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reds44
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
What an AB.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
The kid!

What an at bat.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
:griffey:

:jump:

Reds Fanatic
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Junior homers. 1-0 Reds!!!

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Yes!!!!!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
maybe Weaver will collapse from fatigue after Jr is done with him

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
J U N I O R !

redsmetz
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Wahooo!!! I love Nuxxie calling a home run!

TheBurn
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
There it is !!! JR :jump:

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Griffey:

Ball
Ball
Strike
Foul 2-2
Ball Full Count
Fouls off 6th pitch
Fouls off 7th pitch
Fouls off 8th pitch Still 3-2
Fouls off another... GET HIM JR!!!!!
Woowhooo Fouls off another 11th pitch coming
Foul still 3-2 12th pitch coming


HOMERUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATTA BOY JR!!!!!!

Reds lead 1-0 0 on 0 outs edwin batting

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Junior!!!!!

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Reds batters need to do a better job of working the count and laying off Weaver's junk out of the strike zone.

Get into hitter's counts, don't be afraid to take a walk and give Weaver every opportunity to make a mistake - which he'll do frequently - and then crush the mistake.

Lohse is pitching brilliantly. Hopefully the offense takes advantage of it today.

Hmmm ... Junior works the count, laid off and/or fouled off Weaver's junk out of the strike zone and gave Weaver the opportunity to make a mistake.

Weaver made a mistake, Junior capitalizes!

That's just OUTSTANDING hitting!

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
I almost called that. Glad I didn't because it probably wouldn't have happened.

Gallen5862
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Junior with a Homerun.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
How many pitches before he went yard?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
12 pitch at bat

Reds Fanatic
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
#561 for Junior.

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
Now we talkin

Wheelhouse
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
That is what I refer to as "blue chip" hitting--team is being 1-hit, 12 pitch at bat, ends in HR. Go Jr!

OldXOhio
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
What an at bat by Junior!!!

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
Griffey:

Ball
Ball
Strike
Foul 2-2
Ball Full Count
Fouls off 6th pitch
Fouls off 7th pitch
Fouls off 8th pitch Still 3-2
Fouls off another... GET HIM JR!!!!!
Woowhooo Fouls off another 11th pitch coming
Foul still 3-2 12th pitch coming


HOMERUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATTA BOY JR!!!!!!

Reds lead 1-0 0 on 0 outs edwin batting

and RZ lagging lol

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:40 PM
The chief appears, hopefully he doesn't leave yet

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:41 PM
Bad Call by ump...

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:42 PM
I almost called that. Glad I didn't because it probably wouldn't have happened.

Don't worry, Al Hrbrosky did it for you, AFTER the HR.

"You could see that one coming."

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:42 PM
Edwin Struck out... Dunn lines out.. RZ lagging so didnt get to do the PBP lol

Wheelhouse
08-17-2006, 04:42 PM
Dunn robbed of a single by Pujols

Cedric
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
Dale Scott wants to go home.

I'm ok with that now that it's 1-0.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
80 pitches for Kyle

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
Wha happened

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
That homer was for Junior's parents

:beerme:

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Aurillia: 0 on 2 outs

Called Strike
Swinging Strike


Aurilia Grounds out to 1B

Going to the Bot of the 7th and the Reds have a 1-0 Lead Thanks to Jr's 13th pitch HR

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:44 PM
100 pitches for Weaver at the middle of the 7th

(not 1000) :)

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:45 PM
That inning took Weaver above the 100 pitch mark and im sure that AB took some steam off his arm :)

guttle11
08-17-2006, 04:45 PM
1000 pitches for Weaver at the middle of the 7th

Goodness.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:46 PM
For the love of all that is holy I hope Loshe can keep pitching well.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:46 PM
Tom Brady's linked to Balco....?

...what?

That's what ESPN's Outside the Lines show is saying...

Sorry...back to baseball

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Well that didn't take long......

Let's start from scratch!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:48 PM
that lead didn't last long

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:48 PM
Rolen: 0 on 0 outs

Ball
Ball
Swinging Strike
Ball
Foul 3-2
Foul


bah!!!!

Rolen Homers.. 1-1 Game now 0 outs encarnacion batting

NJReds
08-17-2006, 04:49 PM
Tom Brady's linked to Balco....?

...what?

That's what ESPN's Outside the Lines show is saying...

Sorry...back to baseball

Here's the report.


Bonds' trainer says jail threat won't break his silence, evokes Tom Brady's name

By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer
August 17, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Barry Bonds' personal trainer may go back to jail for refusing again to testify about his acquaintances before a grand jury. What he told federal prosecutors, however, has dragged Tom Brady's name into the BALCO case.

In a June statement to prosecutors about his intentions to stay mum, Greg Anderson said he and the New England Patriots quarterback had spoken over the phone -- but never established further contact.

"I had only one brief conversation with Tom Brady regarding a potential future workout," Anderson said. "I never had another phone conversation with him and never discussed it with anyone."

Anderson also told federal prosecutors June 23 that he would continue to withhold testimony from a newly assembled grand jury that is reportedly also investigating track coach Trevor Graham.

"I will not ever make statements about other people," Anderson said in the statement, which was included in court documents unsealed Wednesday. "That has always been my position and will continue to be."

On Thursday, prosecutors planned to ask U.S. District Judge William Alsup to send Anderson to prison if he stands by that policy.

Paula Canny, an Anderson attorney and friend, said Brady's name appears along with "10 to 20" other athletes that Anderson's grand jury subpoena lists as people the trainer should be prepared to answer questions about. Canny said investigators may have gotten Brady's name from Anderson's phone records seized by the government, though Anderson doesn't refer to any other athletes in his brief statement.

Brady attended the same Bay Area high school as Bonds. His agent, Donald Yee, couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday, and the New England Patriots declined comment on Anderson's statement.

"I don't have any information on it," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said. "I'm not going on hearsay."

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 04:49 PM
It may be time to yank Lohse. No sense in losing this lead now.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:49 PM
Encarnacion: 0 on 0 outs

Called strike
Called Strike


Encarnacion Singles on GB to 3B

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Tub of goo up...

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Like Griffey's HR, that was just a great PA by Rolen. Got ahead of the count early, fouled a few off, then crushed a mistake pitch.

As a hitter, working the count to your advantage is absolutely crucial. As a pitcher, it's just as important to prevent that from happening.

Puffy
08-17-2006, 04:52 PM
That Rolen dude - he can play.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:52 PM
one more batter reaches and I would make a change. The bottom of this order is far from scary.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:53 PM
Coffey and Cormier warming....

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 04:53 PM
Side note: Rich Aurilia has more home runs on the season than Barry Bonds :lol:

Ok, carry on. win.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:53 PM
Tub of goo strikes out...

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Belliard: Encarnacion on 1st 0 outs

...Pickoff Attempt 1B
Ball
...Pickoff Attempt 1B
Ball
...Pickoff Attempt 1B(Get the batter)
...Pickoff Attempt 1B(Lohse worried?)
Foul(Runner Going)
Foul 2-2


Belliard Stands in for a Strikeout

1 down 1 on

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Double play!

Inning over.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Standing ovation for Kyle Lohse.

Not a great Cardinal lineup but he pitched exactly like we need him to.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Nice play by Loshe and look at the turn by Rich!

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Kyle Lohse has been heaven sent. 7 innings of one run ball like he has thrown today is coming up ginormous in a ginormous situation.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
One mistake for Lohse today. Nine times out of ten he'd be the winner easily. Tough luck.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Excellent outing by Kyle Loshe...it'd be nice if the offense can set him up for the win.


So far, so good on that trade!

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Not to beat it into the ground but some nice pitching today and what is turning out to be a great game...

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:55 PM
as a side note for any golf fans

Davis Love is -6 for his first 7 holes at the PGA

TheBurn
08-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Awesome!
But I have this feeling we're on 'borrowed time' here...
NEED SOME RUNS NOW!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:57 PM
I am a bit surprised Weaver back out there.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:57 PM
B-Phil!!

Cedric
08-17-2006, 04:57 PM
Can Joe call the rest of the game please?

I'm not usually a whiner about Steve, but jeez he's bad.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Lohse through three starts:

18.1 IP
15 H
2 BB
.93 WHIP
21 K
4 ER
1.96 ERA

I have been highly critical of Krivsky, but these three starts have already justified the trade for Lohse.

Wow!

TheBurn
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Here we go...

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Leadoff double for Phillips, which is exactly what we could use right now.

Now the guys behind him need to do their job and make sure we score this inning.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Get B-Phil home!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Phillips!!Tony must not have much faith in the pen

NJReds
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Phillies lose today to the Metropolitans...7-2

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Aight lets get the run back

Phillips with a leadoff 2B

lets go Ross

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Get B-Phil home!and about three more

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Javy on deck

deltachi8
08-17-2006, 04:59 PM
yes, nice job by KL, i apologize for my signature...for now, and hopefully for the rest o fthe season.

Chip R
08-17-2006, 04:59 PM
Tony must not have much faith in the pen

I think he'll bring a lefty in to face Hollandsworth.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:59 PM
I'd let the man swing the bat

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:59 PM
Not liking the bunt here...

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 05:00 PM
Seriously? A bunt?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:00 PM
Hollandsworth.ahhhhh, not him.

The Reds have an awful bench today.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 05:00 PM
here we gooooo roooosssss here we go

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
ARZ mounting a comeback vs the Rocks. 6-3 now.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
Nice job Ross!

Come on Javy.

Chip R
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
Seriously? A bunt?
It's the scrappy thing to do.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
This is a 1 run ball game...

Bunt is NEEDED.. get the runner to third.. as he did :) yAY!!!

now a sac fly or a hit and we get the run back and a win chance for loshe

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
Reds do not have a single quality RH bat on the bench

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

Play for the run on the road.

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
Valentin is pinch hitting for Lohse.

Excellent outing again for Lohse. I'm loving the strikeouts he's piling up while also avoiding the walks. It's a bit too much to ask for Lohse to continue pitching this well the remainder of the season, but if he can give us some more solid starts down the stretch, it will be a godsend.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
so you bat Javy vs a LHP here?

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

registerthis
08-17-2006, 05:02 PM
Lohse through three starts:

18.1 IP
15 H
2 BB
.93 WHIP
21 K
4 ER
1.96 ERA

I have been highly critical of Krivsky, but these three starts have already justified the trade for Lohse.

Wow!

All impressive #'s, but the K to BB ratio is superb.

Excellent game by Lohse today...exactly what this team needed.

redsfan30
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
Please, please, please don't send Hollandsworth up there for Valentin!!!

Pretty please?

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
with the Reds pen and two innings, no way I play for one run

The book says bunt and play for one run.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
Wow. I'll bet a bunch of money that they don't score this run from third. I hate bunts.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
I'll get bashed for this but i think u let Larue face the LHP

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

I believe Wainright was brought in from LaRussa. At least that is what Steve said.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
I'd rather clayton hit against a lefty than JV.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 05:03 PM
nvm.. RHP :)

lets go JAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chip R
08-17-2006, 05:04 PM
Tony's bringing a righty? Has he lost his ever-loving mind?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:04 PM
We have no righty bats off the bench. It would be nice to hvae Preston Wilson.

LaRue is a righty bat.

Doesn't mean he'd actually hit the ball...

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:04 PM
Maybe he figures Wainwright gives him the best chance at a K. Otherwise, it's certainly a head-scratcher.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:04 PM
Javy is gonna hit lefty!

Why did he bring in a rhp?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:05 PM
of course the Reds don't have a RH flyball bat to send up here

redsfan30
08-17-2006, 05:05 PM
Horrible at bat.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:05 PM
The book says bunt and play for one run.the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Thanks, Javy. Please DFA yourself. Unfreakingbelievably poor hitting.

Puffy
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Well, that sucked

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
He looks at two strikes and swings at a ball.

Chip R
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
of course the Reds don't have a RH flyball bat to send up here

If he'd started Aurilia at 3rd we could have EE coming off the bench. :devil:

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

The Reds don't have the worst bullpen in the league...

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
This also highlights that when RA is in the lineup the PH is non-existant.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:07 PM
Why is he up there? Why?

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:07 PM
the book didn't have the worst bullpen in the league .:help:

The bullpen's been improved. I read it in a newspaper. ;)

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:07 PM
Thanks, Javy. Please DFA yourself. Unfreakingbelievably poor hitting.

Yeah, let's get rid of him.....

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:07 PM
The Reds don't have the worst bullpen in the league...ok, ok, 15th, next to the worst

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:08 PM
wow.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:08 PM
The bullpen's been improved. I read it in a newspaper. ;)lotta smoke but no one has found the fire

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Yeah, let's get rid of him.....

Actually, yeah, let's do. He stinks. 2005 was a complete aberration for that guy, and he's holding down a roster spot that could be filled by someone who can actually hit.

LaRue too, of course, but he makes way too much to release.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Pathetic.

Puffy
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Well, that sucked.

Oh well.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
What a situational hitting team we've got here.

Did anyone honestly think Javy would hit the ball there? I guess looking back you shouldn't bunt Ross when you have such a horrendous bench.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
ok, ok, 15th, next to the worst

I'm not going to say it's near the top, but it's not that bad either....


The Cardinals pen has been known to have it's own issues as well...

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Actually, yeah, let's do. He stinks. 2005 was a complete aberration for that guy, and he's holding down a roster spot that could be filled by someone who can actually hit.
I'd rahter have Javy then LaBad.

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Griffey is seeing the ball well today...

Maybe we can get a repeat of his HR in the 9th

Falls City Beer
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Wow. Shocking.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
What a waste of a leadoff double.

Waste an out and leave it in JV's hands.

Yuck.

guttle11
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Hey guys, can we actually tell what's going on in the game once in a while?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:10 PM
Did anyone honestly think Javy would hit the ball there? I guess looking back you shouldn't bunt Ross when you have such a horrendous bench.

He's been a clutch pinch hitter....just not there.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:10 PM
what do you expect.

I for one like the idea of Ross against a tiring Weaver intead of the other guys against Wainwright. I guess Jerry and his book didn't.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 05:10 PM
I wonder if Narron needs a new book to manage by. We seem to strand quite a few runners on third b/c we can't hit a sac fly. Since we seem to be a homer dominant team just let the guys swing away and we'll see what shakes loose

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 05:10 PM
Game tied 1-1 headed to the bottom of the 8th.

Molina
Pitchers spot
Eckstein

Due up.

membengal
08-17-2006, 05:10 PM
That's where an extra bat off the bench instead of the third catcher might come in handy.

Ah well, come on bullpen.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:11 PM
Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:11 PM
Hey guys, can we actually tell what's going on in the game once in a while?
You can't use gamecast?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:11 PM
I'm not going to say it's near the top, but it's not that bad either....only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:12 PM
Ross bunting wasn't a bad idea....it did it's job.

The guys behind him didn't.


He should have just struck out swinging...in the end it wouldn't have mattered.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:12 PM
Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?he likes that gopher ball tendency.

as long as he doesn't face Duncan

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 05:12 PM
This game is not over and I'm overjoyed about Lohse. But as a general note, this is probably the most frustrating sports team I have ever followed. I almost miss the days when they were just a charmingly pathetic team, making us shake our heads with their constant whimsical foibles (but not really. if I truly enjoyed that, I'd be a Cubs fan.)

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:12 PM
only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

I didn't say it was great....I do think it's better than it was...


How'd Philly's do?

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 05:12 PM
only blew 4 leads in three games after the 7th inning in Philadelphia. There sure scare me whenever the lead is less than 4 runs.

They still scare me when the lead is more than four like last night

smith288
08-17-2006, 05:13 PM
You can't use gamecast?
Gamecast is easy and runs along just fine along side RedsZone.

They actually pay people to follow the game and update the boxscores as we banter about the game

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 05:13 PM
This game is not over and I'm overjoyed about Lohse. But as a general note, this is probably the most frustrating sports team I have ever followed. I almost miss the days when they were just a charmingly pathetic team, making us shake our heads with their constant whimsical foibles (but not really. if I truly enjoyed that, I'd be a Cubs fan.)

LOL that's great!!!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:13 PM
Ross bunting wasn't a bad idea....it did it's job.
it's all about matchups. You play to get the ones you like and try to take advantage of them instead of passing them up for worse ones.

registerthis
08-17-2006, 05:13 PM
Wait, did Narron really just bring in Ryan Franklin?

Going for that come-from-behind 9th inning win, I suppose.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:14 PM
it's all about matchups. You play to get the ones you like and try to take advantage of them instead of passing them up for worse ones.


Ross is better against lefties, I think.

Kc61
08-17-2006, 05:14 PM
When Wainright is on, he's very tough. At least he's out of the game now. Valentin has done a good job as backup catcher/ph this year. Disappointing at bat, but credit the pitcher.

Very interesting selection of Franklin. Narron obviously wants to stick with righty pitchers against Cards with Edmonds out. Coffey and Weathers worked yesterday.

Nailbiter.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:14 PM
Freel!!!!!!!!!!

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Freel!!!!!!!

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Just awesome!

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.

BrooklynRedz
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
OK. I'm sold. Give Freel a Gold Glove. Wow.

registerthis
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Austin who?

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Going for that come-from-behind 9th inning win, I suppose.

Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Ross is better against lefties, I think.

Ross against a tired Weaver is a better matchup than Javy against Wainwright.

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.

Freel was overdue for a life-threatening catch.

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Freel made another gem!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Ross is better against lefties, I think.Yes he is but I sure liked the idea of Ross against a tiring Weaver instead of Javy and whoever against Wainwright (who is the Birds best reliever).

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
When Wainright is on, he's very tough. At least he's out of the game now.

Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
He needs to be in center next year... (or sooner ;) )

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Austin who?

Powers?? :D

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Nice catch by Freel. It was about a 7 on the Ryan Freel scale.

A 9 on anyone else's.

oneupper
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Freel apparently made a phenomenal catch to end the inning!

Steve was excited; too bad the game isn't on TV cause I have no idea how great of a catch it was, but according to Steve, it was a great one.


A fine catch. Freel ran to his right (towards center) and laid out to catch the ball about a foot off the ground. Very nice diving catch.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.
Boy you really like jumping all over peoples opinons don't you?

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Let's get a few right here (just to be safe).

CTA513
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Yup, stupid Narron.


:thumbup:

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Isringhausen in.

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Yup, stupid Narron.

I would of used Merker there.

It worked so Narron is a genius.

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Izzy in

Kc61
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?


Timo pinch hit. Izzy now pitching for Cards.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Ross against a tired Weaver is a better matchup than Javy against Wainwright.

Didn't Tony change pitchers AFTER Javy was announced?

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

Timo Perez.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Gotta like our chances vs. Izzy

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Didn't Tony change pitchers AFTER Javy was announced?

He may have. I don't know.

NJReds
08-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Sorry, I'm gamecasting on sportsline and it says Wainwright hit in the 8th...is that wrong?

No, Timo Perez hit for him. Although I could see where they might be confused. ;)

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Let's get a few right here (just to be safe).will Narron plan two use two pitchers? (a LHP for Duncan and then a RHP for those following)

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:19 PM
I also guess LaRussa really doesn't trust his LH relievers in this spot

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:19 PM
will Narron plan two use two pitchers? (a LHP for Duncan and then a RHP for those following)

Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:19 PM
Hatte grounds out to 1st.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:19 PM
Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?
Shackel..........


oh wait

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
He may have. I don't know.

I can't remember either.

Oh well...it's the 9th inning now in a tie game.

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Duncan, Pujols, and Rolen to bat in the 9th, for the Cards.

Would it be imprudent for me to point out that this is not ideal for us?

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
I hate it when he does that.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Izzy's keeping the ball down. That's trouble for the Reds.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
jr. grounds to 2nd

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Edwin could be HUGE right here...

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Which lefty do you trust with Duncan?

Not Schoenweis

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
He may have. I don't know.the thing is that Larussa liked a Wainwright/Javy matchup better than a LHP/Reds bad RH pinch hitters matchup and without a doubt Javy is the best bat on the bench.

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
I hate first-pitch swings.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Would it be imprudent for me to point out that this is not ideal for us?

...not for those who don't follow baseball closely :D

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Not Schoenweis

I bet it's him.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:21 PM
I've got a bad feeling.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:21 PM
3 up, 3 down. Ouch.

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Inning was too easy.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:22 PM
Reds back to their warp speed ways, gotta catch that plane. I would say they are likely to get the opportunity shortly.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:22 PM
I don't ask for much.....but I'm asking/begging/pleading that the Cards don't win this thing now...

Fullboat
08-17-2006, 05:22 PM
I hate first-pitch swings.

I hate swinging at 3-1 Counts.:angry:

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:22 PM
Yeah...this game is HUGE for both teams.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:22 PM
Call it a reverse-jinx, but I don't see this one going extras. We had a great chance and totally blew it.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:23 PM
who is pitching?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
lead-off batter on...Uh-oh.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Duncan base hit.

Franklin still in.

Thanks Jerry.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
The odds aren't in our favor right now, do doubt.

You just just gotta believe. Cowboy up and all that good stuff.

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
He left Franklin in.

He's playing with fire.

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
not a good feeling here...

membengal
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Gonna have to rely on updates from you guys, I simply cannot listen to Mike Shannon this inning. Particularly if the Cards go ahead and score. Just too cruel and unusual.

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Franklin

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

Jerry only has 12 lefties at his disposal.

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Franklin's still in......

Not sure I get that one.

It will make more sense when you see Milton warming in the 15th.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Gee, Duncan gets his 3rd hit.

Who'd a thunk it?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Jerry has once again lost his marbles. The mistakes just never seem to end. Why acquire a LOOGY if you don't use them?

WK should acquire a few more

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Count's already 3-0 on Pujols.

And he walks him.

membengal
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Is he taking out Franklin against Pujols? Please tell me he is.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
Franklin behind in the count 3-0

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
People wonder why we despise Narron.

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
Lose - down 2.5
Win down .5

This inning is worth two games, right here.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
walk. Winning run in scoring position...no outs.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
Brilliant :rolleyes:


Jerry must not know what inning it is....

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:25 PM
I'm calling a triple play!

Who's with me?

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:26 PM
He just put the winning run at 2nd for Rolen with basically an intentional walk.

stupid.

BrooklynRedz
08-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Awesome! Winning run on 2nd. Suh-weet! :bash:

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Narrons problem is just because Franklin has a couple of decent outings he actually thinks he is a good reliever (he isn't)

OldXOhio
08-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Within 1/2 a game would have been nice...oh well

BuckeyeRedleg
08-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Why did they let Franklin pitch to Reds killer (Duncan)? Why not a lefty?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
Lose - down 2.5
Win down .5

This inning is worth two games, right here.

You had me scratching my head for a second, but yeah...it makes sense now.


This sucks :(

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
I really don't get this guy. I don't.

Falls City Beer
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
Narron's way worse than Miley or McKeon in his reluctance to make a pitching switch.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
People wonder why we despise Narron.he gets the no-brainer stuff wrong in just the biggest game of the year.

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
Narron has someone warming up. Why? He is an idiot

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
It'll be a miracle if we take this game to extras.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
Biggest game of the year and we're going down with a steroid cheat with no stuff on the hill.

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2006, 05:27 PM
I thought the standard move here was to walk the bases loaded if there are no outs - see: PHI game.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
We lose.

This sucks.


I'm pissed.

kyred14
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Knew that was coming...

oh well.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Narron's way worse than Miley or McKeon in his reluctance to make a pitching switch.he never plans to use multiple pitchers in an inning and only does so when it is way too late.

He should intentionally walk Rolen here

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
game over.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
How can anyone defend Jerry Narron today?

I don't even wanna hear it.

vaticanplum
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
What happened?

reds44
08-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Narron loses another one.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
we've just given the Cards a bunch of momentum and confidence thankyouverymuch

BRM
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
At least Jerry made the Cards beat his best reliever...oh wait. :help:

membengal
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
That was really, really, really puzzling.

I am sorry, I really try to like and accept Narron, I do. But stuff like this just leaves me short of any way to understand. I have nothing. Just nothing. Absolutely indefensible.

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
What happened?

Single to right scored the winning run.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
Knew that was coming...

oh well.Narron didn't.

Man is a complete joke as a manager. Larussa went with his two best releif pitchers. Narron lost with a guy who is likely his worst.

redsmetz
08-17-2006, 05:29 PM
Bummer! :cry:

TRF
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Kriv lost this one by trading for the dung pile that is Franklin.

Ugh.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Honestly, it never even crossed my mind that he would let Franklin pitch the 9th. I never even considered it as a possibility.

max venable
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
didn't even record a single out in the 9th. Ugly.

RedsFan75
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Narron!!!!
:bang: :angry: :angry: :yikes: :explode: :censored:

oneupper
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
What happened?
Rolen singles to right. Freel's throw is towards first. Duncan scores. Cards win. Reds lose.

Put this one on the offense. One run and three hits against Weaver et al is unacceptable.

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Narron should be fired. Say what you want about larussa but he made good moves. Narron is an idiot

flyer85
08-17-2006, 05:30 PM
Kriv lost this one by trading for the dung pile that is Franklin.

Ugh.no it is all on Narron, he should never have been out there in the 9th.