9-5 vs Giants -- Hollandsworth over Deno

[Matt700wlw]

REDS

R Freel CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276 .368 .404
S Hatteberg 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308 .402 .476
R Aurilia SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297 .345 .537
A Dunn LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244 .371 .527
E Encarnacion 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291 .375 .517
T Hollandsworth RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222 .300 .259
B Phillips 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292 .340 .447
D Ross C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272 .363 .619
B Arroyo P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .121 .159 .242


GIANTS

S Finley CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .249 .322 .391
O Vizquel SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306 .370 .404
S Hillenbrand 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255 .280 .471
B Bonds LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .263 .462 .539
R Durham 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295 .362 .525
M Alou RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295 .351 .539
P Feliz 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .288 .447
E Alfonzo C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .281 .319 .498
M Morris P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .185 .200 .241

[flyer85]

I guess it's still not Deno's time.

Situation is past critical and the best we can come up with for RF is Hollandsworth. Sad

[Falls City Beer]

I guess it's still not Deno's time.

I'm sure Hollandsworth had a HR off Morris back in 98 or something.

[oneupper]

I guess it's still not Deno's time.

Situation is past critical and the best we can come up with for RF is Hollandsworth. Sad

With Narron, it never will be.

If you HAVE to play Hollandsworth, Deno IMO could be a better choice than Freel to play CF and lead off against a righty.
(Freel .728 OPS vs. RHP in 2006).

[WMR]

Would you really expect anything different out of Narron?

Choosing Hollandsworth over Deno is as easy as falling out of bed.

[Heath]

Rich Aurilia is OPS'ing .882

What deal with the devil did he make. Yipes.

[dougdirt]

Not only does Deno not start in favor of Hollandsworth, Narron slaps humility all over Phillips and Ross by batting Hollandsworth in front of them.

[Doc. Scott]

Not only does Deno not start in favor of Hollandsworth, Narron slaps humility all over Phillips and Ross by batting Hollandsworth in front of them.

It's all about your handedness, not your ability. So Todd is being rewarded for either being born that way or having a mean dad who also coached his T-Ball team.

[Doc. Scott]

I'm sure Hollandsworth had a HR off Morris back in 98 or something.

Nope. 3-for-21 with two doubles, two walks, and seven strikeouts.

.143/.217/.238.

Meanwhile, Denorfia is batting .500/.500/1.000 against Morris. That's right- a double in two trips.

(cue someone complaining about the thousand-plus OPS points we're giving up)

[RedLegSuperStar]

REDS

R Freel CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276 .368 .404
S Hatteberg 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308 .402 .476
R Aurilia SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297 .345 .537
A Dunn LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244 .371 .527
E Encarnacion 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291 .375 .517
T Hollandsworth RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222 .300 .259
B Phillips 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .292 .340 .447
D Ross C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272 .363 .619
B Arroyo P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .121 .159 .242

My Prediction Yesterday (http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50987&page=20)



Ryan Freel CF
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Adam Dunn LF
Rich Aurilia SS
David Ross C
Todd Hollandsworth RF
Brandon Phillips 2B

Narron must be viewing RedsZone.com for tips cause he switch Edwin and Rich and move Ross down to 8th..

[RedsManRick]

Rich Aurilia is OPS'ing .882

What deal with the devil did he make. Yipes.

It wasn't a deal with the devil. It was a deal with the God of platoons. The Aurilia/Hatteberg platoon has simply been the best decision Narron has made all year.

Over the last three years, Aurilia has hit .100 OPS points higher against lefties. This year, he's gone extreme, absolutely destroying left handed pitching to the tune of a 1.150 OPS, while maintaining his pedestrian .746 against righties.

Rich has 24 extra base hits in 122 AB versus lefties and 21 in 245 AB versus righties. To put it another way, against lefties he's Albert Pujols, against righties he's Todd Hollandsworth...

[RedLegSuperStar]

I'm going out on a limb on this and maybe cuase Matt has better luck at posting game threads than myself.. but..

Reds Will Win Tonight!

[Matt700wlw]

I hope I can stop the bleeding.

:D

[Matt700wlw]

Good 1,2,3 start for Arroyo.

[NDRed]

freel starting it off with a walk

[Matt700wlw]

Freelin' and stealin'

[NDRed]

stolen base

[Matt700wlw]

Wow...Morris walks Hatte and has not thrown a strike yet.

[flyer85]

Morris didn't walk a batter in SF, now two already

Reds better take advantage now

[NDRed]

8 pitches 8 balls

[Reds Fanatic]

Aurilia singles in a run. 1-0 Reds

[NDRed]

early lead hang on to it arroyo

[flyer85]

terrible call by the 3b umpire

[Reds Fanatic]

Another walk. Bases loaded.

[Matt700wlw]

Eddie can be BIG here

[NDRed]

we need a grand slam

[NDRed]

still no outs

[Reds Fanatic]

EE hits a sac. fly to center. 2-0 Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hollandsworth doubles to right. 3-0 Reds. 2nd and 3rd.

[Matt700wlw]

Holly!

[NDRed]

more than i expected from hollandsworth

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips in an argument with the home plate ump on the strikeout call on the checked swing.

[Matt700wlw]

These umps are stingy on check swings...

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross walked intentionally to once again load the bases.

[NDRed]

we need that 3rd homer from Arroyo

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo strikes out. 3-0 Reds after 1.

[Wheelhouse]

Well two missed swing calls on the umps that inning.

[PuffyPig]

Phillips went. Dunn did not.

[flyer85]

I just don't understand how BP got fooled on that 3-2 pitch. He only seen one fastball in the AB and it wasn't close to a strike. With a base open no way Morris gives in there.

[Big Klu]

more than i expected from hollandsworth

At this point in the season, I feel more confident with Hollandsworth's bat than I do with Denorfia's.

[NDRed]

What did Bonds do?

[Reds Fanatic]

What did Bonds do?
Grounded out to 2nd.

[Matt700wlw]

What did Bonds do?

ground out

[redsfan30]

What did Bonds do?

Grounded out to Phillips playing short right via the shift.

[Red in Chicago]

wow, can't wait to see the attendance figures for tonight...looking sad as of now

[Falls City Beer]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.

He wasn't dealing. You don't "deal" with an 88 MPH fastball--you get by.

[redsfan30]

Just so everyone knows....it looks like tomorrow's day game is going to be shown on ESPN.

Gary Thorne and Steve Stone....HHHOOOORAH!

[Reds Fanatic]

Another 1-2-3 inning for Arroyo. 3-0 Reds mid 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Just so everyone knows....it looks like tomorrow's day game is going to be shown on ESPN.

Gary Thorn and Steve Stone....HHHOOOORAH!
Yes it is on ESPN and ESPNHD.

[NDRed]

thanks because i saw he grounded out to right on my computer

[Red in Chicago]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.

He wasn't dealing. You don't "deal" with an 88 MPH fastball--you get by.

in one inning today, he walked four and allowed two hits, but only three runs...he's got us right where he wants us:devil:

[redsfan30]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.

He wasn't dealing. You don't "deal" with an 88 MPH fastball--you get by.
No matter how you slice it, his curveball was devistating that night.

Through one inning tonight, it hasn't been, thus he got beat around a bit.

[flyer85]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.

He wasn't dealing. You don't "deal" with an 88 MPH fastball--you get by.it was the curve that night(his curve was rolling a lot in the first inning). Welsh made a semi-lucid comment about how damp and humid it was that night in Frisco, perfect for getting bite on a curve.

[Falls City Beer]

No matter how you slice it, his curveball was devistating that night.

Through one inning tonight, it hasn't been, thus he got beat around a bit.

A curveball is mostly devastating relative to the FB. The Reds beat themselves that night.

[redsfan30]

Freel grounds to a drawn in thirdbaseman for the first out of the second.

[Matt700wlw]

Yes it is on ESPN and ESPNHD.

Oh good...I got spoiled by seeing basically every game on TV during the first half of the year...

[redsfan30]

Hatteberg grounds out to short.

2 out.

[PuffyPig]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.

He wasn't dealing. You don't "deal" with an 88 MPH fastball--you get by.

Morris and Arroyo have been similiar pitchers this year, with similiar DIPS ERA.

Morris has some good games and some bad games.

I'm hoping this is one of his bad games.

[redsfan30]

Aurilia hits on off the end of the bat on a fly to right to end the inning.

After 2

Giants 0
Reds 3

[Falls City Beer]

Morris and Arroyo have been similiar pitchers this year, with similiar DIPS ERA.

Morris has some good games and some bad games.

I'm hoping this is one of his bad games.

Yeah, and Morris and Arroyo couldn't pitch in more diametrically opposed home fields viz. the home run ball.

Morris is a turd.

[redsfan30]

Pedro Feliz fouls out around the plate.

1 out.

[pedro]

Morris pitched a really good game in SF. It happens from time to time.

[redsfan30]

Alfonzo strikes out swinging for out number two.

[redsfan30]

Matt Morris grounds out to short to end the inning.

Still 3-0 Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another 1-2-3 inning for Arroyo.

[MaineRed]

Morris is a turd.

I suppose this falls under the description of a profanity laced post in your book?

[redsfan30]

FCB,

Why is it so hard to believe that Morris is capable of pitching a good game once in a while, and did so a week ago Friday?

Nobody's accusing him of being a great pitcher, just acknowledging that he pitched a good game.

[redsfan30]

Didn't mean to step on your PBP feet, RF.

If you want, you can go back to it.

[NDRed]

no hitter going for arroyo

[VR]

Impressed to see Morris trucking down the line on a routine grounder.

Arroyo is dealin tonight. He's fun to watch when he has the spinner working.

[westofyou]

Why the Reds couldn't hit this schmuck in SF is beyond comprehension.Baseball is a funny game, not a science or therom, sometimes Bumpus Jones sez hello.

[Reds Fanatic]

No that's fine I am busy with work tonight so I can't really do it tonight.

[Matt700wlw]

FCB,

Why is it so hard to believe that Morris is capable of pitching a good game once in a while, and did so a week ago Friday?

Nobody's accusing him of being a great pitcher, just acknowledging that he pitched a good game.

Big Leaguers are in big leaguers for a reason....even the worst of the bunch have good days once in a while and are better than any of us ever will be.

Hell, Ramon Ortiz almost threw a no-hitter yesterday...even 2 of the best ever in Maddux and Clemens haven't done that.

Odd game.

[redsfan30]

I'll take it for a while then.

Dunn strikes out on Morris' curve....I guess that makes Dunn a turd, too?

1 out.

[redsfan30]

Encarnacion flies out to left for the second out.

Edwin was just slightly out on his front foot....if he stayed back just a hair, it would have been in the seats.

[pedro]

Baseball is a funny game, not a science or therom, sometimes Bumpus Jones sez hello.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumpus_Jones

[VR]

good gravy....I didn't realize Dunn had only managed a .170 ish average since August 1, with a K 40% of the time.

[redsfan30]

Todd Hollandsworth grounds one hard into right field for a two out single.

[pedro]

good gravy....I didn't realize Dunn had only managed a .170 ish average since August 1, with a K 40% of the time.

yeah, he's doing pretty crappy after his fine July.

[CrackerJack]

That was funny

[Reds Fanatic]

Hollandsworth would have scored but he tripped between 3rd and home.

[Matt700wlw]

Todd Hollandsworth would have scored from first, but falls flat on his face, and has to scamper back to third. :laugh:


"Hardly the Usual" Top 10 candidate for Friday's SC.

[MrCinatit]

Hollandsworth is pure grace on the basepaths.

[redsfan30]

Brandon Phillips doubles into the leftfield corner....Hollandsworth was being sent home and it looks like he slipped going around the bag.

End result: runners at second and third with two out.

Ross will be intentionally walked again to load the bases for Arroyo.

[flyer85]

high comedy once again. mr red must have got him

[VR]

The Reds last dozen games wrapped up in one play.

[Red in Chicago]

let's hope that base running snafu doesn't come back to haunt us

[redsfan30]

Bronson Arroyo bunts right back to the pitcher to end the inning.

After 3

Reds lead 3-0.

[Matt700wlw]

Now they don't score...

[Reds Fanatic]

I have a bad feeling about the run they just gave away.

[Big Klu]

Hollandsworth should have gotten up and continued home. If he's out--so be it.

(But I can't blame a guy for going to the nearest bag when he loses his footing.)

[flyer85]

I have a bad feeling about the run they just gave away.of late they are certainly a team that can't afford to give away runs

[oneupper]

Hollandsworth should have gotten up and continued home. If he's out--so be it.

(But I can't blame a guy for going to the nearest bag when he loses his footing.)

Agreed. Not really the kind of thing you work on in practice, though.

[redsfan30]

Things like that happen, but they get magnified in the middle of the worst team slump of the season.

[Big Klu]

Agreed. Not really the kind of thing you work on in practice, though.

But it is the kind of thing that Mark Berry should be telling him...

"Todd! Get up! Get up! Go...go...go!!!"

[redsfan30]

Steve Finley walks to lead off the 4th.

[redsfan30]

Arroyo looks like he left his control in the dugout.

[flyer85]

has the feel of a game where the lead could go quickly

[redsfan30]

Omar Vizquel grounds into a 3-6 fielders choice.

1 out.

[Red in Chicago]

Arroyo looks like he left his control in the dugout.

you can almost feel a two run bomb coming, can't you

[RedLegSuperStar]

Steve Finley walks to lead off the 4th.

there went perfection

[redsfan30]

Shea Hillenbrand grounds one to short and Aurilia goes deep in the hole to field the ball and get the force at second.

Outstanding play for the second out of the inning.

[oneupper]

Shea Hillenbrand grounds one to short and Aurilia goes deep in the hole to field the ball and get the force at second.

Outstanding play for the second out of the inning.

Nice pick by BP on the throw in the dirt.

[redsfan30]

Barry Bonds walks (unintentional intentional walk).

[redsfan30]

Ray Durham (who is hitting .467 after a Bonds walk) pops out to second to end the inning.

3-0 Reds in the middle of the 4th.

[redsfan30]

I realize this is just the normal tone of the gamethread, but this is the result of what's happened over the last five years.

Reds have a three run lead and most of the comments you see are waiting for the lead to fall.

Kinda sad, really.

[redsfan30]

Ryan Freel grounds out to third for the first out of the fourth.

[redsfan30]

Scott Hatteberg grounds out to short.

2 out.

[Falls City Beer]

I realize this is just the normal tone of the gamethread, but this is the result of what's happened over the last five years.



Now there's some wisdom. This "tone" didn't get invented by a bunch of negative nellies looking to kill everyone's buzz for no reason whatsoever.

We've been taught by the last six years to anticipate crap. And 99 times of 100, we're right. It IS sad. I want it to stop.

[KoryMac5]

I realize this is just the normal tone of the gamethread, but this is the result of what's happened over the last five years.

Reds have a three run lead and most of the comments you see are waiting for the lead to fall.

Kinda sad, really.

It's due to the fact that over the last three years Reds fans have been tortured with bad teams and bad play. It's going to take a few good years to get the fans confidence back.

[redsfan30]

Rich Aurilia singles to center.

He just keeps right on hitting.

[Red in Chicago]

i think the fact that there are about 20,000 empty seats tonight goes along with the tone of this board:p:

[redsfan30]

Adam Dunn strikes out to end the inning.

After 4

Reds up 3-0.

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn has icicles hanging off his bat.

[redsfan30]

Moises Alou strikes out swinging on a high fastball.

1 out.

[redsfan30]

Pedro Feliz strikes out swinging on a ball in the dirt.

2 out.

[redsfan30]

Eliezer Alfonzo singles to left to break up the no hitter.

[Matt700wlw]

The no-no is no more.

[OnBaseMachine]

Arroyo's no-no is broken up by the 8th hitter.

[VR]

I realize this is just the normal tone of the gamethread, but this is the result of what's happened over the last five years.

Reds have a three run lead and most of the comments you see are waiting for the lead to fall.

Kinda sad, really.

It would seem to be the theme in the dugout, not just Redszone

[redsfan30]

Matt Morris bloops one to right and Hollandsworth made a great effort to get to the ball, but couldn't.

Runners at first and third with two outs.

[NDRed]

not good

[redsfan30]

Steve Finley grounds out to second to end the inning.

3-0 Reds in the middle of the 5th.

[NDRed]

reds batting 6 BB 5 Hits 3 runs

[redsfan30]

Edwin Encarnacion grounds out to third.

1 out.

[redsfan30]

Todd Hollandsworth flies out to right....Alou caught the ball with his back on the wall.

2 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Holly just about had that one!

[NDRed]

how close was that from a homer

[redsfan30]

Phillips grounds one to third that Feliz makes a nice diving stop on and threw him out.

After 5

Reds lead 3-0.

[redsfan30]

how close was that from a homer
Real close. Ball must not be carrying well tonight because off the bat it looked well gone.

I was already typing that he had hit a homer.

[Matt700wlw]

how close was that from a homer

About as close at it could be without actually going out.

Alou had his back literally on the wall when he caught it

[VR]

how close was that from a homer
8-10 feet

Reds did score 3 in the 1st.

[oneupper]

how close was that from a homer

Close. Alou caught it two feet from the wall. (no jumping required).

[Matt700wlw]

Real close. Ball must not be carrying well tonight because off the bat it looked well gone.



Cool weather, no humidity....could be a factor.

[PuffyPig]

how close was that from a homer


It looked like a Homer off his bat. It was about two feet short.

[redsfan30]

8-10 feet

Reds did score 3 in the 1st.
Nowhere near that far.

[redsfan30]

Omar Vizquel lines softly to second.

1 out.

[NDRed]

thank you

[redsfan30]

Shea Hillenbrand strikes out swinging.

2 out.

[NDRed]

strike out

[redsfan30]

Barry Bonds flies out to left.

After 5 1/2

Reds still lead 3-0.

[NDRed]

Arroyos stats 83 pitches 2 hits 2 walks 6 strikeouts

[redsfan30]

David Ross opens the bottom of the 6th with a double to the left field corner.

[Big Klu]

Did George just say, "Frank Tanana and Rick Reuschel are the two pitchers to give up a homer to both Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds, the two 700-home-run hitters in major-league history."

What?! Has GG never heard of George Herman "Babe" Ruth?! :explode:

[NDRed]

good bunt please

[redsfan30]

Bronson Arroyo grounds a ROCKET to third (I mean a ROCKET), but the runner has to hold at second.

1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Arroyo swings away, unfortunately, right at Feliz.

[oneupper]

I liked that.

[redsfan30]

Ryan Freel grounds out to short, again Ross has to hold.

2 out.

[RedFanAlways1966]

What?! Has GG never heard of George Herman "Babe" Ruth?! :explode:

I thought he was a pitcher that had a candy bar named after him?!? ;)

[oneupper]

Did George just say, "Frank Tanana and Rick Reuschel are the two pitchers to give up a homer to both Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds, the two 700-home-run hitters in major-league history."

What?! Has GG never heard of George Herman "Babe" Ruth?! :explode:

You're killing me, SMALLS

[Matt700wlw]

I liked that.

I did too...I don't think the Giants were looking for it....

Good idea, just didn't work.

[oneupper]

Freel has been less than spectacular against RHP.

[redsfan30]

Scott Hatteberg hits one up the line at first that Hillenbrand gloves and takes to the bag.

After 6

Reds 3
Giants 0

[Matt700wlw]

Freel has been less than spectacular against RHP.

Or with RISP

[NDRed]

reds have to score whenever they have a runners on second or third no outs

[VR]

reds have to score whenever they have a runners on second or third no outs

Why? they scored 3 in the 1st?;)

[oneupper]

REDS OPS is A LOT higher vs. LH...
.848 vs. 764 (something like that).

Thats when you really miss Felipe's bat vs. RHP.
Same as Kearns vs. Freel (Kearns better vs. RHP).

Picking up a bat like Hollandsworth ain't enough.

[NDRed]

another run is never bad

[redsfan30]

Ray Durham leads off the top of the seventh by getting jammed and hitting a fly ball to center that's put away by Freel.

1 out.

[redsfan30]

Moises Alou flies out to Aurilia in short left field.

2 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Sun Wu Kim's ERA is 19.29....are we sure that's not how much he cost?

[MrCinatit]

Did George just say, "Frank Tanana and Rick Reuschel are the two pitchers to give up a homer to both Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds, the two 700-home-run hitters in major-league history."

What?! Has GG never heard of George Herman "Babe" Ruth?! :explode:

Earlier, the Aflack trivia question was "What four Reds pitchers have given up a homer to a batter already with 700 homers".
Ruth's name again was not mentioned. Guess that whole Boston Braves thing never really happened.

[redsfan30]

Pedro Feliz strikes out swinging to end the inning.

Middle of the 7th, score remains 3-0 Reds.

[oneupper]

Earlier, the Aflack trivia question was "What four Reds pitchers have given up a homer to a batter already with 700 homers".
Ruth's name again was not mentioned. Guess that whole Boston Braves thing never really happened.

Well it did. But Ruth didn't hit a HR vs. the REds that season. (he only hit 6...3 in one game vs the Pirates.)

[vaticanplum]

Well it did. But Ruth didn't hit a HR vs. the REds that season. (he only hit 6...3 in one game vs the Pirates.)

Please tell me you looked that up.

[Kc61]

Arroyo over 200 innings. 3.36 ERA. Not too shabby.

[redsfan30]

Rich Aurilia leads off the bottom of the seventh by reaching on an infield single deep in the hole at short.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Earlier, the Aflack trivia question was "What four Reds pitchers have given up a homer to a batter already with 700 homers".
Ruth's name again was not mentioned. Guess that whole Boston Braves thing never really happened.

One season (28 games) and only 6 HRs for Babe w/ the Braves. There is a good chance that no REDS hurlers surrendered a dinger to Babe that season (1935).

[redsfan30]

Adam Dunn grounds into an easy 6-3 double play.

2 out.

[oneupper]

Please tell me you looked that up.

I did. But I knew the 3 HR in one game thing. The other 3: One was vs the Giants (Carl Hubbell) one vs.Brooklyn and another vs. the Cubs.

[redsfan30]

Edwin Encarnacion grounds out on another nice play by Vizquel.

Moving to the 8th....score still hasn't changed.

[RedFanAlways1966]

I did. But I knew the 3 HR in one game thing. One was vs the Giants (Carl Hubbell) one vs.Brooklyn and another vs. the Cubs.

Dang... I'm burnin' my Baseball Encyclopedia and coming to oneupper with questions! :D

[vaticanplum]

Arroyo over 200 innings. 3.36 ERA. Not too shabby.

Holy schlep...it's unthinkable what he could have done had he kept up his initial pace. I know that was pretty much impossible, but this ERA as it stands is a reminder of just what a help he has been to this team even with the bad games. The Reds may currently be eating dinner in my doghouse, but it's nice to be reminded that they did manage to come across a few pots of gold this season that will hopefully serve them well long-term.

[George Foster]

Rich Aurilia leads off the bottom of the seventh by reaching on an infield single deep in the hole at short.

Lets sign him now!

[oneupper]

Dang... I'm burnin' my Baseball Encyclopedia and coming to oneupper with questions! :D

The internet is a wonderful thing. Google Babe Ruth Home Run Log.

[Falls City Beer]

Holy schlep...it's unthinkable what he could have done had he kept up his initial pace. I know that was pretty much impossible, but this ERA as it stands is a reminder of just what a help he has been to this team even with the bad games. The Reds may currently be eating dinner in my doghouse, but it's nice to be reminded that they did manage to come across a few pots of gold this season that will hopefully serve them well long-term.

Wayne built one masterpiece this season--and the guy on the mound is it.

Great pick-up.

[VR]

Lets sign him now!

.05 from Dunn on the OPS-o-meter.

[redsfan30]

Leading off the 8th inning for the Giants, Eliezer Alfonzo grounds out to short.

1 out.

[VR]

Wayne built one masterpiece this season--and the guy on the mound is it.

Great pick-up.

David and Brandon say 'ciao'

[Matt700wlw]

Wayne built one masterpiece this season--and the guy on the mound is it.

Great pick-up.

We may disagree on Wayne Krivsky, but there's 2 other trades I KNOW we'll also agree on.

The guy behind the plate, and the guy at second.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Wayne built one masterpiece this season--and the guy on the mound is it.

Great pick-up.

That whatshisname at 2nd base hasn't been too bad. And who knows how he'll do in the future since he is fairly young. Perhaps he'll be a SS.

[Big Klu]

Sun Wu Kim's ERA is 19.29....are we sure that's not how much he cost?

But wait, there's more! You also get the Ginsu! :D

[redsfan30]

Mark Sweeney (hitting for Matt Morris) grounds out to second.

2 out.

[Falls City Beer]

David and Brandon say 'ciao'

Brandon, yeah.

David--let's face it: luck and career year. By that measure we should be pimping O'Brien's decision to play Nacho Libre last year to mine his career year.

[oneupper]

Deno in LF for Dunn. (didn't see it mentioned).

[redsfan30]

Steve Finley grounds out to short to end the inning

If Arroyo's done, he pitched one hell of a ballgame tonight.

Middle of the 8th, still 3-0 Reds.

[George Foster]

Arroyo is just "on" tonight.:beerme:

[Big Klu]

Bronson's dealing. I would let him finish.

[Matt700wlw]

8 innings 113 pitches (I think).

Tough call....he's had a stress-free night.

[redsfan30]

How can you say Ross' year is luck/career year...but Phillips' isn't?

The difference between Ross and Javier last year is Javier is old and been bad at the plate for years. You knew his was a career year.

Ross is young and talented. Can't say it's luck/career year just yet.

[Kc61]

Let Arroyo try for the shutout.

Mariana Rivera's unavailable tonight anyway.

[redsfan30]

I'd leave it up to Arroyo. He's said before the way he pitches he doesn't really need a pitch count.

We'll see.

[vaticanplum]

I love David Ross, but I do think there's a very good chance that this was his career year. to me there's no question that he'll fall off next year offensively; it's just a question of how much, and it's also a question of whether his sub-par catching skills will be more exposed and noted with less offensive production.

We had Valentin last year, Ross this year. I'm all for lucking into a career-year catcher every season...or maybe LaRue is due (no, really).

[Falls City Beer]

How can you say Ross' year is luck/career year...but Phillips' isn't?

The difference between Ross and Javier last year is Javier is old and been bad at the plate for years. You knew his was a career year.

Ross is young and talented. Can't say it's luck/career year just yet.

Ross is young?

Phillips is young. And has clear skills that needed to come together.

Ross has been a nice surprise, but he's not a GREAT pickup, I'm sorry.

[redsfan30]

Todd Hollandsworth leads off the bottom of the 8th for the Reds singling sharply to center.

[George Foster]

Holly has to start tomorrow....3 hits. Let him play.

[vaticanplum]

what has happened to Todd Hollandsworth?

[redsfan30]

Brandon Phillips pops the bunt attempt up to the pitcher.

1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Arroyo is on deck.

[WMR]

Sheesh that was an ugly 'bunt.'

[oneupper]

Wise in for Hollandsworth at first. Hopefully he won't fall on his face.

[redsfan30]

Dewayne Wise is now running for Hollandsworth and Scott Munter is now pitching, by the way.

[redsfan30]

David Ross hits into a 5-4-3 inning ending double play.

We move to the 9th...still 3-0 Reds.

[VR]

I love David Ross, but I do think there's a very good chance that this was his career year. to me there's no question that he'll fall off next year offensively; it's just a question of how much, and it's also a question of whether his sub-par catching skills will be more exposed and noted with less offensive production.

We had Valentin last year, Ross this year. I'm all for lucking into a career-year catcher every season...or maybe LaRue is due (no, really).

Any chance at all he improved? I heard players do that occasionally :)

His plate approach is heads and shoulders above LaRue and Valentin. He hasn't OPS'ed below .900 in any month this year. He may fall off, but then again he might continue improving. At the very least, he's made LaRue very, very expendable.

[oneupper]

Hitting for Arroyo not an issue now. Bonds will hit third in the 9th.

[redsfan30]

Wow...I didn't realize David Ross was already 29 years old. I thought he was younger than that.

Maybe it is a career year afterall, FCB.

[Big Klu]

what has happened to Todd Hollandsworth?

3-for-4 tonight raises his batting average to .290.

[redsfan30]

Bronson Arroyo will start the inning!

[oneupper]

Any chance at all he improved? I heard players do that occasionally :)

His plate approach is heads and shoulders above LaRue and Valentin. He hasn't OPS'ed below .900 in any month this year. He may fall off, but then again he might continue improving. At the very least, he's made LaRue very, very expendable.

If LaRue goes, a Ross/Valentin platoon would be nice for 2007. Ross has killed LHP this year.

[redsfan30]

Juan Castro enters the game playing short, Aurilia shifts to third, Encarnacion out.

[redsfan30]

Omar Vizquel leads off the 9th with a single to left.

[redsfan30]

Denorfia is now in left with Wise staying in right as well.

[oneupper]

Arroyo should not pitch to Bonds if Hillenbrand gets on. (get him out, please)

[redsfan30]

Shea Hillenbrand hits into a 5-4-3 double play!

2 out.

[Big Klu]

Juan Castro enters the game playing short, Aurilia shifts to third, Encarnacion out.

Also, Wise stays in the game in RF.

5-4-3 DP!

[Matt700wlw]

YES!!!

Double play!!

Get Bonds, Bronson!!

[George Foster]

Great DP!!! let Bonds hit.....

[harangatang]

Twin killing, thanks Richy boy.

[WMR]

Oh my GOD WE WON!!!

[redsfan30]

Barry Bonds pops out to short to end the ballgame.

And this one belongs to the Reds!

Complete game shutout for Bronson Arroyo.

Hell of a night, Bronson!

[Kc61]

On three days' rest, in the home run ballpark, brilliant outing for Arroyo.

[George Foster]

Best game of the year for Arroyo!!!!:thumbup: :beerme:

[harangatang]

Reds win, there's hope.

[reds44]

That was much needed.

Still breathing.

[Gainesville Red]

That was quick. What is that, just a shade over 2 hours? Cool.

[vaticanplum]

Any chance at all he improved? I heard players do that occasionally :)

His plate approach is heads and shoulders above LaRue and Valentin. He hasn't OPS'ed below .900 in any month this year. He may fall off, but then again he might continue improving. At the very least, he's made LaRue very, very expendable.

It's just a gut feeling -- his stats are very good. There is a part of me that wonders also whether Cincinnati was just a better fit for him or whether he responded well to the coaching here. I still expect him to drop off a bit, and I expect LaRue to get more playing time as long as he's still on the team (as great a year as Ross had, Jason's had a horrible one, and i think they'll meet somewhere closer to the middle and the playing time will reflect that). I know that a lot of people are down on LaRue right now, but really, they're not a bad platoon -- currently horrific offense with great athletic catching vs. amazing offense vs. groan-inducing defense (sometimes). And then Nacho Pornstache or whatever you guys call him.

[oneupper]

Good win. Bats still not alive, though.
Gotta get hot.

[Matt700wlw]

WOW!

3 days rest....what an unbelievable performance! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[VR]

Ross is young?

Phillips is young. And has clear skills that needed to come together.

Ross has been a nice surprise, but he's not a GREAT pickup, I'm sorry.


1.000 OPS may not qualify in many books, but it does mine.

[vaticanplum]

Crikes, we won already?

Now why can't every ballgame be like that?

[Gallen5862]

"And this one belongs to the Reds." Great job on the win Arroyo.

[harangatang]

Best game of the year for Arroyo!!!!:thumbup: :beerme:Wi...can't remember his name now. :cool:

[redsfan30]

2 hours and 2 minutes by my watch.

Why can't those games ever happen when I'm in attendance and have to drive two hours home for work the next morning?

[George Foster]

2 hours and 5 minutes....wow! Marty and 700wlw likes it!

[Matt700wlw]

That was a huge, must win for the Reds.

Bronson's first career CG shut out!

[Matt700wlw]

2 hours and 5 minutes....wow! Marty and 700wlw likes it!

I wish it was Friday ;)

[Falls City Beer]

1.000 OPS may not qualify in many books, but it does mine.

The guy's been a great surprise. But let's see if it isn't a flash in the pan before we canonize the guy.

Trash heap career years from 30-year-olds are nice, but like Larue, they could very easily go kaput next year.

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice win. Don't think it means much, but it sure does feel good to win again.

[redsfan30]

Go Rockies....get us a bit closer!

[Matt700wlw]

The Reds need to follow up with a win tomorrow, or today means very little, if anything.

[harangatang]

That was a huge, must win for the Reds.

Bronson's first career CG shut out!Bronson for MVP? Maybe I shouldn't push it that far...yet.

[vaticanplum]

The game thread over in Reds Live is one page long and contains no ridiculousness. I say we merge them again, give those guys a chance to a more active computer screen rather than just a wall.

[George Foster]

Nice win. Don't think it means much, but it sure does feel good to win again.

Agreed. I think we have to finish at least 8 games over .500 to win the WC. That will be a tall order for this team to do in 26 days.

[VR]

He's now 7th in the NL in strikeouts as well. (Harang 3rd, 4 away from the lead)

[redsfan30]

The Reds need to follow up with a win tomorrow, or today means very little, if anything.
Exactly. The season is definetly on life support, but there is still a pulse. Winning tomorrow is much, much needed with the Pirates coming into town followed by the Wild Card leaders.

There is still a chance to grab that Wild Card spot.

[Big Klu]

That is Bronson Arroyo's third complete game and first shutout of the season.

Arroyo and Aaron Harang have now combined for 7 CGs and 3 ShOs. The last time the Reds had more than seven complete games was in 2000, when they had eight. (Harnisch 3, Villone 2, Bell, Dessens, and O.Fernandez)

The last time the Reds had three shutouts in a season was in 1999. (Harnisch 2, and Parris)

[Big Klu]

The game thread over in Reds Live is one page long and contains no ridiculousness. I say we merge them again, give those guys a chance to a more active computer screen rather than just a wall.

I agree.

[George Foster]

The game thread over in Reds Live is one page long and contains no ridiculousness. I say we merge them again, give those guys a chance to a more active computer screen rather than just a wall.

Yes. We need to get those guys "back in the game."

[VR]

Agreed. I think we have to finish at least 8 games over .500 to win the WC. That will be a tall order for this team to do in 26 days.


Still realistic. It's just winning every series from here out.

Fairly easy schedule. Isn't it about the Reds turn to run off 6 straight? Seems like every WC team has had their run, except the Rojo's