, something that was said so many, many, many, many years ago.:laugh:

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:26 PM
Now some guy is feeding lines to his daughter -- this is small town radio at it's finest.

Banana Phone crowd is tough to filter sometimes :)


I'm all for the GABP crew to make a decision very soon.

Strikes Out Looking
07-19-2006, 10:28 PM
Don't the umps get to decide?

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 10:29 PM
Reds.com message board gets a namecheck -- someone needs to get on and give a RedsZone shoutout.

flyer85
07-19-2006, 10:29 PM
I'm all for the GABP crew to make a decision very soon.It's all up to the umpires, they usually wait at least 2 hours so they will wait around another half hour at least.

RFS62
07-19-2006, 10:29 PM
I surprised you could remember, word for word, something that was said so many, many, many, many years ago.:laugh:



Oh, snap


:cool:

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:30 PM
It's all up to the umpires, they usually wait at least 2 hours so they will wait around another half hour at least.

Whomever it is....make a decision! :D

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 10:31 PM
Another one of Andy's callers thinks Bronson Arroyo's best days are behind him because he threw a perfect game in the minors.....

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 10:32 PM
Another one of Andy's callers thinks Bronson Arroyo's best days are behind him because he threw a perfect game in the minors.....
he just hammered the caller basically calling him an idiot

Strikes Out Looking
07-19-2006, 10:33 PM
Another one of Andy's callers thinks Bronson Arroyo's best days are behind him because he threw a perfect game in the minors.....

How do his callers figure out the confusing code of the numbers on the phone to actually call Andy?

RedsMan3203
07-19-2006, 10:33 PM
So, what is the word on the game?

oneupper
07-19-2006, 10:34 PM
So, what is the word on the game?
ROSEBUD?

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 10:34 PM
Another one of Andy's callers thinks Bronson Arroyo's best days are behind him because he threw a perfect game in the minors.....

I know he gets hammered on here a lot, but I love Andy to death. His shtick is fantastic -- especially compared to some of the absolute crap that passes for sports talk radio around the country.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 10:35 PM
So, what is the word on the game?
The warning tracks look better, but still not great. I'd say it looks alittle better than it did a half hour ago.

harangatang
07-19-2006, 10:38 PM
I know he gets hammered on here a lot, but I love Andy to death. His shtick is fantastic -- especially compared to some of the absolute crap that passes for sports talk radio around the country.Furman mentioned and complimented Dunn's OBP earlier in call and will occasionally mention more advanced stats but the problem is most of the people that call in have no idea what he's talking about.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:41 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:41 PM
he just hammered the caller basically calling him an idiot

He called back...I basically did the same thing :D

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 10:42 PM
If the game is called all stats for the game count. The game would not be official and would be rescheduled.

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 10:42 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm
3rd shift baseball

RedLegSuperStar
07-19-2006, 10:42 PM
8 pages of rain delay.. how many more till the game being called

Virginia Beach Reds
07-19-2006, 10:43 PM
I would guess that this game would be played, maybe around 10:20 restart time. Can you imagine playing 2 tomorrow. It's gonna be a scorcher at 12:30...probably at least 95!

reds44
07-19-2006, 10:43 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm
Ba hum bug.

oneupper
07-19-2006, 10:43 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm

That figures. Harang has 51 pitches tonight. He should NOT be sent out there again, even if he pleads, begs and shows his heart to Narron.

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 10:43 PM
Is there a chance of more rain before they play 5 innings?

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:44 PM
Is there a chance of more rain before they play 5 innings?

If so, I will cry. I think they'll be ok though.

reds44
07-19-2006, 10:44 PM
That figures. Harang has 51 pitches tonight. He should NOT be sent out there again, even if he pleads, begs and shows his heart to Narron.
That would hurt like a you know what.

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 10:44 PM
They're showing the 9/21/01 Mets /Braves game on the the Mets network, the first game in New York after 9/11. The Crowd is incredibly wired. If the delay lasts long enough, we can see Piazza's home run. Boy, does that seem like 100 years ago.
I was watching that...two thoughts from that:

1) Piazza had blond hair...no shock that there were rumors flying around about him.
2) Everyone was all serious during the pregame and Bobby V was giggling like a schoolgirl who just got a note passed to her from Denorfia. I was nauseous when there were rumors about him going to Cincy.

RedLegSuperStar
07-19-2006, 10:44 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm

But will Harang be on the mound?

37red
07-19-2006, 10:46 PM
I told you this series would be a good test of redszone stamina, not to mention the team.

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 10:46 PM
Ba hum bug.
Either way Mays is going to pitch :help:

Chip R
07-19-2006, 10:46 PM
I know he gets hammered on here a lot, but I love Andy to death. His shtick is fantastic -- especially compared to some of the absolute crap that passes for sports talk radio around the country.

I would much rather listen to Furman than Tracy Jones. At least Furman does not talk about himself all the time. But he does get some interesting callers. The other night about midnight, I was listening to Extra Innings and some caller was complaining about Denorfia and how he is not ready. He then said that either Bruce or Stubbs should be called up to take his place. I kid you not. Last night some caller was disagreeing with Furman about something and Furman called him on it and all the caller could say in return was Uhhhhh, uhhhh, uhhhh, uhhhhh. It was embarrassing.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 10:46 PM
Is there a chance of more rain before they play 5 innings?
Unless something else pops up out of nowhere it should not be a problem. The next big area of rain on the radar is currently in mid Illinois and that should not be here for hours.

37red
07-19-2006, 10:47 PM
new pitcher, new pitcher, new pitcher, send out the cheer leaders to dance on the dug out.

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the info Reds Fanatic.

HotCorner
07-19-2006, 10:49 PM
According to Marc's blog, it will be Standridge.

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 10:51 PM
How can I argue when someone named Matt gets props :clap:

TheBigLebowski
07-19-2006, 10:51 PM
Game will start again at 10:10pm

[Jack Bauer]DAMMIT!![/Jack Bauer]

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 10:52 PM
According to Marc's blog, it will be Standridge.
That should go well

RFS62
07-19-2006, 10:52 PM
I would much rather listen to Furman than Tracy Jones.


That's some choice. I'd much rather have athletes foot than jock itch, I guess.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 10:52 PM
Seven innings of Reds bullpen against the Mets offense, already trailing by four runs??

Why couldn't they have called this thing an hour ago.

:(

Marc D
07-19-2006, 10:53 PM
we should just put the ball on a tee and use the extra defender to help shag the rockets

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 10:53 PM
According to Marc's blog Tom Hanks, Ron Howard and Dennis Miller are at the park tonight and were talking to the press during the rain delay. They should have played that instead of these idiot callers.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:53 PM
Unless something else pops up out of nowhere it should not be a problem. The next big area of rain on the radar is currently in mid Illinois and that should not be here for hours.

If it even gets here at all...

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 10:53 PM
Seven innings of Reds bullpen against the Mets offense, already trailing by four runs??

Why couldn't they have called this thing an hour ago.

:(

Odds on Ryan Freel throwing an inning later on tonight -- I'll put it at 15:1. Any takers?

oneupper
07-19-2006, 10:54 PM
Might as well pull Griff out of CF, too..

Strikes Out Looking
07-19-2006, 10:55 PM
If it even gets here at all...

are you the ghost of Tony Sands? Junior league meteorologist?

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:55 PM
According to Marc's blog Tom Hanks, Ron Howard and Dennis Miller are at the park tonight and were talking to the press during the rain delay. They should have played that instead of these idiot callers.

They had a press conference, and I hear it was one of the funniest things you'd ever hear.

We'll have some sound after the game coming back.....how airable? Well, with Dennis Miller, you never know.

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 10:55 PM
According to Marc's blog Tom Hanks, Ron Howard and Dennis Miller are at the park tonight and were talking to the press during the rain delay. They should have played that instead of these idiot callers.
Hire them to do PBP :D

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 10:56 PM
are you the ghost of Tony Sands? Junior league meteorologist?

I've learned a lot about radars over the years. :)

Strikes Out Looking
07-19-2006, 10:57 PM
Hire them to do PBP :D

We've lived through Dennis Miller doing sports announcing. Let's not re-live that nightmare!

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 10:57 PM
Odds on Ryan Freel throwing an inning later on tonight -- I'll put it at 15:1. Any takers?
I bet he throws then chases the pitch to the plate

Scrappy like

WMR
07-19-2006, 10:58 PM
I know John Allen was stripped of all baseball decision responsibilities... I wonder if that included providing input into these rain delay situations?

In years past, he'd go to the gates of hell and back to avoid a cancellation whether it meant a sure-fire Reds loss or not.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:02 PM
Wow the field looks awful.

Don't let Junior go out there.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:02 PM
2 long delays tonight. The Braves - Cardinals game is still be delayed. They never started delay is almost 2 hours on that one.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:03 PM
If it rains again, the game will be called according to Geroge. He also said there is rain in the area.

kaldaniels
07-19-2006, 11:03 PM
2 long delays tonight. The Braves - Cardinals game is still be delayed. They never started delay is almost 2 hours on that one.

What if they call it...do we start from scratch or pickup where we left off.

Thanks!!!

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:03 PM
Looking at that field, you really have to hold your breath and hope nobody gets injured.

Chip R
07-19-2006, 11:04 PM
I know John Allen was stripped of all baseball decision responsibilities... I wonder if that included providing input into these rain delay situations?

In years past, he'd go to the gates of hell and back to avoid a cancellation whether it meant a sure-fire Reds loss or not.

Once the game has started, it is up to the umps whether to call the game. You cannot really blame the Reds for wanting to play though. You do not want to give out rain checks if you do not have to.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:04 PM
Trachsel is staying in as if the night wouldn't be long enough.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:04 PM
If it rains again, the game will be called according to Geroge. He also said there is rain in the area.
I think he's talking about the system out in Indiana and that's hours away.

Marc D
07-19-2006, 11:04 PM
2 long delays tonight. The Braves - Cardinals game is still be delayed. They never started delay is almost 2 hours on that one.

Nature trying to be kind to the NL Central teams tonight but its not going to be enough. Both teams will probably have to actually play and take their beatings.

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 11:05 PM
Trachsel is staying in as if the night wouldn't be long enough.

During this entire delay he was able to keep throwing on his routine to stay fresh in the clubhouse. Word has it he made it through 13 warmup pitches.

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:05 PM
Once the game has started, it is up to the umps whether to call the game. You cannot really blame the Reds for wanting to play though. You do not want to give out rain checks if you do not have to.

Doesn't home-field ownership have considerable input considering the expense of the sod etc. etc.?

Joseph
07-19-2006, 11:06 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:06 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?
7 city baseball tour.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:07 PM
That press conference is on FSN now!!

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:07 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?

Dennis Miller is there too....I don't think they're making a movie.

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 11:07 PM
It had to rain for the Reds part..bummer

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 11:07 PM
Dennis Miller is there too....I don't think they're making a movie.
If they are and Miller is in it..don't see it

Marc D
07-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?

Making another gritty epic in the vein of Pvt Ryan. Its about the horros of sitting in the bleachers when Milton pitches.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?Marc's blog said Hanks, Howard and Miller were taking a ballpark tour. No idea if that has anything to do with a movie or not.

harangatang
07-19-2006, 11:08 PM
are you the ghost of Tony Sands? Junior league meteorologist?Hey it doesn't take a meteorology degree to know that precipitation NORMALLY either 1) weakens or 2) dissapates as the sun goes down. There is a line of thunderstorms that is actually maintaining strength near Chicago and if it holds together it would be in Cincinnati between 1 and 2 am if the NWS doppler is correct. So hopefully the Reds can be done by that time because there shouldn't be any more of the pop-up types tonight like what transpired over the last few hours.

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Ok, why are Tom Hanks and Ron Howard there tonight? Is it just to see baseball, or are they making a film?

I think they're scouring the outfield to try and spot Ron Howard's daughter.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:09 PM
Marc's blog said Hanks, Howard and Miller were taking a ballpark tour. No idea if that has anything to do with a movie or not.
they were in pittsburgh last nite

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:09 PM
If they are and Miller is in it..don't see it

He was funny in "Joe Dirt"

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:09 PM
According to Marc's blog Tom Hanks, Ron Howard and Dennis Miller are at the park tonight and were talking to the press during the rain delay. They should have played that instead of these idiot callers.
Showing it on FSNY.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:10 PM
Trachsel is staying in as if the night wouldn't be long enough.
On second thought with Trachsel pitching maybe that rain in Illinois will be here before the end of the game.

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:10 PM
Making another gritty epic in the vein of Pvt Ryan. Its about the horros of sitting in the bleachers when Milton pitches.
INCOMING!

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:11 PM
The Reds should try to take pitches and delay the game as much as possible to hope for rain before the game becomes official.

BCubb2003
07-19-2006, 11:12 PM
I know John Allen was stripped of all baseball decision responsibilities... I wonder if that included providing input into these rain delay situations?

In years past, he'd go to the gates of hell and back to avoid a cancellation whether it meant a sure-fire Reds loss or not.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060720/483/135b24a4208b4e41aaa82a036c8dcbc4

TheBigLebowski
07-19-2006, 11:12 PM
With Jason Standridge pitching, another huge t-storm could hit the area well before he's had enough time to get us to the 5th. Could be a blessing in disguise.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:13 PM
jason sure should be rested

harangatang
07-19-2006, 11:13 PM
With Jason Standridge pitching, another huge t-storm could hit the area well before he's had enough time to get us to the 5th. Could be a blessing in disguise.It's not going to happen.

Marc D
07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
INCOMING!

as the hero huddles behind a dead horse carcas trying not to spill his nachos and beer

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
The Mets re-take the field and Hatteberg retakes first base

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
Hat was on first. How many outs were there in the bottom of the Second? Has the game restarted?

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Phillips steps back to the plate with 1 out, takes a strike & we are underway again

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:17 PM
Phillips almost grounds into a double play.. bad throw to first means Brandon is safe. 2 out

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:18 PM
Thanks Tornon.

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:19 PM
umps have said anymore rain and they are done. Anybody willing to do a rain dance in their living room? I am!!!

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:19 PM
Mets need to take this pitcher out for the sake of time...

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:20 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060720/483/135b24a4208b4e41aaa82a036c8dcbc4


Hahahahahahahaah.... BCubb you are the man.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:20 PM
Clayton walks on a 3-2 pitch

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 11:20 PM
Mets need to take this pitcher out for the sake of time...

He's like a living Snickers commercial: "Not going anywhere for a while?"

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:21 PM
good at-bat Clayton

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:21 PM
clayton walks

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:22 PM
here comes the meat!

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:22 PM
Does Harang get pulled here?

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:22 PM
LaRue walks on 4 pitches

Wise pinch hitting

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Does Harang get pulled here?

He's done.

RFS62
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
yeah, baby

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Take some pitches....work the count

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
larue walks

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Trachsel is all over the place with his control. Bases loaded for Wise.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Don't use Wise here.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Let's go now!

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Don't use Wise here.
got to gotta save ede and deno for late innnings

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Take some pitches....work the count

Matt's Immutable Law of Baseball #33™: After a 4 pitch walk, you absolutely should be taking all the way on the first pitch.

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Is this the best we got with the bases loaded?

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Matt's Immutable Law of Baseball #33: After a 4 pitch walk, you absolutely should be taking all the way on the first pitch.

And he's Wise enough to obey the law :p:

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Whats the count on Wise?

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Is this the best we got with the bases loaded?
In the second, yep.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Wise grounds to second, 4-0 Mets after 2

36 pitches for Trachsel

CrackerJack
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
grounds out to 2nd...zzzz

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Wise......the human out machine. Unbelievable......Why not Valintine?

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Terrible.

You have a chance to get back in the game and you use Dewayne freaking Wise.

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Wow a wasted opportunity. Is wise staying in the game?

OnBaseMachine
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Another brilliant move by Narron to PH with our worst option in an important atbat.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Wise......the human out machine. Unbelievable......Why not Valintine?
jerry's prolly thinking he might need him later(walk off homer about 2 in the morning

TheBigLebowski
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Ridiculous. I hate Narron.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Standridge in.. defense stays the same as before

TheBigLebowski
07-19-2006, 11:27 PM
ATL already up 1-0 on STL.

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:27 PM
Wow a wasted opportunity. Is wise staying in the game?
I don't think he is staying in.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:28 PM
Wright lines a one-hopper to Aurilia, 1 out

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:28 PM
People...this is the second inning. Would you rather have Encarnacion/Valentin come up with the bases loaded in the second inning or the ninth???

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:28 PM
Another brilliant move by Narron to PH with our worst option in an important atbat.
One of Narron's many bad habits is he almost always uses our worst pinch hitter first off the bench no matter what the game situation. When Q was here he was the first choice now he uses Wise. It just makes no sense.

Gallen5862
07-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Thanks! Hopefully Standridge does well.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Second inning people...second inning. "Waste" Wise now to save the bigger bats for later, and count on your offense to get you back in this.

Some people way over-analyze everything. Calm down, have a beer, and one for me. ")

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Floyd tops one to Hatteberg, 2 out

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:29 PM
People...this is the second inning. Would you rather have Encarnacion/Valentin come up with the bases loaded in the second inning or the ninth???
2nd...no guarantee that the bases will be juiced in the 9th.

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Ridiculous. I hate Narron.

He needs to pull a "George Constanza" for one game do the opposite of what he thinks is right, and it will be right.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:30 PM
2 quick outs for standrige

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:30 PM
People...this is the second inning. Would you rather have Encarnacion/Valentin come up with the bases loaded in the second inning or the ninth???
You don't know if the bases will be loaded again in this game.

You don't pee on scoring chances.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Valentin grounds to Phillips, 4-0 Mets middle of 3

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Great inning for Standridge!

Let's get some runs and cut into this lead!

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:31 PM
2nd...no guarantee that the bases will be juiced in the 9th.

I'd rather rely on this offense to their job and get this team back in this than waste my quality bench guys in the second.

If he did the opposite, and they were needed late in the game, people would be saying what an idiot he was for wasting them in the second.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:31 PM
we will see this new revamped bullpen in full long style tonite

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:32 PM
2nd...no guarantee that the bases will be juiced in the 9th.

amen. You play for the runs now. Your down by 4 runs now. This could be called after 5 or 6 innings, rain is on the way. Giving up a chance to tie the game is ridiculous, and poor managing.... period.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:33 PM
If he did the opposite, and they were needed late in the game, people would be saying what an idiot he was for wasting them in the second.
You typed it before I could.

If the bases are loaded late in the game and they're forced to use Wise in that spot, the same people would say Narron was a moron for using the big bat early.

People who hate Narron, hate him for every single thing he does.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:33 PM
amen. You play for the runs now. Your down by 4 runs now. This could be called after 5 or 6 innings, rain is on the way. Giving up a chance to tie the game is ridiculous, and poor managing.... period.
It is like if you are down 3-2 in a 7 game series and you have the option to pitch your ace in the 6th game, but you don't and save him for game 7.

Nothing is promised.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:33 PM
Freel lines to left, 1 out

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:34 PM
amen. You play for the runs now. Your down by 4 runs now. This could be called after 5 or 6 innings, rain is on the way. Giving up a chance to tie the game is ridiculous, and poor managing.... period.

If he can't rely on his offense to get his team in the game without wasting his bench, 7 innings down, then this team isn't going to go anywhere anyway.

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:34 PM
I'd rather rely on this offense to their job and get this team back in this than waste my quality bench guys in the second.

If he did the opposite, and they were needed late in the game, people would be saying what an idiot he was for wasting them in the second.

With that mentality, why not pinch hit with Arroyo to save both Wise and Valentine for the late innings...right?

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:34 PM
I'd rather rely on this offense to their job and get this team back in this than waste my quality bench guys in the second.

If he did the opposite, and they were needed late in the game, people would be saying what an idiot he was for wasting them in the second.
He has EE, Valentin and Deno (last choice in key situation) sitting there. Sorry, but there was a shot to get some life back into the game. Then the top of the order after.

Dewayne Wise = Quinton McCracken - 8 years

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:34 PM
You don't waste a bases loaded opportunity I don't care what freaking inning it is with your absolute WORST PH'er.

Naroon the buffoon.

(BTW Krivsky, thanks again for jettisoning Cody Ross so we could have a nice big helping of DeWayne Wise)

OnBaseMachine
07-19-2006, 11:34 PM
People...this is the second inning. Would you rather have Encarnacion/Valentin come up with the bases loaded in the second inning or the ninth???

Yeah, they should save him for when it's 12-2.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:35 PM
It is like if you are down 3-2 in a 7 game series and you have the option to pitch your ace in the 6th game, but you don't and save him for game 7.

Nothing is promised.

This is far from the 7th game of the World Series. And in that situation, you pitch your ace....you lose that game, your season is over.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:35 PM
(BTW Krivsky, thanks again for jettisoning Cody Ross so we could have a nice big helping of DeWayne Wise)
Oh Good God.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:35 PM
With that mentality, why not pinch hit with Arroyo to save both Wise and Valentine for the late innings...right?

Why not...he may have homered ;) :D

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:35 PM
Dunn walks

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 11:36 PM
If he can't rely on his offense to get his team in the game without wasting his bench, 7 innings down, then this team isn't going to go anywhere anyway.
Against a good pitcher you take every chance you have, who cares about the 9th? we could be down by 10 by then ;)

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:36 PM
This is far from the 7th game of the World Series. And in that situation, you pitch your ace....you lose that game, your done.
Exactly.

And the Reds may now be done in this game.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Griffey flies to the warning track in left, 2 out.. Trachsel being hit pretty hard so far

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Now starring in "Lost"...Ken Griffey Jr.

What is his story? I can understand a slump, but this is getting old. And he almost goes yard as I type.

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
What is Jr.'s batting Avg. now?

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Exactly.

And the Reds may now be done in this game.

If they don't come back, yes, but they're season is far from done....which in your scenario, it would be done.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
junior just misses that one aurilla up to try to extend the hit streak

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Trachsel all over the place and Junior is swinging like a rookie?

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:38 PM
Exactly.

And the Reds may now be done in this game.

But we aren't.. there are 6 innings left

Aurilia grounds to short, 4-0 Mets after 3.

TheBigLebowski
07-19-2006, 11:38 PM
Has Griffey done anything lately???

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:38 PM
Oh Good God.

What is that supposed to mean? Cody Ross can actually swing the bat like a big leaguer. DeWayne swings like my little sister.

Tony Cloninger
07-19-2006, 11:38 PM
Is there really a point in even debating JN's moves any longer?

90% of the time they suck.......according to most of RZ land, even if they really don't. This one is borderline....not "leaving Milton in bad" but not worth the effort.

HOW about....let's blame whoever brought Wise up, instead of Art Shamsky, Smokey Burgess or Jose Morales from Triple A. Beacuse this org. has so many great PH at AAA waiting to be used.

I think i can honestly say that since i have been on RZ...i have never seen 1 post by anyone that did not blast the manager for something, anything.

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
This team is placing like the items in my cats litter box.

High schoolers know to let Trachsel start pitching strikes.... Good God this team isnt worth watching tonight.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
What is that supposed to mean? Cody Ross can actually swing the bat like a big leaguer. DeWayne swings like my little sister.


That's not a very nice thing to say about your little sister ;)

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
What is Jr.'s batting Avg. now?
.246 but even a worse number coming into tonight his OBP is only .301 that is horrible for a number 3 hitter.

CTA513
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
The Reds are helping out a guy who is having trouble throwing strikes.


:bang:

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:39 PM
But we aren't.. there are 6 innings left

Aurilia grounds to short, 4-0 Mets after 3.
Yes and if you win game 6 you aren't done either.

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Exactly.

And the Reds may now be done in this game.

You know, I'll bet if you hooked Narron up to a lie detector, he'd tell you that the only real concern for this game is coming out of it injury free and not blowing the bullpen too badly for the rest of week/weekend.

Winning would be nice, but it's a 162 game season and they've got winnable games against Milwaukee coming up.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
This team is placing like the items in my cats litter box.

High schoolers know to let Trachsel start pitching strikes.... Good God this team isnt worth watching tonight.
i remember a few ppl saying that on a nite i dunno if u all remmeber maybe the nite dunn hit a walkoff grandslam so it aint over yet

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
What is that supposed to mean? Cody Ross can actually swing the bat like a big leaguer. DeWayne swings like my little sister.
forget it, not worth arguing about.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Nady flies the first pitch to Griffey, 1 out

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Yes and if you win game 6 you aren't done either.

If you lose in game 6....you are done for the SEASON.

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Win would be nice... playing to not get injured is a bad plan in my opinion. Its a game...crap happens.

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:41 PM
Win would be nice... playing to not get injured is a bad plan in my opinion.
usually when u play not to get injured u do

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:41 PM
That's not a very nice thing to say about your little sister ;)

Hahaha. Touche.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:41 PM
Trachsel grounds to Phillips, 2 out

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 11:42 PM
Hahaha. Touche.
Is your sister a lefty?

Sign her :D

alloverjr
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
You typed it before I could.

If the bases are loaded late in the game and they're forced to use Wise in that spot, the same people would say Narron was a moron for using the big bat early.

People who hate Narron, hate him for every single thing he does.

I'm sorry. I can't follow that logic with a road map. As has been stated, take it when you can get it. No offense, but that logic follows the "Freel's to valuable to start because I might need him later in the game." I'd rather have one of the better bench guys hitting off of Trachsel than Wagner anyway.

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Mets seem to be playing to get out of there...a good time to get back in it

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
.246 but even a worse number coming into tonight his OBP is only .301 that is horrible for a number 3 hitter.

So Dunn has a higher batting avg...wow. Jr. is a shell of what he use to be.

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Who predicted Freel?

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Denorfia and/or Kearns doesn't make that play.

Fantastic play by Freel.

StillFunkyB
07-19-2006, 11:43 PM
Excuse me for being out of the loop, but did Cinergy change their name?

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:44 PM
freel nails reyes going to second

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:44 PM
What a play by Freel. He slides to stop the ball and throws the runner out at 2nd.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:44 PM
Reyes lines a single over Phillips' jump, Reyes tries to stretch it but Freel guns him down at second. 4-0 Mets middle of 4

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:44 PM
Austin who?

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
forget it, not worth arguing about.

I'm not trying to argue with you, it's just that only in bizarro world would you take DeWayne Wise as your 4/5th OF'er when you could have had Cody Ross.

Marc D
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Should have saved the great defense for later when it matters. ;)

edabbs44
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Denorfia and/or Kearns doesn't make that play.

Fantastic play by Freel.
How many times does Deno and/or Kearns get picked off? Or arrested for disorderly conduct? :D

KronoRed
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Excuse me for being out of the loop, but did Cinergy change their name?
They were bought by Duke Energy

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
The thing that makes that play even more impressive is the speed of Reyes. That's a tough enough play made 20x tougher because of Reyes' speed.

Mutaman
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
You typed it before I could.

If the bases are loaded late in the game and they're forced to use Wise in that spot, the same people would say Narron was a moron for using the big bat early.

People who hate Narron, hate him for every single thing he does.

Nope, I only hate him for having Milton pitch to Beltran last night.

CrackerJack
07-19-2006, 11:45 PM
Excuse me for being out of the loop, but did Cinergy change their name?

Duke Energy bought them - think it's Duke/Cinergy now.

That guy Duke owns everything/everyone now I think. :)

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:46 PM
That was nice!

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:46 PM
Excuse me for being out of the loop, but did Cinergy change their name?
http://www.duke-energy.com/images/interface/logo_de.gif

yes

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:46 PM
Should have saved the great defense for later when it matters. ;)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

oneupper
07-19-2006, 11:46 PM
Denorfia and/or Kearns doesn't make that play.

Fantastic play by Freel.

Debatable. Nice cut, but the throw had little zip on it. Reyes was barely out.
Kearns would not have made the cut. Deno? Don't know.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:47 PM
Should have saved the great defense for later when it matters. ;)

Don't want to risk injury :D

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:47 PM
Hatteberg lines a double to right-center

StillFunkyB
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
http://www.duke-energy.com/images/interface/logo_de.gif

yes

And I am sure they still have the same most wonderful customer service EVER! :bang:


Ok, sorry, back to the game...

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
hatte with double

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
I think even Casey could have had a triple there.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
I'm not trying to argue with you, it's just that only in bizarro world would you take DeWayne Wise as your 4/5th OF'er when you could have had Cody Ross.
Based on what? Careerwise, they're basically the same player.

reds44
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
Hatte is good.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
There we go!

Let's get some more!

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
Phillips grounds the first pitch up the middle for a single, 4-1 Mets

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:48 PM
Phillips may have woke up!

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
bp singles hatte scores

Reds Fanatic
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Phillips drives in a run. 4-1 Mets.

smith288
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
BP hasnt been missing much... finally found a hole.

WMR
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Is your sister a lefty?

Sign her :D

Wellll... she's a middle reliever 6 years away from free agency so Krivsky'd have to give up at least 1 of our everyday players to get her.

StillFunkyB
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Nice one Brandon!

Let's go get some more!

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Clayton grounds a single into right

Caveat Emperor
07-19-2006, 11:49 PM
How many times does Deno and/or Kearns get picked off? Or arrested for disorderly conduct? :D

Denorfia doesn't go looking for Trouble -- Trouble goes looking for Denorfia.

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
Keep the hit parade going guys!!!!

Single the other way for Clayton

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
If the pitcher gets up watch Narron pinch hit with Valentine...:laugh:

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
clayton singles bp to second

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
clayton 6-12 as red felipe who?

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
Standridge on deck....fine with that, let him pitch as long as he can go.

Mutaman
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
When is this guy Clayton going to start playing as bad as everybody said he would?

redsmetz
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
If the pitcher gets up watch Narron pinch hit with Valentine...:laugh:

Valentine no longer plays for the Reds. Perhaps you mean Valentin?

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
no double play

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
Standridge on deck....fine with that, let him pitch as long as he can go.
Absolutely. You need all you can get out of him tonight.

Unless the bases would be loaded for his spot....

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:51 PM
old man darren oliver warming in the pen

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Tackleberry throwing in the bullpen

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Valentine no longer plays for the Reds. Perhaps you mean Valentin?

How about Pudge?:D

captainmorgan07
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
ede stretching

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Jason swung at ball 3.

Matt700wlw
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
double steal

Marc D
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
When is this guy Clayton going to start playing as bad as everybody said he would?

sooner rather than later unfortunately.

Tornon
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
LaRue Ks swinging during a double steal. 2nd & 3rd, 1 out

George Foster
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Absolutely. You need all you can get out of him tonight.

Unless the bases would be loaded for his spot....
you mean like the 2nd inning?

redsfan30
07-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Basically the same thing as a sacrifice.

StillFunkyB
07-19-2006, 11:53 PM
I long for the day that RedsZone talks about a pitcher as they do Chris Denorfia, and Jimmy Coombs before that. :)