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Kc61
08-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Reds are becoming unwatchable again.

Wayne, it's ok to de-emphasize offense if you're going to have good pitching. Don't think we are there yet.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:12 PM
That was a good AB by Dunn too....and with Griffey coming up....man, what is Freel's deal?

Time for a day off for Mr. Freel

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:12 PM
That is the kind of play which literally would get one of the younger players benched for practically the rest of the year.
Freel is Chris Sabo-bad on the basepaths.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Lofton is like 53 years old and is close to batting .300 That's a real veteran Jerry!!

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Wily Mo goes boom. Boston up, 4-3.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:13 PM
I don't believe I've ever seen a quick toss to first in that fashion before....that was really sneaky. Freel should have been paying attention instead of trying to look at the open fleshy wound on his face.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 10:13 PM
The silver lining is that Dunn had an 1-2 count and now he'll lead off the inning.but he had a couple of nice swings. I'd rather have continued that AB

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 10:13 PM
W/o a doubt. Or should Freel stop sending himself?


I was wondering the same thing...(is it Freel sending himself)..

He's first picked off (or caught stealing...doesn't really matter) with no outs, down by four, and Dunn, Junior and Hatteberg coming up.

Then, down by three with two outs, knowing that he'll get a jump because of the two outs...he tries to steal again. He's going to score anyway by a solid single by Dunn, and if he doesn't, then Junior comes up with two men on anyway and a chance to tie it.

Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Furcal and Lofton ground out to second.

Nice inning by Weathers.

Still 5-2 for those awful guys who left Brooklyn.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:14 PM
Wily Mo goes boom. Boston up, 4-3.

His bat is heating up at the right time for them....might turn out to be a good trade for them after all...

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 10:15 PM
Time for a day off for Mr. Freel

No doubt he gets benched tomorrow to see if he can turn his lights back on upstairs.

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:16 PM
Wily Mo is on fire right now.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Penny Ks Dunn for the third time.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Philly 5
Cards 3

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Hey Foster,
I got George's autograph last night. That dude is ready to be inserted directly into the starting lineup. Wow!

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Until WMP stops being injury prone......you will never know what you are going to get.

Right now....it looks more like the Grimsley (BA) for Rettenmund (WMP)
than..... Jeff Montgomery for Van Snider.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Penny owns Dunn.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:19 PM
Hey Foster,
I got George's autograph last night. That dude is ready to be inserted directly into the starting lineup. Wow!

I am in pretty good shape. I liked meeting you as well!

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 10:19 PM
They don't get something going here and they're going to be losers of five of six and then the players are going to start pressing,...then it just gets worse.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:19 PM
GRiffey hits a chopper to second. Two outs.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm getting frustrated as hell right now.

:explode:

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:20 PM
I am in pretty good shape. I liked meeting you as well!

OK then. Why did you charge me $10 for your autograph?

I'm only 8?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
EE hits the first pitch to short. 1-2-3.

Da Bums 5
Da Guys Playing like Bums 2

After 6

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
Looks bad....looks really bad.

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
This offense misses Kearns and Lopez alot.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
Philly 7
Cards 2

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
Rookies press.

Veterans don't.

So it is written.

So it must be so.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:22 PM
OK then. Why did you charge me $10 for your autograph?

I'm only 8?

I gave you the white kid discount...I normally charge $20:D

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:22 PM
The Cards are giving it away to anyone interested. Unfortunately, the Reds have the new issue of Penthouse and their not interested.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:23 PM
This offense misses Kearns and Lopez alot.

The offense slumped with them too...

That's what appears they are in now.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:23 PM
EE now O for his last 10.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:23 PM
Philly 7
Cards 2

So frustrating to watch the cards get handled every night and we can't gain a single game on 'em.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:23 PM
Lugo pops out to second. Nice play by BP going back.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:23 PM
So frustrating to watch the cards get handled every night and we can't gain a single game on 'em.

I know.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:24 PM
This offense misses Kearns and Lopez alot.

Lopez especially...no power, no stolen bases, no defense, form the SS position.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:24 PM
Drew Ks. Two out.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:24 PM
I gave you the white kid discount...I normally charge $20:D

But I was the little black kid with the tattered Reds hat from the orphanage.

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:25 PM
It is during times like this when the ballclub needs a manager who will close the doors and rip the club a new one.
Way, way, way too many lazy, stupid mistakes. Way, way, way too many guys smiling after making those mistakes - and smiling when losing.
We need a manager who will grab the club by the scruff of the neck - and is not afraid to make some drastic lineup changes in the process. The heck with this "we're in the hunt, we can't change" attitude - we will not win it with that attitude.
so ends another nightly rant.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Ethier bloops one to center. Man on first.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Ethier steals second. Bad throw by Ross (no time anyway).

VR
08-02-2006, 10:26 PM
It is during times like this when the ballclub needs a manager who will close the doors and rip the club a new one.
Way, way, way too many lazy, stupid mistakes. Way, way, way too many guys smiling after making those mistakes - and smiling when losing.
We need a manager who will grab the club by the scruff of the neck - and is not afraid to make some drastic lineup changes in the process. The heck with this "we're in the hunt, we can't change" attitude - we will not win it with that attitude.
so ends another nightly rant.

Yeah, you can only pull that one about 4-5 times during the year. Tonight is a good night for it.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Let's just give away more outs.

:bang:

Good lord.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Phillips throws wide, Hat can't make the tag. Betemit safe on the E.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:27 PM
The defense this series is just great....they are really coming through in this play-off race...

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:28 PM
Weather's ERA is now safe.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:28 PM
David Weathers did a nice job.

:clap:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:29 PM
Dear offense,

Score

Thanks.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:29 PM
Martin hits a lazy one to center. No further damage done.

West Coast Dudes: 5
Midwestern Studs: 2

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:29 PM
Weathers looked much better that outing...kept the ball down and pounded the zone. why not earlier in the summer???

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:30 PM
David Weathers did a nice job.

:clap:

I agree...no runs despite giving them 7 outs in 2 innings

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 10:30 PM
Weathers...with about as 2 good of innings as i have seen this year from him.

Normally a Reds pitcher ends up letting down after a 2-out error.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Elmer in.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Dessens in for Penny. Will hit 4th. Refco in for Drew in RF. (hitting 9th).

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Weathers looked much better that outing...kept the ball down and pounded the zone. why not earlier in the summer???

Over worked. 2 outings a week is a good pace for him.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:31 PM
This ump has been questioned a lot tonight

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:31 PM
First strike for Hat around his nose. Ugh.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 10:32 PM
if we can't score off of Fudd then ....

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:32 PM
That was an absolute horrible call.


These umps suck

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:32 PM
with more reliable guys in the pen, hopefully there will not be the need for Weathers to be out there four times a week. And we can see more outings like that.

Wow...there was a terrible call.

TheBigLebowski
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
I am really disgusted with this team right now

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
if we can't score off of Fudd then ....

My guess is in this all encompassing funk we're in, we won't.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Hat called out on a pitch high and in Indiana.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Elmer in.

Like Casey....from the doghouse to the penthouse!! Good trade for them

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
that was a strike?

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:34 PM
Good lord, how can so many MLB umps be so incredibly incompetent? It's ridiculous.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:34 PM
Like Casey....from the doghouse to the penthouse!! Good trade for them

Speaking of Casey...I'm happy for him, a chance to get a ring.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:34 PM
The "powers that be" ganging up on the REDS.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 10:34 PM
pitch to hatty wasn't even close

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:34 PM
BP flies to left. Two out.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 10:35 PM
must be too hot for the umpire

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Ump was squeezing zone early. Now decides to open it up.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Marty: "He's a terrible plate umpire."

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Espn crawl said Giants Catcher Mike Matheny out for the year with a concussion? Do they put in a waiver claim for Larue?

dsmith421
08-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Regression to the mean is rarely this painful to watch...

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:37 PM
this is one lame effort tonight....again.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:37 PM
Good lord, how can so many MLB umps be so incredibly incompetent? It's ridiculous.

How many of those umps that got fired a few years ago, got rehired? I know some did and some didnot. To me these umps, as a whole, look a lot younger than let's say 10 years ago.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:37 PM
Ross called out on strikes.

Los Angeles Dodgers of Los Angeles County, California: 5
Cin: 2

After 7

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Coffey in to pitch. Will hit 9th.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Espn crawl said Giants Catcher Mike Matheny out for the year with a concussion? Do they put in a waiver claim for Larue?

for LaRue's sake, and for our payroll's sake...I hope so.

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Not sure if this has been posted, but Sports Guy had all these stats on Papi today. Pretty ridiculous.

Then you have Big Papi, the best clutch hitter of his generation. The Elias Sports Bureau was nice enough to send these numbers along: If Ortiz has one more walk-off hit in 2006, he'll be the first baseball hitter to have six in a single season since the division era began in 1969. ... Since the start of 2005, he's come up 13 times with the chance for a game-ending plate appearance and made an out only once (and he ended up winning that game in the 12th inning). ... He has the most walk-off hits in any four-year span (12, and that doesn't include the three in the 2004 playoffs, which made him the only player in history with three game-ending postseason hits). ... Since he joined the Red Sox in 2003, he has 15 walk-off hits and the rest of the team has 19 total. ... Since Aug. 1, 2004, Ortiz has hit 21 home runs in 138 at-bats in Late-Inning Pressure Situations (no other player has more than 13). ... Dusty Baker has the most career walk-off hits (25, including the playoffs), but Ortiz is 10 behind. And just for the record, none of those stats include all the times when he tied a game or gave the Red Sox the lead in the seventh or eighth inning.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Cards down 8-2 in the 5th

Chip R
08-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Espn crawl said Giants Catcher Mike Matheny out for the year with a concussion? Do they put in a waiver claim for Larue?

Out for the year? With a concussion? You gotta be kidding me?

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:39 PM
How many of those umps that got fired a few years ago, got rehired? I know some did and some didnot. To me these umps, as a whole, look a lot younger than let's say 10 years ago.

Heck, the umps they let go were pretty darn bad themselves. I could be imagining it, but the overall quality of the umpiring seems to have become markedly worse the last couple of seasons. It's embarassing to see so much incompetence from the umps regularly.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Freel with a great catch!

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Very good catch by Freel

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Out for the year? With a concussion? You gotta be kidding me?
it all depends on if he gets dizzy at times headaches alot that goes along with concussions

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Freel makes a nice running catch close to the wall. One out.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:41 PM
it all depends on if he gets dizzy at times headaches alot that goes along with concussions

Remeber Bengal Jeff Burris? His concussion(s) pretty much ended his career...he never quite got over the after effects.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:41 PM
Assuming Coffey gets out of this....the Reds have 2 innings, and 6 outs to get 3 (or 4) runs...


Can they do it?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Repko Ks. Two out.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Out for the year? With a concussion? You gotta be kidding me?

Does he have a history of them?

RedsMan3203
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Nuts & Bolts, Nuts & Bolts... Hatteberg got screwed.

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
I have said this time and time again.....kind of like a "play EE" post....or Narron sucks post........ GET the human element out of calling the balls and strikes.

Have a machine call it.....have the ump regurgetate the call via some device in his hand that says....Green is a strike....Red is a ball.

He can do the other stuff..... but do not leave something like balls and strikes to the human eye...beacuse it does not work.

Umps like Doug Harvey are no longer made....or born.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Heck, the umps they let go were pretty darn bad themselves. I could be imagining it, but the overall quality of the umpiring seems to have become markedly worse the last couple of seasons. It's embarassing to see so much incompetence from the umps regularly.

Who grades these umps? Is it once your in your in for life, or can you be removed?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Assuming Coffey gets out of this....the Reds have 2 innings, and 6 outs to get 3 (or 4) runs...


Can they do it?

Odds not good. Win expectancy 7.2%.

Kc61
08-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Coffey is pitching much better now that he is back in the set up role. Can't quite figure out what he is doing in this particular game. Jerry apparently thinks the game is in reach. He has more confidence in the offense than I do right now. Hope he is right.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:43 PM
Assuming Coffey gets out of this....the Reds have 2 innings, and 6 outs to get 3 (or 4) runs...


Can they do it?

No, not tonight....guys are too flat.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:43 PM
We must rally in the last 2 innings here. It is imperitive that they do so.

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:43 PM
Not sure if this has been posted, but Sports Guy had all these stats on Papi today. Pretty ridiculous.

Then you have Big Papi, the best clutch hitter of his generation. The Elias Sports Bureau was nice enough to send these numbers along: If Ortiz has one more walk-off hit in 2006, he'll be the first baseball hitter to have six in a single season since the division era began in 1969. ... Since the start of 2005, he's come up 13 times with the chance for a game-ending plate appearance and made an out only once (and he ended up winning that game in the 12th inning). ... He has the most walk-off hits in any four-year span (12, and that doesn't include the three in the 2004 playoffs, which made him the only player in history with three game-ending postseason hits). ... Since he joined the Red Sox in 2003, he has 15 walk-off hits and the rest of the team has 19 total. ... Since Aug. 1, 2004, Ortiz has hit 21 home runs in 138 at-bats in Late-Inning Pressure Situations (no other player has more than 13). ... Dusty Baker has the most career walk-off hits (25, including the playoffs), but Ortiz is 10 behind. And just for the record, none of those stats include all the times when he tied a game or gave the Red Sox the lead in the seventh or eighth inning.

I would take Ortiz on a team any day (especially if he could field). The guy's attitude alone is a glue which holds that Sox team together quite nicely.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Liner to Royce. Three out.

"Shifty Deceptive People'': 5
"Hue of the Long Wave end of the visible Spectrum": 2

mid 8th

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
boy do the twins feel like retards for letting ortiz go

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Who grades these umps? Is it once your in your in for life, or can you be removed?

I think MLB does it now, btu I don't think they have the gonads to crack down on the incompetence so pervasive throughout ML umps. It's not that hard to call balls and strikes. With the nature of umpiring, I think it's one of the few professions where a high turnover rate is a good thing. I think it would be good to see the bottom 10% let go every year.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 10:45 PM
If the "trade"'s done nothing else, it's helped me more greatly appreciate the bullpen that was here before: Weathers, Coffey, Mercker.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:45 PM
Why is Clayton hitting?

Cyclone792
08-02-2006, 10:46 PM
boy do the twins feel like retards for letting ortiz go

IIRC, before the Twins let him go, they tried to screw with his swing, plate discipline and just about his entire approach at the plate.

When Ortiz responded poorly to all that nonsense, they cut him loose.

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:46 PM
boy do the twins feel like retards for letting ortiz go

Living here in Minnesota, I've met several Twins fans and the concensus is that Terry Ryan tried to turn him into a smallball player and when it didn't take he gave up on him (I've seriously heard that from multiple people). I'm not sure how true it is, but one guy even said that Ryan has since admitted it. But you're right, it's not something they don't think about. Ortiz in that lineup and they're a different team.

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:46 PM
clayton yard wow

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
Who was that who was batting for Clayton? Because I am pretty sure Royce could not have done that :p:

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
boy do the twins feel like retards for letting ortiz go
He was too young. I think Wayne was trying to open up a roster spot to bring Hrbek back.

Um....Royce will be getting PED tested tonight. First HR since June 2005.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
Clayton's going deep.











Ok..maybe not ;)


:laugh: :laugh: :lol:

:jump:

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
Routine Royce HR!!!!!!
the bubblegum Sat game and last nights errant routine dp ball has really soured me on this dude.

Nice swing though

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
I guess that's why.
Clayton Homers. No 1 of the year.

5-3

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
The Reds have just called a press conference to announce a 3 year extention because of Clayton's homer....

:)

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
It's official...Clayton will start EVERYGAME until the end of the season

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
Why is Clayton hitting?

Because he is money baby!

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:47 PM
Clayton's going deep.

Rep points for you!!!!!

:clap:

flyer85
08-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Hr #1

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Denorfia in for Coffey.

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 10:48 PM
The Reds are 1-14 in BABIP opportunities tonight.

Cyclone792
08-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Living here in Minnesota, I've met several Twins fans and the concensus is that Terry Ryan tried to turn him into a smallball player and when it didn't take he gave up on him (I've seriously heard that from multiple people). I'm not sure how true it is, but one guy even said that Ryan has since admitted it. But you're right, it's not something they don't think about. Ortiz in that lineup and they're a different team.

Baseball Prospectus goes into heavy detail in Mind Game on what the Twins tried to do with Ortiz. Your summary above just about matches what BP wrote.

There's a famous Ortiz quote from his Twins days on his response to what they wanted him to do, but it's not exactly family appropriate. :laugh:

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Denorfia called out on strikes. One out.

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:49 PM
the reds will win this game mark it down

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
This umpire must have a hot date waiting on him after the game.

RedsMan3203
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
Wow... that pitch was 2 feet outside.. .Surprised it wasn't a K.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
Ump calling very dubious strikes.

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
this ump sucks

Marc D
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
The Reds have just called a press conference to announce a 3 year extention because of Clayton's homer....

:)

[]Laughs nervously untill sure it won't really happen[]

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:50 PM
This ump is horrible...

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 10:51 PM
one of those ball calls was in the exact same place as a strike call.
Freel walk...Ryan...don't do anything stupid.
Please.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:51 PM
Denorfia called out on strikes. One out.

On a pitch that appeared to be SLIGHTLY outside the zone.

BOOO!

Cyclone792
08-02-2006, 10:51 PM
Outstanding PA by Freel to get on base in front of Dunn. Now don't get thrown out trying to steal a bag or get picked off. Just give the big guy a chance to do something.

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:52 PM
Come on Adam!!!!!

tie it up!

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:52 PM
Freel walks. Elmer stays in.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:52 PM
This ump is horrible...

Hatty gets screwed...Freel get's a couple of call's his way on better pitches...
bad ump!

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 10:52 PM
Freel doin what he oughta.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
And the first pitch to Dunn was a strike called a ball.

oh my.

guess you gotta groove one to Dunn then.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
another bad call....

RedsMan3203
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
man... has this ump been like this all night?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Ump calls ball in Michigan a strike.

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
that was a ball!

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Baseball Prospectus goes into heavy detail in Mind Game on what the Twins tried to do with Ortiz. Your summary above just about matches what BP wrote.

There's a famous Ortiz quote from his Twins days on his response to what they wanted him to do, but it's not exactly family appropriate. :laugh:

I wonder how many people who noticed it were chastised by people saying that the responsibility lies solely on the player and not the coaches and that players should take full responsibility for their performance? I'm not trying to be facetious here, but I brought up the idea that it looked like Dunn's approach had been screwed with by coaches and there was some reports in the press saying as much. The concesus response here was something to the effect of "at what point in time does it become the responsibility of the player?" I always thought that coaching does matter.

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:54 PM
This is one of the worst umps we'e seen this year.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:54 PM
this is the ball game

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:54 PM
Count full on Adam.

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Rough, rough night for Mr. Dunn.

redsfan4445
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
this ump has been TERRIBLE all night!! Dunn should have had a WALK!!

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
come on junior

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Dunn Ks on a curve. Golden sombrero for the Golden boy.

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
That 3-1 pitch was THE pitch.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Dunn turns cold Jr. starts hitting. An 8 cylinder engine working on 7.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Well, I'd say AD's hot streak is officially ovuh.

reds44
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
0-4 with 4 Ks


yikes

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 10:56 PM
Rough, rough night for Mr. Dunn.

4 hits in eight innings?

Rough, rough night for the entire offense.

CTA513
08-02-2006, 10:56 PM
This Ump really blows.... really, really blows.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:56 PM
I'm looking for a rockin hat

Golden Sombrero? It is the last one in stock.

How does it fit sir?

It fits perfect.

Check or charge?

Charge.

Your name.

Adam Dunn.

captainmorgan07
08-02-2006, 10:56 PM
i feel a junior homer coming on

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Well, I'd say AD's hot streak is officially ovuh.

Carrying a team for three weeks is thirsty work.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:57 PM
That 3-1 pitch was THE pitch.

Very hard pitch to hit. Low outside corner at the knees. Great pitch by Dessens.

MWM
08-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Well, I'd say AD's hot streak is officially ovuh.

He hit a game tying two run HR last night and was 2-4 the game before.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 10:58 PM
Please. KGJ. Answer the prayer.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:58 PM
This Ump really blows.... really, really blows.

EZ was NOT getting that strike zone early on. (nor was Penny, IMO).

George Foster
08-02-2006, 10:58 PM
Very hard pitch to hit. Low outside corner at the knees. Great pitch by Dessens.
Third pitch was a ball anyway

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 10:58 PM
Very hard pitch to hit. Low outside corner at the knees. Great pitch by Dessens.
I don't know...that looked pretty good.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 10:58 PM
I wonder how many people who noticed it were chastised by people saying that the responsibility lies solely on the player and not the coaches and that players should take full responsibility for their performance? I'm not trying to be facetious here, but I brought up the idea that it looked like Dunn's approach had been screwed with by coaches and there was some reports in the press saying as much. The concesus response here was something to the effect of "at what point in time does it become the responsibility of the player?" I always thought that coaching does matter.
I remember reading about Braves coaches trying to change Hank Aarons homerun swing. This was because he batted crosshanded. This was because when he had grown up carrying Ice blocks and his wrist strength developed in a cross handed way. When he tried to bat the way the Braves coaches wanted he kept striking out. When the coaches turned away from him he hit a couple towering homeruns. They then noticed he was back to batting crosshanded. the owners decided to let him bat the way he wanted to. Imagine if he was forced to quit hitting with his natural homerun swing.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 10:59 PM
Argghhh UMP!!!

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 10:59 PM
How were the first two strikes, but that one wasn't???

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 10:59 PM
This ump is clueless

CTA513
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
EZ was NOT getting that strike zone early on. (nor was Penny, IMO).

Penny got a called strike that Standridge had called ball 4.
Its one thing to have a big strike zone, its another thing to keep on changing it all game long.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Full count on Jr.

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
We've seen some pretty bad umps this year, but this one takes the cake.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:00 PM
that was ball 4

flyer85
08-02-2006, 11:01 PM
ump is just killin the Reds

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Jr grounds ball four past first.

(with this ump,tho).

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 11:01 PM
He hit a game tying two run HR last night and was 2-4 the game before.

3 for his last 14 (with 9 Ks) too. He's cooling off. It's okay, it was bound to happen
after the tear he was on.

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:01 PM
:censored: :censored: :censored:

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:01 PM
was that ball outside?

redsmetz
08-02-2006, 11:02 PM
This isn't the same ump that called last Friday's game in Milwaukee, is it?

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:02 PM
This ump should be fired on the spot

I'm not one to usually complain about the umps, but this guy is flat awful.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Jr hits a ball way outside to the warning track in left...

Ump got into his head...no doubt.

reds44
08-02-2006, 11:03 PM
Griffey swung at ball 4 twice.

The was an ugly swing, but it still almost went out.

StillFunkyB
08-02-2006, 11:03 PM
This isn't the same ump that called last Friday's game in Milwaukee, is it?

That was Brian Runge. I don't know who this is.

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:03 PM
It is absolutely impartive that you keep the Dodgers off the board in the 9th if you want to have a shot at coming back.

1 more tack on run would be a back breaker.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:03 PM
Cormier...do better than yesterday

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:03 PM
After 8

Pacific Time Zoners: 5
Fringe of ESTers: 3

MWM
08-02-2006, 11:04 PM
Honesly, when an ump is all over the place like this guy has been, it's tough to lay off pitches like the one Junior swung at.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:04 PM
Griffey swung at ball 4 twice.

The was an ugly swing, but it still almost went out.


With this ump, these guys don't know what to swing at.


Not fair, really.

reds44
08-02-2006, 11:04 PM
After 8

Pacific Time Zoners: 5
Fringe of ESTers: 2
It's 5-3

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:04 PM
Looks like Hatteberg got his feet tangled up going for that grounder.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:04 PM
here we go...

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:05 PM
Cormier in.
Lofton singles to right.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:05 PM
It's 5-3

Even Clayton HRs count.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 11:05 PM
lowest ERA gave up an ER last night, will he again tonight?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:05 PM
It's 5-3
corrected!

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:06 PM
lowest ERA gave up an ER last night, will he again tonight?
I believe all five runs were unearned due to the two errors.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:06 PM
golly neds. Cards still getting handled. What is up? We lose they do. We win they do. I guess on Monday, that will be corrected.

reds44
08-02-2006, 11:06 PM
I believe all five runs were unearned due to the two errors.
The only unearned runs were for Bray.

Coffey's and Cormier's were earned.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:07 PM
Don't look now, but a Philly win and a Cincy loss puts Philly 3.5 out of the WC race...

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:07 PM
Don't know if this is old news but the Cubs and Diamondbacks were rained out.....two games tomorrow. Go cubs

redsrule2500
08-02-2006, 11:07 PM
This sucks. This really really sucks.

We are falling apart at the time we need wins the most.

Why...no offense, no starting pitching, no luck at all.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:07 PM
Don't look now, but a Philly win and a Cincy loss puts Philly 3.5 out of the WC race...

Whole pack is gaining ground.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:08 PM
Clayton doesn't screw that one up.

Kc61
08-02-2006, 11:08 PM
Clayton doesn't screw that one up.

Mr. Routine. Great nickname somebody used earlier. Go Royce.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:09 PM
Top 9TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: Rheal Cormier replaces Todd Coffey, batting 9th.

Top 9TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Kenny Lofton singles on a ground ball to right fielder Ryan Freel.

Top 9TH B:2 S:1 O:1
Julio Lugo grounds out, shortstop Royce Clayton to first baseman Scott Hatteberg. Kenny Lofton to 2nd.

Top 9TH B:0 S:1 O:2
Ramon Martinez flies out to right fielder Ryan Freel.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:09 PM
Freel.

He got it! He got it! What a brilliant play!

George Grande

I wish I could just mute GG.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 11:10 PM
I believe all five runs were unearned due to the two errors.the Bray runs were unearned, the run Cormier gave up was earned run in his column. Thats why his ERA went from 1.59 to 1.83

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 11:10 PM
The only unearned runs were for Bray.

Coffey's and Cormier's were earned.

They were earned against Coffey and Cormier because a pitcher can't benefit from an error that occured before he came into the game.

But against the Reds team ERA, they are unearned.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:10 PM
big out...good outing by pen. 4 1/3 innings pitched. no runs:thumbup:

MWM
08-02-2006, 11:10 PM
Well, I guess there goes "look at the Reds record since the trade"!

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Ethier grounds to BP.

Four shutout innings by the Bully tonight.
Maybe narron should use them more often.

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Freel.

He got it! He got it! What a brilliant play!

George Grande

I wish I could just mute GG.
I didn't hear that......??

StillFunkyB
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Time to score some runs boys.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Bullpen's done a heck of a job tonight....now let's go win this thing.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
We must have this game.

All throw your shirts on backwards, or something.

Lets go Reds. 3 runs wins this....

redsmetz
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Honesly, when an ump is all over the place like this guy has been, it's tough to lay off pitches like the one Junior swung at.

Not to mention it eliminates a pitcher being able to finesse pitches. You end up grooving them to get called strikes. When is MLB going to deal with this?

redsfan30
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Reds have the market corned on 9th inning excitement. Will it happen again tonight??

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Braves beat the Pirates 3 to 2. Their record now is 50-56.

redsmetz
08-02-2006, 11:12 PM
We must have this game.

All throw your shirts on backwards, or something.

Lets go Reds. 3 runs wins this....


I just put on my Rally Cap! Tucked in, bill straight up!

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:12 PM
I didn't hear that......??

I know you didn't hear that but I was 'hearing' it along with Albert Pujols is a brilliant player, jim edmonds another brilliant catch...blah, blah blah.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 11:12 PM
with the ump behind the plate the chances look very small

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:13 PM
Win expectancy down 2 bottom 9th 7.8%

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:13 PM
K's on a ball....at least a normal, conventional ball

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:14 PM
Reds have the market corned on 9th inning excitement. Will it happen again tonight??


After that at-bat....no

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 11:14 PM
Lets rally Reds.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:14 PM
EE Ks. Now 0 for last 11.

BoydsOfSummer
08-02-2006, 11:14 PM
Doug Eddings is the Ump in question by the way.

reds44
08-02-2006, 11:14 PM
Edwin is scuffling at the plate.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
Doug Eddings is the Ump in question by the way.

Doug Eddings stinks.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
Edwin is scuffling at the plate.

It is impossible to get anything going with his game starting schedule.

RedsMan3203
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
man... come'on boys.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
Utley batting now he is 0 for 3 tonight. His hitting streak in in jeopardy of ending the streak at 33.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
Full count to Hat.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:15 PM
This sucks.


I'm frustrated right now.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Hat Ks swinging.

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Well. Let's head for the exits.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Utley strikes out. He might get one more at bat.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
4 hits, 12 Ks tonight. Nice little Judy offense we have.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Was Hat cheated on the strikezone?

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
Utley strikes out. He might get one more at bat.

Pete's NL record will live forever....

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
I need a beer.

:thumbdown:

flyer85
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
Dodgers found a serious bat misser in Japan

BoydsOfSummer
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
god I hate the damn dodgers

Virginia Beach Reds
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
General Tsoas half price tomorrow at the local kitchen.

Evening.

reds44
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
Baseball sucks.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:17 PM
BP Ks. Game Over.


Blue Guys from out of town + Bad UMP:5
Nice Guys with no luck: 3

CTA513
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Perfect time to have a 4 game losing streak.

:thumbdown

oneupper
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Was Hat cheated on the strikezone?

Not on that last AB.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Was Hat cheated on the strikezone?

Not this time. one pitch was close, but that's about it. He was just fooled. Which does not happen a lot.

OldXOhio
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
That was one helluvan impressive B9th by the Reds. Generally, it's difficult to rally when you don't make contact.

redsrule2500
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Wow terrible. The Reds are doing absolutely terrible.

Starting Pitching just plain sucks.

Offense is disgusting.

Defense and Baserunning is terrible.

Bullpen is doing okay though... :(

DAMNIT.

redsmetz
08-02-2006, 11:19 PM
This sucks.


I'm frustrated right now.

I agree. We've got to snap out of this.

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