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penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:08 AM
bye

WebScorpion
08-30-2006, 12:08 AM
Nice 8 pitch battle for a leadoff single...Go Kenny!

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:08 AM
HR by Aurillia :)

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
Aurilia homers to center!! 4-3 Dodgers.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
nature boy strikes again

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
:aurilia:

sweet!

:jump:

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
Complain about him all you want, but Milton's not been that bad lately. At worst, he's been our second best pitcher (not counting Lohse) since the ASB.

SteelSD
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
Aurilia with a bomb to get the Reds back into it. Padres winning. Need to keep up.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
It's time to pull Milton...we are only down 1 run!

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:09 AM
how about rich

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Ra Hr!!!

VR
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Reds rippin 2nd time through...it will get worse for Hendrickson.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Ross to HR

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Ross bunts and fouls out to the catcher. 1 out.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
pitcher struggling so ... a bunt

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Maybe not

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
good thought...alright better boys better

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
With Phillips hitting good Ross has a brain cramp. If you are going to bunt...get it down.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
I have a confidence increase!

VR
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
Vin harsh on Ross....rightfully so. Narron scolded him in SF, told to never bunt against lefties.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
What a dumb idea by Ross.

SirFelixCat
08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
C'mon fellas. Gotta believe!

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:12 AM
Ross to HR

You'll break out of it as well Big L:D

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:12 AM
Now Steve is happy about Florida beating STL :lol:

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:12 AM
Phillips singles to left.

VR
08-30-2006, 12:12 AM
crack goes Phillips

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:12 AM
i enjoy the thought....get on for a hot hitter when the 3rd basemen is playing real deep

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
Keep it up, BPhil!!

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
I predict a ground ball

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
dont swing dont swing dont swing

Aronchis
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
Phillips has been a little warm lately.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
Royce will not make an out...

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
you almost have to run in this situation because clayton will 70% of the time ground into the dp ball

PuffyPig
08-30-2006, 12:14 AM
Coming into tonight:

vs the leadoff hitter he had a 1.67 ERA
with 1 out a 5.94 ERA
with 2 outs a 5.36 ERA

Even more stats
with RISP and 2 outs a 12.79 ERA
with RISP an amazing 17.57 ERA. Ouch.

Imagine, a pitcher who gives up more runs with RISP than with the bases empty. Who'd have thunk it?

Kc61
08-30-2006, 12:14 AM
Complain about him all you want, but Milton's not been that bad lately. At worst, he's been our second best pitcher (not counting Lohse) since the ASB.

I don't agree with second best pitcher. He has improved. 5.46 in June, 5.77 in July, 4.66 in August. Overall, over 5 ERA this year, over 6 last year.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:14 AM
You'll break out of it as well Big L:D

Sure as hell hope so. I was really dialed in for a while.

Reds Nd2
08-30-2006, 12:14 AM
The Reds need to eat most of his contract. Pay Milton six million and give him his freedom. Or trade him to someone and pay most of his contract. Any contract can be bought out if you pay the player enough money.

The Reds have Milton signed to a contract, with no provision for a buyout, that will pay him $9M next season. There is no way the Reds pay Milton less than that and give him his freedom. Milton wouldn't accept it and the Union wouldn't allow it. Teams can only buy out a players contract if that provision is included in the contract.

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:15 AM
Complain about him all you want, but Milton's not been that bad lately. At worst, he's been our second best pitcher (not counting Lohse) since the ASB.

That's why I think he's not totally immovable. He's wildly inconsistent, but can crank out quality starts sometimes. He does it often enough to beat most teams #5 starter, and some team's #4.

Would anyone rather have Michalek or Franklin starting? With Claussen's health a question mark, I'm not in a hurry to get rid of Milton until we acquire an upgrade. We simply don't have a body to replace Milton right now.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:15 AM
I don't agree with second best pitcher. He has improved. 5.46 in June, 5.77 in July, 4.66 in August. Overall, over 5 ERA this year, over 6 last year.he's had marginally better outcomes but he has not improved

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:15 AM
I don't agree with second best pitcher. He has improved. 5.46 in June, 5.77 in July, 4.66 in August. Overall, over 5 ERA this year, over 6 last year.


Since the ASB, he has been our second best starter.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:15 AM
Imagine, a pitcher who gives up more runs with RISP than with the bases empty. Who'd have thunk it?

Thank you Puff...I knew it it was horrible. We got to pay this clown 9 million next year..

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:15 AM
what on earth

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
I have a confidence increase!

No kidding. It's nice to see some offense after being starved.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
Phillips thought it was 2 outs. He is not very game savy is he...

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
This teams baserunning night in and night one borders on the absurd.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
Clayton flies out to center as Repko makes a diving catch. It is easily turned into a DP as Phillips was running on the play. 4-3 Dodgers mid 4th.

PuffyPig
08-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Phillips thought it was 2 outs. He is not very game savy is he...

I don't think he thought there was 2 outs. I think he thought the ball would drop and he wanted to take the extra base.

But only Phillips knows for sure.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Hall leads off with a ground rule double.

Kc61
08-30-2006, 12:18 AM
The Reds have Milton signed to a contract, with no provision for a buyout, that will pay him $9M next season. There is no way the Reds pay Milton less than that and give him his freedom. Milton wouldn't accept it and the Union wouldn't allow it. Teams can only buy out a players contract if that provision is included in the contract.


The Reds certainly can trade Milton and pay the acquiring team less than nine million in cash.

As for the buyout scenario, I know they do it all the time in the NBA. Milton could actually benefit from it -- take six mill from the Reds, maybe get four from some team with a big park. Don't know if it is done in MLB, but a creative deal needs to be put together.

Another ground rule double against Milton. Man.

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
Way to go Milton, let LA get right back into it :rolleyes:

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
This teams baserunning night in and night one borders on the absurd.

What compounds that blunder even further is it forces Milton to leadoff next inning, unless he's knocked out of the box while on the mound. Baserunning blunders to end innings are one thing, but when they also handicap you the following inning, it's beyond a disaster.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
These pants cought a lot of grief at work today...really don't want to wear them tomorrow. GET Milton out...

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
Milton has even less tonight than usual. It really amazes

WebScorpion
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
Milton would be one of the top 10 pitchers in the NL if you could just get someone else to pitch the first innning for him. :ughmamoru

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:20 AM
Jerry, get him out.

Whenever he struggles at all with command, he's toast

Reds Nd2
08-30-2006, 12:20 AM
Sad as it is, Milton is an upgrade at the #5 slot to several teams that want to contend.

Milton is an upgrade to the Reds #5 spot in the rotation. :laugh:

Yea' the Reds might be able to move him, but I think they would have to eat a pretty significant amount of salary. I just don't think many teams are clamoring for a pitcher with degenerative knee problems and HRitis, even if they are of the left handed persuasion.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:20 AM
Milton would be one of the top 10 pitchers in the NL if you could just get someone else to pitch the first innning for him. :ughmamoru

and the 3rd, 4th, 7th.....etc:cry:

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:21 AM
Repko hits a soft line out to Phillips. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Hendrickson strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:22 AM
I'll be shocked if he retires Furcal

CTA513
08-30-2006, 12:23 AM
Complain about him all you want, but Milton's not been that bad lately. At worst, he's been our second best pitcher (not counting Lohse) since the ASB.

Since the all-star break:
Lohse (with the Reds): 1-1 with a 2.78 ERA
Harang: 4-3 with a 3.60 ERA
Arroyo: 1-3 with a 4.40 ERA
Milton: 3-3 with a 5.17 ERA (not including tonight)

VR
08-30-2006, 12:23 AM
Vin shares that Milton lost a very close friend on 9/11. Navy Lt. in Pentagon. Who knew

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:23 AM
you could hang clothes on that breaking ball...it's horrible

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
Vin shares that Milton lost a very close friend on 9/11. Navy Lt. in Pentagon. Who knew

Wow....sorry to hear that. :(

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
This is the danger zone for Milton. The 3rd time through the lineup on this year his ERA is 8.69.

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
I'll be shocked if he retires Furcal

I'd be shocked if he retired as well. At his age he probably has a few good years left.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
Vin shares that Milton lost a very close friend on 9/11. Navy Lt. in Pentagon. Who knew
Vin knew...that's why he's the best...

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:25 AM
Vin shares that Milton lost a very close friend on 9/11. Navy Lt. in Pentagon. Who knew

Vin does his homework.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:25 AM
we have to hope Narron will PH for Milton to start the 5th

Kc61
08-30-2006, 12:25 AM
Furcal should be Milton's last batter of the night. No matter what.

Narron?

penantboundreds
08-30-2006, 12:25 AM
vin knows more ab our players than our own announcers

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:26 AM
Hall goes to 3rd on a wild pitch.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:26 AM
Nice

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:27 AM
Furcal grounds out to 2nd. 4-3 Dodgers after 4. Milton due up to lead off.

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:27 AM
I remember a game last year where Harang pitched against the Dodgers. Vin mentioned how tall Harang and Dunn are and then said "They should be called the Cincinnati Redwoods."

WebScorpion
08-30-2006, 12:27 AM
I'll be shocked if he retires Furcal
:yikes: There ya go!

After 4 complete, Milton has thrown fewer pitches, given up fewer hits and fewer earned runs than Hendrickson.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:28 AM
The Girl just wont shut up... but go reds!

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:29 AM
I remember a game last year where Harang pitched against the Dodgers. Vin mentioned how tall Harang and Dunn are and then said "They should be called the Cincinnati Redwoods."

:laugh: ....:bang:

VR
08-30-2006, 12:29 AM
It's gonna get really ugly for Hendrickson this inning.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:29 AM
Wow nice...what's Milton's average now?

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:29 AM
Milton singles to center.

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
It's gonna get really ugly for Hendrickson this inning.

Hopefully this one. I'd like about an eight run lead so I could go to bed.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Freel lines a single to left. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Milton in @ .229! Snap! Beats LaRue

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Dunn going deep would be kinda cool right now...


Marty says bunt :lol:

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:31 AM
Freel took two good pitches to hit and then singles on a ball ...

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:31 AM
Dodgers warming up in BP :(

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:31 AM
Two singles to start the inning, and it's now first and second with nobody out.

It's time to make the Dodgers pay. Score some runs, take the lead and help put ourselves in great position to win a ballgame tonight.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:31 AM
Here we go...

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:31 AM
bunting might not be bad ... better than a DP

VR
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
Wow nice...what's Milton's average now?

50 points higher than LaRue :help:

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
Lotta talk that David Wells is set to be traded. Would love to see him stretching out a Reds Uniform.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
Dunn singles to right. Bases loaded for EE.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
Bases Juiced And Nobody Out.

We Must Score

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
That works too...

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
man is Milton really that slow ... I hope that doesn't hurt

WebScorpion
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Time for Eddie E to break out! Go EE!

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
I just took my pants off the iron them for tomorrow...make me throw them in the hamper EE....

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Dunn singles to right. Bases loaded for Junior.

EE??

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Little removes his pitcher in the 5th with a lead ... Jerry please take note

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Pitching change.

VR
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Lotta talk that David Wells is set to be traded. Would love to see him stretching out a Reds Uniform.

I would too......but I would be very very cautious about overpaying.

My bet would be the Cards.

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
EE, you used to be dynamite with RISP. Time to re-light the fuse.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Bullpen time.

Darn, that was getting fun. :D

TeamBoone
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Jerry really must solidify Adam in that number two slot.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:33 AM
EE??
I am so used to Junior batting 3rd I forgot for a second.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:34 AM
Bases Juiced And Nobody Out.

We Must Scorea guy in a wheelchair would have scored from 2nd. They way this team has gone of late they won't score this inning

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:34 AM
Bases Juiced And Nobody Out.

We Must Score

You can't say juiced on a baseball board.

TeamBoone
08-30-2006, 12:34 AM
man is Milton really that slow ... I hope that doesn't hurt


I would have sent him... couldn't hurt with no outs.

VR
08-30-2006, 12:35 AM
Junior absolutely owns Sele. Please no triple play EE. :thumbup:

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:35 AM
that was the pitch...

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:35 AM
Sele in to pitch.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:36 AM
I would have sent him... couldn't hurt with no outs.Welsh noted he was jogging to 3rd ... couldn't afford to get him thrown out

WebScorpion
08-30-2006, 12:36 AM
Sele hasn't pitched very well out of the pen for them....5 ER in 8 IP?

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
Bummer....

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
Wow just freaking wow.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
2nd worst outcome...

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
EE breaks his bat and grounds into a 6-2 fielder's choice. Bases still loaded for Junior.

Reds Nd2
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
The Reds certainly can trade Milton and pay the acquiring team less than nine million in cash.

As for the buyout scenario, I know they do it all the time in the NBA. Milton could actually benefit from it -- take six mill from the Reds, maybe get four from some team with a big park. Don't know if it is done in MLB, but a creative deal needs to be put together.

Yes, the Reds could possibly trade Milton, but that is not the same as a buyout. That was what we were discussing. I appologize if that sounds snarky. It isn't meant to be and I'm exhausted tonight.

I really have no clue how contracts work in the NBA, but I can't recall ever hearing about anything like that happening in MLB.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:37 AM
That was a DP ball

VR
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Vin very blunt about EE

"everytime he comes up with guys on base, and every time he fails to deliver"

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Time to remove EE from the cleanup spot. He is KILLING us.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Woah....


Did anyone else hear that word come out of JR's mouth?

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
we scored but Jr shows no patience....

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Junior grounds out to 1st. Tie game 4-4. 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
ugh

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
shakes head ... shuffles off

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
What did Junior say?

harangatang
08-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Did Griffey just drop the f bomb?

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Hell...at least we scored...

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Time to remove EE from the cleanup spot. He is KILLING us.he isn't hitting cleanup

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
JR drops the F bomb big time....

VR
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Time to remove EE from the cleanup spot. He is KILLING us.

He's batting third, but yeah, he's pressing a bit.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Aurrila's numbers were not the bad at clean-up were they? Better than EE

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:39 AM
I'll take the run, but this inning could have been so much more.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
That's just plain disgusting.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
so the Reds tie it up ... the odds of Milton surviving the 5th unscathed are not good.

WMR
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
JR drops the F bomb big time....

George Grande tells HIMSELF "earmuffs."

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
Aurilia grounds out to 3rd. You have to get more than 1 run there. 4-4 mid 5th.

harangatang
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
JR drops the F bomb big time....That's what I thought I heard, audibly.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
bases loaded..no out, 4,5,6 hitters up...only one run...priceless...

TheBigLebowski
08-30-2006, 12:40 AM
he isn't hitting cleanup


He is most nights...and I really did think he was tonight, but we oughta move him to where Ross hits and bat Ross cleanup.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:41 AM
Sele cam in and threw maybe 2 fastballs

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 12:41 AM
I just went back to watch the recorded junior ....

He definetly said the F-BOMB and it was actually audible on the TV...

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:41 AM
That's really kind of sad considering it was bases loaded and 0 outs...

VR
08-30-2006, 12:42 AM
He is most nights...and I really did think he was tonight, but we oughta move him to where Ross hits and bat Ross cleanup.

hey, there's a thought ;)

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:42 AM
Jr. gets an rbi with a productive out. Somewhere Badfundamentals is smiling.

SteelSD
08-30-2006, 12:42 AM
George Grande tells HIMSELF "earmuffs."

:laugh:

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:42 AM
That's really kind of sad considering it was bases loaded and 0 outs...

First real emotion I've seen of Griffey since he has been a Red.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
Lugo flies out to center. 1 out.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
First real emotion I've seen of Griffey since he has been a Red.

Baby steps. :D

Puffy
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
Wow, that was some good managing by Little and some good pitching by Sele.

No way Narron has that quick a hook with Milton in the 5th inning of a game like that. Not that Narron wouldn't take Milton out in the 5th, just that more damage would have been done first.

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
Milton is an upgrade to the Reds #5 spot in the rotation. :laugh:

Yea' the Reds might be able to move him, but I think they would have to eat a pretty significant amount of salary. I just don't think many teams are clamoring for a pitcher with degenerative knee problems and HRitis, even if they are of the left handed persuasion.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with you that there's not going to be a bidding war for Milton :laugh:

CTA513
08-30-2006, 12:43 AM
bases loaded..no out, 4,5,6 hitters up...only one run...priceless...

Milton had a chance to score on Dunns single but wasnt running at full speed.

Kc61
08-30-2006, 12:44 AM
EE really seems messed up at the plate. First time all year he looks like he's pressing. Probably a little too much to hit him third or fourth in the stretch drive. I have no doubt he'll come back and contribute, but time to change something with him.

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:44 AM
In the month of August, Edwin Encarnaion has a 1.056 OPS.

This is only Edwin's third game in the three-hole, but he's been in the cleanup spot for 31 games. While batting cleanup, Edwin has a 1.030 OPS.

Edwin Encarnacion really is the last guy people should be complaining about offensively.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:44 AM
Garciaparra lines out to right. 2 outs.

OldRightHander
08-30-2006, 12:45 AM
Eyes are failing. Good night.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:45 AM
Don't get me wrong. I agree with you that there's not going to be a bidding war for Milton :laugh:

Not sure if there was really one when he signed here. The Yankees offered him a contract, and DanO couldn't let that piece of gold get away so he upped it.

Steinbrenner probably said "he's all yours," laughed hysterically, and had another playoff run.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:46 AM
Kent's up. Yay.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:46 AM
Drew walks.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:46 AM
that entire inning was messed up by Milton ... by not running hard and scoring he kept Freel from going to 3rd and cost the Reds at least one run

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:46 AM
Baby steps. :D

That really was not a fair quote by me. He's shown emotion when things are going good. Walk-off HR, etc. That is the first time I've seen him be upset.

F-bombs don't bother be...at least he cares....It's your turn Dunn.

Puffy
08-30-2006, 12:47 AM
In the month of August, Edwin Encarnaion has a 1.056 OPS.

This is only Edwin's third game in the three-hole, but he's been in the cleanup spot for 31 games. While batting cleanup, Edwin has a 1.030 OPS.

Edwin Encarnacion really is the last guy people should be complaining about offensively.

Come on Cyclone - - if any Red goes two consectutive days without a hit then its either "he needs to be moved down in the order" or "he really sucks lately" or "he needs a rest"

Thats the M.O. for the game thread this year, moreso than any year I can ever remember

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:47 AM
EE really seems messed up at the plate. First time all year he looks like he's pressing. Probably a little too much to hit him third or fourth in the stretch drive. I have no doubt he'll come back and contribute, but time to change something with him.trying to pull everything

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:48 AM
why don't I like this Kent/Milty matchup

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:48 AM
Get this clown out...Jerry

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:48 AM
Kent singles to center. His 3rd hit tonight.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:48 AM
please take him out

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:49 AM
Ethier grounds out to 1st. 4-4 after 5.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:49 AM
Inning over...

Good Job Milton....

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:49 AM
He's settled down nicely.

What's his pitch count?

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:50 AM
Well, I'm extremely pleased that the game is tied at this point. Milton didn't pitch a good game by any means, but at least the offense showed up and we've still have a chance to win.

Kc61
08-30-2006, 12:50 AM
In the month of August, Edwin Encarnaion has a 1.056 OPS.

This is only Edwin's third game in the three-hole, but he's been in the cleanup spot for 31 games. While batting cleanup, Edwin has a 1.030 OPS.

Edwin Encarnacion really is the last guy people should be complaining about offensively.

Not complaining, just noting that he's had a few tough games and seems off. Sometimes, perhaps for no good reason, a guy has a comfort zone in a particular spot. Dunn seems to do well hitting second, maybe EE needs to be put back at fourth. May not be ideal in terms of lefty/righty, but Freel, Dunn, Griff, EE, Hatt, Aurilia, Ross, Phillips, works for me.

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:51 AM
He's settled down nicely.

What's his pitch count?

Milton's thrown 85 pitches, and he's due up 4th this inning.

I would strongly advise getting him out of this game now, especially if we get a baserunner on and his slot comes up to the plate.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:51 AM
He's settled down nicely.

What's his pitch count?


Right around 90....


He'll be out there for the 7th I do believe.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:52 AM
Ross doubles down the left field line.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:52 AM
curveballing Sele is a not a bad matchup for the Dodgers against the lower part of the Reds order.

Will Jerry PH for Milty?

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:52 AM
Right around 90....


He'll be out there for the 7th I do believe.

He has to get through the 6th first :D

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:53 AM
He has to get through the 6th first :D

:bang: :bang:

See what happens when you mix beer and talking on the phone? You get innings mixed up....

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Not complaining, just noting that he's had a few tough games and seems off. Sometimes, perhaps for no good reason, a guy has a comfort zone in a particular spot. Dunn seems to do well hitting second, maybe EE needs to be put back at fourth. May not be ideal in terms of lefty/righty, but Freel, Dunn, Griff, EE, Hatt, Aurilia, Ross, Phillips, works for me.

He's hit .350 with three doubles on this roadtrip alone coming into tonight.

If those are tough games, I'd like to know what 1) the norm is, and 2) the good is.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Phillips singles to center. 5-4 Reds!! 3 hits for BP.

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Alright.. We got the lead .. I forgot what that felt like :lol:

WVRedsFan
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Ross doubles and the single brings him home. 5-4 Reds.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
I would mind seeing Phillips into the two spot, Dunn three and Jr four

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Very nice.

First lead of the series

VR
08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Milton's thrown 85 pitches, and he's due up 4th this inning.

I would strongly advise getting him out of this game now, especially if we get a baserunner on and his slot comes up to the plate.

Completely depends on the situation with the first 3 hitters.

Phillips hits....unless Clayton doubles to put guys at 2nd/3rd....we'll see him in the 6th.

WVRedsFan
08-30-2006, 12:55 AM
SB - Phillips.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:55 AM
Phillips steals 2nd on a pitch out as no one covers 2nd in time.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:55 AM
Reds need 2-3 more runs here, PH for Milty

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:55 AM
the Ross, Phillips dueo does it again...:beerme:

VR
08-30-2006, 12:56 AM
He's hit .350 with three doubles on this roadtrip alone coming into tonight.

If those are tough games, I'd like to know what 1) the norm is, and 2) the good is.


You're right of course....just has looked rough with ducks on the pond lately.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:56 AM
why have Clayton bunt when he really excels hitting GBs to the 2b

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
Hatteberg to PH for Milton.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
The stupidity of all that amazes me

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
Pitiful bunt attempt by Clayton as he fouls it off for a strikeout. 1 out.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
Clayton is a joke..... Holy Cow.

VR
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
why have Clayton bunt when he really excels hitting GBs to the 2b

Looks like he missed a sign

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
Great at bat Clayton...we are in a race man...get in the game...:thumbdown

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:57 AM
Hatteberg pinch hits for Milton.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:58 AM
Ending Milton's night early could have something to do with using him Sunday...it would Michalek's next start, but with the off day Thurs., there is no reason to use him

Cyclone792
08-30-2006, 12:58 AM
Completely depends on the situation with the first 3 hitters.

Phillips hits....unless Clayton doubles to put guys at 2nd/3rd....we'll see him in the 6th.

So far this season, Milton with a pitch count of 91+ allows opposing hitters to hit .356/.431/.733, and that's good for a 1.164 OPS.

Great move by Jerry to get him out of the game right now just for the sole reason that I don't want him on the mound any longer in tonight's game.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 12:58 AM
having Clayton bunt there is dumb, let him hit a GB to the right side

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 12:58 AM
Hatteberg flies out to left. 2 outs.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 12:58 AM
that non-run is on you Clayton....great job...

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 12:59 AM
Belisle will pitch the 6th.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Reds got as little as possible out of the last 2 innings

Reds Nd2
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Don't get me wrong. I agree with you that there's not going to be a bidding war for Milton :laugh:

Oh, I agree with you that he could be moved. I just don't think it will happen untill late next season. Even if he could help a team in contention this season, that team wouldn't want him on their roster for all of '07 unless the Reds ate a bunch of salary. It's not worth it to the Reds, IMO. Polish him up, keep him as healthy as possible, then flip him to a contender next season for prospects. This was a bad contract for the Reds when it was signed and I'm afraid they are stuck with it.

RedsMan3203
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Im guessing a double switch just happpend for the Reds.

Aurillia moves to SS and Hatteberg comes into play 1st...

Who is coming into pitch?

VR
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Hatte 1-18 w/ only 1 walk. :eek:

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Freel grounds out to short. 5-4 Reds mid 6th.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Im guessing a double switch just happpend for the Reds.

Aurillia moves to SS and Hatteberg comes into play 1st...

Who is coming into pitch?
Belisle

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:01 AM
We have to lead the world in the staticial category of having a runner on 2nd with no outs and not scoring them. Twice tonight alone.

Kc61
08-30-2006, 01:01 AM
Clayton is annoyed and I don't blame him. Shouldn't ask a position player to bunt with two strikes. Gave up an out there for no reason.

CTA513
08-30-2006, 01:02 AM
having Clayton bunt there is dumb, let him hit a GB to the right side

No reason to keep on bunting with 2 strikes.
Let him try and hit it to the right side and if he fouls the pitch off atleast its not a strikeout.

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:03 AM
I really like Belisle ... 2 good innings would be huge

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:03 AM
let's see.....

Phillips error cost us 2 runs in the first

Milton not hustling cost us a run

Clayton not moving the runner over cost us another run.

Let's go bullpen.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:03 AM
Hall singles to right. Freel tries to throw him out at first but Hall beats the throw.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Im guessing a double switch just happpend for the Reds.

Aurillia moves to SS and Hatteberg comes into play 1st...

Who is coming into pitch?


Richie still at 1st I believe

Reds Nd2
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Scully has man love for Freel tonight.

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Looking like Belisle is going to screw this up.

:bang:

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Repko singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
why was EE playing so shallow?

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
a duck snort and a seeing eye grounder to start the inning

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
I agree with Marty.. he just said the bullpen is not better than it was before all the moves made.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Betemit pinch hitting.

remdog
08-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Scully is going off with praise and adulation for the way Freel plays the game. :)

Rem

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Looking like Belisle is going to screw this up.

:bang:a bloop and a dribbler

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Belisle throws one down the middle called a ball?

WMR
08-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Ooh I think I might have tested Dunn's arm there if I was the Dodgers 3b coach

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
this is amazing. If EE was back its an easy DP

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
Betemit chops a single over EE. Bases loaded.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
"SNAKES ON A FIELD"

Wow did he just say that?

Matt700wlw
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
a bloop and a dribbler

Bad luck maybe...but he isn't exactly fooling anybody

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
the more the bullpen changes the more they stay the same...

Kc61
08-30-2006, 01:06 AM
People on Redszone like Belisle. I can't figure it out. He was a bad AAA starter. His numbers last year weren't very good and this year is worse. He has a bad back. I just don't get the fascination with this guy.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
this is amazing. If EE was back its an easy DP

twice..two batters in a row

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Bad luck maybe...but he isn't exactly fooling anybodywhat, they haven't put good wood on any of them

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
People on Redszone like Belisle. I can't figure it out. He was a bad AAA starter. His numbers last year weren't very good and this year is worse. He has a bad back. I just don't get the fascination with this guy.

He's young. If he was 35, he wouldn't be nearly as popular on the Zone.
Young guys get a lot of extra slack here.

CTA513
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
I wonder if the Dodgers can do what the Reds couldnt do when they had bases loaded and 0 outs.

A triple play would be nice.

redsrule2500
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Ballgame.

SteelSD
08-30-2006, 01:07 AM
The stupidity of all that amazes me

I'm just trying to figure out why playing for one run in the sixth is a good idea. Team just took the lead and should be looking to pile on after a double with none out. Giving away an out at that point just didn't make any sense.

Reds Fanatic
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
Furcal singles to left. Throw home not in time. Tie game 5-5. Bases still loaded with no outs.

George Foster
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
that was a good play by Dunn. If he misses that it scores 3

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
Looks like Frenchie, the double agent is coming in. Not confirmed though.

WMR
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrgggh

flyer85
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
one of the big differences is the dodgers have been slapping the other way

WVRedsFan
08-30-2006, 01:08 AM
People on Redszone like Belisle. I can't figure it out. He was a bad AAA starter. His numbers last year weren't very good and this year is worse. He has a bad back. I just don't get the fascination with this guy.

Well, like Marty said, he just throws gasoline on the fire. We get the lead and Matt pitches batting practice. 4 straight hits! And Jerry fiddles while our chances burn.

Hume goes to the mound a batter too late. Is there something wrong with pulling a pitcher when it's obvious he has nothing no matter how long he's been in.

He leave Belisle in. Wow!

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 01:09 AM
No he's leaving Belisile in there.. WHY?

REDREAD
08-30-2006, 01:09 AM
No he's leaving Belisile in there.. WHY?

Double play, that's why :laugh: