Game Thread Reds vs. Cardinals - 8/9/06

[EKURed]

Lineups...

CARDINALS

Eckstein SS
Duncan LF
Pujols 1b
Rolen 3b
Edmonds CF
Encarnacion RF
Belliard 2b
Molina C
Carpenter P

REDS

Freel RF
Hatteberg 1b
Griffey CF
Encarnacion 3b
Dunn LF
Phillips 2b
Clayton SS
Larue C
Harang P

[penantboundreds]

i just would like to see clayton out of the lineup....but i like this lineup

[goreds2]

We will be down 2 1/2 after tonights game.

EE batting 4th.........:thumbup:

[fisch11]

Harang to Carpenter, "I challenge you Sir, to a duel."

[MaineRed]

What a game between these two last time. I was driving to a vacation location, hoping to kill 3-4 hours listening to that game, killing time while driving. Instead the 1-0 gem by Harrang probably didn't go much more than 2.

Oh well, the win made up for those two hours I lost.

[keeganbrick]

Wheres Hollandsworth?

WTF!!!!

[KronoRed]

Wheres Hollandsworth?

WTF!!!!
On the bench where he belongs

[Redhook]

i just would like to see clayton out of the lineup....but i like this lineup

Me too, but as long as EE is in the lineup I'm not too disappointed with Clayton in there.

[cincyreds06]

Where is that chat at last night..The flash chat!!

[keeganbrick]

Baseball tonight just said they were going to show like the top 3 web gems in Cincy history. Going to have to "catch" that segment of the show.

[killuminati35]

Infield hit by Eckstein.

[fisch11]

Eckstein infield single deep in the hole to Clayton. Almost made a nice play to get him but the throw was high.

[killuminati35]

1st and 2nd nobody out. Duncan singles up the middle.

[fisch11]

Duncan singles to center. Trouble brewing in the 1st. Pujols up...

[killuminati35]

Where was that pitch?

[killuminati35]

Clayton booted a weak groundball by Pujols.

[Redlegs23]

And that is why I would rather see Castro at short on a daily basis.

[fisch11]

Ugghhh....

[keeganbrick]

Jesus, 2 runners this inning because of Clayton.

[Redsfan08]

Clayton:bang:

[fisch11]

Good time for a K here, Aaron.

[killuminati35]

0-2. come on

[killuminati35]

Nice pitch. Swinging K on Rolen. 1 out

[fisch11]

Thank you. Ground ball now, please.

[killuminati35]

4-0 Cardinals. Grand slam, Edmonds.

[Redsfan08]

should be 3-0 but clayton just had to drop the ball

[Redlegs23]

The way George was praising Edmonds I knew he'd pull something out. Looks like another lopsided start.

[killuminati35]

Not good with Carpenter on the hill for the Cards.

If Clayton could make a play or two, this would be totally different.

[keeganbrick]

Thank you Royce Clayton. If Castro was starting it would be 0-0. Harang's confidence is now shot, his ERA is shot, the game is shot. NARRON wake up, PLAY CASTRO.

[fisch11]

So much for the duel I guess....I hope we bring our sticks out again tonight.

[killuminati35]

4-3, Freel grounds out.

[Redsfan08]

lets go offense

[killuminati35]

Hatteberg strikes out swinging.

[wojo1025]

I'm sorry, but I blame LaRue as much as I do Clayton. I absolutely hate the way he calls games. I guess they run Harang out there with LaRue because they figure his good pitching will make up for LaRue's poor pitch selection. Anyway, enough of my rant, let's get the come back started

[fisch11]

Taking the mound with a 4 run lead can let you be aggresive I guess.

[killuminati35]

Carpenter looks sharp, Griffey Ks looking.

Why the hell does Larue get so much playing time anyway?

[fisch11]

Carpenter has his back door breaking ball on.....not good.

[fearofpopvol1]

You can blame Royce all you want. Yeah, he sucks and shouldn't have committed the error...but you can't give up a grand slam as Harrang. Not with Carp on the mound.

[keeganbrick]

This pisses me off so bad. With Carpenter pitching our odds are horrible at even making a game out of this. We cant even get out of the first inning again because of bad defense. We traded Lopez so we could get an upgrade at defense but Narron continues to run Clayton out there every day. The only playing time Castro gets is replacing EE late in the game. This just gets so frustating....................

[killuminati35]

Molina pops out to Freel. 1 out.

[killuminati35]

Carpenter singles up the middle.

He was hitting .071.

[killuminati35]

Eckstein flies out Freel. 2 down.

[killuminati35]

Clayton knocks the ball down to step on 2nd to end the inning.

Clayton. ugh.

[fisch11]

Let's chip away now....we've got to get some runs back quick.

[killuminati35]

Yeah, a run or two here would be nice.

[killuminati35]

EE flies out to Duncan. 1 down.

[killuminati35]

Dunn hits a blast. Let's keep it going.

[GOREDSGO32]

What is with this freaking team and games being put out of reach in the FIRST inning? I leave for a few minutes, and come back, the games already half over down 4-0 barring a major comeback, on the way to another loss.

HR Adam Dunn. At least he's earning his pay unlike most of this team.

[wojo1025]

Rally KIller

[keeganbrick]

HR Dunner.

Watch as these next few innings go by. I do not want to see us swinging at the first pitch, fast ball or not.

[fisch11]

3 run game now.....chip away I say!

[Redsfan08]

:jump: Dunn

[killuminati35]

What is with Phillips showing bunt so much lately? Swing the bat!

[killuminati35]

Maybe he should have bunted. BP weakly grounds out to Carp.

[Redsfan08]

What is with Phillips showing bunt so much lately? Swing the bat!

thats what happens when he swings the bat:thumbdown

[fisch11]

It's a great sign to see Dunn waiting on that off speed, going with it and driving it out for an OPPOSITE field HR.

[killuminati35]

Rolen shows Clayton what its like to make a nice play.

[keeganbrick]

Rolen shows Clayton what its like to make a nice play.
How bout Rolen shows Clayton what its like to make a routine play.

[fearofpopvol1]

See what happens when you're patient? The Reds got almost 20 pitches out of Carpenter that inning. They need more of that.

[Always Red]

Rally KIller
:laugh:

I didn't know you came to Redszone, Chris!

[killuminati35]

How bout Rolen shows Clayton what its like to make a routine play.


Yeah, it was rather routine, but it still was a nice backhanded grab.

Either way, Royce can't do it.

[killuminati35]

Harang has had Pujols out in front in both at bats so far.

[keeganbrick]

See what happens when you're patient? The Reds got almost 20 pitches out of Carpenter that inning. They need more of that.
Yea, we always swing at the first pitch and griffey is the worst. Im keeping track of how many of us swing at the first pitch while we are still down by more than 1.

[killuminati35]

ugh. I think EE could have had that ball.

[Redsfan08]

off the glove of edwin of course:thumbdown

[fisch11]

EE usually gloves that.

[killuminati35]

Rolen pops out to BP

[killuminati35]

IBB to Edmonds.

[killuminati35]

2-2 to Juan Encarnacion. Lets get a K.

[killuminati35]

There it is. 2 down. JE K's looking.

[keeganbrick]

Oh snap BP!!

[killuminati35]

Wow, that could have gotten really ugly. Nice play BP.

[GOREDSGO32]

Wasn't the Royce Clayton of St. Louis fame pretty decent back in the mid 90's?

[wojo1025]

ok, wow....that's all that can really be said about that play. How many nights in a row will the Reds be on WebGems?! This team can make the fantastic plays, someone get the SS to make the routine ones now ;)

[killuminati35]

Wasn't the Royce Clayton of St. Louis fame pretty decent back in the mid 90's?


At his best, he was decent. Nothing more.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Man, if Freel isn't making a great play, he's right there when it's happening

[fisch11]

BP steals a Webgem from Freel....says, "Mine turn, Ryan."

[killuminati35]

Larue sucks. 6-3. Spiezio in for Rolen at 3rd

[killuminati35]

Harang. 5-3. Back to swinging at first pitches.

[keeganbrick]

2 pitches, 2 outs. This is so retarted!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is 4 out of the last 6 that have swung at the first pitch including this AB by Freel.

[fisch11]

Either way it never takes long for Freel to get his jersey dirty.

[killuminati35]

Foul ball drops between Encarnacion and Pujols. New life.

[killuminati35]

Freel K's swinging.

[fisch11]

Typical inning from the back of the order. Freel does his best, but Carpenter is pounding the bottom of the zone tonight.

[keeganbrick]

Did you see that LaRue? Molina was clearly taking the first pitch. Thats something we need to work on.

[killuminati35]

Molina grounds out to EE. 1 out.

[killuminati35]

Carp K's swinging.

[fisch11]

Carpenter regresses to his career average, 2 away.

[killuminati35]

Beautiful play by EE.

[keeganbrick]

EE with another gem, add it to his bundle this year with limited starts.

[fisch11]

Super Edwin!

[wojo1025]

Rich would've had that one .......eassssssssssssssssy

[fisch11]

Takes a foul ball away from Eckstein, ha.

Ok, time to chip away again.

[killuminati35]

Hatteberg knocks one out. Lead cut in half.

[wojo1025]

Rally Killer

[keeganbrick]

HATT-E-BERG HR:roll:

[fisch11]

Rich would've had that one .......eassssssssssssssssy

And on the prior pitch when LaRue throws the ball back to the mound, Denorfia would have anticipated that shot and began sprinting in time to catch that shot with his hat.


Mr. Hat makes it a 2 run game!

[killuminati35]

3-1 Griffey grounds on 2nd pitch.

[thatcoolguy_22]

blasphemous undertones create disatrous drummer tones
clayton for president then his damn blunders are gone
phillips to short and freel to 2nd, but just dont start todd in right
limited range and a 230 batting average will make me kill myself tonight
we need deno out there jerry please take him off the bench
and krivsky on your next trade instead of trash give us a starter to pitch
just a few wishes jotted down on this thread
give my left kidney ifthe wild cards colored red

[Team Clark]

HATT-E-BERG HR:roll:

Not bad for an old guy.

[keeganbrick]

Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee Ee

[Team Clark]

I just called that HR BTW... LOL!

[killuminati35]

Get out!


EE smokes another HR! Down one run.

[thatcoolguy_22]

Ee!!!!!!
Hr

[Team Clark]

Will someone get thrown at?

[wojo1025]

Rally Killer Take 3

[fisch11]

EE makes it a one run game!

Can we get runners on in front of these homers?

HRs: Reds - 3, Cards - 1

And we trail by one!

[killuminati35]

Dunn swings at either of those pitches and the game would be tied.

[wojo1025]

ps, Rich would've homered there .........eassssssssssssssssssssssy

[killuminati35]

Dunn K's swinging on a ball up and in... Lets the first two pitches down the middle go for strikes.

[fisch11]

EE was sooooo sitting on that fastball.

[killuminati35]

BP grounds out to Eckstein. Did you see that Royce?

[fisch11]

New life....let's keep hanging zeros now, we've got the momentum.

[keeganbrick]

I never woulda thought we would gain the momentum to get back in this game.

Lets have bobblehead and half price tickets games every week day game from here on our Mr. C!

[killuminati35]

Need a quick 3 up 3 down here Aaron.

[killuminati35]

Duncan goes down swinging.

[fisch11]

Pujols up with empty bases, that's the gameplan.

[keeganbrick]

Wow, 3 of those pitches were really close, give us one of them Blue.

[killuminati35]

BB on to Pujols.

[fisch11]

Aaron obviously has the pitch around to Pujols.

[keeganbrick]

Rolen is out....nice.

[fisch11]

I want to hold down Spiezio and shave his red sould patch.

Rolen is out by the way....no word.

[killuminati35]

Wow. Where is the strike zone out this inning?

[killuminati35]

Full count to Spiezio, lets not start walking guys

[killuminati35]

2 run HR by Spiezio. Back to a 3 run deficit. There goes the momentum.

[Redsfan08]

Should of pitched to Pujols

[fisch11]

Kiddin me.....well that doesn't help to walk Pujols.

[keeganbrick]

Great.:(

[Team Clark]

Talk about repeating pitch patterns.... geez. He and Arroyo still have a lot to learn. LaRue's fault too.

[wojo1025]

Rolen is out....nice.


Good point, him striking out would've sucked there :mooner:

[Redsfan08]

Almost every time there is a sold out game we lose

[killuminati35]

Edmonds fouls out to Hatteberg. 2 down.

Lets get Juan here and and try to start chipping away again.

[keeganbrick]

This ump will not budge on that outside corner.

[killuminati35]

JE strikes out swinging.

[fisch11]

Reset to 3....let's do it all over again.

[keeganbrick]

Here comes a 1-2-3 inning unless we learn some patients.

[killuminati35]

Clayton swings at first pitch. Fouls it off.

[wojo1025]

If Harang gets ahead 0-2 or 1-2 and LaRue calls for another fastball I may vomit on my computer:bang: :bang:

[killuminati35]

So much for patience. Clayton swings at first two pitches and weakly grounds out to Carpenter. Jesus, take a pitch.

[wojo1025]

Well at least LaRue saw some pitches

[killuminati35]

Larue. ugh.


Goes down looking.


What is he hitting? .180?

[spaethc]

why is LaRue still on this team? He is an automatic out every time he steps to the plate.

[killuminati35]

Pathetic inning. Absolutely pathetic. We need to make Carpenter work. The Cards bullpen is depleted right now, lets get into it.

[thatcoolguy_22]

i dont like the way larue is calling the pitches either...

[fisch11]

Momentum clearly back to St. Louis.

Man do we need this game....I hope we can keep up and win this in a slugfest.

[killuminati35]

We're only down three, but it feels like 12.

[keeganbrick]

Clayton has 1 bad play in the field, another he should have made and he has swung at the first pitch in his only 2 at bats and grounded out weakly in both.

[lawnboy33]

Too bad Freel can't be catcher lol Wow larue sucks ! why is he even in there??

[killuminati35]

Diving BP can't quite get to the ball, Belliard singles.

[fisch11]

Another bouncer off of a glove.

[LetsGoReds11]

6,7,8 hitters for cincy absolutely killing us........clayton and larue looking absolutely horrible at the plate but not surprising.......I think I can change the channel once these batters come up because theres going to be nothing happening good for the reds.....well on another thought if clayton gets hurt while batting that would be something good...but thats just getting my hopes up

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

seems the reds either bring their A game like last night or their C game like tonight(so far that is)

[killuminati35]

Dispute over the count. hmm

Molina K's.

[keeganbrick]

We have 3 catchers that all have the qualitys the other ones need. LaRue can block the plate and is great defensively. Ross can call a game and bat. Javy can translate EZ.

[killuminati35]

Carp sac's Belliard to 2nd. 2 down.

[fisch11]

Did Molina just K on two strikes?

[fisch11]

Rolen out with upper back spasms.

[Team Clark]

We have 3 catchers that all have the qualitys the other ones need. LaRue can block the plate and is great defensively. Ross can call a game and bat. Javy can translate EZ.


That's pretty darn true. Although I believe Ross has more than you give credit for. I do agree with what you are saying.

[killuminati35]

Oh my gosh. That was K. This is terrible.

[fisch11]

Very tight zone tonight east and west.

[killuminati35]

Swinging bunt single for Eckstein. 1st and 3rd, 2 out.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

man, i hate nubbers

[fisch11]

And of course Eckstein with an infield single on the next pitch.

[keeganbrick]

If I hear George or Chris call David Eckstein a "pesky player" one more time.....:barf:

[killuminati35]

This might get out of hand.

[keeganbrick]

Whoa, this game could get out of hand real quick here. Guess he was scared of all that chew in Duncan's mouth.

[fisch11]

Ok, Harang has obviously lost his control because he walks Duncan on 4 pitches with Pujols on deck.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

is there at least 2 or 3 on every time pujols is up???

[fisch11]

I don't even want to watch this at bat. I'm going to step out for a minute...prayers.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

whew

[keeganbrick]

Whewwwwwwwww, close one, now lets ride that momentum

[Team Clark]

WOW. I just saw a Miracle

[killuminati35]

Good job by Harang to toughen up and get Pujols to K.

[LetsGoReds11]

Wow Good Job By Harang.....Now Lets Go W/ The Top Of The Order Up Cuz We All Know Once We Get To The 7,8 Hitters and Right Now Even The 6 Hitter We Are Doomed.....We Need To Go Now.....Lets Go Freel

[fisch11]

I'm back.....phewww thank god.

I could just picture the 2nd grand slam of the game there.

[killuminati35]

That has not been called for us. Wow. Freel goes down looking.

[keeganbrick]

Come on, this is BS. Dude has not called that pitch all night long.

[fisch11]

Favortism on the zone for Carpenter. Harang wasn't getting that outside corner.

[killuminati35]

Hatteberg lines a single.

[LetsGoReds11]

Harang Is Not Getting The Same Calls As Carpenter Has......It's Been Happening Pretty Much The Whole Night.......Not Good As Carpenter Is Beginning To Take Control He Could Possibly Go The Distance W/ The Cardinals Bullpen Beat Up

[killuminati35]

Griffey bloops in a single. 1st & 2nd. 1 Out. Come on EE.

[keeganbrick]

God I would love our 4th homerun of the game right about now.

[Team Clark]

EEWill be swinging from the heels here

[Team Clark]

Ohhh Here we goooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[killuminati35]

EE HBP. Bases loaded for Dunn.

[keeganbrick]

Man, I'm getting real nervous now.

[Team Clark]

Fastballs inside to Dunn with curves away

[LetsGoReds11]

Just As I Say Something About Carpenter He's Starting To Get Into Trouble......I Just Might Have Jinxed Him Hah.....Lets Go Dunn Bases Loaded

[keeganbrick]

Damnit, I would have rather not had him swing at the first pitch.

[killuminati35]

Dunn Sac F-8. 1 Run.

[Team Clark]

GOOOOOOOO brandon gooooooooooooooo

[killuminati35]

BP! Woo! 2 Run Double!

[LetsGoReds11]

Wow

[Team Clark]

YEssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

[keeganbrick]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:jump: :roll:

[LetsGoReds11]

Didn't See That Coming

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

grande sand dunn's flyball would stay in the park---i guess so george edmonds caught it 75 feet away from the fence

[fisch11]

Never surrender!

[killuminati35]

Of course, Royce ends the inning on a week ground ball.

[fisch11]

Was anybody else waiting for an Edmonds webgem there?

I hope GG wasn't disappointed.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Gotta love those clutch doubles

[wojo1025]

Easy guys, Richie Rich would've hit a homer there, we'd be winning, jeez:aurilia:

[fisch11]

We have no business being in this game right now, especially against Carpenter. This team just isn't going to give in tonight!

[fisch11]

Easy guys, Richie Rich would've hit a homer there, we'd be winning, jeez:aurilia:

He is saving it for a PH game winning homer in the 9th.

[LetsGoReds11]

Phillips Comes Through......We Needed That....Yea Of Course Clayton Grounds Out Won't Expect Much From Him

[killuminati35]

Cormier in for Harang...

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

i thought for sure edmonds was going to pull his cape out and catch that

[killuminati35]

Clayton finally makes a play.

[fisch11]

C'mon bullpen....show your teeth tonight please.

[UC_Ken]

i thought for sure edmonds was going to pull his cape out and catch that
Is that you George Grand?

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

somebody catch me---clayton threw somebody out

[keeganbrick]

Nice play Clayton, Ill give you props for that one.

[wojo1025]

Wow, Even Clayton is trying to get on WebGems, that was one of the best plays he's made since he's been here!

[fisch11]

Clayton hears the haters and makes a nice play to get Spiezio.


Ha.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

seems to be a lot of hotties behind the reds dugout tonight

[killuminati35]

Edmonds hasn't hit lefties this year, lets go after him.

[killuminati35]

LIke that. Edmonds K's swinging. 2 down.

[fisch11]

2 down.

[Team Clark]

seems to be a lot of hotties behind the reds dugout tonight

Those are the only people I leave seats for! :laugh:

[keeganbrick]

Do not throw Belliard a fast ball whoever is coming in!

[killuminati35]

Juan singles to CF. I thought for a minute that was going to get by griffey

[MaineRed]

Is that you George Grande?

I can't stand Jim Edmonds, but I figured he'd probably run that down. He does everything else against the Reds.

[MaineRed]

Tony Lar ...... I mean, Jerry Narron out for a pitching change.

[LetsGoReds11]

I'm Still Dumbfounded With Narron.....Cormeir Numbers Against Right Handers Are Better Then Against Left Handers......Why Does He Not Leave Him In There

[killuminati35]

weathers in...

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

weathers arm should be hanging on by a vein by now

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

i guess that would make that a weathers vein--ugh--sorry

[killuminati35]

Weathers get Belliard to fly out to Dunn.

[keeganbrick]

I hate watching Bellirad play. That stupid tongue stick out, Manny trot, and he is fat.

[fisch11]

Matchup pays off. Tied going to the home 7th.

LaRue, pichter's spot, Freel due up.

[Nugget]

I'm Still Dumbfounded With Narron.....Cormeir Numbers Against Right Handers Are Better Then Against Left Handers......Why Does He Not Leave Him In There

A few reasons come to mind, Cormier pitched yesterday, there is a runner on, and maybe JN is looking at who is on deck too.

[LetsGoReds11]

Welp My Rides Here To Get To The Bar To Watch The Rest Of The Game Hopefully I Make It In Time......Have A Good One

[lawnboy33]

Yep I totally agree! Hopefully they switch val for larue!

[killuminati35]

Larue swings at first pitch. F%&$!

[keeganbrick]

LaRue, first pitch swingin, whats new?

[fisch11]

Frenchie showin' some hustle!

[keeganbrick]

Damn, I thought Ross got more of that.

[killuminati35]

I thought Ross might have had one there. Bummer. Still swinging at first pitch though.

[fisch11]

Ross with a poke, but Edmonds hot dogs it.

[spaethc]

I don't think there is a team that swings at more first pitches than the Reds.

[killuminati35]

I'm watching the game on FSN Midwest, becuase I live out of market. I'm so sick of hearing about how much of a home run park this is, everytime we're on TV. Get a new topic.

[keeganbrick]

The bottom of this line up has to make the pitcher work more. I know its Carpenter and its tough when you fall behind but cmon guys, take a few pitches.

[fisch11]

I don't think there is a team that swings at more first pitches than the Reds.

It must not matter, because we are at the top of the league in OBP.

[killuminati35]

On to the 8th. Lets shut them down, and see what our 2-3-4 can do in our half.

[fisch11]

Bray on for the 8th.

[killuminati35]

Bray is in.

[lawnboy33]

Damn ! I know Larue is ok at defense but come on! He is an automatic out!

[keeganbrick]

Throw em that electric slider Bill.

[killuminati35]

There is no strike zone for the reds tonight.

[killuminati35]

I watch quite a bit of Cards games and Molina only can hit US. Ugh, Lead off double.