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RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Nope. He came in the 8th for Edwin.

Elizardo warming???!

Its Narron remember

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Who is going to start tomorrow if EZ comes in?
do we dare say the word joe mays i hope not

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Who is going to start tomorrow if EZ comes in?

Freel :lol:

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
c'mon Freel

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Who is going to start tomorrow if EZ comes in?
No clue. This game is going to screw up the entire rotation for a week.

Tony Cloninger
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
I don't think Sparky's used Clay Kirby yet.....is he in the doghouse?

He must have at least 1 inning in him.

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
who would be scheduled to start tommorrow for louisville?

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
EZ in the pen?

Well he didn't throw a lot of pitches last time out

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
I say just stick with Harrang for a few innings now. He is already warmed up. Don't completely kill the roation by using each of them for an inning.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
Pads lose.. LA winning.. won't lose ground in the WC

LA is only 1/2 game out...right?

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:20 AM
I guess Belisle could come off the DL and start tomorrow..

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:21 AM
LA is only 1/2 game out...right?
LA is leading the division. SD and AZ were a 1/2 game out in the WC coming into today.

TeamBoone
08-12-2006, 12:21 AM
what he say

Why? What did he say now that irks everyone. I didn't hear anything bad.

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:21 AM
Joe Mays being called up i kinda doubt that.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:21 AM
No clue. This game is going to screw up the entire rotation for a week.

It will be a devestating loss or win...a win..not so devestating..

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:21 AM
I guess Belisle could come off the DL and start tomorrow..

for the bats he's only pitched one inning eash appearance

TheBurn
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Cards lost too...

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
The Reds better score (and they better hold it)

This really isn't fun anymore :lol:

edabbs44
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
if true, you are VASTLY overrating Kearns/Lopez.
The funny thing is that of all the guys acquired during trade season, the only one who will definitely be useful next year is Bray. Think about it.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
scrappy Farney

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Worst part of this is, for either team, a loss is devestating. (But it's the best part, if you get a win)

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Freel walks.


run scrappy run

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
nice job freel

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
I guess Belisle could come off the DL and start tomorrow..

I dont know if he would be able to, he pitched tonight for the Bats.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Freel walks.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
It still bothers me. The only guy with multiple hits today is on the bench now as he has been since the 8th. That bugs the crap out of me.

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Hatte needs to "Vet Up" here.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Freel walks. SB attempt coming up soon.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Hatte.. Hatte.. Hatte

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
I just have this feeling something good is about to happen.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
I dont know if he would be able to, he pitched tonight for the Bats.
Oh crap.

Homer :evil:

VR
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Kyle Lohse....

2 starts
11 IP
3 Earnies
15 K's

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Freel at second....BASEHIT PLEASE>>>>!!!

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Hatteberg bunts Freel to 2nd. 2 outs.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Freel moves up

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Kyle Lohse....

2 starts
11 IP
3 Earnies
15 K's
nice numbers

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Ok Junior, if it was ever your time.....now would be it.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
A Bunt??? Are you kidding me???

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Hatteberg bunts?

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:23 AM
I guess Belisle could come off the DL and start tomorrow..

Then he goes off the 25-man and to Lville for 10 days?

Coffey/Weathers/Mercker/EvE/Cormier could all go tomorrow. We'll be fine.

Fortunately Monday is an offday.

Obviously we are all hoping Harang doesn't break

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Kyle Lohse....

2 starts
11 IP
3 Earnies
15 K's
Small sample size

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
yet another professional at bat for Hatty....

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Junior!

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Please run into his bat ball. Please.

REDREAD
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Kyle Lohse....

2 starts
11 IP
3 Earnies
15 K's

Yea, the early returns have far exceeded anyone's expectations. Who would've thought he'd be the lift he has been?

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
I guess both Jr. and Dunn are due.

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Kyle Lohse....

2 starts
11 IP
3 Earnies
15 K's


I just got back.....sounds like he's doing good

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
It would be cool if baseball was sudden death.


Griffey is sudden death.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Junior fouls out to 2nd. 5-5 mid 14th.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
What?

Dangit, Hatteberg. Hit. You need multiple bases.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
or not.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Curse you Utley

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:24 AM
I do not like the idea of sacrificing to set up 2006 JR at all.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
another pull hit off the end of the bat for Jr.:thumbdown

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
Yay Junior swinging like his bat is going to burn his hands.

CrackerJack
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
Jr...has done nothing but let this team down for some time now

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
Junior is soo bad it's not funny.

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
are u serious to the 14th we go

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:25 AM
That was a stupid freaking decision. I really, really do not approve of Jerry Narron.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
Then he goes off the 25-man and to Lville for 10 days?

Coffey/Weathers/Mercker/EvE/Cormier could all go tomorrow. We'll be fine.

Fortunately Monday is an offday.

Obviously we are all hoping Harang doesn't break
Just have a bullpen day?

Who starts for you? Arroyo?

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
Junior makes me sleepy (posting comment for FCB)

Virginia Beach Reds
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
alrighty then.

I do not want to place undo relevance on this game (should we lose)
but, this is a must win.

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
If the Reds were going to bunt it should have been when they had runners at 1st and 2nd with no outs 1 or 2 inning ago.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
Where is Cormier?

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
That was a stupid freaking decision. I really, really do not approve of Jerry Narron.
What was?

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:26 AM
is Cormier dead?

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Where is Cormier?
Good question.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Junior, Dunn and BP are now a combined 0 for 17 tonight.

CrackerJack
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
alrighty then.

I do not want to place undo relevance on this game (should we lose)
but, this is a must win.

It is now.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
EZ in now. Guess he is just going to use every pitcher now 1 inning and whoever is pitching in the 20th is stuck pitching till its over.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
I hope to God he ain't tipping his pitches again.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
...EZ in...I have a feeling it's over.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Ramirez in to pitch. So who knows who pitches tomorrow

REDREAD
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
is Cormier dead?

That's what I want to know.. You'd think he'd go before any of the starters..

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Late night Lizard.

Is it Homer's day tomorrow :)

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Help.

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
What was?

Having Hatte sec Freel so JR comes up with 2 outs. Hatte should have freaking been up there hitting.

captainmorgan07
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
let the kid go all nite we'll find somebody to pitch tommorrow

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Not the best start.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Delucchi leads off with a single.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
EZ in now. Guess he is just going to use every pitcher now 1 inning and whoever is pitching in the 20th is stuck pitching till its over.
I get the feelign EZ will stay in until this is over.

edabbs44
08-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Then he goes off the 25-man and to Lville for 10 days?

Coffey/Weathers/Mercker/EvE/Cormier could all go tomorrow. We'll be fine.

Fortunately Monday is an offday.

Obviously we are all hoping Harang doesn't break
JN is going to start Coffey. He'll face Rollins. Delucci, Utley and Howard up next. That's Cormier time. Weathers in to face Burrell and Rowand. EvE in to face Lieberthal and next thing you know, he looks at the scoreboard and ays "Oh shoot, it's only the 2nd inning."

remdog
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
Geez this game is painful but it's also captivating.

I was going to start dinner at 6:00 but I thought I'd check in on the game....it's now almost 8:30 and the only thing that's been 'cooked' is me....I only got to the cocktails part of dinner!

Rem

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
this could be over fast

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
I'd let JR baby-sit my kids anytime (if I had any), but I'm really getting tired of watching him play baseball.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
Having Hatte sec Freel so JR comes up with 2 outs. Hatte should have freaking been up there hitting.
I don't think JN called for that one.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
Dear moderator:

can we have a 1 minute cursing pass if we lose this game?

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
I get the feelign EZ will stay in until this is over.

You mean about four minutes :evil:

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
Junior, Dunn and BP are now a combined 0 for 17 tonight.

Of those currently in the lineup, there are only 3 hits between the 9 of them.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:28 AM
That was a stupid freaking decision. I really, really do not approve of Jerry Narron.

In Narron's defense, I'm not sure that Hatteberg's bunt was a sacrifice attempt. It appeared that Hatteberg might have been trying for a base hit.

But you're right. It was a stupid decision either way.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
I really have no idea why EZ is out there

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
You can't lose to a guy named Chase

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
dookie! 1st pitch hit and now 3-0 count

VR
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
Reds have faced 7 pitchers tonight

1 w/ an ERA in the 2's
1 w/ an ERA in the 3's
1 w/ an ERA in the 4's
4 with an ERA in the 5's

They are hitting a cool .163 :(

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
No way Hatte was called to bunt there. He did that on his own.

Why not have Freel steal the base?

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
Ramirez about to walk Utley.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
EZ has 0 confidence.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
I really have no idea why EZ is out there

Maybe Jerry said "screw it, Get 'em tomorrow" :evil:

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
A combined 29 strikeouts tonight.

TheBurn
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Ugly.

edabbs44
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
In Narron's defense, I'm not sure that Hatteberg's bunt was a sacrifice attempt. It appeared that Hatteberg might have been trying for a base hit.

But you're right. It was a stupid decision either way.
Someone let Hatte know that the odds are against him beating out a bunt.

vaticanplum
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Junior, Dunn and BP are now a combined 0 for 17 tonight.

You know, as much as we've been down on Junior this game, that is unusually bad. Seems a lot of bad luck needs to happen for those three to all be that cold.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
What I don't get is why you use EZ when Cormier is still in the bullpen.

alloverjr
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
I get the feelign EZ will stay in until this is over.

which will be about 2 more minutes.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
thats it.. cause Howard will win this one here

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Why?

redsfaninbsg
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Wow, how dumb.

edabbs44
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
This game is over.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
????????

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
The pitcher is on deck, so if you get Howard u have a shot.

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Putting EZ in the game was just JN's way of crying "uncle."

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Why would you put the winning run at 3rd with 0 outs?

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Utley walks and an intentional walk to Howard. Bases loaded with no outs.

REDREAD
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Well, if this gets the Lizards' turn skipped tommorrow, it might be a blessing in disguise.. Hate to say that, but it may all be for the best.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
This is dumb. You do not IBB to put someone on 3rd base with 0 outs.

TheBurn
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Are they walking him?

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
There gonna walk him?

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
0 outs bases loaded

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
basesloaded...no outs...OVER...say goodnight Gracie....

redsfaninbsg
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
You walk a man to load the bases? With nobody out?

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
EZ is gonna make this one quick

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Maybe Jerry said "screw it, Get 'em tomorrow" :evil:didn't this innning set up for Cormier?

This is really stupid to walk Howard in this spot.

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
I now cant stand grande. I used to approve, but he sucks.

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
WTH???

You gotta be kidding me.

Get the out, then the pitcher next...

Complete brainfart.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
Just got in and went to ESPN for the scores. Boy, was I surprised!

What in the heck is going on? Pitching Harang and EZ? Leaving Cromier on the bench. Taking Edwin out with 2 HR's? How did Eddie allow only one run on one hit and no HR?

This team amazes me.

REDREAD
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
Holy crap, only Narron would intentionally walk the winning run to 3rd with 0 outs when his pitcher can't throw strikes.

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
Narron is officially Bob Boone-dumb.

Puffy
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
bad move - you never walk the winning run to third base w/ no outs

TheBurn
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
JN-

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2729/anchorman2un3.jpg

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:32 AM
You must pitch to Ryan Howard. Even with the pitcher following, you desperately need the Out he potentially represents.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
Even if you K FUltz there is only 1 out.

stupid.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
Triple play time

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
WTH???

You gotta be kidding me.

Get the out, then the pitcher next...

Complete brainfart.all the next batter after the pitcher has to do is hit a flyball

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
2 strikes....

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
This was 1 of the better games of the year. How quickly it became one of the ugliest games of the year.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
Wish I had gone to bed without having to watch the 14th.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
Fultz lines out to short. 1 out.

KoryMac5
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
The only thing I can think of is he is hoping for the Dp

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
Howard still needed a hit. Narron gives them a ton of ways to win without getting a hit

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
1 down.. bases juiced

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
There's 1.

Heath
08-12-2006, 12:34 AM
there should be a rule that states that any RZ game thread over 55 pages should be an automatic Reds win.

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
almost hit him....LOL he just got out of the way!!!

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
See now all they need is a fly ball and it is over.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
He should have acted like it hit him better than that.

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
The fact that Fultz "lined out" does not leave me with a lot of confidence in EZ.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
Poop.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
Rowand.. scary fella with doubleplay potential

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
damn ez sucks.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
2 more outs :pray:

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
ballgame

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
Rowand singles. Game over. What an ugly loss.

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:35 AM
Dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. Unreal.

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Phillies win and the Reds have no starter for tomorrow.

:help:

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Terrible loss, could be season turning.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Awful.
When looking back on the season. This may be the game that told the story.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
this proves that ER cannot be relied on in big situations....horrible

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
damn ez sucks.

how many pitchers pick up 2 loses in less than 24 hours?

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Narron has to be the dumbest manager on the face of the planet.

vaticanplum
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Lametastic.

I think the karma surrounding this team is mentally unstable.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
4.5 hours later, the ballgame is over.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
If Rich Aurilia is playing heads-up and drops that soft liner, the result would have been a Double Play.

Game over. Stupid, stupid final inning management by Narron.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:36 AM
145 people on a Friday night game thread?

I think we all need some sort of social help :lol:

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
I hate you, Jerry Narron.

redsfaninbsg
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Bad pitching and horrible decisions by Narron.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Lesson to Reds: if you don't want to lose it in 14, keep the intensity up in the 5th, 6th, and 7th.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Terrible loss, could be season turning.

It will be season turning....

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Smart move to bring in a pitcher who always gets rocked in his first inning of work. Narron kills me.

edabbs44
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Chapter 2....use everyone in your bullpen for an average of 2/3 of an inning by the 9th.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0764550853.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

deltachi8
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
this proves that ER cannot be relied on in big situations....horrible

or he should not have been pitching tonight. (oh and he is 23)

REDREAD
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
this proves that ER cannot be relied on in big situations....horrible

We knew that before this inning. The guy just isn't that good. People have figured him out and he's lost confidence.

Sadly, we're forced to keep him in the rotation.

Hopefully, this inning makes it impossible for him to start tommorrow.

VR
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Rowand singles. Game over. What an ugly loss.

It's amazing what happens when you just try to hit a single instead of a homerun swing every time. Reds could have used that about eleventeen times tonight.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
That was so stupid. I don't understand walking Howard. At all.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Awful.
When looking back on the season. This may be the game that told the story.Nah, there have been 6 or 7 of these.

A true series of brain farts from Narron

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
This loss sucks..we need to hit the bats up for half a staff now.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:38 AM
145 people on a Friday night game thread?

I think we all need some sort of social help :lol:

Dedicated to our team.. is our team dedicated to us?

Eric_Davis
08-12-2006, 12:38 AM
How in the world do you take out Encarnacion and leave in Dunn or Griffey in this game, neither of which could knock in a run if the count was 3-0, no outs and the bases were loaded?

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:38 AM
If Rich Aurilia is playing heads-up and drops that soft liner, the result would have been a Double Play.

Game over. Stupid, stupid final inning management by Narron.

Infield fly rule.....

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:39 AM
They need a win tomorrow....


...in 9 innings, please :D

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:39 AM
That was so stupid. I don't understand walking Howard. At all.

With only 8 hits in 14 innings...you are not going to win....

Doc. Scott
08-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Infield fly rule.....

The infield fly rule is not supposed to apply for line drives.

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Can't blame EZ for that one. Mentally I'm sure he wasn't ready at all for pitching tonight.

IBB the winning run to third with no outs. I'm still in disbelief a manager could be that clueless.

VR
08-12-2006, 12:39 AM
If Rich Aurilia is playing heads-up and drops that soft liner, the result would have been a Double Play.

Game over. Stupid, stupid final inning management by Narron.

Triple play perhaps. Millisecond to think about it, but it would have been sweet. Castro may have done it.

Stunning shot to the chops.

remdog
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
Someone just refer that whole Narron Appreciation Club thread to this game. That should close that matter. :angry:

Rem

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
I feel the need to repeat that I hate Jerry Narron.

NO other manager in baseball walks the bases loaded with no outs in extra innings.

He is a certifiable idiot.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
They need a win tomorrow....


...in 9 innings, please :D
Forget that we need 5 and a monsoon.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
Guys it doesn't matter what the Cardinals do. We are 2 games over .50. 82-80 won't make the playoffs no matter how bad the NL is.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
They need a win tomorrow....


...in 9 innings, please :D

let it go 5-6 innings and prey for rain with us leading

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
They need a win tomorrow....


...in 9 innings, please :D

Not going to happen...Phillies will sweep...devestating loss...devestating.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:40 AM
With only 8 hits in 14 innings...you are not going to win....
no when you give away two runs you are not going to win. The Jr and Ross errors kept the Phillies alive when the game should have been over.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:41 AM
Forget that we need 5 and a monsoon.

I don't think the dry Canadian air that has dropped into the Midwest is going to make that possible.

WVRedsFan
08-12-2006, 12:41 AM
I don't understand. You use Weathers, Bray, coffey, Guardado, Mercker, Franklin, and Harang. You've got five choices left in your bullpen, even though you've used a starter--your ace--already and you go to EZ, who hasn't been able to get anyone out in a month. You leave Cromier in the bullpen. You allow EZ to load the bases and you allow Bray to allow three runs, but you pull Coffey after 1/3 inning. You walk the winning run to third.

And you expect to win?

I should have gone to bed. Now, I'll never get to sleep.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:41 AM
back to small ball and pitch to content

cReds1
08-12-2006, 12:41 AM
I feel the need to repeat that I hate Jerry Narron.

NO other manager in baseball walks the bases loaded with no outs in extra innings.

He is a certifiable idiot.

He deserves another contract extension. :rolleyes:

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
I feel the need to repeat that I hate Jerry Narron.

NO other manager in baseball walks the bases loaded with no outs in extra innings.

He is a certifiable idiot.Howard still had to get a hit. Instead you give a good hitter(rowand) an ab where all he really have to do is put it in play.

alloverjr
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
It's nice to see all those trades for bullpen help really working out for us. Remember, this team blew 2 leads in the final 2 innings of regulation.

Oh...and JN makes some really dumb decisions.

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
We need to break in and turn the sprinklers on for a Bull Durham rainout tomorrow.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
With only 8 hits in 14 innings...you are not going to win....
Yeah then why did he take the guy with 2 homers and 3 rbis out in the 8th?

That was real smart. :rolleyes:

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
The infield fly rule is not supposed to apply for line drives.

The difference between a line-drive and a fly ball is subjective...

RedsMan3203
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
So who has options left in the pen/staters wise?


I'm sure we could see 1 or 2 players sent down and some extra fresh arms come up for tomorrow.

Lohse and EZ?

Puffy
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
You never walk the winning run in an extra inning game to third base. Take your chances w/ Howard and the DP

Bad managing

CrackerJack
08-12-2006, 12:42 AM
8 hits in 14 innings for the Reds - yeesh

TheBigLebowski
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
Howard still had to get a hit. Instead you give a good hitter(rowand) an ab where all he really have to do is put it in play.

Hence my hatred. That's "Managing Baseball for Dummies" stuff. He is a buffoon.

TheBurn
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
I still can't get over the decision to walk Howard to load 'em up w/ no outs.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
Yeah then why did he take the guy with 2 homers and 3 rbis out in the 8th?

That was real smart. :rolleyes:

Noticed he left Rich out of the line-up and needed an excuse to take out the best hitter of the night

marcshoe
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
I haven't been on the computer tonight, just watching the game, and this may just be the emotion of the moment, but that may have been the stupidest managing I have ever seen in my life.

I'm talking about the walk to Howard, but that was hardly the only idiotic thing done tonight.

There were no outs. I don't care if the next batter was Eddie Gaedel. There were no outs! In extra innings! On the Road! (I'm dangerously close to going all caps here), You Don't Put The Winning Run On Third With NO Outs!

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
Howard still had to get a hit. Instead you give a good hitter(rowand) an ab where all he really have to do is put it in play.

I agree. You had a 70% chance of getting him out. Stupid...

Doc. Scott
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
The difference between a line-drive and a fly ball is subjective...

That line drive was nothing else but, believe me. It was a low pitch and the ball never went more than a couple of feet off the ground.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:44 AM
Narron has a superb record in 1-run games, the measure of a manager in my book...though I certainly disagree with him often, esp. starting Clayton. I look to the complete failure of Griffey and Dunn to deliver anything whatsoever as the reason for this loss. Dunn has looked overmatched at times, and against mediocre pitching. And if Griffey does not play well, I'll say it again, the Reds are toast.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:44 AM
look, everything was explainable until the last inning.

WHy pitch EZ instead of Cormier?

You cannot walk Howard to load the bases. Complete lunacy. There is no logical thought process that gets you to walking Howard with NO OUTS!

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:45 AM
Triple play perhaps. Millisecond to think about it, but it would have been sweet. Castro may have done it.

Yep. Phillips almost got the DP when he let the ball drop the other night (was it last night?). If Aurilia drops it, there's a 6-3-5 DP at minimum and the potential, as you aptly stated, for a Triple Play. A DP would have been huge as it could have altered how Ramirez pitched to Rowand.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2006, 12:45 AM
I haven't been on the computer tonight, just watching the game, and this may just be the emotion of the moment, but that may have been the stupidest managing I have ever seen in my life.

Pinch hitting for Encarnacion with the bases loaded a few weeks back against the Mets still ranks up there highly on Narron's list of dumb moves...

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:45 AM
Narron has a superb record in 1-run games, the measure of a manager in my book...though I certainly disagree with him often, esp. starting Clayton. I look to the complete failure of Griffey and Dunn to deliver anything whatsoever as the reason for this loss. Dunn has looked overmatched at times, and against mediocre pitching. And if Griffey does not play well, I'll say it again, the Reds are toast.

I agree. Griffey is hurting this team much more than Narron.

redsmetz
08-12-2006, 12:45 AM
Narron has a superb record in 1-run games, the measure of a manager in my book...though I certainly disagree with him often, esp. starting Clayton. I look to the complete failure of Griffey and Dunn to deliver anything whatsoever as the reason for this loss. Dunn has looked overmatched at times, and against mediocre pitching. And if Griffey does not play well, I'll say it again, the Reds are toast.

Yes, if Griffey doesn't come around, we're in huge trouble. And while he did well to get to that ball, I wish he hadn't missed. I just watched the report on the news and I thought Dunn gave up on the hit that gave the Phillies their first run. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it looked catchable.

smith288
08-12-2006, 12:45 AM
I said this in the chat....the walking the bases loaded with no outs as like knowing you were going to die but didnt know how. Totally helpless feeling.

RedLegSuperStar
08-12-2006, 12:46 AM
G'Night Gang.. that one drained me

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:46 AM
Yep. Phillips almost got the DP when he let the ball drop the other night (was it last night?). If Aurilia drops it, there's a 6-3-5 DP at minimum and the potential, as you aptly stated, for a Triple Play. A DP would have been huge as it could have altered how Ramirez pitched to Rowand.
lol that was tonight.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:46 AM
That line drive was nothing else but, believe me. It was a low pitch and the ball never went more than a couple of feet off the ground.

my point is there is no difference made in the rule book.

"with a man on 1st and 2nd or 1st,2nd, and 3rd with one out or no out and the ball hit on the fly in the infield, the batter is automaticly out."

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:46 AM
Narron has a superb record in 1-run games, the measure of a manager in my book...though I certainly disagree with him often, esp. starting Clayton. I look to the complete failure of Griffey and Dunn to deliver anything whatsoever as the reason for this loss. Dunn has looked overmatched at times, and against mediocre pitching. And if Griffey does not play well, I'll say it again, the Reds are toast.The Reds had the runs to win, the bullpen and defense gave the game away and then Narron short circuited in the 14th.

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:47 AM
Pinch hitting for Encarnacion with the bases loaded a few weeks back against the Mets still ranks up there highly on Narron's list of dumb moves...

That was at least somewhat defendable with having reliable Hatt PH'ing to get the go-ahead run in. (not that it was the right decision)

This IBB brainfart is easily one of the dumbest managerial moves I've ever seen

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:48 AM
Ross doesn't make an erroneous throw to second in the bottom of the 9th, and this converstation isn't taking place, and that game is over an hour and a half ago.

The Reds had plenty of opportunity to knock this one wide open, and they didn't do it.

They didn't deserve to win it, and they didn't.


Regroup, reattach arms, and aim for a series win

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
lol that was tonight.

LOL! That's what happens when you watch a game on your lunch break, return to work and then see the same game going on 4 hours later.

:laugh:

Phhhl
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
You don't treat a player who clearly isn't Barry Bonds (circa 2002) like Barry Bonds. Nobody deserves that kind of respect, even a great young one like Howard.

Tough loss that could have lasting repercussions. Wonder who pitches tomorrow...

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
Listen Ryan Howard is not God. Like all baseball players he fails more then he suceeds. If he makes an out (odds says he will), then the pitcher will most likely make an out, and you have 2 outs with runners on 1st and 2nd.

sometimes Narron out thinks himself.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
The Reds had plenty of opportunity to knock this one wide open, and they didn't do it.

They didn't deserve to win it, and they didn't.

they gave it away twice and you rarely get a 3rd opportunity. This team may have just fallen off the cliff.

Wheelhouse
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
The Reds had the runs to win, the bullpen and defense gave the game away and then Narron short circuited in the 14th.

Griffey/Dunn tonight:

0-11, 4Ks, 8 LOB

Horrid. We needed just a little bit from them...

remdog
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
my point is there is no difference made in the rule book.

"with a man on 1st and 2nd or 1st,2nd, and 3rd with one out or no out and the ball hit on the fly in the infield, the batter is automaticly out."

For it to be ruled an infield fly the umpire must call it. IIRC, the umpire believes the ball was dropped on purpose he can call the batter out and return the runners to their bases.

Rem

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
Phils had 23 baserunners tonight and 18 from the 7th inning onward!

They should have won this game in every inning from the 10th onward.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
You don't treat a player who clearly isn't Barry Bonds (circa 2002) like Barry Bonds. Nobody deserves that kind of respect, even a great young one like Howard.

Tough loss that could have lasting repercussions. Wonder who pitches tomorrow...say hello to Joe Mays back to Cincy and EZ back to AAA

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
In January this is the game we will talk about that was the beginning to the end. I have lost my mojo after tonight boys....I really have.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Could be worse

;)

Red in Chicago
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Ross doesn't make an erroneous throw to second in the bottom of the 9th, and this converstation isn't taking place, and that game is over an hour and a half ago.

The Reds had plenty of opportunity to knock this one wide open, and they didn't do it.

They didn't deserve to win it, and they didn't.


Regroup, reattach arms, and aim for a series win


why couldn't larue have been brought in for defense?

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Griffey/Dunn tonight:

0-11, 4Ks, 8 LOB

Horrid.

Encarnacion 2-3 with 2 homeruns and 3 RBIs was sitting on the bench after being replaced by Castro.

:help:

alloverjr
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Listen Ryan Howard is not God. Like all baseball players he fails more then he suceeds. If he makes an out (odds says he will), then the pitcher will most likely make an out, and you have 2 outs with runners on 1st and 2nd.

sometimes Narron out thinks himself.

The decision to pitch EZ in that situation makes those odds swing heavily in the Phil's favor. The IBB is lunacy, pitching EZ in the 14th is plain goofy.

cReds1
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
Griffey/Dunn tonight:

0-11, 4Ks, 8 LOB

Horrid.

Contract extension material. :evil:

oregonred
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
say hello to Joe Mays back to Cincy and EZ back to AAA

Say hello to NFL Direct Ticket and College GamePlan :bang:

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
For it to be ruled an infield fly the umpire must call it. IIRC, the umpire believes the ball was dropped on purpose he can call the batter out and return the runners to their bases.

Rem

exactly. Aurilla droping the ball is moot.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
Griffey/Dunn tonight:

0-11, 4Ks, 8 LOB

Horrid. We needed just a little bit from them...
Add BP in there and it's 0-17.

There was 1 guy doing anything on offense and that was Edwin, but Narron decided to pull him.

alloverjr
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
Phils had 23 baserunners tonight and 18 from the 7th inning onward!

They should have won this game in every inning from the 10th onward.

That's the much improved bullpen you're referring to. :)

RedsMan3203
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
say hello to Joe Mays back to Cincy and EZ back to AAA


Thats what I asked.... I could see EZ and Lohse both sent down tomorrow to get 2 extra arms.... or atleast 1 starter on full rest and 1 bullpen arm.

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Griffey/Dunn tonight:

0-11, 4Ks, 8 LOB

Horrid.and yet ....

it wouldn't have mattered on bit without a dropped fly ball and a throwing error from the catcher.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:53 AM
say hello to Joe Mays back to Cincy and EZ back to AAA
Homer Bailey

clap clap clap clap clap

flyer85
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Thats what I asked.... I could see EZ and Lohse both sent down tomorrow to get 2 extra arms.... or atleast 1 starter on full rest and 1 bullpen arm.Lohse is going nowhere, you realize a pitcher can't come back for 10 days.

cReds1
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
and yet ....

it wouldn't have mattered on bit without a dropped fly ball and a throwing error from the catcher.

so it is the catcher's fault due to the best players were Ofers? get real.

George Foster
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Homer Bailey

clap clap clap clap clap

It's time....the "future" is NOW

RedsMan3203
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Homer Bailey

clap clap clap clap clap

When was his last start and when is he due to start again? :evil:

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:55 AM
so it is the catcher's fault due to the best players were Ofers? get real.
Griffey is nowhere near the best player on this team

Edwin, Dunn, Hatteberg, and Freel are all better. Ross might be better.

RedsMan3203
08-12-2006, 12:55 AM
Lohse is going nowhere, you realize a pitcher can't come back for 10 days.


I did not - thats why I was asking. Thanks.

reds44
08-12-2006, 12:55 AM
When was his last start and when is he due to start again? :evil:
He started on Tuesday so that makes tomorrow his day.

:devil:

cReds1
08-12-2006, 12:56 AM
Griffey is nowhere near the best player on this team

Edwin, Dunn, Hatteberg, and Freel are all better. Ross might be better.

i am being sarcastic.