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reds44
08-02-2006, 05:55 PM
Rafael Furcal SS Season .281 6 37
Kenny Lofton CF Season .292 1 22
Julio Lugo 2B Season .250 0 0
J.D. Drew RF Season .279 11 59
Andre Ethier LF Season .342 10 41
Wilson Betemit 3B Season .293 10 31
Russell Martin C Season .296 5 45
James Loney 1B Season .271 0 4
Brad Penny P Season .214 0 2


Ryan Freel RF Season .301 7 21
Adam Dunn LF Season .263 32 73
Ken Griffey Jr. CF Season .240 21 58
Edwin Encarnacion 3B Season .286 7 43
Scott Hatteberg 1B Season .321 9 34
Brandon Phillips 2B Season .297 8 49
David Ross C Season .313 13 33
Royce Clayton SS Season .265 0 32
Elizardo Ramirez P Season .160 0 2


At least Edwin is playing.

BRM
08-02-2006, 05:56 PM
Nice lineup. Well, close enough anyway.

:beerme:

dsmith421
08-02-2006, 05:59 PM
We need this one. Bad.

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 05:59 PM
I dont get Narron. If Edwin has a bat good enough to hit clean up when he actually plays, shouldnt his bat be good enough to play every day?

Glad Edwin gets to play today. Lets go Reds!

Cyclone792
08-02-2006, 06:00 PM
I'm hoping Encarnacion has a game that matches what Ty Cobb did on May 5th, 1925. Maybe, just maybe, a performance like that would help generate future starts.

BTW, on that day, all Cobb did was go 6-6 with 16 total bases, hitting three home runs, a double and two singles.

Hooray for EE!

BRM
08-02-2006, 06:02 PM
Adam Dunn is 1 for 16 in his career against Penny. Griffey is 7 for 19 with 2 homers.

Puffy
08-02-2006, 06:03 PM
Wow, Clayton in there again - I thought for sure it would be Castro tonight.

Hmmmmm

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 06:04 PM
well it is time to change it if there ever has been a time. Dunn has been on fire, and Penny, well he hasnt been lately.

traderumor
08-02-2006, 06:04 PM
So, Clayton not playing the game the right way since he came over has absolutely no bearing on his playing time. Interesting how that stupid little saying of Narron's has no meaning, apparently.

VR
08-02-2006, 06:06 PM
I'm looking forward to the mash that Ross applies to Penny's fastball.

westofyou
08-02-2006, 06:06 PM
If Edwin has a bat good enough to hit clean up when he actually plays, shouldnt his bat be good enough to play every day?

RH bat with pop to split up two lefties, that's how Narron uses #4.

.267/.352/.504/.856 (62 rbi's) from the Reds #4 guys this year, .247/.316/.517/.833 from #3 (85 rbi's)

knuckler
08-02-2006, 06:06 PM
I dont get Narron. If Edwin has a bat good enough to hit clean up when he actually plays, shouldnt his bat be good enough to play every day?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I still don't get why Clayton is starting over Castro. And I can't believe I am actually WISHING they'd give the regular starting shortstop job to a guy with Castro's bat.

I also don't get why Ross is automatically stuck at the end of the lineup. What does the guy have to do to move higher in the order? Is Narron just convinced his entire season has been a fluke that is due to regress to the mean at any moment?

Here's hoping last night's debacle jolts the Reds into a streak of hard-nosed, winning baseball.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Clayton is mistake that is not going to be admitted, much to the detriment of the team.

Puffy
08-02-2006, 06:09 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing.

I still don't get why Clayton is starting over Castro. And I can't believe I am actually WISHING they'd give the regular starting shortstop job to a guy with Castro's bat.

I also don't get why Ross is automatically stuck at the end of the lineup. What does the guy have to do to move higher in the order? Is Narron just convinced his entire season has been a fluke that is due to regress to the mean at any moment?

Here's hoping last night's debacle jolts the Reds into a streak of hard-nosed, winning baseball.

Dude - catchers bat either 7th or 8th. Geez, its right on page 2 of An Idiot's Guide to Managing.

Spring~Fields
08-02-2006, 06:10 PM
So, Clayton not playing the game the right way since he came over has absolutely no bearing on his playing time. Interesting how that stupid little saying of Narron's has no meaning, apparently.

You noticed that inconsistency in his managerial or leadership style also.;)

westofyou
08-02-2006, 06:10 PM
I also don't get why Ross is automatically stuck at the end of the lineup. What does the guy have to do to move higher in the order? Is Narron just convinced his entire season has been a fluke that is due to regress to the mean at any moment?



He might be feasting down there too, less pressure, more fastballs.

He's killing his PECOTA

Dave Ross .313/.380/.695

90% .258/.325/.464

Ross is killing his projection, prior to the year BP had this to say about him


Ross will have to step it up to guarantee himself a roster spot that comes with major league meal money. Hes got enough pop to do it, and can be useful if he can ever top .240.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 06:12 PM
He's killing his PECOTA

Dave Ross .313/.380/.695

90% .258/.325/.464

Ross is killing his projection, prior to the year BP had this to say about himRoss isn't the only one

dsmith421
08-02-2006, 06:15 PM
Is Narron just convinced his entire season has been a fluke that is due to regress to the mean at any moment?

I don't think "Baseball Guy" has any idea what regression to the mean (...erm...) means. I think he bats Ross 7th or 8th because, as noted, that's where the catcher bats.

Hell, at least it's not Miley batting Castro second because the shortstop always bats second. (Yes, Dave, when the shortstop's name is Barry Larkin, he does.)

traderumor
08-02-2006, 06:16 PM
You noticed that inconsistency in his managerial or leadership style also.;)When the only things he brought to the table is making the routine play and he fails to do that, and he continues to play...:bang:

westofyou
08-02-2006, 06:18 PM
Ross isn't the only one
Hattberg has lapped his 90% too.... Griffey is at 15%

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 06:31 PM
Clayton's going deep.











Ok..maybe not ;)

KronoRed
08-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Good stuff 1-7 and 9

RBA
08-02-2006, 06:54 PM
RBA's Fearless Prediction for tonight's game:

Chris Denorfia will pinch run tonight!

Bet on it and put it in the bank!

redsmetz
08-02-2006, 07:00 PM
I can't believe EE's playing and Rich is sitting and what the heck is Jerry Narron thinking batting Royce in the 8 spot? What an idiot. :D

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:08 PM
Just so I don't get accused of being negative, I'm going to pray a little before this one:

Please just play well this evening Reds. I actually dislike it when you play poorly. So play well. Go all out. Give not only effort but demonstrate skill when you are able. Swagger. Be confident. Realize that it's the bloodless Dodgers that you are facing and not the Cardinals or Brewers. And most of all, win. That's why I follow the game--to see a win. Not to be embarrassed. To see a win. I want the Dodgers to leave town with two losses, wondering if they are still in it. I want to win. Win.

Win.

That is all. I feel better. Now I'm ready to be sweet as sweet potato pie!!!!

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:10 PM
Just so I don't get accused of being negative,


That's a given :D

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:12 PM
GG:

"The fans in leftield are getting baked."


:lol:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:13 PM
GG:

"The fans in leftield are getting baked."


:lol:


Nice wording there, George

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/nevadamarijuana.jpg

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Ez K!

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Ramirez Ks Ur-turd. 1 out.

Spitball
08-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Right or wrong, I'm sure Narron wants to show Clayton he still has condidence in him. Players can have offensive and defensive slumps. Playing is the way to work through a slump. Just sayin'.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Right or wrong, I'm sure Narron wants to show Clayton he still has condidence in him. Players can have offensive and defensive slumps. Playing is the way to work through a slump. Just sayin'.


See Griffey, Ken ;)

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:15 PM
Kenny likes his meat raw, not baked. 2 out.

KronoRed
08-02-2006, 07:16 PM
GG:

"The fans in leftield are getting baked."


:lol:
Dude.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:17 PM
Lugo looks like someone. Now I remember, a wife beater. Ramirez dislikes wife-beaters (shirts and people). Ks him. Nice neat lil half-inning. No score.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:17 PM
Ez

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:18 PM
EZ K!

EZ inning.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 07:19 PM
Reds44 can you do the pbp?

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:20 PM
Reds44 can you do the pbp?
FCB is doing a fine job of it right now.

GAC
08-02-2006, 07:20 PM
He might be feasting down there too, less pressure, more fastballs.

He's killing his PECOTA

Dave Ross .313/.380/.695

90% .258/.325/.464

Ross is killing his projection, prior to the year BP had this to say about him

Very astute observation. Move him up in the order, and I'd garner to say, looking at his performance historically, he wouldn't be putting up those numbers.

And where does he bat in the upper part of the order? In place of who?

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:20 PM
Good lord, Brad Penny looks like he just got picked up on a three-state killing spree.

Check out his MLB.com photo.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:21 PM
Freel singles. He can run on Martin, no?

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 07:22 PM
Thanks Fall City Beer. The typing of you and Reds44 was ahead of my pbp request. :0

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:22 PM
Penny missing in the early going. Control issues.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Penny missing in the early going. Control issues.

That's good. He's like Zambrano in the respect...he gets riled up and loses his cool when he's off...

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Freel's hurt....

KittyDuran
08-02-2006, 07:25 PM
Freel gets caught stealing...

ochre
08-02-2006, 07:25 PM
It's nice to have a Batting average driven guy down low in the lineup to cleanup before the pitcher's spot.

Spitball
08-02-2006, 07:26 PM
Good lord, Brad Penny looks like he just got picked up on a three-state killing spree.

Check out his MLB.com photo.

He looks like he just got through with a three-state eating spree.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 07:26 PM
It is just me or does Freel get picked off or caught stealing every game? Sure seems that way as of late. I love the guy's ability to get on base, though.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 07:27 PM
How did Freel get hurt?

westofyou
08-02-2006, 07:27 PM
It is just me or does Freel get picked off or caught stealing every game? Sure seems that way as of late. I love the guy's ability to get on base, though.
2 since the AS Game.

CrackerJack
08-02-2006, 07:28 PM
He looks like he just got through with a three-state eating spree.


Hehe, was gonna say, haven't seen him in a while, thought he used to be clean cut and svelt.

Now he looks like he should be sitting on the couch eating nachos and watching the game.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:28 PM
How did Freel get hurt?

Looked like he caught a knee to the shoulder sliding into second.

Looks like he'll be ok.

Falls City Beer
08-02-2006, 07:28 PM
Can't do play-by-play, guys. I'm going to be out and around tonight.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 07:28 PM
2 since the AS Game.

Pickoffs or CS?

westofyou
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Pickoffs or CS?
CS

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Can't do play-by-play, guys. I'm going to be out and around tonight.

have fun!

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Looked like he caught a knee to the shoulder sliding into second.

Looks like he'll be ok.
I don't think it was a knee or his shoulder. I thought it was his face. He was bleeding whatecer happend.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:30 PM
I don't think it was a knee or his shoulder. I thought it was his face. He was bleeding whatecer happend.

Maybe it's all of them!

Scrappiness can cause pain

GAC
08-02-2006, 07:32 PM
It is just me or does Freel get picked off or caught stealing every game? Sure seems that way as of late. I love the guy's ability to get on base, though.

It's his ability to get off base that bothers some.

Reckless? ;)

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:32 PM
Drew Ks
Whoever the 2nd guy was grounded out

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 07:33 PM
EZ is looking very good tonight so far!

CrackerJack
08-02-2006, 07:34 PM
The lizard king is movin' and groovin'

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Hopefully Freel is not hurt to bad. Did he stay in the game?

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:37 PM
Hopefully Freel is not hurt to bad. Did he stay in the game?

He's in there

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 07:38 PM
Thats great news. Thanks Matt.

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 07:39 PM
Freel hit his nose on the base, and had a bit of a nose bleed.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:40 PM
Freel hit his nose on the base, and had a bit of a nose bleed.

I'm sure his eyes watered to.

I hate that.

Spitball
08-02-2006, 07:41 PM
I'm sure his eyes watered to.

I hate that.

:laugh:

GAC
08-02-2006, 07:44 PM
The lizard king is movin' and groovin'

Lizard King.... I like that!

As long as he doesn't break into.... When The Musics Over, or..... "This is the end, my lonesome friend the end." ;)

CrackerJack
08-02-2006, 07:45 PM
Nice play EE - who needs Aurillia?

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 07:46 PM
6 steps to his left to make that play by Edwin. Rich only dreams of taking 6 steps to his side and still getting a ball.

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:46 PM
Edwin has a TON of range.

Great play

RBA
08-02-2006, 07:46 PM
EE scoops a ball that RA stood as a statue on yesterday. GREAT PLAY!

CrackerJack
08-02-2006, 07:47 PM
Lizard King.... I like that!

As long as he doesn't break into.... When The Musics Over, or..... "This is the end, my lonesome friend the end." ;)

Nope, hopefully more like Break On Through or Take It As It Comes....:beerme:

RBA
08-02-2006, 07:49 PM
Chat is open for those who deal in real time and not the past. ;)

http://www.redszone.com/forums/FlashChat/flashchat.php

westofyou
08-02-2006, 07:49 PM
Nope, hopefully more like Break On Through or Take It As It Comes....:beerme:
I hope he doesn't think he can petition the lord with prayer.

CrackerJack
08-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Penny said "Cmon Lizzy light my fire"

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Dang it, I think I jinxed EZ.

CTA513
08-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Note to Ramirez: you dont have to throw a fastball right down the middle to the pitcher.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 07:51 PM
Stupid pitch by Ramirez. Threw it right over the middle to Penny. This team is fading fast. They should have swept this Dodger team.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:52 PM
Stupid pitch by Ramirez. Threw it right over the middle to Penny. This team is fading fast. They should have swept this Dodger team.


Do you say this every game?

Joseph
08-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Does Griffey look S.L.O.W. tonight?

westofyou
08-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Watching Griffey run in the outfield makes my legs hurt.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Settle down EZ...settle down.

It's the illusive one inning issue again...

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Does Griffey look S.L.O.W. tonight?

Sadly, he has for a while now

reds44
08-02-2006, 07:54 PM
My God Griffey is terrible.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 07:54 PM
it ain't looookin gooood

GAC
08-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Do you say this every game?

Yes he does. The guy is no Nostradamus. :lol:

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Note to Ramirez: you dont have to throw a fastball right down the middle to the pitcher.
It was a curveball.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 07:54 PM
For those needing pbp:

Penny doubles to center, scoring Loney
Furcal singles up the middle. Penny scores. Furcal to second on the throw (poor)
Lofton triples to center.

3-0 Blue Men

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Do you say this every game?

Must you complain about every comment that doesn't blow sunshine up the Reds arse?

CTA513
08-02-2006, 07:55 PM
It seems like the Reds have been giving up alot of runs in 1 inning lately.

:help:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:56 PM
Must you complain about every comment that doesn't blow sunshine up the Reds arse?

:lol:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:56 PM
It seems like the Reds have been giving up alot of runs in 1 inning lately.

:help:

It is perplexing

flyer85
08-02-2006, 07:58 PM
game is just about ... over

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:58 PM
This came out of nowhere...

it's amazing.

CTA513
08-02-2006, 07:58 PM
Penny might get a chance to bat twice in this inning.

BRM
08-02-2006, 07:59 PM
Were Penny and Lofton's hits shots or should Griffey have got to them?

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 07:59 PM
My God Griffey is terrible.
I dont think any CF would have gotten to any of those balls.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 07:59 PM
the Dodgers look like a much better overall team

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 07:59 PM
I dont think any CF would have gotten to any of those balls.


Just one... ;)

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:00 PM
should Griffey have got to them?no

westofyou
08-02-2006, 08:00 PM
I dont think any CF would have gotten to any of those balls.
Maybe gotten there quicker, but probably not catch them.

But seriously the man looks like he's running in soft cheese.

BRM
08-02-2006, 08:00 PM
no

Thanks.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Updating pbp:

Lugo walks
Drew singles, scoring Lofton
Ethier lines out to Griffey

Joseph
08-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Were Penny and Lofton's hits shots or should Griffey have got to them?

He shouldn't have caught them, but to me it appeared he just trotted to them rather than running to them.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:02 PM
Betemit out on a slow roller to Clayton

mid 3rd
4-0 Blue Guys

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:03 PM
Betemit out on a slow roller to Clayton
what a nice routine play

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 08:03 PM
the Dodgers look like a much better overall team

That tends to happen when you are winning 4-0.

They certainly haven't shown it during the last 100 games or so.

All these 10 or so wild card teams go from looking real good to real bad, often in the same game.

BRM
08-02-2006, 08:04 PM
what a nice routine play

He always makes those you know.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Our boy's up

;)

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:05 PM
Even before the AS break, I was more worried about the starters than the bullpen. I just didn't see how they could keep up the pace they were on. It's looking like the starting staff could be the achilles heel that winds up costing the Reds down the stretch. Hopefully Arroyo can regain his form and Elizardo can somehow manage to avoid the inevitable downfall that usually accompanies a 23 year old pitching this many innings for the first time in their career. But I fear that the odds are too strong to overcome.

VR
08-02-2006, 08:06 PM
I just caught up on tivo....for a second I thought Cecil Fielder was playing center for the Reds on Furcal's grounder.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:06 PM
This would be a good time for some runs...

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:08 PM
Even before the AS break, I was more worried about the starters than the bullpen. I just didn't see how they could keep up the pace they were on. It's looking like the starting staff could be the achilles heel that winds up costing the Reds down the stretch. Hopefully Arroyo can regain his form and Elizardo can somehow manage to avoid the inevitable downfall that usually accompanies a 23 year old pitching this many innings for the first time in their career. But I fear that the odds are too strong to overcome.

Compare Starters 3-5 ERA to Bullpen ERA and it's obvious that the more pressing need was the former.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:08 PM
Anyone need pbp?

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:10 PM
Dodgers can't win anything anyway, their SS can't make the routine play. Leads the NL in errors too.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the pbp oneupper. How hard have the hits been against the Lizzard.

reds44
08-02-2006, 08:10 PM
Did Freel foul that off his cup?

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:11 PM
Did Freel foul that off his cup?

If so, that's 2 head injuries tonight...

reds44
08-02-2006, 08:12 PM
If so, that's 2 head injuries tonight...
:laugh:

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Thanks for the pbp oneupper. How hard have the hits ben against the Lizzard.

Lots of long flies to the gaps...he's been hit.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Couldn't score.

Sad.

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Compare Starters 3-5 ERA to Bullpen ERA and it's obvious that the more pressing need was the former.
My biggest problem with the overkill of fixing the bullpen after getting Maj, Bray and Guardado. SS and SP were left completely untouched and the early returns are not good.

At least Lohse is starting Saturday. In a totally unrelated topic, they just announced it is Reds Hard Hat Day at the ballpark for all fans in the outfield.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Bottom 3RD B:1 S:2 O:0
Royce Clayton reaches on throwing error by shortstop Rafael Furcal.

Bottom 3RD B:1 S:0 O:1
Elizardo Ramirez out on a sacrifice bunt, pitcher Brad Penny to second baseman Julio Lugo. Royce Clayton to 2nd.

Bottom 3RD B:3 S:2 O:2
Ryan Freel flies out to right fielder J. D. Drew. Royce Clayton to 3rd.

Bottom 3RD B:0 S:3 O:3
Adam Dunn called out on strikes.

RedLegSuperStar
08-02-2006, 08:14 PM
If so, that's 2 head injuries tonight...

:bang: :help: :bang:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Phillies 1

Cards 0

redsrule2500
08-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Our starting pitchers are now returning to career norms.

We are screwed.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:17 PM
could it be "deja vu all over again"?

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Another walk....

It's amazing how fast Reds pitchers can fall apart.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Top 4TH B:0 S:0 O:1
Russell Martin grounds out, third baseman Edwin Encarnacion to first baseman Scott Hatteberg.

Top 4TH B:4 S:1 O:1
James Loney walks.

Let Penny bunt this time, OK?

RedLegSuperStar
08-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Our starting pitchers are now returning to career norms.

We are screwed.

55 more games left.. St. Louis has Weaver remember?

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:18 PM
Well as a diversion the Miss america pagent is on now on the country music Tv or CMT for short. They are having the pagent in Las Vegas and getting ready to do the Swimsuit competition.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:18 PM
55 more games left.. St. Louis has Weaver remember?and the Reds hav chopped liver

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 08:19 PM
and the Reds hav chopped liver
Lohse's new nickname?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:19 PM
Top 4TH B:1 S:3 O:2
Brad Penny called out on strikes.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:22 PM
Hopefully Lizzard settles down and can give us more innings. What is his pitch count so far?

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:22 PM
Better, EZ...better.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:23 PM
Rafael Furcal grounds out softly, pitcher Elizardo Ramirez to first baseman Scott Hatteberg.

Bums 4-0

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Hopefully Lizzard settles down and can give us more innings. What is his pitch count so far?

Lizzard up to 80 pitches through 4.

If he comes up to hit the 5th...gotta go for the runs (PH)

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:25 PM
:griffey:

:jump:

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Jr's first HR since '98...doesn't it feel that way?

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Griffey owns Brad Penny for the most part

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Griffey kills one. 4-1

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 08:26 PM
Jr's first HR since '98...doesn't it feel that way?
Griffey has 3 HR this last week.....

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:26 PM
That's 3 HR in 4 games for Junior. It would be huge for this team for him to start hitting again.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:27 PM
:jump:

dougdirt
08-02-2006, 08:27 PM
Hatteberg goes deep!

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:27 PM
Good job Junior we needed that Run.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 08:28 PM
That's 3 HR in 4 games for Junior. It would be huge for this team for him to start hitting again.

Indeed.

Nice shot by Hatteberg.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:28 PM
WTG Hat with a Homerun.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:29 PM
points out this team really needs another LH bat. Lopez's bat from that side of the plate is missed.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:30 PM
Phillips Ks looking awful.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:31 PM
Phillips Ks looking awful.

97 mph heaters will do that

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Pitch 1 - Foul
Pitch 2 - Foul
Pitch 3 - Swinging Strike

David Ross strikes out swinging.

Reds get a couple back. 4-2 after 4

VR
08-02-2006, 08:33 PM
Phillips Ks looking awful.

I think he was peeved at that call on strike two. It was 6 inches high and inside. :(

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:34 PM
Good job Oneupper. Do you think this is the last inning for the Lizzard?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Good job Oneupper. Do you think this is the last inning for the Lizzard?

I'd say so, hopefully he gets out unscathed.

Loften grounds out to Phillips. One out.

Puffy
08-02-2006, 08:35 PM
That's 3 HR in 4 games for Junior. It would be huge for this team for him to start hitting again.

Junior isn't a good player though. I just found that out. He sux.

VR
08-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Phils have 2nd and 3rd w/ 0 outs in the top of the 2nd in StL.
Go Weaver.

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:36 PM
Junior isn't a good player though. I just found that out. He sux.

He's OK, but ED has high standars with his love affair with Jason Lane and all.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:36 PM
Junior isn't a good player though. I just found that out. He sux.

He starts hitting and we start losing....it sucks:bang:

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:38 PM
Lugo walks on a full count.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:38 PM
EZ at 95 pitches.

VR
08-02-2006, 08:39 PM
Junior isn't a good player though. I just found that out. He sux.

His .680 OPS at home this year is perplexing. .201/.261/.421

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:39 PM
Dodger real patient...kind of like the REDS used to be.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:39 PM
EZ getting a bit squeezed...

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 08:40 PM
He's OK, but ED has high standars with his love affair with Jason Lane and all.
Me?

VR
08-02-2006, 08:40 PM
Weaver gives up the 2 run single. 3-0 Phils w/ Utley/ Howard comin up.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:40 PM
ER should have ran at the runner...steal on him

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:41 PM
No, not you.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:41 PM
EZ catches Lugo off first. Lugo runs to second as Hat double pumps.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:42 PM
Drew Ks on a full count change.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:42 PM
If the Dodgers bats heat up in August, their pitching is good enough to do some damage in the West. Lets hope they win the west....one less team to compete against in the wild card.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:44 PM
Either doubles over Griffeys head. 5-2 Bums.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:44 PM
over 100 pitches, 95 degrees....needed to make a move.... 5-2, to little to late for narron

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:44 PM
No...Deno wouldn't have had it.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:44 PM
*sigh*

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:45 PM
I was at the Twins game today and Boof Bonzer was getting demolished by the Rangers. I had great seats so it was very easy to tell that these guys were stting back and teeing off. He wasn't fooling anyone. The pitching coach came out a few times, but he stayed in the game. It was a head scratcher, but he stayed in clear until he got out of the 4th (where he gave up 5 runs). It was a good example of a manager waiting until the game was out of reach until he finally pulled his pitcher when it wasn't late in the game. I'm not suggesting Narron did this tonight, but it helped confirm the notion that Jerry's not really any different than most ML managers. They all pretty much do the same things most of the time.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:45 PM
Standridge in. will bat 9th.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:47 PM
Sub-par outing for EZ.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:47 PM
As we thought in April...our starting pitching will make or break us...

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:48 PM
Standridge lead off walk...

:bang:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:48 PM
Hey Reds...the Cardinals are trying to give you the division....get your crap together!

PuffyPig
08-02-2006, 08:48 PM
On the good news front, Cards down 5-0.

Weaver is bad, Joe Mays bad.

There, I said it.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:48 PM
one more run and this might be out of reach...

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:48 PM
Betemit Walks.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:50 PM
Hey Reds...the Cardinals are trying to give you the division....get your crap together!

Really for the past month, when we lose the Cards lose, when we win the cards win...it's depressing..

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:51 PM
:bang: :bang:

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:51 PM
This pen is in hospice...

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:51 PM
Martin walks. Bases Loaded.

Puffy
08-02-2006, 08:52 PM
Hey Matt - congrats on 10,000 posts!

:thumbup:

flyer85
08-02-2006, 08:52 PM
time for another change

M2
08-02-2006, 08:53 PM
This pen is in hospice...

Great line.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:53 PM
Loney K's 5-2 Brooklyn mid 5th.

KronoRed
08-02-2006, 08:55 PM
If the Dodgers still played in Brooklyn I might like them better

But..they do not..so they must be smited

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:55 PM
In Stl

Duncan homers. Phi up 5-2.

MrCinatit
08-02-2006, 08:55 PM
I just woke up.

I should have stayed in bed.

M2
08-02-2006, 08:56 PM
Loney just had as bad an at-bat as you will ever witness.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:56 PM
Awful strike 2 call on RC.

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 08:56 PM
How bad was Loney fooled?

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
THe REds have had 3 losing streaks this year of 5 or more games.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
RC grounds out to second. One out.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
LaRue hits for Standridge.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
Hey Matt - congrats on 10,000 posts!

:thumbup:


Thanks...



10,000 posts...is that good or bad? :D

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
"Tom Cruise use your witchcraft to remove Clayton form the starting line-up"

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
I'm following on CBS, is Stanridge really hitting?

MWM
08-02-2006, 08:58 PM
Guess not.

KronoRed
08-02-2006, 08:58 PM
Thanks...



10,000 posts...is that good or bad? :D
The more posts the better :cool:

oneupper
08-02-2006, 08:58 PM
LaRue grounds out to third. Two down.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 08:59 PM
Thanks...



10,000 posts...is that good or bad? :D

It means you really don't have a life....:laugh:

Tommyjohn25
08-02-2006, 08:59 PM
My god Larue is having a terrible season.

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 09:00 PM
It means you really don't have a life....:laugh:

I live for this

redsrule2500
08-02-2006, 09:01 PM
Our offense......MIA!

oneupper
08-02-2006, 09:01 PM
Freel walks on a ball thrown at his head.

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 09:02 PM
The Dodgers have a great lineup...I'm not being facetious.

Every hitter has a great at-bat like the one Freel just had.

George Foster
08-02-2006, 09:02 PM
I really got lucky for tickets on Sat. It's a day game and tickets were sold out on the Reds ticket site, except for diamond seats. I got back on line late last night and wow...got 2 club seats for ticket price! They are going for over $100 on the ticket broker web sites.!!

George Foster
08-02-2006, 09:03 PM
I live for this

me to...I'll have 10K posts by next year I'd say

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 09:04 PM
Dunn needs to make this a 5-4 game right here.

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 09:04 PM
Good at-bat by Dunn, too.

Cyclone792
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Well, we have 13 outs remaining to get at least three runs, and unfortunately I have much less confidence in our ability to do that now than I did a month ago. Here's why ...

Average runs per game before the All-Star Break 5.04
Average runs per game after the All-Star Break 4.53

Average runs allowed before the All-Star Break 5.20
Average runs allowed after the All-Star Break 4.76

Since the All-Star break, the Reds had scored 77 runs while giving up 81 runs (not including tonight). It's a small sample size, but it's interesting to note that the pythag winning percentage for those run totals is .477. Over a full season, that's a 77-85 record.

Of course I like the fact that we've been giving up fewer runs (well, until last night and possibly again tonight), but I'll be honest: I'm worried about the offense now. It is true that Griffey had an unusually lousy month, but on the flip side Dunn had an outstanding month so you'd have to think those two may just cancel each other out.

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Should they quit sending Freel?

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
I'm starting to get the feeling that Homer will be up here before long. Once Lohse puts one of these on the board on Saturday, he'll be on a plane.

http://www.fema.gov/kids/games/snowman/snowman.gif

George Foster
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
What is Penny's pitch count?

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Should they quit sending Freel?
W/o a doubt. Or should Freel stop sending himself?

redsrule2500
08-02-2006, 09:05 PM
I really got lucky for tickets on Sat. It's a day game and tickets were sold out on the Reds ticket site, except for diamond seats. I got back on line late last night and wow...got 2 club seats for ticket price! They are going for over $100 on the ticket broker web sites.!!

Don't forget....SUPER SCROLLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.pinshot.com/images/METS%20Scrolls%20Fans.jpg

George Foster
08-02-2006, 09:06 PM
That is not the homeplate umps call....2 bad calls in 2 games...

Gallen5862
08-02-2006, 09:06 PM
What happened during Dunns atbat. Was Freel picked off or Caught stealing?

oneupper
08-02-2006, 09:06 PM
Now that is ridiculous.

Freel picked off first on appeal by the home plate ump.

reds44
08-02-2006, 09:07 PM
Freel could be the dumbest baseball player in the history of baseball.

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 09:07 PM
Should they quit sending Freel?

Guess they should have quit sending him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Matt700wlw
08-02-2006, 09:07 PM
good lord.

OnBaseMachine
08-02-2006, 09:08 PM
I've never seen a team get picked off more than this team. Ridiculous.

MWM
08-02-2006, 09:08 PM
Freel's baserunning gaffes have gotten quite ridiculous. It's moved beyond a few anomlaies to have become a real problem.

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 09:08 PM
Freel was picked off....he seemed to stumble getting back to the base and Penny really got a good pick off throw.

The 1st base umpire.....checked with HP to see if time had been called by him.

It had not.


Freel is LEGALLY BLONDE.

reds44
08-02-2006, 09:08 PM
Freel makes an error last night and 2 baserunning blunders tonight.

He needs to have a nice sit on the bench tomorrow.

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
Weathers in. Nice.

oneupper
08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
Freel Picked Off. Penny at 92 pitches.

After 5:

"Those who should be smited": 5
"Those who should smite them": 2

Eric_Davis
08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
What happened during Dunns atbat. Was Freel picked off or Caught stealing?

Pitch 1 - Foul
Pitch 2 - Swinging Strike
Pitch 3 - Ball
Pitch 4 - Foul
Pitch 5 - Foul (runner going)
Pitch 6 - Foul
Pitch 7 - Foul (runner going)
Pitch 8 - Pickoff Attempt 1B

KronoRed
08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
Stand on the base for awhile Ryan

flyer85
08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
Freel Bonehead Quotient is rising fast

Tony Cloninger
08-02-2006, 09:10 PM
That was a good AB by Dunn too....and with Griffey coming up....man, what is Freel's deal?

George Foster
08-02-2006, 09:10 PM
Freel was picked off....he seemed to stumble getting back to the base and Penny really got a good pick off throw.

The 1st base umpire.....checked with HP to see if time had been called by him.

It had not.


Freel is LEGALLY BLONDE.

to get picked off 1st with the best power hitter on your team up with 2 outs, is unexcusable

oneupper
08-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Weathers in.

Penny grounds out on a slow roller to EE.

paintmered
08-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Chat is open!!!

MWM
08-02-2006, 09:11 PM
The silver lining is that Dunn had an 1-2 count and now he'll lead off the inning.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Gettin on base doesn't help much if you get picked off or caught stealing, especially in front of the HR hitters

edabbs44
08-02-2006, 09:12 PM
Just when you think Freel is really asserting himself as an everyday player, he has a game like this. Not good.