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Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 01:45 PM
Redlegs

Ryan Freel RF
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Ken Griffey Jr. CF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Adam Dunn LF
Rich Aurilia SS
Brandon Phillips 2B
David Ross C
Kyle Lohse P


Cardinals

David Eckstein SS
Chris Duncan LF
Albert Pujols 1B
Scott Rolen 3B
Juan Encarnacion RF
Ronnie Belliard 2B
So Taguchi CF
Yadier Molina C
Jeff Weaver P

I have to give Narron credit that he is once again playing our best eight bats today.

Now I have just one request this afternoon: Just freakin' win!

Wheelhouse
08-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Weeeee! Aurilia at SS again!

BRM
08-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Weaver needs to get shelled today. :)

captainmorgan07
08-17-2006, 01:49 PM
let's get loshe his first win and let's get this one for junior he really needs some good right now get a win for him. he's been here throught the tough times injuries aall get him and win and get him in the playoffs

Puffy
08-17-2006, 01:53 PM
Hopefully this lineup hits another 5 HR's today. That would be peachy and stuff.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 01:55 PM
I would have been ok with Hatte getting a day off...

However, using THIS exact same lineup 2 days in a row should be something that extends into many many many days in a row.

dabvu2498
08-17-2006, 01:57 PM
So Griff didn't take the day off to go to his mom's surgery.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 01:58 PM
Reyes had trouble the 2nd time around. Hopefully the Reds will make it true for Weaver as well.

BRM
08-17-2006, 01:58 PM
Hopefully this lineup hits another 5 HR's today. That would be peachy and stuff.

With two runners on for each of them. ;)

flyer85
08-17-2006, 02:03 PM
I would have been ok with Hatte getting a day off...
The Reds will see at least one LHP this weekend and possibly two, Hatty will get his days off then.

reds44
08-17-2006, 02:03 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:

RedFanAlways1966
08-17-2006, 02:03 PM
Lohse vs. Weaver.... the battle of reclamation-project-types.

Hopefully the REDS can manage more than 1-run off of Weaver this time. Make him look like Jeff Weaver and not Bob Gibson.

Johnny Footstool
08-17-2006, 02:08 PM
Weeeee! Aurilia at SS again!

Considering the other options, I'll take him.

redsfan30
08-17-2006, 02:09 PM
So Griff didn't take the day off to go to his mom's surgery.
Apparently not. I look for him to make an impact in today's game. Knowing him, his mom probably talked him into playing today instead of going to be with her and I'll bet ya he's going to want to do something special today for her.

Mitri
08-17-2006, 02:10 PM
Weaver's getting shelled today

Phil in BG
08-17-2006, 02:13 PM
Great line up. Jerry Narron is showing he really wants to win.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 02:16 PM
Apparently not. I look for him to make an impact in today's game. Knowing him, his mom probably talked him into playing today instead of going to be with her and I'll bet ya he's going to want to do something special today for her.

It wouldn't surprise me. Griffey has that special flair for the dramtic.
Here's praying for the best for Mrs. Griffey.

redsmetz
08-17-2006, 02:20 PM
Weaver needs to get shelled today. :)

Yeah, everyone else had their way with him. It's our turn!

Wheelhouse
08-17-2006, 02:29 PM
Considering the other options, I'll take him.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I think Rich plays decent SS in that he actually DOES always make the rountine play, has a very solid arm, and is superb at turning the DP. His range is not AS BAD as people say (can anyone point to any batted ball the last several games that Rich didn't get to that Clayton or Castro would?). He positions himself well and is quick with balls off the bat.

redsfan30
08-17-2006, 02:34 PM
I wasn't being sarcastic. I think Rich plays decent SS in that he actually DOES always make the rountine play, has a very solid arm, and is superb at turning the DP. His range is not AS BAD as people say (can anyone point to any batted ball the last several games that Rich didn't get to that Clayton or Castro would?). He positions himself well and is quick with balls off the bat.
I agree. While Rich isn't a world beater at short, he's not the statue that some make him out to be.

Of all the options, he's the best one.

BRM
08-17-2006, 02:37 PM
Of all the options, he's the best one.

If you consider the only options to be Aurilia, Clayton, or Castro then I agree.

membengal
08-17-2006, 02:38 PM
I really do think Narron has seen the light.

Go win, fellas.

oregonred
08-17-2006, 02:39 PM
FCB better get in here and predict a Cards thrashing of the Good Guys. I'm pretty worried about his post from last night where he thought we'd get killed last night yet scratch out a win on Thursday...

redsfan30
08-17-2006, 02:39 PM
If you consider the only options to be Aurilia, Clayton, or Castro then I agree.
I don't consider Phillips an option because this late in the season it'd be stupid for him to move positions.

BRM
08-17-2006, 02:42 PM
I don't consider Phillips an option because this late in the season it'd be stupid for him to move positions.

I disagree with you on moving Phillips but it doesn't matter anyway. I'm just glad Clayton isn't in the lineup today. :thumbup:

Reds1
08-17-2006, 02:44 PM
i could name a ball he would have got to that Castro boshed :) - I agree. I was fired up to see RA at SS. This is the best line up we have and then we have Clayton for speed off the bench. Let's go!

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 02:45 PM
I just hope we can improve on our 10-5 record on Thursdays. We were 7-0 at one point so here's to a win today:thumbup:

reds44
08-17-2006, 02:46 PM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9026/rallyfarneyws4.jpg

Rally Farney will lead us to victory!

max venable
08-17-2006, 02:52 PM
Weaver needs to get shelled today. :)
The battle of the ERA's...

Lohse's 6.39 vs. Weaver's 6.37.

If averages hold true, St. Louis will win this game by .02 runs. :D

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 02:54 PM
The battle of the ERA's...

Lohse's 6.39 vs. Weaver's 6.37.

If averages hold true, St. Louis will win this game by .02 runs. :D

That will mean this game will be 1-0 cliffhanger. ;)

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 02:58 PM
I hereby predict a 23-0 thrashing by St. Louis, with Jeff Weaver pitching a perfect game.

And if you have a problem with that and perhaps want to engage in fisticuffs, please don't hesitate to come to my residence, located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:02 PM
It's venting time...


It's stupid that you can't get road games on TV (when FSN Ohio doesn't have them) when you're in the Cincy market.....I mean come on!!


I can understand home games....!!!

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:05 PM
It's venting time...


It's stupid that you can't get road games on TV (when FSN Ohio doesn't have them) when you're in the Cincy market.....I mean come on!!


I can understand home games....!!!

Talk to Bud. He could change these stupid black out rules if he wanted to.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:08 PM
Talk to Bud. He could change these stupid black out rules if he wanted to.


That would mean he actually has to work...

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:13 PM
and we're off

Freel with Farney in tow fly out to left

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:15 PM
Hattaberg sees 3 pitches and on the 4th flys out to center 2 down

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:16 PM
Griffey hits a ball barely foul that would have been gone.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:18 PM
griffey gets to pitch 8 before he grounds into the shift and eckstein

Reds 0 Cards coming to bat

RedsMan3203
08-17-2006, 03:19 PM
WKKI is broadcasting the game if anyone is interested.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:20 PM
Eckstein pops to third. One out.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:20 PM
Chris Duncan can go away anytime...

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:21 PM
Killer Duncan singles.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:21 PM
Chris Duncan can go away anytime...

He will after today. Last game against the Cards.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Brandon Phillips has been very shaky lately in the field.

He has looked lethargic for about a week now in the field.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Should have been two...but, it's a bit of break considering it's Pujols...

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Pujols hit into FC 5-4. Phillips couldn't get ball out of his glove or may have been a dp.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:25 PM
He will after today. Last game against the Cards.

For now........


:D

guttle11
08-17-2006, 03:25 PM
Brandon Phillips has been very shaky lately in the field.

He has looked lethargic for about a week now in the field.

Him and Hatteberg could both use a day off.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:26 PM
Rolen walks. Two on two out.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:26 PM
I will give Lohse some credit thus far he seems to have a game plan for Pujols, almost all of his pitches were up and away

reds44
08-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Phillips has to turn that DP.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:27 PM
It's just frustrating what our defense does to the pitching staff. Extra pitches throughout games because they can't make the simple plays.

RollyInRaleigh
08-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Listening to the game on XM, and Mike Shannon just made the statement that Brandon Phillips is "the worst we have ever seen at turning the double play." For all the baseball that Shannon has seen, that is some statement. Shannon has to be one of the worst radio announcers in the game.

registerthis
08-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Walks will haunt.

37red
08-17-2006, 03:27 PM
Where is WKKI and why can't I get the Reds on TV? I pay for Dish and have a sports channel I pay extra for and I still get shorted for some games like this one. Life just isn't fair and I told my kids that, but that was supposed to be a parent thing, not for me!

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:28 PM
Jaun E. pops out to Junior in CF. No score after one.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:28 PM
Listening to the game on XM, and Mike Shannon just made the statement that Brandon Phillips is "the worst we have ever seen at turning the double play." For all the baseball that Shannon has seen, that is some statement. Shannon has to be one of the worst radio announcers in the game.

Quite honestly he has been the worst this week. He looks scared and lazy.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 03:28 PM
It's just frustrating what our defense does to the pitching staff. Extra pitches throughout games because they can't make the simple plays.

About 10 extra pitches for Lohse that inning.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:28 PM
Pitch count a bit up......but not a bad start for Loshe.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Where is WKKI and why can't I get the Reds on TV? I pay for Dish and have a sports channel I pay extra for and I still get shorted for some games like this one. Life just isn't fair and I told my kids that, but that was supposed to be a parent thing, not for me!

http://www.wkki.net/stream.htm

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Where is WKKI and why can't I get the Reds on TV? I pay for Dish and have a sports channel I pay extra for and I still get shorted for some games like this one. Life just isn't fair and I told my kids that, but that was supposed to be a parent thing, not for me!

Probably don't want to hear it...., but

The game over the internet is pretty nice...

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Where is WKKI and why can't I get the Reds on TV? I pay for Dish and have a sports channel I pay extra for and I still get shorted for some games like this one. Life just isn't fair and I told my kids that, but that was supposed to be a parent thing, not for me!

I am listening on ATHENSi.com. Click on the WATH link when you get there and you can hear the game.

RollyInRaleigh
08-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Quite honestly he has been the worst this week. He looks scared and lazy.

I've watched a lot of baseball and Phillips is no where near that bad.

TRF
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
The ball went a little high into BP's glove, up around the letters. It was a tough transfer. Not making excuses, but it wasn't a case of a completely routine play.

BTW, Al Hrabroski is the worst announcer not named Santo ever.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
EdE grounds out on a close play to 2nd. One out.

DJF33
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
WKKI is broadcasting the game if anyone is interested.

Thanks!

I wasn't even going to check.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
EdE hits the 1st pitch to Belliard 1 out

NJReds
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
Walks will haunt.

Rolen's not going to see many good pitches with Juan Encarnacion hitting behind him. Although Juan's a big step up from last night, when "Genious" LaRussa batted Timo Perez fifth.

RedsMan3203
08-17-2006, 03:30 PM
Where is WKKI and why can't I get the Reds on TV? I pay for Dish and have a sports channel I pay extra for and I still get shorted for some games like this one. Life just isn't fair and I told my kids that, but that was supposed to be a parent thing, not for me!


http://www.wkki.net/stream.htm

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 03:31 PM
Our inability to get any traction against this clown is just unbelievable. Everyone else in the league has been crushing him.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:31 PM
The ball went a little high into BP's glove, up around the letters. It was a tough transfer. Not making excuses, but it wasn't a case of a completely routine play.

BTW, Al Hrabroski is the worst announcer not named Santo ever.

I would much rather listen to Santo. Hrabosky is just awful.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:31 PM
I am listening on ATHENSi.com. Click on the WATH link when you get there and you can hear the game.

Well he's just using hyperbole.

But honestly it is surprising how shaky Phillips has been for awhile in the field. The flashy plays which are just athletic based he is fine with, the mental plays are what is killing him.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:32 PM
Dunn almost got that one.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:32 PM
Dunn flies to the wall in rf. Just missed. Two outs.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:34 PM
Aurilia pops out to the catcher. The mastery by Weaver continues.

RollyInRaleigh
08-17-2006, 03:34 PM
Well he's just using hyperbole.

But honestly it is surprising how shaky Phillips has been for awhile in the field. The flashy plays which are just athletic based he is fine with, the mental plays are what is killing him.

And as athletic as he is, I wouldn't call him "seasoned" at second. He is a shortstop. Making the turn at second base is one of the hardest things to do in all infield play. It takes skill, quickness, and a lot of guts. Phillips has the first two. I think he gets a little nervous when the big guys are bearing down on him at second. If he stays at second, he will get better, but to say he is the worst they have ever seen is just ridiculous.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 03:35 PM
The mastery by Weaver continues.

Getting handcuffed by a good pitcher like Carpenter is neither unexpected nor indicative of a problem with your offense. When you can't hit an absolute turd merchant like Weaver, who has a whip over 1.50, that is a serious issue.

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 03:35 PM
I'm at the game. It is hot and the Reds don't look real good right now against a very hittable pitcher.

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:35 PM
How does Weaver get away with those two totally different pitching motions? Should the Reds not be able to tell what's coming when he does that dropdown-sidearm thing?

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:37 PM
1st batter grounds to ss. Didn't catch who it was. One out.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:38 PM
Taguchi flies to cf. Two out.

RollyInRaleigh
08-17-2006, 03:38 PM
Getting handcuffed by a good pitcher like Carpenter is neither unexpected nor indicative of a problem with your offense. When you can't hit an absolute turd merchant like Weaver, who has a whip over 1.50, that is a serious issue.

Nothing new here. There are quite a few pitchers of Weavers ilk, who give this team trouble. These Reds are a good "power hitting" team. I wouldn't necessarily call them a "good hitting" team. Power hitting teams can get fooled by trash like Weaver throws a lot more than a good hitting team can.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:39 PM
Cards at the bottom of the order do like to hack.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:39 PM
Molina grounds out to second. Quick inning. On to the third. No score.

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 03:39 PM
Thats what I expect from their bottom of the order...

Lets hope they keep it up...

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 03:39 PM
There are quite a few pitchers of Weavers ilk, who give this team trouble.

I know absolutely nothing about pitching mechanics. What specific characteristics do these pitchers share?

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:40 PM
After 22 pitches in the first, Kyle gets through the second on eight.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:40 PM
Ross's average is getting back into the expected range rather than the holy crap look what we found from earlier this year

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:41 PM
George breaks out the hankies as Jim Edmonds gives a little interview to Fox Sports Midwest.

Joking aside, Edmonds' head slammed into the ground quite hard as he was leaping in the fence to make that catch almost two months ago.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:41 PM
Phillips flies out to CF on the first pitch. One out.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:41 PM
and the Reds are hacking right back.

RollyInRaleigh
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
I know absolutely nothing about pitching mechanics. What specific characteristics do these pitchers share?

Multiple arm angles. Offspead junk off an average fastball. Pitch backwards, with a lot of breaking balls that are out of the strike zone a lot. Changes the eye level of the hitters by moving the ball up and down and sometimes effectively wild. Doesn't let the Reds "big swingers" get into a good groove.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
Ross's average is getting back into the expected range rather than the holy crap look what we found from earlier this yearcheck out his splits. He has killed LHP and been very mediocre against RHP.

37red
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
Thanks Cumberland, just got back to the Zone and have it turned up

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
Ross gounds out to third. Two away.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:43 PM
It still amazes me how a turd like Weaver can make the Reds look clueless...

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:43 PM
Lohse ground to third. These guys are in a hurry to get away. Going to botom of the third. Scoreless.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Reds tried to set the record for fastest inning ever.

Gallen5862
08-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Thanks I have it now on Wkki.net.

registerthis
08-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Trying to lull them into a sense of complacency, apparently...

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:44 PM
a turd like Weaver ... must be a sweet smelling one.:help:

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Thanks Cumberland, just got back to the Zone and have it turned up
No problem but I'll have to go in few minutes so someone else will have to take over.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 03:45 PM
Lohse gets the Cardinals out on 7 pitches.
Weaver tops that by getting the Reds out on 6 pitches.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:47 PM
Weaver K's. 1st K for Lohse. One out in the third.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:47 PM
Lohse gets the Cardinals out on 7 pitches.
Weaver tops that by getting the Reds out on 6 pitches.playing a little "name that tune".

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 03:48 PM
Note to Reds...

You've now gone through the lineup once against Weaver....he's nothing special.

Remind him of that...

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Eckstein K's after a battle. Two out.

BRM
08-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Superman Duncan up.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Pujols is going to burn us one of these days.

And how lucky is Duncan hitting in front of Albert?

Big Klu
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
playing a little "name that tune".

I can name that tune in one note.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Duncan with another hit.

:runaway:

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Killer Duncan singles again.

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Damn that spawn of Duncan.

GoReds
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Who is Chris Duncan and what does he want?

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Pujols grounds out to 2nd on the 1st pitch. No score after three.

membengal
08-17-2006, 03:50 PM
I heart Kyle Lohse. Never thought I would develop these feelings...

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:51 PM
I thought Albert Pujols was above the concept of a "slump".

Mario-Rijo
08-17-2006, 03:51 PM
I heart Kyle Lohse. Never thought I would develop these feelings...

:laugh:

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:53 PM
Reds must have a plane to catch ... and are hacking like it.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:53 PM
Freel grounds out to third on two pitches. One away. It won't hurt to take a few pitches,fellows.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:54 PM
Hat works a walk. Finally a baserunner.

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:54 PM
While it is true that the way to beat Weaver is to swing the bat (given that he doesn't walk many), the Reds are going a little overboard.

Luckily Professor Hatteberg is in session.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:55 PM
a baserunner ... woohoo

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 03:55 PM
Surprised that the Hat played today saying he is struggling and was 3 for 22 vs. Weaver before today

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:56 PM
Base hit by Junior. Hat to 2nd. A rally in the making.

Cedric
08-17-2006, 03:56 PM
Griffey sounds like he has Weaver completely figured out.

1st and 2nd with one out for Edwin.

reds44
08-17-2006, 03:56 PM
A hit!

Come on EE!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:56 PM
we need a HR in this inning

BRM
08-17-2006, 03:57 PM
we need a HR in this inning

Those are rally killers. We need an opposite field bloop single.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 03:58 PM
Those are rally killers. I'll take 5

membengal
08-17-2006, 03:58 PM
Pop up to the IF was also a rally killer.

Come on Adam.

BRM
08-17-2006, 03:59 PM
I'll take 5

:thumbup:

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 03:59 PM
Veterans know not to swing so hard like EdE always does. Swinging hard keeps you from those seeing-eye singles.

cumberlandreds
08-17-2006, 03:59 PM
EdE pops to 1st. Two away and two on. Work has intervened and I have to go. Someone else will have to take over. Pull'em through today.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 04:00 PM
This would be a nice time for adam's first HR off of Weaver

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:00 PM
Losing to Jeff Weaver twice would really jerk my chain.

Just sayin'.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 04:01 PM
Nice photo red leader. Did you here there is a prequel for Ace ventura coming out? Sorry it's not a prequel but his son will take over for him

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Nice photo red leader. Did you here there is a prequel for Ace ventura coming out?

Did not hear that. Can't wait. My son and I love those movies.

I was going to hold out until football season to use it, but with the Reds possibly playing into October, I had to make the switch now.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:02 PM
That was pitiful.

IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Doc. Scott
08-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Striking out swinging after getting ahead 3-0... not so good.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Pathetic.

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Damn. Strikeout.

Hope Lohse continues to be nails. He may need to be.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 04:03 PM
Chris "Reds Killer" Duncan
Jeff "Cy Young against the Reds" Weaver

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:03 PM
Why can't we ever hit junk?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Tony must know something, they skipped the incredibly hot Suppan so Weaver could pitch against the Reds.

Chip R
08-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Dunn's just expanding the strike zone like he was told to.

BCubb2003
08-17-2006, 04:05 PM
Maybe the batters are tipping their swings.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:06 PM
who jokingly made a reference to a 1-0 game? It's all their fault.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 04:07 PM
At least Lohse hasn't yet turned into a pumpkin. It would be nice to get him a win though instead of wasting these starts.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:09 PM
Reds get a freebie!!

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:09 PM
Heckuva throw!

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 04:09 PM
Belliard isn't known as a base stealer is he?

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:10 PM
letsssss gooooooooooooooooo rich lol

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:11 PM
Time for Rally Farney.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9026/rallyfarneyws4.jpg

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:14 PM
This is terrible.

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:14 PM
Reds are indeed looking rather meek against Weaver, who is channeling his competent days of yore against them. Frustratingly.

Two down, Ross up.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:14 PM
Cy Weaver rolls on

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 04:14 PM
This is one of the absolute worst hitting performances I've ever seen or heard of. One hit. Off Jeff Weaver.

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:15 PM
Three down, Cards announcers on the radio have a hernia of excitment over a Pujols catch by the stands off of first.

Come on Lohse, keep being nails.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:15 PM
This is sad.

IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRM
08-17-2006, 04:15 PM
Weaver with a one-hitter through five innings. Pretty sad indeed.

CTA513
08-17-2006, 04:16 PM
If Weaver is with the Cardinals next year he should beg them to let him pitch against the Reds every time they play.

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:16 PM
They'll get to him eventually. Keep the faith. All good thoughts to Lohse now.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 04:16 PM
Why does this ballclub never show up in crucial games? Where is this surfeit of veteran leadership we're supposed to have?

RedsRock
08-17-2006, 04:17 PM
Even having to ask these questions nauseates me. How many pitches has Weaver thrown so far? In other words how many more innings do we have to see him?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:17 PM
They'll get to him eventually. Keep the faith. All good thoughts to Lohse now.

I have faith....but it's still sad.

IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:17 PM
molina will probably HR for a 1-0 victory

paulrichjr
08-17-2006, 04:18 PM
From my observation in the stands...jeff weaver has turned into Greg Maddux. They are really way out in front of everything

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:18 PM
molina will probably HR for a 1-0 victory

I would cry for hours.

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:18 PM
Even having to ask these questions nauseates me. How many pitches has Weaver thrown so far? In other words how many more innings do we have to see him?


Pitches-strikes - K Lohse 55-37; J Weaver 65-38.

We'll be seeing him another 2-3 innings unless Tony gets a stray hair somewhere and decides to pinch hit for him with a man on 2nd and 2 out.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:19 PM
From my observation in the stands...jeff weaver has turned into Greg Maddux. They are really way out in front of everything

When Maddux made the Reds looked lost, I could deal with it....that's what he does.


IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:19 PM
How many people are going to harp on Jeff Weaver without giving our own turn, Kyle Lohse some credit?

Post after post about how we can't hit the high ERA of Weaver.

Meanwhile, our guy with a higher ERA isn't allowing much either.

Sorry to break up the negativity session.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:20 PM
Loshe is doing VERY well so far, we need him to keep it up since the Reds are facing the greatest pitcher ever today...

RedsRock
08-17-2006, 04:20 PM
65 pitches from Weaver is more than I thought, take some pitches guys....

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:20 PM
This is starting to remind me of EZ earlier in the year. Pitches well but we never hit for him.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:21 PM
Dear Reds..

IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!

score runs.

Thanks.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
IF im Lohse i just stand there til the count is ?-2 then try foul some off

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
This is starting to remind me of EZ earlier in the year. Pitches well but we never hit for him.

And who does Redszone blame for this?

It won't be Jerry Narron. You all got your Murderers Row line-up. Glad to see it panning out.

NJReds
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
I have faith....but it's still sad.

IT'S JEFF WEAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the Cardinal's board, the posts are the same, except they say:

IT'S KYLE LOHSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
those sidearming slop throwing RHPs always give the Reds trouble, just like the incredible Byrd earlier in the season.

TeamBoone
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
Weaver with a one-hitter through five innings. Pretty sad indeed.

Lohse has only had three... and more strikeouts.

LincolnparkRed
08-17-2006, 04:22 PM
This is starting to remind me of EZ earlier in the year. Pitches well but we never hit for him.

The bats do seem to go to sleep for our "5th" starter

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:23 PM
On the Cardinal's board, the posts are the same, except they say:

IT'S KYLE LOHSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was exactly my point. We expect our turd to dominate while expecting our team to pound the crap out of theirs.

By the way, how do you pound the crap out of a turd?

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:23 PM
On the Cardinal's board, the posts are the same, except they say:

IT'S KYLE LOHSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loshe has actually strung together good starts....Weaver's seem to come against one team...

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:23 PM
By the way, how do you pound the crap out of a turd?

I don't want to know :lol:

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:24 PM
On gameday its showing weaver LIVING lowaway on our batters...

and i mean living.. since i got back from the store and turned it on all ive seen are balls in the low away corner.

Puffy
08-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Chris Duncan against the Reds - updated


ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi ave obp slg ops
29 8 16 1 0 5 8 .551 .594 1.172 1.766

BRM
08-17-2006, 04:25 PM
And who does Redszone blame for this?

It won't be Jerry Narron. You all got your Murderers Row line-up. Glad to see it panning out.

Are you trying to stir the pot here? You jumped on people for the negativity in the thread and then encourage more of it with this jab.

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Other teams doing their part.

Philly losing to the Mets. Colorado taking an early 2-0 lead on Arizona.

C'mon guys. We could pull to 1/2 game here and get some seperation in the WC.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:26 PM
On gameday its showing weaver LIVING lowaway on our batters...if it is true then its not hard to see why he is doing well. Low and away is a high rent district.

BRM
08-17-2006, 04:26 PM
Lohse has only had three... and more strikeouts.

Lohse has looked pretty good since coming over.

dsmith421
08-17-2006, 04:27 PM
Utter and complete garbage.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:27 PM
Man

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:28 PM
if it is true then its not hard to see why he is doing well. Low and away is a high rent district.

Just seems we are full of pull hitters on our team. I FEAR for MLB pitchers when the Reds learn to go the other way :)

Kc61
08-17-2006, 04:28 PM
Big half inning coming up with top of Cards order. Hope Lohse gets through it.

Hoosier Red
08-17-2006, 04:28 PM
Not to worry Jr, EE, or Dunn will put a charge into one next inning.

Chip R
08-17-2006, 04:28 PM
Are you trying to stir the pot here? You jumped on people for the negativity in the thread and then encourage more of it with this jab.

Take it private.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:28 PM
http://www.ncaabbs.com/funnies/general/deargod.jpg

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Not to worry Jr, EE, or Dunn will put a charge into one next inning.

Correct!!!

Jr's gonna see 6-8 pitches.. then Edwin's gonna go yard.. question is....will Jr be on base?

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Are you trying to stir the pot here? You jumped on people for the negativity in the thread and then encourage more of it with this jab.

How am I encouraging it?

BRM
08-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Take it private.

Sorry. My apologies to MaineRed as well.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Sometimes those games you expect to be slugfests, don't quite work that way....


And sometimes those games you expect to be pitching duals are just the opposite.

Funny game this baseball is...

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:30 PM
REally need to get threw this inning.. it could be won or lost here.

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:30 PM
73 pitches

guttle11
08-17-2006, 04:30 PM
Is anyone gonna tell the current score anytime?

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Let me guess??? Weaver is getting the calls and Lohse is throwing to the same spots for balls?

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Is anyone gonna tell the current score anytime?

0-0

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Pitiful.

Duncan is on fire and this turd Lohse strikes him out.

RedsRock
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Everyone talks about Spezio killing us (and with good reason), but Duncan, even with his last strikeout is 14-28, 5HR against us.

RBA
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
No score!

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Let me guess??? Weaver is getting the calls and Lohse is throwing to the same spots for balls?

Don't know...no TV :D

TeamBoone
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
there isn't any.... 0-0

BCubb2003
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Is anyone gonna tell the current score anytime?

No score.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Nice comeback by lohse there down 3-0 and gets the K

guttle11
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
0-0

Thank you.

membengal
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
For what it's worth, maine, I have not been negative in this thread, and others have not either. Your tone isn't helping, for what it's worth.

One observation courtesy of the Cards' radio team, they are marveling at how poorly the ball is carrying to RF today, saying they have not seen it carry that poorly all year. They said there is a slight wind in from that direction, but are rather puzzled by it.

Two outs. Pujols up.

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Is anyone gonna tell the current score anytime?

0-0. Pujols at bat in the 6th with 2 out.

Tommyjohn25
08-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Is anyone gonna tell the current score anytime?

0-0

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:32 PM
"Lohse is about to make a mistake to Albert"

Al Hrbrosky

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Pitiful.

Duncan is on fire and this turd Lohse strikes him out.

He's wheelin' and dealin'

So is Weaver.


Strange game :lol:

redsmetz
08-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Okay, time to put a hex on Weaver - everybody concentrate

http://snaggingbaseballs.mlblogs.com/the_baseball_collector/images/jinx.jpg

RedsRock
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
"Lohse is about to make a mistake to Albert"

Al Hrbrosky

Nice call, Al.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
As Marty would say..."this is a good ol' good one."

reds44
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
This is stupid.

Kyle Loshe and Jeff Weaver in a pitchers dule.


:lol:

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
three finger Lohse vs cy Weaver ... nice pitching matchup. :jump:

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
"Lohse is about to make a mistake to Albert"

Al Hrbrosky


"You're an idiotic homer."

Red Leader

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:33 PM
Anyone else think the scoring is going to explode when (and if I guess) they get to the bullpens...?

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
we need an appearance by Chief Nockahoma

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Play time's over...

Let's do this.

GridironGrace
08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Game Reset:

Top 7th No score

Reds have 1 Hit
Cards have 3 Hits


Lohse 6IP 3 Hits 1 BB 5 K's 80 Pitches 53 Strikes
7 Ground outs 5 Fly outs 21 Batters faced

Weaver 6 IP 1 Hit 1BB 1 K 7 Ground outs 10 Fly outs
20 Batters faced.

In the 7th.
Griffey
Edwin
Dunn

Bot
Rolen
Encarnacion
Belliard

MaineRed
08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
For what it's worth, maine, I have not been negative in this thread, and others have not either.

We must not be reading the same thread.

I consider one word post that read, "terrible", when talking about the Reds, to be negative.

But that is just me.

TRF
08-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.

NJReds
08-17-2006, 04:35 PM
http://sheridan.geog.kent.edu/nfc/jobu.jpg

IslandRed
08-17-2006, 04:35 PM
On gameday its showing weaver LIVING lowaway on our batters...

and i mean living.. since i got back from the store and turned it on all ive seen are balls in the low away corner.

However horrific Weaver has been this year, if he's pounding that knee-high outside-corner spot today, then today he's been a very good pitcher.

He'll make mistakes soon. We just have to make him pay.

TRF
08-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.

Maybe Krivsky struck again...

Oh, what a shame :D

guttle11
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.

Lohse is a career decent pitcher. He's facing new competition. He'll regress to his mean in a few more starts.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Red Leader
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.


you can say that again. ;)

Hoosier Red
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME! IT'S KYLE FREAKING LOHSE?!?!!??
SCORE SOME RUNS!!!!





Oh wait wrong board

Cyclone792
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Reds batters need to do a better job of working the count and laying off Weaver's junk out of the strike zone.

Get into hitter's counts, don't be afraid to take a walk and give Weaver every opportunity to make a mistake - which he'll do frequently - and then crush the mistake.

Lohse is pitching brilliantly. Hopefully the offense takes advantage of it today.

flyer85
08-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Webb getting smacked around by the Rocks

Cedric
08-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Lohse is a career decent pitcher. He's facing new competition. He'll regress to his mean in a few more starts.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Or possibly 15 starts like Bronson.

It's was well worth the risk either way.

GullyFoyle
08-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Having a nice at bat...

Matt700wlw
08-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Or possibly 15 starts like Bronson.

It's was well worth the risk either way.

Which would make him stellar through the rest of the season.


I'll worry about next year, next year.

guttle11
08-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Or possibly 15 starts like Bronson.

It's was well worth the risk either way.

Right. And Lohse's decency is better than Joe mays, and more consistant that EZ. I'll take him.

RedsRock
08-17-2006, 04:38 PM
10th pitch this AB to Jr

NJReds
08-17-2006, 04:38 PM
Webb getting smacked around by the Rocks

Perhaps that arm still isn't 100%.

dabvu2498
08-17-2006, 04:38 PM
Who the heck is pitching for the reds and when did he kidnap Lohse and take his place.

I don't know what Kriv saw in the guy, but I'm glad he saw it.
He saw this:
http://media.chelsey.bimedia.net/images/minnesota_twins_logo_ap.jpg

Chip R
08-17-2006, 04:38 PM
For what it's worth, maine, I have not been negative in this thread, and others have not either. Your tone isn't helping, for what it's worth.


And, again, if you have a beef with another poster, take it private. Next person who does this gets a vacation.

TheBurn
08-17-2006, 04:39 PM
Geez!