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Reds Fanatic
09-06-2006, 12:43 PM
Game is on ESPN and ESPNHD today.

Starting Lineups:


Giants (69 - 70)
3rd in NL West
Reds (69 - 70)
2nd in NL Central

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. S Finley, CF .247 6 39 7
2. T Linden, RF .306 2 5 1
3. S Hillenbrand, 3B .248 8 21 0
4. M Sweeney, LF .260 5 34 0
5. R Durham, 2B .293 21 83 5
6. L Niekro, 1B .253 4 29 0
7. E Alfonzo, C .282 11 34 1
8. T de la Rosa, SS .200 0 0 0
9. J Sanchez, P - 0 0 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Freel, CF .274 7 24 35
2. R Clayton, SS .237 2 9 6
3. R Aurilia, 1B .302 21 58 1
4. A Dunn, LF .242 39 88 6
5. E Encarnacion, 3B .289 14 69 3
6. D Ross, C .275 18 45 0
7. B Phillips, 2B .291 15 66 22
8. C Denorfia, RF .231 0 4 0
9. S Kim, P 1.000 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
J Sanchez 2 0 1.37 1.32 16

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
S Kim 0 0 19.29 3.57 4

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 12:47 PM
Hopefully Kim can Woo us all...

(ba-dum-dum)

VR
09-06-2006, 12:52 PM
From the game preview...


Last season for the Rockies, Kim threw a three-hit shutout against San Francisco.


Kim has a 2.25 ERA in three career games against the Giants.

NJReds
09-06-2006, 12:54 PM
Sunny's ERA isn't bad...oh wait, that's his WHIP.

Nevermind.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 12:55 PM
Sunny's ERA isn't bad...oh wait, that's his WHIP.

Nevermind.

19.29? That was his price tag, I think.

danforsman
09-06-2006, 01:05 PM
From the game preview...

Looks like this was a targeted strike by WK.

puca
09-06-2006, 01:10 PM
I guess I'm a half-empty kind of guy. I think it is unfortunate that the Giants have seen him that many times. They probably have a decent scouting report on him by now. I figure there is a good reason he has a 5.30 career ERA.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:14 PM
For the first time this year I have become apathetic. I looked at the standings, read BPs playoff odds and can understand the numbers. I need Narron's heart to believe this team has a chance.

VR
09-06-2006, 01:18 PM
For the first time this year I have become apathetic. I looked at the standings, read BPs playoff odds and can understand the numbers. I need Narron's heart to believe this team has a chance.


You'll fit right in the game threads ;)

SF has a pathetic lineup today....(wow), and a starter who has thrown 19 innings this year, with 1 inning being his max outing.

Great game for the Reds to trounce and gain some momentum. Get on em early and stick the boot on the neck.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:25 PM
You would think with the two SP today it would be a 10-9 type game. But as I say that it will probably be a 1-0 nailbiter. That is a crap lineup the Giants are putting out there. I don't think I have heard of half of them. But I probably just jinxed us and we will lose 10-0.

CTA513
09-06-2006, 01:31 PM
Bonds is 3 for 6 off Kim with 2 homeruns and hes not starting.

:thumbup:

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:32 PM
Steve Phillips broadcasting on ESPN.

We're doomed. :D

Ever since he jumped on board the bandwagon, the Reds have sucked

CTA513
09-06-2006, 01:33 PM
You'll fit right in the game threads ;)

SF has a pathetic lineup today....(wow), and a starter who has thrown 19 innings this year, with 1 inning being his max outing.

Great game for the Reds to trounce and gain some momentum. Get on em early and stick the boot on the neck.


Sanchez: 19.2 Innings, 14 Hits, 2 HBP, 12 BB, 16 K

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:33 PM
You would think with the two SP today it would be a 10-9 type game. But as I say that it will probably be a 1-0 nailbiter. That is a crap lineup the Giants are putting out there. I don't think I have heard of half of them. But I probably just jinxed us and we will lose 10-0.

So I shouldn't hope for another 2 hour and 2 minute game? :D

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:36 PM
Game is on ATHENSi.com if you are stuck at work and want to listen.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:37 PM
Sun Woo needs to pitch well, because I like typing "Sun Woo"

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:37 PM
First pitch is to the backstop and we are off and running.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:38 PM
Boo Sun Woo...

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:38 PM
Sanchez: 19.2 Innings, 14 Hits, 2 HBP, 12 BB, 16 KWill the hackers be patient?

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:39 PM
Sun Woo is throwing heat heat heat heat.

Change speeds there Sun Woo.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:39 PM
Boo Sun Woo...that's his boy

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Sun Woo is throwing heat heat heat heat.
could be relative in his case

Tornon
09-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Kim is throwing 93..

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:41 PM
Sun Woo for closer!

:D

Tornon
09-06-2006, 01:43 PM
- Finley doubled
- Linden grounded out to second, Finley to third
- Hillenbrand sac fly to center, 1-0 Giants
- Sweeney flied to left

1-0 Giants mid 1

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:44 PM
Sunny lowered his ERA with that 1st inning

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:45 PM
Sunny lowered his ERA with that 1st inning


He also lowered that WHIP too. Gotta find the positives!:)

Reds1
09-06-2006, 01:47 PM
He looked a bit nervous the 1st batter. He also can't get his curve over early. This Giants line up is not that impressive. Hopefully Woo can get in a groove.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Bonds would make Woo poo...

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Great, the mighty Hillandbrand strikes again.

:(

Tornon
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
- Freel flied to center
- Clayton flied to left
- Aurilia grounded to third

1-0 Giants after 1

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
wow, only 9 pitches

CTA513
09-06-2006, 01:50 PM
Will the hackers be patient?

After watching the first inning I would say no.

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 01:51 PM
This is truly sad. Only 38 people on a game thread during the day. About a month ago, there were about 100 on the day game. People are actually doing work instead of following the game. I guess everyone has given up.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:52 PM
Sun is not Wooing...

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:53 PM
I keep hearing the song "Slip Slidin Away"

Team Clark
09-06-2006, 01:53 PM
Sun has "soft" movement. Not good against a team like the Giants.


So much for being a Ground Ball pitcher!!

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Durham HR'd, 2-0 Giants.

BigRedSmokey
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
I think we would have been better off with Lindy Loo Who than Sun Woo.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
According to Hal and Marty...2 people in the organization suggested picking up Sun Woo...

Tornon
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
that 1-2 pitch to Durham looked like strike 3.. homered on the next pitch

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Sun has "soft" movement. Not good against a team like the Giants.I would guess "hard" movements hurt more. :help:

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Home Run by Durham to make it 2-0 Giants. Next hitter flies to deep right. Seems like BP early in the game. As I type the next hitter flies out to Deno. Two away.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:55 PM
Home Run by Durham to make it 2-0 Giants. Next hitter flies to deep right. Seems like BP early in the game. As I type the next hitter flies out to Deno. Two away.not bad for a GB pitcher

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 01:55 PM
According to Hal and Marty...2 people in the organization suggested picking up Sun Woo...

Did they win some sort of contest that I wasn't aware of to be able to make that decision?

VR
09-06-2006, 01:56 PM
Game is on ATHENSi.com if you are stuck at work and want to listen.

link?

I can't find anything on the temporary site

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 01:56 PM
Did they win some sort of contest that I wasn't aware of to be able to make that decision?

LOLF!! :laugh:

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 01:56 PM
Looks like it's going to be a long day :(

The Comier trade is looking worse and worse. I don't think Gernamo would be this bad.

Although given the lack of options (Johnson, Michalek), I don't mind giving Woo a shot.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 01:56 PM
According to Hal and Marty...2 people in the organization suggested picking up Sun Woo...musta been Laurel and Hardy.

GAC
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
link?

I can't find anything on the temporary site

Go to

www.thegamelive.com

SteelSD
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Did they win some sort of contest that I wasn't aware of to be able to make that decision?

No. But it's a good example of why you never hire both of a MLB player's parents?

;)

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
I still say the pitcher has a lot of say over whether a batter is going to be patient.

There's the pitcher who has just walked the previous two batters, and this batter should be patient enough to let him throw some more balls.

There's the pitcher who is throwing strike after strike, and being patient is going to lead to a low-pitch 1-2-3 inning.

The point of being patient is to get a pitcher to walk you, or to get your right pitch, or to wear down the pitcher early. If the pitcher isn't going to walk you, or the right pitch is the first pitch, or the pitcher is going to retire you quickly on called strikes, it's best to go for the pitch you can hit whenever it comes.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
de la Rossa con se Cuervo lines out. End of inning.

Woo lowers his ERA to 17.00 after giving up yet another run.

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 01:58 PM
According to Hal and Marty...2 people in the organization suggested picking up Sun Woo...


Wayne: "Guys, who should we start on Wednesday"

Silence.

Wayne: "Come on guys, give me a name"

Another awkward pause, until finally someone meekly says "I heard Kim is available". Then Allen chirps in "He's cheap, let's go for it".

guttle11
09-06-2006, 01:59 PM
Steve Phillips never ceases to amaze me.

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 02:02 PM
Steve Phillips never ceases to amaze me.

What did he say?

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:02 PM
Steve Phillips never ceases to amaze me.

What'd he say now?

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:03 PM
What did he say?

"Pssst. Wayne, you should pick up Sunny Kim. He's a stud." ;)

guttle11
09-06-2006, 02:04 PM
What did he say?


Brushes off Dunn's near .400 OBP and going on about getting the runner in from third. He fails to realize that Dunn will never be that 5 tool guy all around hitter.

He can't see that Dunn produces runs in ways that don't always show up on paper.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Brushes off Dunn's near .400 OBP and going on about getting the runner in from third. He fails to realize that Dunn will never be that 5 tool guy all around hitter.

He also fails to realize he was a horrible GM

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Walk to Dunn

Followed by quick outs from EE, Ross and Phillips.

Could another shutout be on the menu today?

guttle11
09-06-2006, 02:08 PM
Walk to Dunn

Followed by quick outs from EE, Ross and Phillips.

Could another shutout be on the menu today?

Nah, they seem to be really close to pounding him. Next time through the order, they'll get to him.

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 02:08 PM
At least.....after EE swung at Ball 1 and maybe Ball 2....he tried to go the other way......and Phillips tried that to.

It did not take them almost the whole game to figure that out against another LHP.

This guy throws hard....but as you can see with the Dun AB....he can walk you, if you work him.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:09 PM
Kim's giving up some thunderbolts here in the third. Finley almost had another extra-base hit.

Then he uncorks a wild pitch.

Look, he's a control pitcher. If he doesn't have control, he's going to get whomped. Harder than he already has.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:10 PM
This guy throws hard....but as you can see with the Dun AB....he can walk you, if you work him.or get a really good pitch to hit if you're patient.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Hillenbrand reaches on a K. He's that hot!

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Linden singles with 2 outs and then gets into scoring position with a wild pitch by Woo-Tang Clan. Hillenbrand K's, but reaches to 1B on another wild pitch. Linden goes to third. You just gotta laugh.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Ross must be having a bad day.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:12 PM
...and make that two wild pitches, this one on the now-not-inning-ending strikeout. Although Ross' screwed-up technique reminds me of the beginning of that episode of the Baseball Bunch with Joe Garagiola where he teaches the kids how to block balls in the dirt.

Nice one, Ross.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:13 PM
Miracles never cease, the Giants don't score in the third.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:13 PM
Denorfia runs down another thunderbolt to end the inning.

Whew. That could have been a beating.

2-0 Giants after 2.5.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:13 PM
Sun Woo gets out of the inning...somehow.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:14 PM
...and make that two wild pitches, this one on the now-not-inning-ending strikeout. Although Ross' screwed-up technique reminds me of the beginning of that episode of the Baseball Bunch with Joe Garagiola where he teaches the kids how to block balls in the dirt.

Nice one, Ross.Defense is not his strong suit by any stretch. He seems to struggle with just about every facet of defense behind the plate.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:14 PM
2 ground balls, 2 fly balls and 5 bullets to the OF so far for Kim.

42 pitches throw through 3 IP. No ER in the 3rd drops his ERA to 15.30

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:15 PM
Kim is batting 1.000 this year

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 02:16 PM
Ross reminds me a little of Alan Knicely......anyone remember that 1-2 month experiment in 1985.

AK was tearing up AAA......if the net was on during that year....he would have been the Deno of 1985.

BUT he was beyond awful as a fielder....made Dr. Strangeglove Dick Stuart....look like Keith Hernandez.

Ross is a better hitter.....not as bad of a fielder....although he does seem to have some bad moments.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:16 PM
Superstar whiffs on three straight.

Either the camera angles are funny or all of our hitters are crowding the plate and easy prey for a jamjob.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:18 PM
Kim flies out and drops his BA to .500.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:18 PM
Defense is not his strong suit by any stretch. He seems to struggle with just about every facet of defense behind the plate.

...apparently including low-pitch-blocking techniques taught to Little Leaguers. Or child actors playing Little Leaguers on television.

Strikes Out Looking
09-06-2006, 02:19 PM
Kim should not be pitching at this point. The Reds have a bullpen full of pitchers. They could all go out and throw 1 inning and still have plenty for this weekend.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:20 PM
Giants TV guy: "You can tell Alfonzo knows Sanchez. They've hooked up a lot."

Uh, good to know.

Reds Fanatic
09-06-2006, 02:20 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 again. 2-0 Giants after 3.

CTA513
09-06-2006, 02:20 PM
It looked like Freel swung at ball 4.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:21 PM
Ross reminds me a little of Alan Knicely......anyone remember that 1-2 month experiment in 1985.

AK was tearing up AAA......if the net was on during that year....he would have been the Deno of 1985.

BUT he was beyond awful as a fielder....made Dr. Strangeglove Dick Stuart....look like Keith Hernandez.

Ross is a better hitter.....not as bad of a fielder....although he does seem to have some bad moments.


I remember Knicely. He was good for about 10 games and then reverted back to junk. Ross is a good comparison from the fielding standpoint.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:22 PM
Why is it that everyone hits our crap pitchers but we make their junk look like HOFer's???

Strikes Out Looking
09-06-2006, 02:23 PM
Why is it that everyone hits our crap pitchers but we make their junk look like HOFer's???

Because our advance scouting stinks and our hitters are brain dead.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:24 PM
Durham comes close to hitting his second homer. But it's just a loud foul.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:25 PM
Whoa! Durham strikes out on a high fastball.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:25 PM
Durham K's and doesn't reach base. 1 out.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:25 PM
Niekro pounds a line drive to left for a single.

Notice the continuing trend?

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:27 PM
Eliezer Alfonzo might have the worst plate discipline of any player in the major leagues. Kim manages to get him to chase a breaking ball out of the strike zone and whiffs him. Two outs.

Reds Fanatic
09-06-2006, 02:27 PM
Michalak is warming up.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:28 PM
Another K and the batter doesn't reach first. We are making great strides here! Mihalak is warming in the BP. That doesn't give me a good feeling either.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:28 PM
Sun Woo seems to have settled down some.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Not only is San Francisco a weak-hitting team to begin with... but Barry Bonds, Moises Alou, and Omar Vizquel are all out of the lineup today.

Kim gets noted slugger Tomas de la Rosa on a comebacker.

2-0 Giants after 3.5.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Sun Woo seems to have settled down some.

Nah. He was just facing the ass end of the lineup.

Chip R
09-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Another K and the batter doesn't reach first. We are making great strides here! Mihalak is warming in the BP. That doesn't give me a good feeling either.

Isn't it usually better to start the soft tosser then bring in the fireballer?

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
Isn't it usually better to start the soft tosser then bring in the fireballer?

Yeah, now all Wayne needs to do is acquire that fireballer and we should be all set.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
Man, when ESPN puts up the stats of the players involved in "the trade," it really makes the Reds look bad...

Tornon
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
we are just hitting atom balls today..

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Clayton at least hits the ball hard, but it's right at Linden in right. One down.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Every single hit ball is going right at people.

Looks like a long rest of the day.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Michalak is warming up.:laugh: ... must be the best the Reds have

Chip R
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Yeah, now all Wayne needs to do is acquire that fireballer and we should be all set.

I thought Kim was throwing fairly hard. Of course pretty much everyone throws harder than Michalak.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
It seems as though we are playing in Bank One Ballpark during this homestand so far.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
... and the hacking continues

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:34 PM
Rich cranks one to the warning track, where Finley runs it down. Two outs.

I didn't think we were hitting much the first time around, but there have been some solid shots right at people lately.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:35 PM
Dunn watches two strikes as the announcers wonder why he's not sitting on 1-0 fastballs.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:35 PM
Time for a Jinx...Reds are being no hit

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:35 PM
Man, when ESPN puts up the stats of the players involved in "the trade," it really makes the Reds look bad...

Not if you don't know much abourt Lopez and Kearns.

Austin: 6 HR since the trade.

Lopez: 14 RBI since the trade.

Not saying it makes the Reds look good by any stretch but I don't see how what ESPN put up on the screen makes us look that bad. It looks like a bunch of non impact players being shifted around for each other.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
It was awful nice watching Adam Dunn hit for the last month or so.

Now it's not.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
watching this team morph into a joke has been less than enjoyable.

Kc61
09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
I'll give it till the end of this game before I officially pronounce the Reds offense to be horrible. We are turning every pitcher in baseball into a Cy Young candidate. Reds' latest scoreless stretch is since the end of the first inning yesterday.

Is it Kearns and Lopez' departure? This series they didn't face Cain, they didn't face Schmidt, yet they have seven runs (at GABP) in 23 innings.

Wouldn't have thought that, down the stretch, a lack of offense would be this team's undoing.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
Dunn strikes out trying to hit a 90-mph fastball.

2-0 after 4. Maybe we'll get a hit at some point... what do you think?

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:36 PM
My computers sucks. Delete this.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:37 PM
The departure of Dunn hasn't helped.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:38 PM
The numbers of Majewski would make any trade look bad. But my point was that the numbers of the guys the Nats got don't really impress either.

Kearns and Lopez have name recognition to us. Most people in New England (where I live) would not be able to tell you who either of them are.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:38 PM
Not if you don't know much abourt Lopez and Kearns.

Austin: 6 HR since the trade.

Lopez: 14 RBI since the trade.

Not saying it makes the Reds look good by any stretch but I don't see how what ESPN put up on the screen makes us look that bad. It looks like a bunch of non impact players being shifted around for each other.

I wasn't opposed to the trade, just the numbers don't make it look to good. Lopez approaching .300, Kearns close to .250, Bray approaching a 5 ERA, and Majewski's inflated ERA of over 11....We'll just leave Clayton out of this :D

Numbers don't tell all, though.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:38 PM
Time for a Jinx...Reds are being no hit

Self-awareness of the jinx ruins the jinx.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Sanchez flies out on the first pitch.

Finley up.

Aronchis
09-06-2006, 02:39 PM
The Reds offensive decline is really simple minus the trade:
1.Griffey hasn't hit nearly as well as last year
2.Dunn has regressed from 2005, which was a mild regression from 2004
3.Freel and EE are slumping.

Bad time for a collective slump.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Nice play by Aurilia.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:40 PM
Aurilia picks another rope and makes it to the bag ahead of Steve. Two down.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:40 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:40 PM
Kim has now pitched three consecutive scoreless innings.

Please, please please get some runs!!!

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Linden lines out to Encarnacion.

Okay, that's five. Hook '(K)im anytime already.

2-0 after 4.5.

Aronchis
09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?

Considering the shots he has give up? Not a chance.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?

Woo-hoo?

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?

Indeed. Sun Woo has done a lot better than I thought he would.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?as we have seen in the past, ANYONE can have a good(or lucky) day. It would take 2-3 solid starts and showing quality stuff before I would even start to consider Kim for anything.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?

A little credit, yes. But this lineup he's facing... the Toledo Mud Hens could run a scarier crew out there.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Todd Hollandsworth is going to come up big for the Reds later in this game.

Just a feeling I have.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:43 PM
if something is too happen this may be the inning. I like the bottom of the order better than the top.

BRM
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
EE with the basehit! Woo-hoo!!

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
Time to start giving Kim a little credit here?
The last few innings, the two offenses are identical. They're both hitting balls hard, just right at people.

Kim, while he has kept them off the board for three in a row, has given up some rockets.

oneupper
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
Kim doesn't have his stuff today or he's just awful.
Lots of balls hit VERY hard.
4 GB vs. 9 FB
He's supposed to be a ground ball pitcher.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
Encarnacion watches two strikes, then BREAKS THE NO-HITTER! Ground single up the middle.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
I'm talking about the five innings he has pitched today, not the possibility of him being an 07 all star.

Face it, if Kim had given up 10 runs to this point, there would be a lot of, "I KNEW IT", post.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:44 PM
Time for a Jinx...Reds are being no hit

:cool:

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:45 PM
a hit! a hit!

BRM
09-06-2006, 02:46 PM
I give Kim credit for being pretty lucky today. He has been hit pretty hard but they've been right at people for the most part.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:46 PM
:cool:

He's also got a shutout.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:46 PM
I have never seen anyone swing through more fastballs right down the middle than David Ross.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:46 PM
Ross whiffs on a 91-mph fastball down Broadway.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:46 PM
He's also got a shutout.

Can't get runs, without hits :D

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:47 PM
I'm talking about the five innings he has pitched today, not the possibility of him being an 07 all star.

Face it, if Kim had given up 10 runs to this point, there would be a lot of, "I KNEW IT", post.sounds like it may be due to good fortune more than anything else.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:47 PM
He's also got a shutout.

you're right he does have a shutout going.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:47 PM
Can't get runs, without hits :D

Shutout, shutout, shutout.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:49 PM
Phillips works a 3-1 count as EdE swipes second.

Aronchis
09-06-2006, 02:50 PM
Damn, Phillips, take the walk man.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:51 PM
Phillips takes a huge cut at ball four. Full count.

After another couple of fouls, he walks.

Two on, one out for Denorfia.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:52 PM
It's DenO time.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:52 PM
Denorfia looked terrible in his first at-bat, so let's see a little redemption.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:52 PM
Sun Woo on deck preparing to hit a long ball :D

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
sounds like it may be due to good fortune more than anything else.

Well the Reds have lost enough games to crappy pitchers due to the crappy pitchers good fortune, so I'll take it.

As I said, I never said you have to praise the stuff Kim has thrown, just some credit for getting the job done. And by that I mean the 2 runs over 5 innings we all would of signed up for this morning.

I certainly not disagreeing that his stuff looks very hittable.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
Biggest threat of the day and it's Chris Denorfia that comes to the plate.

That's just the way things have gone recently.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
Sun Woo taken down for Norris Hopper.

BRM
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
That was bad.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
Chris swings right through the first pitch, then pops up the second one.

Two out. Two pretty bad at-bats for Deno.

Norris Hopper will come up and pinch-hit for Kim. Good move.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:53 PM
When is Griffey going to quit so Denorfia can play everyday?

TheBigLebowski
09-06-2006, 02:54 PM
What happened?

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:54 PM
When is Griffey going to quit so Denorfia can play everyday?

If Griffey gives a damn, that's what he'll do......

CTA513
09-06-2006, 02:54 PM
Denorfia looking like an all-star at the plate today.

TheBigLebowski
09-06-2006, 02:54 PM
Gotta say...I have been extremely disappointed in what I've seen from Deno. Not impressed in the least.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
The pitcher has thrown 3 balls so far and it is a 1-2 count.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Ryan Franklin in the 'pen for the Reds.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Nice Norris

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Denorfia looking like an all-star at the plate today.

Sadly, that's been the rule rather than the exception this season for Chris.

HEEYYY

A RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
That was god awful......and some hate Holly so much....and it's only, IMO...beacuse he is older.

That AB.......could Holly have done any worse?

Can this ballpark......suck any more.....beacuse that was GAB AB......swinging for the fences when you just need a hit.
He should have looked at driving the ball the other way....beacuse he was being pitched at....AWAY.

Is anyone talking to Denorfia right now? Or any other hitter who is trying to hit like this.

Reds Fanatic
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Hopper drives in a run. 2-1 Giants.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
No. 30 comes through.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Come on Freel! Time to step it up.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Hopper delivers! RBI single and the Reds are on the board!

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Hopper Hopper, the Shut out stopper.

Aronchis
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Gotta say...I have been extremely disappointed in what I've seen from Deno. Not impressed in the least.

Deno is patient guy. However, he has been pressing to hit with power IMO, that isn't what he should be doing. Taking pitches, even good pitches, setting up for flares and walks is.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
I guess we have a happy Hopper

Kc61
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Tomorrow, instead of an off day, Norris Hopper should conduct a seminar for the Reds entitled "hitting singles."

cumberlandreds
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Gotta say...I have been extremely disappointed in what I've seen from Deno. Not impressed in the least.

I hope I'm wrong but Denorfia looks like the classic AAAA player.

Doc. Scott
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Hopper late on two 89-mph high fastballs, but then punches a hit to left! 2-1 Reds on the clutch knock.

TheBigLebowski
09-06-2006, 02:57 PM
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/d/dennis_hopper.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/d/dennis_hopper.html&h=260&w=176&sz=12&hl=en&start=20&tbnid=mDWi2h96mqS8MM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=76&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522dennis%2Bhopper%2522%26svnum%3D1 0%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DG

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Hopper Hopper, the Shut out stopper.

He's still got the lead.

Chip R
09-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Hopper may have earned himself a start or two with that hit.

NJReds
09-06-2006, 02:57 PM
I guess we have a happy Hopper

Griffey should quit so Hopper can play everyday.

Cedric
09-06-2006, 02:58 PM
Denorfia is much better than this. He's just pressing and forcing the issue and his approach is way off.

I think it'll come to him but I've seen some plaeyrs never be able to handle the pressure. It's part of the business.

Red Leader
09-06-2006, 02:59 PM
He's still got the lead.

Indeed he does. He still has the lead and in place for teh win!!

GAC
09-06-2006, 02:59 PM
dbl steal!!!

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Ryan Freel is so bad with runners on base.

But at least they scratched across a run.

GAC
09-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Freel Ks on a bad pitch!

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Freel swings through ball four for the strikeout.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Nice call by Narron there.

Should be based loaded right now. Freel just swings at everything.

He is his own worst enemy in the Freel is a utility player argument.

Aronchis
09-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Ryan Freel is so bad with runners on base.

But at least they scratched across a run.

Freel is bad in about any situation right now.

GAC
09-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Chat is open :beerme:

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Phillips is still to me.....Reese of 1999.

Until he shows more patience....this guy's BA is going to drop and he will start to become a younger version of Royce Clayton. At least he took the walk that time.

This SF pitcher....any other team not named KC or CIN....he would have been pounded for at least 3-4 runs by now. Easy for me to say? More like frustration talking maybe.


I think this is the team.....WK and maybe JN wants........steals and hits, with a homer here and there.
If that is the case.....he has more trading to do for contact hitters.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:02 PM
what plum will Narron pick from the pen? Could it be the studly and buffed "Juice" Franklin?

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:03 PM
Phillips is still to me.....Reese of 1999.
Phillips has a lot more power than Pokey ever dreamed of.

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:04 PM
what plum will Narron pick from the pen? Could it be the studly and buffed "Juice" Franklin?

Yes.

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 03:04 PM
When Dunn K's....i can deal with it...more than in 2002.

When Freel K's.....it does more than hurt my feelings.....it pisses me off to no end.

No excuse for this guy to K as much as he does.......especially on a pitch that was going outside to begin with....so even if it was a fastball...it was an outside fastabll. IF the ump wants to call that a called strike on you......what can you do...odds though was that was not going to happen.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:05 PM
When Freel K's.....it does more than hurt my feelings.....it pisses me off to no end.If you're going to K a bunch you darn well better be able to hit a long way when you do connect.

Kc61
09-06-2006, 03:06 PM
Freel is bad in about any situation right now.

At $1.7 million next year, I think Freel is going to be around. He is a good ballplayer, but his hitting does tend to go downhill over the course of a season.

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:07 PM
Franklin serves up a bomb to Durham on an 0-2 pitch.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 03:07 PM
Splendid.

:bang:

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
Thank you Mr Franklin, you're services are appreciated.

OldXOhio
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
If MLB Gamecast is any indication of how far that thing just went, I'm guessing it landed in someone's boat?

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
Nice catch by Freel to end the inning.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
I'd like to see the Reds batting average against with two strikes and two outs.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:08 PM
It went a long way.

guttle11
09-06-2006, 03:09 PM
There's better options than Franklin in the bullpen, Jerry.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:09 PM
At least nobody was on base. They are the worst kind to hit and the best kind to give up.

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:09 PM
There's better options than Franklin in the bullpen, Jerry.

Jerry disagrees.

CTA513
09-06-2006, 03:10 PM
Franklin gives up another run in a close game.

:all_cohol

Tony Cloninger
09-06-2006, 03:11 PM
I think JN missed Franklin so much.....he had to put him back out there to feel better.

The guy serves up the long ball in Milton 2005 like fashion. Do not pitch him in this ballpark at all costs.

He is not very smart and good with command to boot based on that 0-2 pitch.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 03:11 PM
Today's attendance: 26 people

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:11 PM
Today's attendance: 26 people

The place does look empty.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:12 PM
Today's attendance: 26 people

There must have been a few in the restroom when I did my count.

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 03:12 PM
There's not much in the pen for the sixth-inning guy and Narron still manages according to roles.

CrackerJack
09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
I live in Newport near the river and a baseball just landed in my front yard!?

Is Ryan Franklin pitching by chance?

BRM
09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
Royce Clayton is not very good.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
Steve Stone: One of the reasons Clayton has been able to find employment, he can really field. About as sure handed as they come.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
The place does look empty.

There might be 30 if they had dollar weenies.

Kc61
09-06-2006, 03:14 PM
There's not much in the pen for the sixth-inning guy and Narron still manages according to roles.


Off day tomorrow. Rather important game. Pitcher not coming up to bat soon.

Would have tried Coffey for two innings. But Franklin only gave up one run. If the team could score it wouldn't be that big a deal.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:14 PM
There might be 30 if they had dollar weenies.

Yeah, 30,000.

OldXOhio
09-06-2006, 03:15 PM
I live in Newport near the river and a baseball just landed in my front yard!?

Is Ryan Franklin pitching by chance?

Thing went all the way to Rhode Island??? Cool!!!

BCubb2003
09-06-2006, 03:16 PM
dollar weenies.

Good name for a band.

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 03:16 PM
Brushes off Dunn's near .400 OBP and going on about getting the runner in from third. He fails to realize that Dunn will never be that 5 tool guy all around hitter.

He can't see that Dunn produces runs in ways that don't always show up on paper.

Ok, thanks for filling me in.

CTA513
09-06-2006, 03:16 PM
But Franklin only gave up one run. If the team could score it wouldn't be that big a deal.

Franklin gave up a huge 1 run.

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 03:17 PM
For anyone not watching the ESPN broadcast, they are talking about Steve Stone's relationship with the Giant announcers. Apparently Dwayne Kiper has one career HR, off, you guessed it.

Stone's reply: Yes, but he was robbed at the wall a good number of times.

Pretty funny, actually.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:17 PM
Franklin has always had "gopherballitis", even while pitching in a nice park like Safeco.

guttle11
09-06-2006, 03:17 PM
This is pathetic. They're all trying to hit US Bank Arena.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Steve Stone: One of the reasons Clayton has been able to find employment, he can really field. About as sure handed as they come.conventional wisdom ... nice

Kc61
09-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Franklin gave up a huge 1 run.

Only huge because Reds are facing Cy Young. Again.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Finally Adam Dunn hits a ball hard somewhere.

WMR
09-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Franklin gave up a huge 1 run.

Immediately gifting back a run, on an 0-2 count no less, when your team JUST managed to get their FIRST run, can be incredibly deflating to an offense that is already slumping horribly.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Finally Adam Dunn hits a ball hard somewhere.a single ... sigh

REDREAD
09-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Ross reminds me a little of Alan Knicely......anyone remember that 1-2 month experiment in 1985.

AK was tearing up AAA......if the net was on during that year....he would have been the Deno of 1985.

BUT he was beyond awful as a fielder....made Dr. Strangeglove Dick Stuart....look like Keith Hernandez.

Ross is a better hitter.....not as bad of a fielder....although he does seem to have some bad moments.

Yeah, I remember Knicely. I thought the guy was going to be our savior. Knicely taught me that MLEs aren't always accurate. (Good minor league numbers don't necessarily mean good ML numbers). IIRC, Knicely didn't hit that well either. I think he was tried briefly at 1b too (might be remembering wrong).

guttle11
09-06-2006, 03:20 PM
Hey, let's take out our most productive hitter in a close game.

That Jerry, he's a thinker...

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:20 PM
a single ... sigh
Gotta start somewhere.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:20 PM
maybe the giants will bring in their version of Franklin, oh, they don't have one.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:21 PM
Hey, let's take out our most productive hitter in a close game.??

Cedric
09-06-2006, 03:21 PM
Narron took Dunn out for lack of hustle. You could tell.

Weirder than hell.

Weird rhyme.

Matt700wlw
09-06-2006, 03:21 PM
He really took Adam out?

Marty said Dunn is at second on the single.


Now I'm confused.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:22 PM
Hey, let's take out our most productive hitter in a close game.

That Jerry, he's a thinker...
Dunn's still in.

Reds Fanatic
09-06-2006, 03:22 PM
EE singles. 1st and 2nd.

guttle11
09-06-2006, 03:22 PM
He really took Adam out?

Marty said Dunn is at second on the single.


Now I'm confused.

I believe so.

Yet, I can't believe why.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:22 PM
Two more runners left on.

Who Dey.

redsfan30
09-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Dunn's still in, he just walked in the dugout during the pitching change. Happens all the time, but is rarely caught on camera.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:23 PM
PH for Ross here.

guttle11
09-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Dunn's still in.

Oh. He walked into the dugout and the announcers said they were pinch running for him.

My mistake.

CTA513
09-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Did the Reds not get the memo about how you dont have to swing at the first pitch all the time?

Ltlabner
09-06-2006, 03:24 PM
Not that it has anything to do with anything, but the Giants TV guys spent a lot of the game on Monday checking out the pretty girls from the booth with binoculars. I sat in the Club Home seats behind home plate and could clearly see into their booth. Between most every inning they were up their pointing them out and then using the binocs.

Kinda creepy after a while.

flyer85
09-06-2006, 03:25 PM
Maybe Franklin can pitch a 2nd inning ... yeah