Game Thread 7-22-2006

[cincy09]

Beers:

Rickie Weeks 2B .280 8 33

Jeff Cirillo 3B .322 2 13

Geoff Jenkins RF .269 9 53

Carlos Lee LF .288 27 78

Prince Fielder 1B .282 17 49

Gabe Gross CF .268 8 29

Bill Hall SS .262 19 46

Damian Miller C .263 5 29

Dave Bush P .179 0 4


Reds:


Ryan Freel RF .297 5 17

Adam Dunn LF .243 30 65

Ken Griffey Jr. CF .244 19 53

Edwin Encarnacion 3B .291 7 41

Scott Hatteberg 1B .314 8 29

Brandon Phillips 2B .291 7 47

Royce Clayton SS .277 0 31

Jason LaRue C .203 5 17

Joe Mays P .250 0 3

[keeganbrick]

I like the Dunn batting 2nd and in front of Griff and EE batting cleanup.

[GOREDSGO32]

Hopefully Griffey's game winner last night was the slump turnaround.

[RedEye]

This is the best line-up Narron has trotted out there in awhile. Aurilia isn't even starting... imagine that! Offensively, I could see him replacing Clayton, but I'm not sure what kind of SS defense he still plays. Anyway, I hope this is a sign of things to come.

[biggergipper]

I like the lineup tonight. I think it is interesting that the brewers lineup is identical to last nights with the exception of the pitcher.

according to mccoy, jerry makes his lineup based on match ups and stats. I am not always so sure what stats he is looking at but, that is what the claim is that McCoy made in his interview with Furball the other night.

I wonder if it isn't better to let a guy settle into a place in the order. I think that it might help if you know where you will bat game to game, week to week. for instance if you are in the one or two hole you should be trying to take pitches and get on base, if you are in the 4th through the 6th hole you should plan on driving the ball, hitting the other way.

I just can't decide if I think it would be more beneficial to have a set role or to play Jerry Carousel with the lineups every night. I am starting to wonder after watching Boone, Miley and now Narron whether we will ever have a manager who knows who his best 8 are and plays them regularly in a lineup that has some consistency.

[cincy09]

We need this type of lineup tonight because of who we have on the mound

[texasdave]

if it makes anyone feel any better in the only start joe mays made against milwaukee in his career he gave up only 1 ER in 6 plus innings...

[cincy09]

if it makes anyone feel any better in the only start joe mays made against milwaukee in his career he gave up only 1 ER in 6 plus innings...
Whew.....we're good to go then

[cincy09]

I won't be around much tonight, but if anyone wants to handle the PBP that would be great!

[keeganbrick]

There you go Freel!

[GOREDSGO32]

Homerun! FREEEEL

[texasdave]

weeks strikes out
cirillo walks
jenkins fly out cf
lee fly out lf

mays posts a scoreless first....half of redszone posters faint...life may or may not go on......film at 11 hehe

[texasdave]

Homerun! FREEEEL

aint nothin' like the Freel thing, baby....

[keeganbrick]

2 Run HR SCOTT HATTEBERG!!!!

[cincy09]

Hatte Hatte Hatte

[cincy09]

Bush getting close to a 30 pitch inning

[texasdave]

2 Run HR SCOTT HATTEBERG!!!!

hit me with your rhythm stick, HIT ME HIT ME...all apologies to ian drury :beerme:

[bleedsred]

Now if the Reds can add 4 more runs they may be able to escape the implosion called J Mays...:pray:

[bleedsred]

Clayton strikes out to end the first....

After 1...Reds 3 Brew Crew 0

[bleedsred]

Fielder...walks to start the second

[bleedsred]

Gabe Gross single to right...runners on 1st and 2nd with Red killer Bill Hall due up...

[bleedsred]

Fielder goes to third on a flyout that is run down by Freel...1st and third with Miller up...1 out

[bleedsred]

All tied up on a 3 run bomb ny Miller....pathetic how easy and fast it all happened...JMays should find his way out of town soon

[Razor Shines]

crap.

[bleedsred]

Lead evaporates in 5 minutes...

[kevinc12345]

Damian Miller goes yard...

3-3.

Why the HECK is Mays even playing baseball... anywhere?

I wouldn't let this dude pitch for my softball team.

[keeganbrick]

Start warming up Stanridge next inning.

[bleedsred]

Pitcher pops out...Weeks grounds out for third out

Going to bottom of the 2nd...tied at 3

[Gandalf the Red]

Like sands through the hourglass, so is a 3-run lead with Joe Mays on the mound.

EDIT: Actually, an egg timer is all you really need.

[Razor Shines]

Start warming up Stanridge next inning.
He could just go stand near the mound to get warm, mays has a nice fire started out there.

[kevinc12345]

LaRue singles to lead off the inning, another few runs would be nice here.

[dabvu2498]

Freel = clutch

[Hey Meat]

Mays is horrible.

[kevinc12345]

Freel singles in LaRue after sac bunt from Mays, Freel called out at 2nd.

4-3 Reds with 2 outs and no one on.

[kevinc12345]

Dunn flies out on first pitch.

4-3 Reds going into the 3rd.

41 pitches so far for Bush, though only 7 that inning (even with a run and 2 hits).

[Gandalf the Red]

Mays is horrible.

Well, to be fair, if Narron yanks him immediately, I think 2 IP, 3 ER is the definition of a Joe Mays Quality Start.

[Hey Meat]

Just because he played for the Twins doesn't mean we have to keep him. DFA him NOW. How high does his ERA have to be? 10?

[kevinc12345]

Cirillo pops out to Phillips. 1 out.

[PTI (pti)]

Well, to be fair, if Narron yanks him immediately, I think 2 IP, 3 ER is the definition of a Joe Mays Quality Start.

If he can make it 4 innings with 'only' 3 earned runs, he'll actually *lower* his ERA.

[kevinc12345]

Jenkins grounds out to Hatte, 2 outs.

Carlos Lee grounds out to EE, quick 3!

Mays is the best thing since sliced bread!

[Razor Shines]

Wow a walk for Jr.

[GOREDSGO32]

Yes! A hit by EE .. 2 on now.

[GOREDSGO32]

There's a hit!!! Junior scores! Whooo.

[wojo1025]

"I wouldn't let this dude pitch for my softball team"

I'm starting to think this is a softball game

[GOREDSGO32]

Groundout, but score another run! 6-3 Reds whoo.

[kevinc12345]

Clayton flies out to Gross, almost his first HR of the year.

LaRue intentionally walked, Mays up with 2 outs, 2 on.

[Gandalf the Red]

LaRue intentionally walked, Mays up with 2 outs, 2 on.

Mays with a chance to make a downpayment on the runs he'll give up next inning...

[kevinc12345]

Mays goes down on 3 pitches, Reds up 6-3 going into the 4th!

Bush has now thrown 68 pitches, great news for the Reds and awful news for an already tired Brewers bullpen.

The Brewers had to use a starting pitcher out of the bullpen in a game last week; their making the Reds pen problems look miniscule.

[kevinc12345]

Fielder grounds out to Clayton, 1 out.

6 IN A ROW FOR MAYS?

There's only so long before Mays remembers who, in fact, he really is.

[kevinc12345]

Gross walks on 4 pitches.

Mays may be the most inconsistant pitcher I've seen in a Reds uniform.

Hall with a single to Dunn, 1st and 2nd with one out.

Miller up again to hit another 3-run HR to tie it up AGAIN?

[kevinc12345]

An out here would be nice with pitcher on deck, get out of this inning unscathed (hopefully).

[kevinc12345]

Miller flies out to Griffey, 2 outs.

Bush is done for the night, Corey Hart will pinch-hit.

[kevinc12345]

By the way, this will be a milestone for Mays: only time in his career that he will last longer than his opposing pitcher.

[kevinc12345]

Hart singles in a run, Hall gets to 3rd.

2 outs still, Weeks up.

6-4 Reds.

Standridge up in the bullpen.

[keeganbrick]

Wow, get him out of there. Thank you.

[kevinc12345]

Mays is PATHETIC.

6-5 on a single by Weeks, Mays is done.

[Razor Shines]

Did Hume bring mays a fresh gas can?

[Gallen5862]

DFA Mays and claim anyone off waivers. It doesn't matter who. They can't be worst.

[James B.]

Please tell me this is the last time I ever have to see Mays in a reds uniform. He is the worse major league pitcher I have ever seen.

[kevinc12345]

Please tell me this is the last time I ever have to see Mays in a reds uniform. He is the worse major league pitcher I have ever seen.
And I don't know if you're overexaggerating, I've never seen a pitcher be so out of control. He might walk one guy on 4 pitches then groove the next pitch right down the middle to give up a HR.

[kevinc12345]

Standridge gets out of the jam, Cirillo grounds out.

Reds up 6-5, bottom 4.

[bleedsred]

Get Germano in a car ASAP to get up here to take Mays spot in the rotation

[GOREDSGO32]

Worst? Maybe ... some people may not remember the days of Ryan Dempster, Jimmy Haynes, or Josias Manzinillo though. He's done though here.

[GOREDSGO32]

7-5 REDS lead! Whooo ...

[kevinc12345]

Freel walks, Dunn knocks him home with a double!

Griffey up with no outs.

[kevinc12345]

Griffey lines out, come on Edwin!

[joshnky]

Get Germano in a car ASAP to get up here to take Mays spot in the rotation

I predict that Mays will be sent down after the game and Dumatrait called up for long relief for tomorrow. They won't need the fifth starter again until next Saturday and then it might be Germano or Dumatrait. Germano pitched last night and Michalak is pitching tonight so it won't be them. Dumatrait is scheduled to start tomorrow for the Bats so he would be the likely callup. Anyway they need another bullpen arm for long relief tomorrow with Milton pitching and the pen wasted the past two nights.

[bleedsred]

Reds hitters on top of their game tonight...must have all gotten a good nights rest and focused all day on the task they faced today with Mays starting

[kevinc12345]

Edwin and Hatteberg both K, 7-5 Reds after 4.

[kevinc12345]

3 up, 3 down in the top of the 5th, Standridge showing some good stuff.

[JohhnyBench1001]

I never thought I would be yearning for the days of Claussen...........Mays is just a bloated sack on the mound at this point...............reminds me of the days of these guys....:lindner: :obrien:

[kevinc12345]

Weathers comes in to pitch top of the 6th, Gross walks to start off the inning.

7-5 Reds right now, Mays with the W in his pocket right now.

[Brian]

A lot of people are calling for Mays to be sent down, or DFAd. I think those are too good for him, can his pitching license be revoked so no other team has to suffer through this ever again?

[kevinc12345]

Weathers ensures that we hate him by giving up a 2 run HR.

Tied up again at 7-7.

[GOREDSGO32]

Weathers gives up a 2 run Johnson. Classic Weathers at work .. jeez.

[KYRed]

Man, we just keep kicking the gift horse in the mouth tonight. We've blown a 3 run, 3 run, and 2 run lead through 5 innings.

[kevinc12345]

Dewayne Wise singles to start off the bottom of the 6th, come on Freel!

[JohhnyBench1001]

Weathers gives up a 2 run Johnson. Classic Weathers at work .. jeez.


That's why I still don't get why we got rid of Yan over Weathers. Granted I would like to rid myself of both, but Yan is definitly the lesser of two evils imo. The only thing I can think of is that WK thought that Hackelberry would be better with a new role in a new pen.

[GOREDSGO32]

Weathers was actually pitching decent as of late ... 2.80 ERA his past 11 starts I believe, but we know that wasn't bound to last.

[GOREDSGO32]

BASE HIT DUNN! 2 on, one out I believe.

[kevinc12345]

After freel flies out, Dunn singles to right. Wise advances to 2nd, 1 out.

[kevinc12345]

Griffey goes down swinging.

EE up, 1-2 count..

[GOREDSGO32]

And there's the inning .. fly out. It's sad when we have 7 runs and its a tie game .. ugh.

[kevinc12345]

Edwin lines out, tied after 6.

[flynn78]

Good inning by Bray there. A DP and a flyout to JR.

[Dunner44]

If the pitchers spot doesn't come up, will Bray go 2 innings?

[kevinc12345]

Bill Bray with a nice 7th, now let's score some runs!

[flynn78]

If the pitchers spot doesn't come up, will Bray go 2 innings?
I think so, but a big if there.

[flynn78]

Sac bunt by BP, Hatte to 2nd

[redssouth]

Is it just me or has Jerry been calling for sac bunts a lot more lately?

[Dunner44]

I really hope the pitchers spot comes up, tired bullpen be damned

[flynn78]

Flyout to RF by Clayton. 2 down

[flynn78]

Is it just me or has Jerry been calling for sac bunts a lot more lately?

You know Jerry loves scrappy.
3887

[flynn78]

Coffey in to pitch, Castro in for Clayton at SS. We are replacing a defensive specialist with a defensive specialist.;)

[kevinc12345]

Coffey gets Bill Hall swinging, 2 out.

[kevinc12345]

Miller lines out, we're going to the bottom of the 8th still tied @ 7-7.

[kevinc12345]

Castro leads off with a single.

[kevinc12345]

Castro caught stealing... boo

[dunner13]

with dunn on deck thats a really good time for castro to get thrown out.

[keeganbrick]

Freel Hr Again!!!

[RedEye]

Why was Castro running? He's not really a base stealer is he? Was there a hit-and-run on? If not, that's just a godawful play... especially to make the first out of the inning like that.

[kevinc12345]

RYAN FREEL BABY!

8-7 Reds on Freel HR!

[flynn78]

Coffey finishes what Bray started. Marty is livid at an e-mailer. The man suggested that Marty was wrong in his support of still playing the games after delays again. The guy went on to call Marty a "poorly paid broadcaster". Marty was irate and said he was not poorly paid and could not say what he wanted to say. An old-timer supported the idea and telling Marty to quit feeling sorry for himself and Marty was hot at him saying he has done many doubleheaders in his Hall of Fame career and he did not care to do another. He then explained it much more coherently.

By the way HR RYAN FREEL!!!!

My 1000th post WHOOOOOOOOOO!

[RedEye]

Freel homers. Should be 9-7, but Castro costs us a run and it's 8-7. Never risk an out when you hit in front of a homerun hitter like Ryan P. Freel!

[flynn78]

Why was Castro running? He's not really a base stealer is he? Was there a hit-and-run on? If not, that's just a godawful play... especially to make the first out of the inning like that.

Me thinks botched hit and run.

[RedEye]

Top of the line-up... we need more runs! GO Dunner!

[flynn78]

Dunn hit by pitch. JR to the plate with 1 down.

[RedEye]

Go Griff! #20 right now, baby!

[RedEye]

Pop out. Sheesh.

[kevinc12345]

Edwin hits a ground-rule double, Dunn to 3rd.

[RedEye]

GR 2B by Edwin... 2 out, men on 2nd and 3rd.

[kevinc12345]

Hatteberg coming up, currently 3-4 with 3 RBI's.

[RedEye]

Aurilia hits for Hatteberg (?)

[kevinc12345]

But Rich Aurilia comes in to pinch hit...

[RedEye]

Capellan in to pitch for the Beers.

[RedEye]

Can someone tell me why you pinch hit for a guy who is 3-4 with 3 RBI?

[kevinc12345]

Hatteberg hitting .449 in July, oh well... Let's see what RA does here.

[bleedsred]

swinging at a 3-0 pitch in a 1 lrun lead ballgame in the bottom of the 8th does not make sense to me....JR or anyone else. Think how big the double is with 2 on 1 out instead of 1 on with 2 out.

[RedEye]

Aurilia flies out to right. 8-7 Reds going to the 9th.

[bleedsred]

Can someone tell me why you pinch hit for a guy who is 3-4 with 3 RBI?

heart baby, heart;)

[kevinc12345]

2 questionable calls here. Sending Castro (one run lost there), then pinch-hitting RA for Hatteberg.

[RedEye]

There were at least three STOOPID choices made in that inning, or the Reds could be up by at least two more runs.

1) Castro attempts to steal
2) Griffey swings at 3-0
3) Narron hits Aurilia for Hatte

Yuck... well, at least we're still ahead. Let's hope Everyday Eddie can shut the door.

[kevinc12345]

Bring in Everyday Eddie!

[ITHIKABAND]

Say it with me! EDDIE, EDDIE, EDDIE!!

[flynn78]

Wholesale changes. Everyday Eddie in to pitch. Aurilia to 1st. Deno to LF.

[kevinc12345]

Lead-off single for Brady Clark, Weeks coming up.

[ITHIKABAND]

Ouch, EDDIE!

[RedEye]

Brady Clark leads off with a single. Here we go again...

[flynn78]

Can someone tell me why you pinch hit for a guy who is 3-4 with 3 RBI?

It's SCRAP-tastic!

[paintmered]

ITHIKABAND, that's an interesting name you got there. What kind of website is that?

[bleedsred]

Double play!!!!!!!!!

[keeganbrick]

Double play, sounded like a nice play Rich!

[ITHIKABAND]

DP Nice! Eddie gets the grounder when he needs it!

[kevinc12345]

THERE'S YOU'RE HERE WE GO AGAIN!

Double play baby!

[ITHIKABAND]

My bands site, shameless self promotion!

[flynn78]

Great double play! EDDIE, EDDIE, EDDIE. Yes, this one belongs to the Reds!

[kevinc12345]

Cirillo flies out, and this one belongs to the Reds!

:jump:

[RedEye]

Weeks grounds into double play. One more out!

[ITHIKABAND]

Eddie is automatic

[bleedsred]

Reds WIN!!!!!!!!! Now make it a great night and DFA Mays........

[RedEye]

Reds win! Reds win! Woo hoo! 52-46!

[ITHIKABAND]

Eddie is my hero!

[ITHIKABAND]

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie!

[jimbo]

2 questionable calls here. Sending Castro (one run lost there), then pinch-hitting RA for Hatteberg.

Decisions like that are always questionable. The ones that work everybody praises, the ones that don't are considered stupid.

:bang:

[flynn78]

Reds WIN!!!!!!!!! Now make it a great night and DFA Mays........

and :weathers: Tackleberry must go.

[ITHIKABAND]

What are the odds of the Cards losing tonight?

[kevinc12345]

Freel starts and ends the scoring with a home run, beautiful.

[Simms11]

Sweet win, however, I just really have a hard time understanding why Narron would pinch hit for Hatte. Someone please explain.

:bang:

[ITHIKABAND]

Id like to see them put Standridge or Belisle in that 5th rotation spot!

[kevinc12345]

Decisions like that are always questionable. The ones that work everybody praises, the ones that don't are considered stupid.

:bang:
You're right, no denying that. I still don't understand any rationale for sending Castro, unless it was a hit-and-run...

[JohhnyBench1001]

The bullpen had a nice day today as well.........5 innings and gave up 2 runs (both by Weathers). If we could get 1 more decent starter to go with Arroyo and Harang this team can not only win the wild card, but the division.

[ITHIKABAND]

Sweet win, however, I just really have a hard time understanding why Narron would pinch hit for Hatte. Someone please explain.

:bang:

Probable because Hatte is a Lefty and was facing a lefty?

[keeganbrick]

Merker put on the 15 day DL, Shack called back up. I trust that Narron will ONLY use him as a situational lefty.

[ITHIKABAND]

If not that then because Rich has a better glove which proved wise on that Dp play that he had..

[BoCcc2832]

You're right, no denying that. I still don't understand any rationale for sending Castro, unless it was a hit-and-run...

Well, Freel did swing and miss, so yeah, it probably was.

[ITHIKABAND]

You're right, no denying that. I still don't understand any rationale for sending Castro, unless it was a hit-and-run...

Probable because of his glove. With a one run lead you want your best D on the field and thats what we had!

[jimbo]

Sweet win, however, I just really have a hard time understanding why Narron would pinch hit for Hatte. Someone please explain.

:bang:

Hatteberg is 0 for 17 lifetime against Shouse. That is why he pinch-hit Aurilia for him.

Sounded like Freel missed on a hit-and-run, just wasn't executed.

[Simms11]

Probable because Hatte is a Lefty and was facing a lefty?
I hear you...but jeez Hatte been swinging a hot bat and Aurilla coming in cold. Oh well turned out just fine. Nice to have some good depth coming off the bench.

[TeamBoone]

Probable because Hatte is a Lefty and was facing a lefty?

I absolutely hate that thinking, but you're probably right. I think it waaaay overrated.



If not that then because Rich has a better glove which proved wise on that Dp play that he had..

Is he? I guess I really never noticed. If that was the reason, I'd rather he let SH bat (he was having a good night) and make the defensive replacement at the end of the inning.



Merker put on the 15 day DL, Shack called back up. I trust that Narron will ONLY use him as a situational lefty.

What is wrong with Merker?


BTW, a RZ welcome to you both!

[ThornWithin81]

It would be nice if we could use these wins to put some distance on the Giants and company in the Wild Card race. Good win tonight though, our starting pitching has been bad these first two games against the Brew crew, but I'll take what I can get. :D