08/17/06: Redlegs @ Cardinals Game Thread ... Reds lose 2-1

[reds44]

What an AB.

[Cedric]

The kid!

What an at bat.

[Matt700wlw]

:griffey:

:jump:

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior homers. 1-0 Reds!!!

[GullyFoyle]

Yes!!!!!

[flyer85]

maybe Weaver will collapse from fatigue after Jr is done with him

[MaineRed]

J U N I O R !

[redsmetz]

Wahooo!!! I love Nuxxie calling a home run!

[TheBurn]

There it is !!! JR :jump:

[GridironGrace]

Griffey:

Ball
Ball
Strike
Foul 2-2
Ball Full Count
Fouls off 6th pitch
Fouls off 7th pitch
Fouls off 8th pitch Still 3-2
Fouls off another... GET HIM JR!!!!!
Woowhooo Fouls off another 11th pitch coming
Foul still 3-2 12th pitch coming


HOMERUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATTA BOY JR!!!!!!

Reds lead 1-0 0 on 0 outs edwin batting

[reds44]

Junior!!!!!

[Cyclone792]

Reds batters need to do a better job of working the count and laying off Weaver's junk out of the strike zone.

Get into hitter's counts, don't be afraid to take a walk and give Weaver every opportunity to make a mistake - which he'll do frequently - and then crush the mistake.

Lohse is pitching brilliantly. Hopefully the offense takes advantage of it today.

Hmmm ... Junior works the count, laid off and/or fouled off Weaver's junk out of the strike zone and gave Weaver the opportunity to make a mistake.

Weaver made a mistake, Junior capitalizes!

That's just OUTSTANDING hitting!

[Red Leader]

I almost called that. Glad I didn't because it probably wouldn't have happened.

[Gallen5862]

Junior with a Homerun.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

How many pitches before he went yard?

[Matt700wlw]

12 pitch at bat

[Reds Fanatic]

#561 for Junior.

[RedsFan75]

Now we talkin

[Wheelhouse]

That is what I refer to as "blue chip" hitting--team is being 1-hit, 12 pitch at bat, ends in HR. Go Jr!

[OldXOhio]

What an at bat by Junior!!!

[GridironGrace]

Griffey:

Ball
Ball
Strike
Foul 2-2
Ball Full Count
Fouls off 6th pitch
Fouls off 7th pitch
Fouls off 8th pitch Still 3-2
Fouls off another... GET HIM JR!!!!!
Woowhooo Fouls off another 11th pitch coming
Foul still 3-2 12th pitch coming


HOMERUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATTA BOY JR!!!!!!

Reds lead 1-0 0 on 0 outs edwin batting

and RZ lagging lol

[flyer85]

The chief appears, hopefully he doesn't leave yet

[GullyFoyle]

Bad Call by ump...

[MaineRed]

I almost called that. Glad I didn't because it probably wouldn't have happened.

Don't worry, Al Hrbrosky did it for you, AFTER the HR.

"You could see that one coming."

[GridironGrace]

Edwin Struck out... Dunn lines out.. RZ lagging so didnt get to do the PBP lol

[Wheelhouse]

Dunn robbed of a single by Pujols

[Cedric]

Dale Scott wants to go home.

I'm ok with that now that it's 1-0.

[reds44]

80 pitches for Kyle

[RedsFan75]

Wha happened

[Matt700wlw]

That homer was for Junior's parents

:beerme:

[GridironGrace]

Aurillia: 0 on 2 outs

Called Strike
Swinging Strike


Aurilia Grounds out to 1B

Going to the Bot of the 7th and the Reds have a 1-0 Lead Thanks to Jr's 13th pitch HR

[GullyFoyle]

100 pitches for Weaver at the middle of the 7th

(not 1000) :)

[GridironGrace]

That inning took Weaver above the 100 pitch mark and im sure that AB took some steam off his arm :)

[guttle11]

1000 pitches for Weaver at the middle of the 7th

Goodness.

[reds44]

For the love of all that is holy I hope Loshe can keep pitching well.

[Matt700wlw]

Tom Brady's linked to Balco....?

...what?

That's what ESPN's Outside the Lines show is saying...

Sorry...back to baseball

[Matt700wlw]

Well that didn't take long......

Let's start from scratch!

[flyer85]

that lead didn't last long

[GridironGrace]

Rolen: 0 on 0 outs

Ball
Ball
Swinging Strike
Ball
Foul 3-2
Foul


bah!!!!

Rolen Homers.. 1-1 Game now 0 outs encarnacion batting

[NJReds]

Tom Brady's linked to Balco....?

...what?

That's what ESPN's Outside the Lines show is saying...

Sorry...back to baseball

Here's the report.


Bonds' trainer says jail threat won't break his silence, evokes Tom Brady's name

By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer
August 17, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Barry Bonds' personal trainer may go back to jail for refusing again to testify about his acquaintances before a grand jury. What he told federal prosecutors, however, has dragged Tom Brady's name into the BALCO case.

In a June statement to prosecutors about his intentions to stay mum, Greg Anderson said he and the New England Patriots quarterback had spoken over the phone -- but never established further contact.

"I had only one brief conversation with Tom Brady regarding a potential future workout," Anderson said. "I never had another phone conversation with him and never discussed it with anyone."

Anderson also told federal prosecutors June 23 that he would continue to withhold testimony from a newly assembled grand jury that is reportedly also investigating track coach Trevor Graham.

"I will not ever make statements about other people," Anderson said in the statement, which was included in court documents unsealed Wednesday. "That has always been my position and will continue to be."

On Thursday, prosecutors planned to ask U.S. District Judge William Alsup to send Anderson to prison if he stands by that policy.

Paula Canny, an Anderson attorney and friend, said Brady's name appears along with "10 to 20" other athletes that Anderson's grand jury subpoena lists as people the trainer should be prepared to answer questions about. Canny said investigators may have gotten Brady's name from Anderson's phone records seized by the government, though Anderson doesn't refer to any other athletes in his brief statement.

Brady attended the same Bay Area high school as Bonds. His agent, Donald Yee, couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday, and the New England Patriots declined comment on Anderson's statement.

"I don't have any information on it," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said. "I'm not going on hearsay."

[dsmith421]

It may be time to yank Lohse. No sense in losing this lead now.

[GridironGrace]

Encarnacion: 0 on 0 outs

Called strike
Called Strike


Encarnacion Singles on GB to 3B

[Matt700wlw]

Tub of goo up...

[Cyclone792]

Like Griffey's HR, that was just a great PA by Rolen. Got ahead of the count early, fouled a few off, then crushed a mistake pitch.

As a hitter, working the count to your advantage is absolutely crucial. As a pitcher, it's just as important to prevent that from happening.

[Puffy]

That Rolen dude - he can play.

[flyer85]

one more batter reaches and I would make a change. The bottom of this order is far from scary.

[Matt700wlw]

Coffey and Cormier warming....

[vaticanplum]

Side note: Rich Aurilia has more home runs on the season than Barry Bonds :lol:

Ok, carry on. win.

[Matt700wlw]

Tub of goo strikes out...

[GridironGrace]

Belliard: Encarnacion on 1st 0 outs

...Pickoff Attempt 1B
Ball
...Pickoff Attempt 1B
Ball
...Pickoff Attempt 1B(Get the batter)
...Pickoff Attempt 1B(Lohse worried?)
Foul(Runner Going)
Foul 2-2


Belliard Stands in for a Strikeout

1 down 1 on

[Cyclone792]

Double play!

Inning over.

[Cedric]

Standing ovation for Kyle Lohse.

Not a great Cardinal lineup but he pitched exactly like we need him to.

[reds44]

Nice play by Loshe and look at the turn by Rich!

[membengal]

Kyle Lohse has been heaven sent. 7 innings of one run ball like he has thrown today is coming up ginormous in a ginormous situation.

[dsmith421]

One mistake for Lohse today. Nine times out of ten he'd be the winner easily. Tough luck.

[Matt700wlw]

Excellent outing by Kyle Loshe...it'd be nice if the offense can set him up for the win.


So far, so good on that trade!

[GullyFoyle]

Not to beat it into the ground but some nice pitching today and what is turning out to be a great game...

[flyer85]

as a side note for any golf fans

Davis Love is -6 for his first 7 holes at the PGA

[TheBurn]

Awesome!
But I have this feeling we're on 'borrowed time' here...
NEED SOME RUNS NOW!

[flyer85]

I am a bit surprised Weaver back out there.

[Matt700wlw]

B-Phil!!

[Cedric]

Can Joe call the rest of the game please?

I'm not usually a whiner about Steve, but jeez he's bad.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Lohse through three starts:

18.1 IP
15 H
2 BB
.93 WHIP
21 K
4 ER
1.96 ERA

I have been highly critical of Krivsky, but these three starts have already justified the trade for Lohse.

Wow!

[TheBurn]

Here we go...

[Cyclone792]

Leadoff double for Phillips, which is exactly what we could use right now.

Now the guys behind him need to do their job and make sure we score this inning.

[reds44]

Get B-Phil home!

[flyer85]

Phillips!!Tony must not have much faith in the pen

[NJReds]

Phillies lose today to the Metropolitans...7-2

[GridironGrace]

Aight lets get the run back

Phillips with a leadoff 2B

lets go Ross

[flyer85]

Get B-Phil home!and about three more

[Matt700wlw]

Javy on deck

[deltachi8]

yes, nice job by KL, i apologize for my signature...for now, and hopefully for the rest o fthe season.

[Chip R]

Tony must not have much faith in the pen

I think he'll bring a lefty in to face Hollandsworth.

[flyer85]

I'd let the man swing the bat

[GullyFoyle]

Not liking the bunt here...

[vaticanplum]

Seriously? A bunt?

[flyer85]

Hollandsworth.ahhhhh, not him.

The Reds have an awful bench today.

[GridironGrace]

here we gooooo roooosssss here we go

[flyer85]

with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

[Red Leader]

ARZ mounting a comeback vs the Rocks. 6-3 now.

[reds44]

Nice job Ross!

Come on Javy.

[Chip R]

Seriously? A bunt?
It's the scrappy thing to do.

[GridironGrace]

This is a 1 run ball game...

Bunt is NEEDED.. get the runner to third.. as he did :) yAY!!!

now a sac fly or a hit and we get the run back and a win chance for loshe

[flyer85]

Reds do not have a single quality RH bat on the bench

[Cedric]

with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

Play for the run on the road.

[Cyclone792]

Valentin is pinch hitting for Lohse.

Excellent outing again for Lohse. I'm loving the strikeouts he's piling up while also avoiding the walks. It's a bit too much to ask for Lohse to continue pitching this well the remainder of the season, but if he can give us some more solid starts down the stretch, it will be a godsend.

[GridironGrace]

so you bat Javy vs a LHP here?

[reds44]

We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

[registerthis]

Lohse through three starts:

18.1 IP
15 H
2 BB
.93 WHIP
21 K
4 ER
1.96 ERA

I have been highly critical of Krivsky, but these three starts have already justified the trade for Lohse.

Wow!

All impressive #'s, but the K to BB ratio is superb.

Excellent game by Lohse today...exactly what this team needed.

[redsfan30]

Please, please, please don't send Hollandsworth up there for Valentin!!!

Pretty please?

[BRM]

with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

The book says bunt and play for one run.

[Falls City Beer]

Wow. I'll bet a bunch of money that they don't score this run from third. I hate bunts.

[GridironGrace]

I'll get bashed for this but i think u let Larue face the LHP

[Cedric]

We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

I believe Wainright was brought in from LaRussa. At least that is what Steve said.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

I'd rather clayton hit against a lefty than JV.

[GridironGrace]

nvm.. RHP :)

lets go JAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chip R]

Tony's bringing a righty? Has he lost his ever-loving mind?

[Matt700wlw]

We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

LaRue is a righty bat.

Doesn't mean he'd actually hit the ball...

[dsmith421]

Maybe he figures Wainwright gives him the best chance at a K. Otherwise, it's certainly a head-scratcher.

[reds44]

Javy is gonna hit lefty!

Why did he bring in a rhp?

[flyer85]

of course the Reds don't have a RH flyball bat to send up here

[redsfan30]

Horrible at bat.

[flyer85]

The book says bunt and play for one run.the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

[dsmith421]

Thanks, Javy. Please DFA yourself. Unfreakingbelievably poor hitting.

[Puffy]

Well, that sucked

[reds44]

He looks at two strikes and swings at a ball.

[Chip R]

of course the Reds don't have a RH flyball bat to send up here

If he'd started Aurilia at 3rd we could have EE coming off the bench. :devil:

[Matt700wlw]

the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

The Reds don't have the worst bullpen in the league...

[flyer85]

This also highlights that when RA is in the lineup the PH is non-existant.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Why is he up there? Why?

[BRM]

the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

The bullpen's been improved. I read it in a newspaper. ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Thanks, Javy. Please DFA yourself. Unfreakingbelievably poor hitting.

Yeah, let's get rid of him.....

[flyer85]

The Reds don't have the worst bullpen in the league...ok, ok, 15th, next to the worst

[Matt700wlw]

wow.

[flyer85]

The bullpen's been improved. I read it in a newspaper. ;)lotta smoke but no one has found the fire

[dsmith421]

Yeah, let's get rid of him.....

Actually, yeah, let's do. He stinks. 2005 was a complete aberration for that guy, and he's holding down a roster spot that could be filled by someone who can actually hit.

LaRue too, of course, but he makes way too much to release.

[reds44]

Pathetic.

[Puffy]

Well, that sucked.

Oh well.

[Cedric]

What a situational hitting team we've got here.

Did anyone honestly think Javy would hit the ball there? I guess looking back you shouldn't bunt Ross when you have such a horrendous bench.

[Matt700wlw]

ok, ok, 15th, next to the worst

I'm not going to say it's near the top, but it's not that bad either....


The Cardinals pen has been known to have it's own issues as well...

[reds44]

Actually, yeah, let's do. He stinks. 2005 was a complete aberration for that guy, and he's holding down a roster spot that could be filled by someone who can actually hit.
I'd rahter have Javy then LaBad.

[GullyFoyle]

Griffey is seeing the ball well today...

Maybe we can get a repeat of his HR in the 9th

[Falls City Beer]

Wow. Shocking.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

What a waste of a leadoff double.

Waste an out and leave it in JV's hands.

Yuck.

[guttle11]

Hey guys, can we actually tell what's going on in the game once in a while?

[Matt700wlw]

Did anyone honestly think Javy would hit the ball there? I guess looking back you shouldn't bunt Ross when you have such a horrendous bench.

He's been a clutch pinch hitter....just not there.

[flyer85]

what do you expect.

I for one like the idea of Ross against a tiring Weaver intead of the other guys against Wainwright. I guess Jerry and his book didn't.

[LincolnparkRed]

I wonder if Narron needs a new book to manage by. We seem to strand quite a few runners on third b/c we can't hit a sac fly. Since we seem to be a homer dominant team just let the guys swing away and we'll see what shakes loose

[Red Leader]

Game tied 1-1 headed to the bottom of the 8th.

Molina
Pitchers spot
Eckstein

Due up.

[membengal]

That's where an extra bat off the bench instead of the third catcher might come in handy.

Ah well, come on bullpen.

[dsmith421]

Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?

[reds44]

Hey guys, can we actually tell what's going on in the game once in a while?
You can't use gamecast?

[flyer85]

I'm not going to say it's near the top, but it's not that bad either....only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

[Matt700wlw]

Ross bunting wasn't a bad idea....it did it's job.

The guys behind him didn't.


He should have just struck out swinging...in the end it wouldn't have mattered.

[flyer85]

Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?he likes that gopher ball tendency.

as long as he doesn't face Duncan

[vaticanplum]

This game is not over and I'm overjoyed about Lohse. But as a general note, this is probably the most frustrating sports team I have ever followed. I almost miss the days when they were just a charmingly pathetic team, making us shake our heads with their constant whimsical foibles (but not really. if I truly enjoyed that, I'd be a Cubs fan.)

[Matt700wlw]

only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

I didn't say it was great....I do think it's better than it was...


How'd Philly's do?

[LincolnparkRed]

only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

They still scare me when the lead is more than four like last night

[smith288]

You can't use gamecast?
Gamecast is easy and runs along just fine along side RedsZone.

They actually pay people to follow the game and update the boxscores as we banter about the game

[RedsFan75]

This game is not over and I'm overjoyed about Lohse. But as a general note, this is probably the most frustrating sports team I have ever followed. I almost miss the days when they were just a charmingly pathetic team, making us shake our heads with their constant whimsical foibles (but not really. if I truly enjoyed that, I'd be a Cubs fan.)

LOL that's great!!!

[flyer85]

Ross bunting wasn't a bad idea....it did it's job.
it's all about matchups. You play to get the ones you like and try to take advantage of them instead of passing them up for worse ones.

[registerthis]

Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?

Going for that come-from-behind 9th inning win, I suppose.

[Matt700wlw]

it's all about matchups. You play to get the ones you like and try to take advantage of them instead of passing them up for worse ones.


Ross is better against lefties, I think.

[Kc61]

When Wainright is on, he's very tough. At least he's out of the game now. Valentin has done a good job as backup catcher/ph this year. Disappointing at bat, but credit the pitcher.

Very interesting selection of Franklin. Narron obviously wants to stick with righty pitchers against Cards with Edmonds out. Coffey and Weathers worked yesterday.

Nailbiter.

[Matt700wlw]

Freel!!!!!!!!!!

[reds44]

Freel!!!!!!!

[paulrichjr]

Just awesome!

[Cyclone792]

Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.

[BrooklynRedz]

OK. I'm sold. Give Freel a Gold Glove. Wow.

[registerthis]

Austin who?

[MaineRed]

Going for that come-from-behind 9th inning win, I suppose.

Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.

[BRM]

Ross is better against lefties, I think.

Ross against a tired Weaver is a better matchup than Javy against Wainwright.

[vaticanplum]

Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.

Freel was overdue for a life-threatening catch.

[paulrichjr]

Freel made another gem!

[flyer85]

Ross is better against lefties, I think.Yes he is but I sure liked the idea of Ross against a tiring Weaver instead of Javy and whoever against Wainwright (who is the Birds best reliever).

[dsmith421]

When Wainright is on, he's very tough. At least he's out of the game now.

Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

[GullyFoyle]

He needs to be in center next year... (or sooner ;) )

[RedsFan75]

Austin who?

Powers?? :D

[MaineRed]

Nice catch by Freel. It was about a 7 on the Ryan Freel scale.

A 9 on anyone else's.

[oneupper]

Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.


A fine catch. Freel ran to his right (towards center) and laid out to catch the ball about a foot off the ground. Very nice diving catch.

[reds44]

Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.
Boy you really like jumping all over peoples opinons don't you?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Let's get a few right here (just to be safe).

[CTA513]

Yup, stupid Narron.


:thumbup:

[max venable]

Isringhausen in.

[BRM]

Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.

It worked so Narron is a genius.

[paulrichjr]

Izzy in

[Kc61]

Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?


Timo pinch hit. Izzy now pitching for Cards.

[Matt700wlw]

Ross against a tired Weaver is a better matchup than Javy against Wainwright.

Didn't Tony change pitchers AFTER Javy was announced?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

Timo Perez.

[LincolnparkRed]

Gotta like our chances vs. Izzy

[BRM]

Didn't Tony change pitchers AFTER Javy was announced?

He may have. I don't know.

[NJReds]

Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

No, Timo Perez hit for him. Although I could see where they might be confused. ;)

[flyer85]

Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Let's get a few right here (just to be safe).will Narron plan two use two pitchers? (a LHP for Duncan and then a RHP for those following)

[flyer85]

I also guess LaRussa really doesn't trust his LH relievers in this spot

[BRM]

will Narron plan two use two pitchers? (a LHP for Duncan and then a RHP for those following)

Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?

[max venable]

Hatte grounds out to 1st.

[reds44]

Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?
Shackel..........


oh wait

[Matt700wlw]

He may have. I don't know.

I can't remember either.

Oh well...it's the 9th inning now in a tie game.

[vaticanplum]

Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Would it be imprudent for me to point out that this is not ideal for us?

[reds44]

I hate it when he does that.

[Falls City Beer]

Izzy's keeping the ball down. That's trouble for the Reds.

[max venable]

jr. grounds to 2nd

[Matt700wlw]

Edwin could be HUGE right here...

[LincolnparkRed]

Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?

Not Schoenweis

[flyer85]

He may have. I don't know.the thing is that Larussa liked a Wainwright/Javy matchup better than a LHP/Reds bad RH pinch hitters matchup and without a doubt Javy is the best bat on the bench.

[TheBigLebowski]

I hate first-pitch swings.

[Matt700wlw]

Would it be imprudent for me to point out that this is not ideal for us?

...not for those who don't follow baseball closely :D

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Not Schoenweis

I bet it's him.

[reds44]

I've got a bad feeling.

[max venable]

3 up, 3 down. Ouch.

[TheBigLebowski]

Inning was too easy.

[flyer85]

Reds back to their warp speed ways, gotta catch that plane. I would say they are likely to get the opportunity shortly.

[Matt700wlw]

I don't ask for much.....but I'm asking/begging/pleading that the Cards don't win this thing now...

[Fullboat]

I hate first-pitch swings.

I hate swinging at 3-1 Counts.:angry:

[max venable]

Yeah...this game is HUGE for both teams.

[dsmith421]

Call it a reverse-jinx, but I don't see this one going extras. We had a great chance and totally blew it.

[flyer85]

who is pitching?

[Matt700wlw]

Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

[max venable]

lead-off batter on...Uh-oh.

[Cedric]

Duncan base hit.

Franklin still in.

Thanks Jerry.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

The odds aren't in our favor right now, do doubt.

You just just gotta believe. Cowboy up and all that good stuff.

[reds44]

He left Franklin in.

He's playing with fire.

[GullyFoyle]

not a good feeling here...

[membengal]

Gonna have to rely on updates from you guys, I simply cannot listen to Mike Shannon this inning. Particularly if the Cards go ahead and score. Just too cruel and unusual.

[RedsFan75]

Franklin

[BRM]

Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

Jerry only has 12 lefties at his disposal.

[MaineRed]

Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

It will make more sense when you see Milton warming in the 15th.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Gee, Duncan gets his 3rd hit.

Who'd a thunk it?

[flyer85]

Jerry has once again lost his marbles. The mistakes just never seem to end. Why acquire a LOOGY if you don't use them?

WK should acquire a few more

[Cyclone792]

Count's already 3-0 on Pujols.

And he walks him.

[membengal]

Is he taking out Franklin against Pujols? Please tell me he is.

[max venable]

Franklin behind in the count 3-0

[TheBigLebowski]

People wonder why we despise Narron.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Lose - down 2.5
Win down .5

This inning is worth two games, right here.

[max venable]

walk. Winning run in scoring position...no outs.

[Matt700wlw]

Brilliant :rolleyes:


Jerry must not know what inning it is....

[Cedric]

I'm calling a triple play!

Who's with me?

[reds44]

He just put the winning run at 2nd for Rolen with basically an intentional walk.

stupid.

[BrooklynRedz]

Awesome! Winning run on 2nd. Suh-weet! :bash:

[flyer85]

Narrons problem is just because Franklin has a couple of decent outings he actually thinks he is a good reliever (he isn't)

[OldXOhio]

Within 1/2 a game would have been nice...oh well

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Why did they let Franklin pitch to Reds killer (Duncan)? Why not a lefty?

[Matt700wlw]

Lose - down 2.5
Win down .5

This inning is worth two games, right here.

You had me scratching my head for a second, but yeah...it makes sense now.


This sucks :(

[TheBigLebowski]

I really don't get this guy. I don't.

[Falls City Beer]

Narron's way worse than Miley or McKeon in his reluctance to make a pitching switch.

[flyer85]

People wonder why we despise Narron.he gets the no-brainer stuff wrong in just the biggest game of the year.

[paulrichjr]

Narron has someone warming up. Why? He is an idiot

[max venable]

It'll be a miracle if we take this game to extras.

[dsmith421]

Biggest game of the year and we're going down with a steroid cheat with no stuff on the hill.

[TheBigLebowski]

I thought the standard move here was to walk the bases loaded if there are no outs - see: PHI game.

[Matt700wlw]

We lose.

This sucks.


I'm pissed.

[kyred14]

Knew that was coming...

oh well.

[flyer85]

Narron's way worse than Miley or McKeon in his reluctance to make a pitching switch.he never plans to use multiple pitchers in an inning and only does so when it is way too late.

He should intentionally walk Rolen here

[max venable]

game over.

[Cedric]

How can anyone defend Jerry Narron today?

I don't even wanna hear it.

[vaticanplum]

What happened?

[reds44]

Narron loses another one.

[max venable]

we've just given the Cards a bunch of momentum and confidence thankyouverymuch

[BRM]

At least Jerry made the Cards beat his best reliever...oh wait. :help:

[membengal]

That was really, really, really puzzling.

I am sorry, I really try to like and accept Narron, I do. But stuff like this just leaves me short of any way to understand. I have nothing. Just nothing. Absolutely indefensible.

[Cyclone792]

What happened?

Single to right scored the winning run.

[flyer85]

Knew that was coming...

oh well.Narron didn't.

Man is a complete joke as a manager. Larussa went with his two best releif pitchers. Narron lost with a guy who is likely his worst.

[redsmetz]

Bummer! :cry:

[TRF]

Kriv lost this one by trading for the dung pile that is Franklin.

Ugh.

[flyer85]

Honestly, it never even crossed my mind that he would let Franklin pitch the 9th. I never even considered it as a possibility.

[max venable]

didn't even record a single out in the 9th. Ugly.

[RedsFan75]

Narron!!!!
:bang: :angry: :angry: :yikes: :explode: :censored:

[oneupper]

What happened?
Rolen singles to right. Freel's throw is towards first. Duncan scores. Cards win. Reds lose.

Put this one on the offense. One run and three hits against Weaver et al is unacceptable.

[paulrichjr]

Narron should be fired. Say what you want about larussa but he made good moves. Narron is an idiot

[flyer85]

Kriv lost this one by trading for the dung pile that is Franklin.

Ugh.no it is all on Narron, he should never have been out there in the 9th.