Reds are done dealing?

[FutureRedsGM]

In checking through the major sources of trade deadline information this morning, it appears as if the "experts" believe that the Reds are not currently invloved in any deals and are probably done with pre-deadline moves altogether. I checked: cbs.sportsline.com, mlbtraderumors.com, yahoosports.com, and every reds site I could find. I see no mention of the Reds substantiated involvement in ANYTHING. Is this good? Bad? You you think there are more moves on the horizon? Is Wayne K in a holding pattern? Can he aquire help for this team PAST the non-waiver deadline?

I personally think that the offense and the bench are playoff caliber. I would like to see an offensive upgrade at SS, but that is not as important as filling the other holes on this team, namely the #4 and #5 starters. What are your thoughts?

[BRM]

Wayne might be keeping things under wraps right now. I doubt he's done dealing.

[Red Leader]

I don't think he's done talking, that's for sure. Done dealing? That mostly depends on what's out there and what they are willing to take. You've heard recent mention of the Reds being in on Ray King for LaRue. Don't know if that will get done, kind of doubt it, but that's just proof that Kriv isn't done trying to make a move to help the team.

[princeton]

after the Nats deal, Wayne K's phone number is on every GM's speed dial. I went to HS with a girl named "Easy Lay" Hadaway-- she was possibly more popular than Wayne right now. But maybe not.

[flyer85]

If Wayne isn't done it had better be a starting pitcher he is after(and he needn't be picky). When Joe Mays is your 5th starter and your only supposed solution is a sore armed pitcher who hasn't thrown in two weeks you are beyond desperate. Every day Mays goes out there you just get farther behind the 8 ball. In addition, Milty is unlikely to help and there chances are good that Ramirez may not either.

[BRM]

Welcome back Ricardo!

[Red Rover]

Wayne is a little gun shy after his last trade, (lost confidence?). No one in there right mind would have picked the Reds this year to be contending at this juncture in the season. Wayne's 2007 and beyond plans have shifted. The starting pitching still needs addressed, but the only chips that will get you a SP are in the minors and are the Reds future. Wayne's plan is to build a contender for years to come, not just this year. Is Wayne done making trades this season? Maybe.

The reason so many teams feel they are still in the wild card race is because the Reds are leading, and they all feel that Reds will fall off. How can a team picked to be last in the NL central win the wild card, let alone the division? I feel that the big trade, made by Wayne, not only scared himself but everyone in the wild card race. Other GM's are waiting for the Reds to fall, but Wayne is looking at ways to get the Reds into the post season without damaging the future.

[FutureRedsGM]

I agree Ricardo. Mays has got to go and I think that Redmon of the Royals has been hot enough lately to deserve some serious attention. He pitched a 1-0 (loss) complete game against the BoSox recently and his June / July numbers have been good. Even if he is a .500 pitcher the rest of the year, that is a HUGE upgrade from Mays.

[KoryMac5]

Everything will depend on how Claussens rehab start goes on Weds if he gets shelled or the shoulder doesn't feel right Wayne will make a deal. If he feels good than I think they plug him into the 5th starter role.

[flyer85]

Wayne is a little gun shy after his last trade, (lost confidence?). There isn't much to be had, the problem is the Reds need options beyond a question mark at 3 and huge problems at 4/5. They need some depth so maybe is they bring in a Lohse and a Redman they might at least find one to help. Let's be honest, the Reds are stuck with Milton in the rotation. What they really need are options which is what they have none of at the moment.

[flyer85]

Everything will depend on how Claussens rehab start goes on Weds if he gets shelled or the shoulder doesn't feel right Wayne will make a deal. If he feels good than I think they plug him into the 5th starter role.He needs to make a deal even if Claussens shoulder feels fine. He needs to hedge his bet and have another option beyond Claussen being healthy and effective.

[Team Clark]

Wayne might be keeping things under wraps right now. I doubt he's done dealing.


He's the anti Jim Bowden of leaking details.

[flyer85]

He's the anti Jim Bowden of leaking details.I would suppose he is not above leaking if he thought it would be to his advantage.

I think JB leaked the supposed Soriano deal because he doesn't like what the Pale Hose are offering and hopes he can stimulate somebody to attempt to play some defense.

[Krusty]

Krivsky done dealing? I doubt it especially when the need for a fifth starter and bench help still pressing.

Question Wayne has to deal with is which prospects is he willing to give up because he pretty much has dealt what was tradeable at the major league level.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

If you're hearing about potential trades via the rumor mill, those are probably the ones that are dead. The ones you don't hear about have a chance.

[BRM]

Was the rumor mill going prior to the Kearns/Lopez deal?

[crazybob60]

I believe that Wayne K. isn't done dealing at all and I also think that he is keeping very tight lipped about any future deals or possible deals he may make. I think the next deal will be in the next week and I still think it will turn heads similar to the way the Kearns, Lopez deal did, but this time in the Reds favor.

[crazybob60]

Was the rumor mill going prior to the Kearns/Lopez deal?

I believe it was, but it didn't involve the correct players being swapped. We were hearing of the Willis/Cabrera/Tejada trade rumors circulating then.

[Carin4Narron]

Was the rumor mill going prior to the Kearns/Lopez deal?
No! and my gut tells me that a ''impact'' trade is coming for another starting pitcher.

[Matt700wlw]

In checking through the major sources of trade deadline information this morning, it appears as if the "experts" believe that the Reds are not currently invloved in any deals and are probably done with pre-deadline moves altogether. I checked: cbs.sportsline.com, mlbtraderumors.com, yahoosports.com, and every reds site I could find. I see no mention of the Reds substantiated involvement in ANYTHING. Is this good? Bad? You you think there are more moves on the horizon? Is Wayne K in a holding pattern? Can he aquire help for this team PAST the non-waiver deadline?

I personally think that the offense and the bench are playoff caliber. I would like to see an offensive upgrade at SS, but that is not as important as filling the other holes on this team, namely the #4 and #5 starters. What are your thoughts?

Which "experts" saw the Kearns/Lopez deal coming?


He hinted at a trade last week when he said Joe Mays will make his next start barring a 4 man rotaion (which I doubt will happen) or barring A TRADE.

The next few days should be interesting

[TDHND]

It'll be interesting to see what deals are made before the deadline thats for sure.

[redsfan30]

Wayne has said that he's happy with the team the way it is now.

Take that for what it's worth.

[wally post]

I think the trading climate is ripe for another trade. The Tigers and White Sox are so busy battling over Soriano - there's the Arod fog going on...
It's going to get more and more frantic.
I think there is a very good chance that we can package Milton with someone like Aurilia. I'm not climbing on the hate Aurilia bandwagon. He could help someone else as much as he's helped us - and this solves the EE situation. I want to see EE out there playing - period! Whoever loses the bigger sweepstakes might bite on this and we could get a young number three starter with upside maybe.

Finally - I kind of want to ask again - can we afford to trade Dunn with Kearns' potential gone? If so, who would you trade him for?

If we play GREAT this week, then I can't see trading Dunn. Whatchoothink?

[BRM]

Which "experts" saw the Kearns/Lopez deal coming?


This is what I was wondering. I take it there were no rumors involving Kearns or Lopez for bullpen help prior to the trade?

[Matt700wlw]

This is what I was wondering. I take it there were no rumors involving Kearns or Lopez for bullpen help prior to the trade?

I didn't see any

[KronoRed]

I say he's done, he doesn't seem like the type to empty the farm out (the only chips left) to help a borderline contender

[5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM]

The Reds have had interest in Ray King, and recently placed left-hander Kent Mercker on the disabled list. The Rockies didn't pursue a deal for Reds catcher Jason LaRue because they don't want to block prospect Chris Iannetta's path. A straight-up exchange for Boston's Rudy Seanez remains a possibility. Talks regarding Julian Tavarez cooled dramatically over the weekend because of the Rockies' concerns regarding the money left on his contract.

Posted July 25, by Ben Maller

this is the only thing i could find today, seems like even if something is happening the media doesn't like to talk about us small market teams unless Griffey is involved.

[GriffeyRocks80]

I agree. I think the next few days will have their fair share of surprises. Perhaps we'll be seeing Mark Redman in a Reds jersey here soon. He'd be an upgrade over Mays, especially the way he's been pitching of late.

[Ltlabner]

The Rockies didn't pursue a deal for Reds catcher Jason LaRue because they don't want to block prospect Chris Iannetta's path. A straight-up exchange for Boston's Rudy Seanez remains a possibility.

I assume they mean a straight up trade of LaRue for Seanez? If so, based on the numbers he could be a nice addition to the staff. Decent ERA, gives up a fair number of hits, but has a strong number of K's also. Not sure what he is making pay wise, however.

[blumj]

I assume they mean a straight up trade of LaRue for Seanez? If so, based on the numbers he could be a nice addition to the staff. Decent ERA, gives up a fair number of hits, but has a strong number of K's also. Not sure what he is making pay wise, however.
No, they mean King for Seanez. The Red Sox aren't looking for a catcher, at least not a major league one. Seanez is getting $1.9 million for this year, he might also have a team option for next at similar money. But I honestly don't know what to make of him. His stuff looks nasty, and he racks up Ks and hard hit balls.

[Ltlabner]

No, they mean King for Seanez. The Red Sox aren't looking for a catcher, at least not a major league one. Seanez is getting $1.9 million for this year, he might also have a team option for next at similar money. But I honestly don't know what to make of him. His stuff looks nasty, and he racks up Ks and hard hit balls.

Oppps...my bad. Thanks.

[Matt700wlw]

Jerry's working the phones....I believe something is going to happen.

per marc (I consider him very reliable):


I have no doubt Wayne Krivsky is working the phones to try to find something, but I've heard nothing concrete. Joe Mays remains listed as the probable starter for Saturday, but I personally don't believe that will happen.

[Blue]

Jerry's working the phones

I'm glad I know you meant to say "Wayne". Otherwise we might be trading Edwin Encarnacion for Vinny Castilla or David Bell.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm glad I know you meant to say "Wayne". Otherwise we might be trading Edwin Encarnacion for Vinny Castilla or David Bell.

I know what I meant. :D

[Matt700wlw]

I'm glad I know you meant to say "Wayne". Otherwise we might be trading Edwin Encarnacion for Vinny Castilla or David Bell.

Yeah, Wayne...that guy :D