9/2/06 Game Thread Reds vs. Padres

[George Foster]

Reds going for 3rd win on this Left Coast swing. We need this one.

Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Freel rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .279
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
K. Griffey Jr. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255
E. Encarnacion 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
S. Hatteberg 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
R. Aurilia ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .296
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
D. Ross c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .278
K. Lohse p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

San Diego
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
D. Roberts lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .312
B. Giles rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
T. Walker 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283
M. Piazza c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
A. Gonzalez 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
M. Cameron cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
G. Blum ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257
J. Barfield 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
J. Peavy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .196
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[George Foster]

I dig this starting 8. I would move Aurilia to 3rd hole...but not bad.

[Spitball]

Whoa! :eek: Has anyone seen Bailey's line for tonight. It's not pretty. I believe he walked four and gave up a few hits before being relieved without getting an out in the game. Time to shut that boy down.

[Matt700wlw]

Whoa! :eek: Has anyone seen Bailey's line for tonight. It's not pretty. I believe he walked four and gave up a few hits before being relieved without getting an out in the game. Time to shut that boy down.

Wow...he is human!


Maybe they should shut him down.

[RedFanAlways1966]

REDS lineup tonight... career vs. Jake Peavy:

* 6-for-42 (.143 BA), 0 HR, 1 double, 1 RBI. :eek:

BTW... Peavy is legally blind without contact lenses!

[RedsMan3203]

Looks like I get Marty and Steve tonight...

Man, Im going to miss George and Chris....


No, really.. I'll miss em...

[RedsMan3203]

Freel K's.

[RedsMan3203]

Dunn K's.

[Patrick Bateman]

I notice Peavy's number (44) is imprinted on the mound. Does anyone know if Peavy always does that?

[RedsMan3203]

I notice Peavy's number (44) is imprinted on the mound. Does anyone know if Peavy always does that?


I wish I could see. ;)

[RedsMan3203]

WKKI just shut off their broadcast... grrrr...

Anyone else picking the game up online?

[RedsMan3203]

JR grounds out to 3rd base...

[RedsMan3203]

W00t! WKKI is back

[Wheelhouse]

WKKI just shut off their broadcast... grrrr...

Anyone else picking the game up online?


www.athensi.com clich on wath am link on right

[Red in Chicago]

i'm really sick of not being able to see a saturday game on tv:thumbdown

[RedsMan3203]

www.athensi.com clich on wath am link on right

Got it, and put that in my fav's... I was on it the other night and couldn't remember the addy...

[RedsMan3203]

Roberts grounds out to the pitcher.

[Red in Chicago]

www.athensi.com clich on wath am link on right

sweet...thanks!!!

[RedsMan3203]

Giles grounds one up the middle for a base hit....


Todd "I kill Reds pitching" Walker comes up.

[RedsMan3203]

Walker lines out hard to Freel in right.

2 down.

[RedsMan3203]

Piazza grounds out.

Inning Over.


End of 1 - Locked up at zero.

[Wheelhouse]

Comin' into the meat of the lineup...let's get 'em!

[MaineRed]

No $#%@ Red in Chicago. All season long the home games have been starting at 6, meaning they are blacked out on directv. Then today I am out of the house all day and figure I can see the game when I get home. But of course not. The game wouldn't be blacked out, the FSN crew is obviously on the left coast and it is 10 o'clock at night for crying out loud. Show the darn game! Especially being such a big game. I live in Maine, so it wouldn't affect me one bit but I think the only games that are not shown should be home games. ALL road games should be televised as you are not losing any revenue when people decide to stay home and watch.

By the way, I tried the radio link but I got a message that said mms is not a registered protocol. Anyone know how to fix that?

[RedsMan3203]

Mr. Edwin is up ....

And Mr. Edwin sits down. With a K.

[RedsMan3203]

Hatte gets on base... he is on with a walk...

Richy up... Will Rich come through in the clutch?

[RedsMan3203]

Aurilia grounds into a double play.

Inning over.

After 1.5 - Tied at 0

[flyer85]

first pitch outs are not going to help

[Patrick Bateman]

first pitch outs are not going to help

Not that swinging at the 1st pitch continuously is a good thing, but doing it occasionally is okay. You're never guaranteed results, but if you never do it, the pitcher gets an easy 1st pitch strike, and that will put you in a big hole.

[RedsMan3203]

Gonzalez flies out to left.

1 down.

[RedsMan3203]

Cameron - basehit to left.

[RedsMan3203]

Blum flies out to right center.

[RedsMan3203]

Barfield homers to deep left.


SD 2 - Reds 0

[Doc. Scott]

And Barfield hammers a two-run homer. 2-0 SD.

[Joseph]

Yikes

[Falls City Beer]

Someone let the air out of the inflatable Lohse.

[RedsMan3203]

Peavy pops up to 2nd.

End of 2

SD 2 - Reds 0

[Patrick Bateman]

Someone let the air out of the inflatable Lohse.


It was one bad pitch. Let's see how he ends the game before proclaiming the guy stinks.

[Falls City Beer]

I hope everyone enjoyed the three good starts we got out of Lohse; Ward was a steep price for those, IMO.

[Falls City Beer]

It was one bad pitch. Let's see how he ends the game before proclaiming the guy stinks.

Yeah, let's ignore years of sub-mediocre to awful pitching he did in Minn.

[RedsMan3203]

Phillips grounds out to SS.

[RedsMan3203]

FCB - You seem like the one that gets to close to the edge you will jump... We need to keep you far far away from the cliff.... Its for our own good.

[RedsMan3203]

Ross K's on a heater up in the zone.

[RedsMan3203]

in game update - Flordia wins in extra innings.

[RedsMan3203]

Lohse K's.

At the end of 3 - SD 2 Reds 0.

Peavy with 5 k's.

[Patrick Bateman]

Yeah, let's ignore years of sub-mediocre to awful pitching he did in Minn.

His track record obviously isn't great, you wont get any disagreements there. However, he's pitched very good since being moved from the rotation in Minny and has pitched well as a Red. I wouldn't call one crappy pitch "letting the air out him". Guys do improve, and it will take more than 1 game to decide his current abilities.

[RedsMan3203]

Roberts bunts, and is thrown out at 1st

[RedsMan3203]

Giles grounds out to 2nd base.

[RedsMan3203]

Walker, walks.

[RedsMan3203]

Piazza hits one into the gap, Walker comes all the way around to score.

SD 3 - Reds 0

[oneupper]

Two out hitting by the Padres.

[Falls City Beer]

I have a feeling the Reds' offense will get blamed for this loss.

[Kc61]

I have a feeling the Reds' offense will get blamed for this loss.

It depends. Will the Reds get a hit?

[RedsMan3203]

Inning is over...

End of 3 - SD 3 - Reds 0

[Patrick Bateman]

I have a feeling the Reds' offense will get blamed for this loss.


Let's see if they even do anything against Peavy. It might be deserved if he throws a no-hitter.

[Falls City Beer]

It depends. Will the Reds get a hit?

Will it matter? Or will the Reds be 10 runs down to an awfull offensive squad in the Padres? Pitchers HAVE to shut this dog of a lineup down.

[RedsMan3203]

Just put it this way, it won't take long for the Reds to get back into the game... That is the good thing about this offense.

[RedsMan3203]

Freel K's.


Thats 6 of em.

[Matt700wlw]

Will it matter? Or will the Reds be 10 runs down to an awfull offensive squad in the Padres? Pitchers HAVE to shut this dog of a lineup down.

If they're down 10 runs it wasn't going to matter anyway.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Adam Dunn with a HR to RF! :thumbup:

[Matt700wlw]

:dunn:

:jump:

[RedsMan3203]

Dunn - Steps up and hits a long ball.

Homerun.

SD 3 - Reds 1

[Falls City Beer]

If they're down 10 runs it wasn't going to matter anyway.

Precisely my point.

[flyer85]

at least they won't get shutout

[RedsMan3203]

:dunn:

:jump:

Was wondering if you were going to join us tonight.

Is the boss cutting down on the number of post you can make a night at the job/

[OldRightHander]

Don't you hate those darn rally killing solo homers?

[George Foster]

someone describe the shot

[SirFelixCat]

Nice shot Dunner...need the O to step up a bit here....

[RedsMan3203]

someone describe the shot

A long fly ball that got over the wall in right.

It was a typical dunn homer.

[RedsMan3203]

JR flies out to right.

2 down

[BCubb2003]

The Padres announcers had just called Dunn "this era's Rob Deer-Dave Kingman package."

[George Foster]

A long fly ball that got over the wall in right.

It was a typical dunn homer.

thanks....

[SirFelixCat]

someone describe the shot



A breaking ball that Peavy hung and Dunn got it off the end of the bat a lil and still it was a no doubter into the 7th row in the RF bleachers :)

[Matt700wlw]

Was wondering if you were going to join us tonight.

Is the boss cutting down on the number of post you can make a night at the job/

I'm about as dead tired as can be tonight.

The tank is about empty....

[RedsMan3203]

Edwin grounds to to SS.

Inning over... After 3.5

SD 3 - Reds 1

[SirFelixCat]

6-3 go for EdE. thru 3.5, 3-1 bad guys.

[Kc61]

Lohse needs to hold Padres here. Reds right now are Arroyo, Harang, and three wishes.

[flyer85]

Lohse needs to hold Padres here. Reds right now are Arroyo, Harang, and three wishes.and it still may be to late, Peavy is looking tough and has thrown few pitches

[NDRed]

at least we broke the no hitter shutout

[RedsMan3203]

I'm about as dead tired as can be tonight.

The tank is about empty....

Well, that 15 inning game last week killed alot of us... With getting no sleep the weekend before and then staying up all night for that... Its killed me...

[Doc. Scott]

The Padres announcers had just called Dunn "this era's Rob Deer-Dave Kingman package."

Then, to their credit, they amend that with "Well, Dunn hits for a much higher average than either of those two guys."

I like Vasgersian and whoever the color guy is. They've done their research.

[BCubb2003]

Then, to their credit, they amend that with "Well, Dunn hits for a much higher average than either of those two guys."

I like Vasgersian and whoever the color guy is. They've done their research.


The play by guy is nuts, though. If anyone thinks Marty has an attitude, they should listen to this guy.

[Kc61]

With top of the Padres order coming up, Reds need to get a lefty up in the bullpen. Don't relish Lohse against Giles/Walker next inning. Bray should get ready.

This is a winnable game. Peavy is good but can have a bad inning somewhere. Would like to see the Reds aggressively try to win this game.

[Doc. Scott]

The play by guy is nuts, though. If anyone thinks Marty has an attitude, they should listen to this guy.

Yeah, he's prone to ESPNisms, but he's still smart and well-researched.

[Wheelhouse]

Well they had a nice game last night. Time to kick back and relax a little bit! Don't put too much pressure on yourselves guys--take a few games off after the win.

[George Foster]

This has to be the lowest number of post through 4 1/2 innings of the year for a game thread. I know I'm not doing my fair share.

[Doc. Scott]

Phillips robs Giles, leaping high to spear his line drive. Two outs in the fifth, nobody on.

[Doc. Scott]

Walker waves at high cheese to finish the inning. 1-2-3 for Lohse, still 3-1 SD after 5.

[kbrake]

Well they had a nice game last night. Time to kick back and relax a little bit! Don't put too much pressure on yourselves guys--take a few games off after the win.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the pitching matchup is Peavy Vs. Loshe. I'm sure it is all about effort. Sometimes you can try really hard and still not hit good pitching.

[NDRed]

good catch by BP?

[George Foster]

that was a quick inning...offense has to start...now.

[Doc. Scott]

Lohse has allowed five hits and three earned in five innings. Not a bad outing; I'd pull an FCB and blame the offense and their one hit and seven strikeouts so far.

[flyer85]

Peavy is going to get the opportunity for a complete game with all these early outs

[Doc. Scott]

In rookie-league action, Drew Stubbs led off the game with his sixth homer, but the Helena Brewers have scored twelve unanswered runs.

Meanwhile, David Ross jumps on the first pitch and lines one to left, but it's caught. One down.

[RedsMan3203]

Lohse has allowed five hits and three earned in five innings. Not a bad outing; I'd pull an FCB and blame the offense and their one hit and seven strikeouts so far.

Sounds good to me Doc

[George Foster]

watching gameday on MLB is like watching paint dry. The guy typing for this game has to be the slowest typer they got....national holiday I guess.

[Doc. Scott]

Lohse manages to hit the ball, but it's a dribbler back to the mound. Two outs.

[Matt700wlw]

Well, that 15 inning game last week killed alot of us... With getting no sleep the weekend before and then staying up all night for that... Its killed me...

I thought it was Sunday when I got up today....

Mercifully, this is the last late game of the season and things return to "normal"

[flyer85]

expanded rosters and still Narron refuses to PH. I guess he figures they're gonna score. I hope he's right

[Kc61]

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the pitching matchup is Peavy Vs. Loshe. I'm sure it is all about effort. Sometimes you can try really hard and still not hit good pitching.

Peavy has a 4.5 ERA. Other teams are hitting him. It's not about effort. On this trip, on the road generally, the Reds don't hit much.

[Doc. Scott]

After striking out twice, Freel watches the first pitch for a strike.

Then watches the second pitch, which is called a ball despite looking like strike two.

Then watches the third pitch. Strike two.

Then Freel swings at one in the dirt and is thrown out trying to reach first.

Three straight Ks for Ryan, eight for Peavy, 3-1 SD after 5.5.

[WVRedsFan]

Is the game on TV anywhere? I find it hard to believe that no one is carrying this game on a Saturday. I guess King Football has taken over the airwaves from now until February. I hate it.

[Doc. Scott]

Peavy has a 4.5 ERA. Other teams are hitting him. It's not about effort. On this trip, on the road generally, the Reds don't hit much.

The most extreme pitcher's park in O.B. doesn't help.

[George Foster]

What is Peavy's pitch count...

[flyer85]

After striking out twice, Freel watches the first pitch for a strike.

Then watches the second pitch, which is called a ball despite looking like strike two.

Then watches the third pitch. Strike two.

Then Freel swings at one in the dirt and is thrown out trying to reach first.

Three straight Ks for Ryan, eight for Peavy, 3-1 SD after 5.5.ryan has been in a major funk for some time. Few hits and no walks is a bad combo for a leadoff hitter

[kbrake]

I thought Peavy had got it together as of late. Either way I just dont like it when people act like fans are the only ones who care, I'm sure this trip has been more frustrating for the players or at least most of them.

[Gallen5862]

How has Lohse looked tonight? Has he been hit hard?

[George Foster]

The most extreme pitcher's park in O.B. doesn't help.

Or at least in the national league. Tiger stadium looked pretty big when we played their as well.

[NDRed]

64 pitches to Peavy

[Doc. Scott]

How has Lohse looked tonight? Has he been hit hard?

No, not too badly. Peavy's just dominated.

[Doc. Scott]

Case in point: Lohse whiffs Mike Piazza on three straight hooks. One down.

[flyer85]

What is Peavy's pitch count...69. He should have little trouble finishing the game from a pitch count perspective

[Doc. Scott]

Or at least in the national league. Tiger stadium looked pretty big when we played their as well.

Petco plays more pro-pitcher. Comerica's had its fences moved in from when it opened.

[NDRed]

your right 69 pitches for Peavy

[Doc. Scott]

Another vicious hook juuuuust a bit outside to Adrian Gonzalez, but he whiffs him anyway on the next one with a change. Three Ks in a row, two out.

[Doc. Scott]

Mike Cameron is 2-for-2, so Lohse walks him on four straight. Two walks.

Bray kicking like a mule in the pen.

[Kc61]

The most extreme pitcher's park in O.B. doesn't help.

Both teams are in the same stadium and one of them is hitting. The Reds have one hit.

There is something fundamentally wrong with an offense that fails so often on the road. Look at the Reds road hitting numbers. Eighth in the NL in runs, 13th in hits.

Lohse hasn't pitched that badly tonight but there is no Reds offense so far.

[flyer85]

Bray kicking like a mule in the pen.better than braying like a jack...

[George Foster]

Off topic:

They just showed the USC cheerleaders. They have to be the best looking cheerleaders in all of football, including the NFL...wow:eek: USC beating Ark. 23-7 in the 3rd.

[George Foster]

Both teams are in the same stadium and one of them is hitting. The Reds have one hit.

There is something fundamentally wrong with an offense that fails so often on the road. Look at the Reds road hitting numbers. Eighth in the NL in runs, 13th in hits.

Lohse hasn't pitched that badly tonight but there is no Reds offense so far.

When ballplayers don't listen or won't listen to the hitting coach, maybe it's time for a new hitting coach.

[Doc. Scott]

Lohse falls behind, but Blum fouls off a couple.

On ball three, Cameron steals second and Ross' throw would have required a stepladder to catch. E-2 puts Mike on third.

[Falls City Beer]

Ross is a defensive butcher. He's the righthanded Eddie Taubensee.

[MaineRed]

People want Ross' bat in the line-up and Larue's D on the bench ......

[NDRed]

loshe gets out of trouble

[MaineRed]

Nice

[Matt700wlw]

People want Ross' bat in the line-up and Larue's D on the bench ......

DF (designated fielder :D)

[Doc. Scott]

It's all for naught, though, as Barfield pops up to short to end the sixth. Still 3-1.

Lohse is likely done- he's close to a hundred pitches.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the info on Lohse Doc scott.

[Doc. Scott]

Dunn leads off the seventh. Only 70 pitches for Peavy through six.

Adam gets ahead 2-0, but Jake evens it up. Ball three runs it full. Whiffed him on a 93-mph fastball; that's nine.

[SirFelixCat]

Lohse has looked good tonight. I have no qualms with a "terrible" pickup by the Reds going 6IP giving up 3ER....

[Doc. Scott]

A 94-mph fastball takes care of Junior. Ten Ks.

[RedsMan3203]

I'd rather face Hoffman then Peavy... Wow.

[Doc. Scott]

EdE takes his usual huge swing and fouls off the first one. Cutter off the outside corner. Another one, same spot. Huge swing through the breaker outside, 2-2. Cheese stays juuuuust outside.

And he walks him on a fastball low. Edwin does a nice job hanging in.

[MaineRed]

I hope everyone enjoyed the three good starts we got out of Lohse; Ward was a steep price for those, IMO.

Make it 4.

I'll take six innings and 3 runs any day the kid wants to pitch for me.

[Doc. Scott]

On ball one to Hatteberg, Edwin steals second. Poor throw by Piazza shorthops the bag, but EdE can't advance further.

[George Foster]

good time for hatty to hit one long and hard....

[Doc. Scott]

Hatteberg fouls one off to even the count at 1, then another to fall behind 1-2.

The sidearmer Meredith and his 0.98 ERA is in the pen.

Cutter low and inside to even it up. Another one is swung on and missed!

Eleven strikeouts, still 3-1 after 6.5.

[George Foster]

Hatty k's

[George Foster]

Hatteberg fouls one off to even the count at 1, then another to fall behind 1-2.

The sidearmer Meredith and his 0.98 ERA is in the pen.

Cutter low and inside to even it up. Another one is swung on and missed!

Eleven strikeouts, still 3-1 after 6.5.

Thanks Doc for the PBP...it really helps!:thumbup:

[flyer85]

Hatty k'smaybe Jerry is gonna be wrong about the Reds scoring more

[RedsMan3203]

I hope Peavy isn't planning on pitching 9... I'd like to see Hoffman for the 9th...

[flyer85]

maybe everyone in the pen is injured

[Doc. Scott]

Josh Barfield leads off the seventh and tries to bunt but fouls it off. Next pitch is hit hard right at Edwin, and the ball kicks off his glove and bounces all the way into the stands. Ruled a ground-rule double.

Surprised that Lohse is still in there.

Peavy bunts, and instead of waiting to see if the ball will roll foul like the announcers were guessing, Ross grabs it and guns to first for the out. Barfield to third on the 2-4 sacrifice.

Pitching change.

[RedFanAlways1966]

REDS current lineup vs. Jake Peavy thru 7 innings tonight...

7-for-64 (.109 BA), 1 double, 1 HR, 2 RBI.

[flyer85]

Surprised that Lohse is still in there.Jerry forgot the rosters expanded

[Falls City Beer]

Surprised that Lohse is still in there.

Really?

[flyer85]

REDS current lineup vs. Jake Peavy thru 7 innings tonight...

7-for-64 (.109 BA), 1 double, 1 HR, 2 RBI.he is lights out against RHBs and Narron ran out a lineup full of them

[Kc61]

Narron just continues to leave starters out there too long. Now he's taking him out but there was no reason for Lohse to pitch more than 6 tonight.

This game tonight is infuriating. Other than the Dunn home run Reds have done exactly nothing right.

[RedsMan3203]

I'd rather see Cormier here

[George Foster]

Josh Barfield leads off the seventh and tries to bunt but fouls it off. Next pitch is hit hard right at Edwin, and the ball kicks off his glove and bounces all the way into the stands. Ruled a ground-rule double.

Surprised that Lohse is still in there.

Is that automatically a ground rule double? What if a line drive bounces off the pitchers leg or the bag and goes in the stands, is that a double as well?

[MaineRed]

he is lights out against RHBs and Narron ran out a lineup full of them

Other than Hollandsworth and Javy, what are the options?

[flyer85]

Narron just continues to leave starters out there too long. Now he's taking him out but there was no reason for Lohse to pitch more than 6 tonight.
Lohse should have been PH for in the top of the 6th, especially since it looked like they couldn't afford to give away anymore outs.

[Patrick Bateman]

he is lights out against RHBs and Narron ran out a lineup full of them

Can you really blame him?

The only other lefties on the bench are Hollandsworth and Valentin, neither of which I would have put in this game.

[Doc. Scott]

Lohse leaves after 6.1: 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K. Make that four ER after Bray lets in his runner.

Roberts pops it up for out number two (the runner is almost picked off), but Giles drops a double to make it 4-1.

Walker then lines a 3-1 pitch into right for a single, scoring Giles and making it 5-1.

[BCubb2003]

This game tonight is infuriating. Other than the Dunn home run Reds have done exactly nothing right.

They're doing great in the left-on-base category.

[TheBigLebowski]

Bill Bray can bite me.

[George Foster]

thank-you Mr. Walker...I get to go to bed eariler than I thought.

[Matt700wlw]

This is going well...

[TheBigLebowski]

Bill Bray can bite me.

Wayne...please undo "The Trade."

[Falls City Beer]

They're doing great in the left-on-base category.

Some more fine pitching is what I see.

[flyer85]

Bill Bray can bite me.Shack has been very tough on lefties. This should have been the situation to have him in the game. If you aren't going to use him in that spot then why is he on the roster?

[Doc. Scott]

Annnnd it's Gary Majewski in for Bray.

Bray: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, plus a runner on first. Not so good, no.

[BCubb2003]

Put the starter back in.

[flyer85]

and that Kearns fella hit a GW 2 run HR tonight. The trade that keeps on giving.

[George Foster]

Magic coming in to pitch. Not a bad time for him to see how he does. Not much pressure.

[TheBigLebowski]

Shack has been very tough on lefties. This should have been the situation to have him in the game. If you aren't going to use him in that spot then why is he on the roster?

This makes waaaay too much sense. Maybe you're not aware that Jerry Narron is our manager.

[TheBigLebowski]

Magic coming in to pitch. Not a bad time for him to see how he does. Not much pressure.

Majewski stinks.

[Kc61]

Can you really blame him?

The only other lefties on the bench are Hollandsworth and Valentin, neither of which I would have put in this game.

Why not start Valentin in a game like this? Tomorrow is a day game, so Ross can use the night off. Team would want Ross in there tomorrow against Wells.

Reds' performance tonight, including managerial, not playoff caliber. Awful.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Other than Hollandsworth and Javy, what are the options?

Hollandsworth vs. Peavy: 1-for-8, 1 double, 1 RBI, 3K.
Javy Valentin vs. Peavy: 2-for-6, both singles.

[Doc. Scott]

Bray is going to get every opportunity over the next couple of years to be a main cog in our bullpen, so I don't have a problem with him being used in key situations. I had a problem with Lohse starting the inning when he was close to his limit.

[Matt700wlw]

Majewski stinks.

He was hurt.

Not a fair sample...supposedly he's healthy now, we'll see.

[Doc. Scott]

Majewski apparently left his hair straightener in Louisville. He's 'froing it tonight.

Fly to center ends the inning. 5-1 SD after 7.

[Falls City Beer]

Majewski retires a MLB hitter.

Someone snag the game ball; he'll want it for his trophy room back home.

[TheBigLebowski]

To Hell with this bad streak.

I am going to make another prediction.

We'll come back and win this game.

You heard it here. I'm all over it.

[flyer85]

Bray is going to get every opportunity over the next couple of years to be a main cog in our bullpen, and little evidence to suggest he will be anything special, likely an above average middle reliever at best

[Patrick Bateman]

Why not start Valentin in a game like this? Tomorrow is a day game, so Ross can use the night off. Team would want Ross in there tomorrow against Wells.

Reds' performance tonight, including managerial, not playoff caliber. Awful.


Good points.

[Doc. Scott]

Gary manages not to sully the #38 and the good name of Jay Tibbs so far.

[TheBigLebowski]

He was hurt.

Not a fair sample...supposedly he's healthy now, we'll see.

IF he was hurt, we never should have traded Lopez/Kearns for him.

I do not believe he was hurt. Just my opinion. Think it was spin for a disastrous trade.

[George Foster]

To Hell with this bad streak.

I am going to make another prediction.

We'll come back and win this game.

You heard it here. I'm all over it.

Now I can't go to bed....thanks. If your right, you will have your swagger back. I got to stay up now.

[Matt700wlw]

IF he was hurt, we never should have traded Lopez/Kearns for him.

I do not believe he was hurt. Just my opinion. Think it was spin for a disastrous trade.

I guess time will tell...

[MaineRed]

Majewski stinks.

Who doesn't stink in your mind? The entire bullpen stinks.

I get the feeling some would stand up and cheer if Marty came on and said:

"wait a minute folks, what is this? I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it but this game has been called because Jerry Narron refuses to send a pitcher out to the mound. Lohse has reached his pitch count and Narron has told the umpires he simply has no major league arms in his pen, hence, this game is over, and it doesn't belong to the Reds."

I'm not convinced that shortly after that, a thread titled, "FINALLY!" would appear on the board.

:beerme:

[Doc. Scott]

and little evidence to suggest he will be anything special, likely an above average middle reliever at best

I wouldn't necessarily say that. He was a first-round draft pick that was in the majors within a year-plus. Wayne probably looked at him and saw JC Romero circa 2002 upside. Problem is that we're getting the JC Romero of 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006.

[REDREAD]

Majewski retires a MLB hitter.

Someone snag the game ball; he'll want it for his trophy room back home.


:lol: Although I must admit, I was expecting a meltdown.

[Doc. Scott]

Aurilia dumps a Texas Leaguer into center for a leadoff single.

[Patrick Bateman]

I do not believe he was hurt. Just my opinion. Think it was spin for a disastrous trade.

No, he was hurt.

Even Jim Bowden admitted it. He simply decided not to tell anybody because Krivsky supposedly didn't ask for the information directly.

[flyer85]

The entire bullpen stinks.

I get the feeling some would stand up and cheer if Marty came on and said:

"wait a minute folks, what is this? I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it but this game has been called because Jerry Narron refuses to send a pitcher out to the mound. Marty wouldn't do that, he told eveyone how improved this bullpen was going to be when the season started.

[REDREAD]

IF he was hurt, we never should have traded Lopez/Kearns for him.

I do not believe he was hurt. Just my opinion. Think it was spin for a disastrous trade.


The "he's hurt" spin doesn't have much impact, considering the Reds simply rested him a week or two before sending him back out to pitch in the minors. Obviously, he wasn't hurt that badly.

Now the Reds' med staff has cleared him to pitch. So no more excuses. He needs to pitch well through the end of the year.

[Doc. Scott]

Phillips golf-drivers through the first pitch, fouls off the second, takes the slider outside, fouls off a fastball down Broadway, then rolls into a 5-4-3 double play. That'd be two of those for Brandon tonight.

[George Foster]

Phillips not having a very good series...0-7

[Doc. Scott]

$100 gets donated by Jack in the Box to Big Brothers Big Sisters because of the DP. So something good happened.

Ross strikes out on three pitches; that's twelve. End of the inning, 5-1 after 7.5.

[flyer85]

The Reds walks have dryed up as the season has moved along and it has taken a toll on scoring runs

[Doc. Scott]

Jason Standridge on to pitch the eighth. He cuts an imposing figure out there- like Team Clark said, if he acquired some stones, he could be a Big Nasty Bastard in the late innings.

[Kc61]

The Reds walks have dryed up as the season has moved along and it has taken a toll on scoring runs

You are right. That's because the Reds aren't good at getting base hits. They are dependent on walks and home runs.

[flyer85]

The "he's hurt" spin doesn't have much impact, considering the Reds simply rested him a week or two before sending him back out to pitch in the minors. Obviously, he wasn't hurt that badly.

Now the Reds' med staff has cleared him to pitch. So no more excuses. He needs to pitch well through the end of the year.as long as you realize that "pitching well" by Majewski is nothing special. It just might look good in comparison to the stiffs that got ran out there earlier this year.

[George Foster]

The Reds walks have dryed up as the season has moved along and it has taken a toll on scoring runs

Is it the Reds or in baseball in general? I don't know the stats, but it seems to me that pitchers out of spring training are not as sharp as hitters. As the season goes on pitchers find there groove. Stats anyone?

[flyer85]

You are right. That's because the Reds aren't good at getting base hits. They are dependent on walks and home runs.and of course they traded two guys that were good at drawing walks.

[Doc. Scott]

Never mind. Standridge walks Gonzalez on four in a row. Frank Pastore's going to rip the #35 right off his back.

[flyer85]

Is it the Reds or in baseball in general? I don't know the stats, but it seems to me that pitchers out of spring training are not as sharp as hitters. As the season goes on pitchers find there groove. Stats anyone?intersting that Kearns has more BBs than Ks since being traded. It was 30-29 the last I looked.

[Doc. Scott]

Shack in the 'pen.

Jason pumps in two straight strikes to Cameron. But Mike dumps a blooper into right for his third hit.

[Falls City Beer]

The Reds' pitchers sure aren't "ahead" of any hitters lately--and that includes Harang.

[RedFanAlways1966]

The Reds walks have dryed up as the season has moved along and it has taken a toll on scoring runs

Pretty much...

Walks/Game ; Runs/Game
Apr. - 4.88 ; 5.96
May - 3.61 ; 4.07
June - 3.81 ; 5.19
July - 3.56 ; 4.72
Aug. - 3.38 ; 5.00

[Doc. Scott]

Blum's grounder to second is tossed to short, but the runner is called safe! Bases are now loaded with nobody out.

I think it's a throwing error on Phillips.

[flyer85]

Shack in the 'pen.
Pssst Jerry, he was needed an inning ago, not now.

[flyer85]

Blum's grounder to second is tossed to short, but the runner is called safe! Bases are now loaded with nobody out.

I think it's a throwing error on Phillips.interesting that amidst all the clamoring to move him to SS, he has made a boatload of errors for a 2B.

[westofyou]

intersting that Kearns has more BBs than Ks since being traded. It was 30-29 the last I looked.

RFK is eating him up, pretty brutal .213/.301/.288/.589 at home

[Doc. Scott]

Grounder to short is converted to the force at home, but Barfield beats the throw to first. One out, bases still jammed for Peavy.

[flyer85]

RFK is eating him up, pretty brutal .213/.301/.288/.589 at homehe did hit a GW HR in the bottom of the 8th there tonight. RFK eats up a lot of hitters not named Soriano.

[Doc. Scott]

Standridge uses his two pitches, a fastball of indeterminate random location and a slider that dives two feet outside, to K Peavy for the second out.

Shack coming on to face Dave Roberts.

[Falls City Beer]

interesting that amidst all the clamoring to move him to SS, he has made a boatload of errors for a 2B.

That's a pretty unfair criticism of Phillips. I have problems with his offensive game, but he's been brilliant defensively. Errors, as you know, mean next to nothing (cf. EdE).

[Doc. Scott]

The other thing I'd say about Standridge: he's what you get when you have a first-round pick who never develops a particular sense of how to pitch or significant offspeed stuff.

[flyer85]

That's a pretty unfair criticism of Phillips. I have problems with his offensive game, but he's been brilliant defensively. Errors, as you know, mean next to nothing (cf. EdE).However, errors are an issue, like it or not. Having 15 errors at 2B translates to a bunch more playing SS which I would doubt is acceptable.

[Patrick Bateman]

interesting that amidst all the clamoring to move him to SS, he has made a boatload of errors for a 2B.


That may be true, but this one wasn't his fault.

[flyer85]

Narron is such an idiot

[George Foster]

oh Shack..........

[WVRedsFan]

Why in the name of all that's baseball do we continue to bring Shack up here to allow ridiculous innings?

Send him out to pasture along with most of this staff including the result of giving away Kearns and Lopez.

Good grief.

[Doc. Scott]

Roberts singles in two with a flare to left. 7-1 Padres, both runs charged to Standridge. One or both possibly unearned due to the E.

[westofyou]

he did hit a GW HR in the bottom of the 8th there tonight. RFK eats up a lot of hitters not named Soriano.

Soriano is having a walk year that makes the union salivate.

[Doc. Scott]

Shack walks Giles on four straight.

[flyer85]

this game just reinforces that despite all the frantic activity the bullpen at its best is the definition of mediocrity.

[Falls City Beer]

However, errors are an issue, like it or not. Having 15 errors at 2B translates to a bunch more playing SS which I would doubt is acceptable.

A "bunch" more? I don't know.

Most of the errors he makes have been minor mental ones like EdE's. I'm not at all worried about his defense. It doesn't even appear on my radar. If he's still committing errors at this rate at 26, I'll be concerned. But not now, not at all.

[George Foster]

Needless to say this was the first and last gamethread started by me...sorry guys...

[Doc. Scott]

Shack is shaming Norm Charlton's #37, even though he looks a lot like him.

[Patrick Bateman]

However, errors are an issue, like it or not. Having 15 errors at 2B translates to a bunch more playing SS which I would doubt is acceptable.

It depends.

FCB made a good point. If he has the range to make up for the errors, it wont be an issue.

[Doc. Scott]

Shack manages to retire banjo-hitting journeyman Manny Alexander, a righty, after failing to retire two lefties. Strikeout ends the inning.

[flyer85]

A "bunch" more? I don't know. any ball not fielding cleanly at SS is an error. at 2b he gets away with those and has done it a number of times. I have serious doubts about his ability to play SS well on an everyday basis. He may be better than the alternatives but I have not seen anything to make me believe he would be anything more than average.

[Patrick Bateman]

any ball not fielding cleanly at SS is an error. at 2b he gets away with those and has done it a number of times. I have serious doubts about his ability to play SS well on an everyday basis. He may be better than the alternatives but I have not seen anything to make me believe he would be anything more than average.

An average fielding SS with a .750-.800 OPS is fine by me.

[Doc. Scott]

Hollandsworth pinch-hitting.

[Doc. Scott]

Todd flies out to left on the second pitch.

[Kc61]

So, the series will rise or fall on the strong left arm of Eric Milton. He did well in SD last year, a good park for fly ball pitchers. Hopefully he will have a good game.

Of course, the Reds will face David Wells, who will be pumped up for the game. Problem for the Reds is that Wells never walks anyone thus taking away a key Red offensive tool.

Reds will need a win tomorrow to avoid dipping below .500. For a number of Reds, they might refer back to this past week if Krivsky decides to remove them from the team in the off-season.

Having followed the team this past week, all I can say is that it has been most unpleasant.

[flyer85]

It depends.

FCB made a good point. If he has the range to make up for the errors, it wont be an issue.at some point the errors hurt and you can't get away from that. The goal should be good range with a manageable number of errors. The Reds don't get that from EE and I wonder if they would from BP at SS. He may end up there next season simply because he is the best option available and its probably a good idea to try it before they go out an acquire someone else.

[Falls City Beer]

An average fielding SS with a .750-.800 OPS is fine by me.

He'll be better than average defensively, much better. He has excellent instincts/reactions.

I doubt, however, that he'll spend a lot of time north of a .750 OPS.

[Doc. Scott]

Freel and Farney run the count full, then whiff on the high cheese to pick up the golden sombrero.

[Doc. Scott]

Dunn waves at the first one, takes the cutter just outside, fouls back a fastball, and feebly reaches at the last one to give Jake his 14th strikeout and a two-hitter. 7-1, San Diego takes it.

Reds fall 1.5 out in the wildcard again.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds lose, but a really impressive performance by Peavy. Someday I hope the Reds get some pitching. Someday.

[Matt700wlw]

Wow...114 pitches, 14 Ks, 2 hits, 1 run, CG.

Impressive.

[westofyou]

Peavy can be a beast.

[flyer85]

Dunn waves at the first one, takes the cutter just outside, fouls back a fastball, and feebly reaches at the last one to give Jake his 14th strikeout and a two-hitter. 7-1, San Diego takes it.

Reds fall 1.5 out in the wildcard again.and to be honest the only way this team will stay in the hunt is the ineptitude of the other teams. It somebody gets to 85 wins it should be enough but I don't think it will take that many.

[Patrick Bateman]

He'll be better than average defensively, much better. He has excellent instincts/reactions.

I doubt, however, that he'll spend a lot of time north of a .750 OPS.

I'm just saying that if he's only average at SS like Flyer suggested, that would still make him an asset.

[Matt700wlw]

.500 again.

Joy.

[Kc61]

I'm just saying that if he's only average at SS like Flyer suggested, that would still make him an asset.

EE and Phillips are two guys I see as mainstays the next few years. Where Phillips plays depends on who else the Reds gets in the off-season. If they can get a good shortstop, he'd probably stay at second.

[Patrick Bateman]

In the end, it's hard to blame this game on anybody.

Lohse pitched a decent enough games. It would have been a good idea to end his night at 6 IP and 3 runs for the need of scoring runs, but even after that, if EE makes a decent play on the ball instead of turning it into a double Lohse only gives up the 3 runs instead of 4.

Hard to blame the offense the way Peavy was dealing. He was unhittable tonight. When Peavy is on, it's awfully difficult to beat him.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Adam Dunn - 197
9. Vada Pinson - 186
10. Wally Post - 172
11. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 164
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[redsrule2500]

sad, only 2 hits. wow

back to .500 :(

[PuffyPig]

He'll be better than average defensively, much better. He has excellent instincts/reactions.

I doubt, however, that he'll spend a lot of time north of a .750 OPS.

I certainly agree that he'll be a fine SS, perhaps a gold flover one day.

He has spent all season in the .800 range of OPS, so I could see him spending lots of time above .750. After all, he's spent all season .50 points above that range.