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RedLegSuperStar
10-01-2006, 11:49 AM
Not a typo.. Edwin is playing 1st

Chris Denorfia CF
Juan Castro 3B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Dunn LF
David Ross C
Brendan Harris 2B
Ray Olmedo SS
Dewayne Wise RF
Matt Belisle P

Per Marc

pahster
10-01-2006, 11:52 AM
Ugh... Foolishness.

captainmorgan07
10-01-2006, 11:54 AM
that's go get .500

RFS62
10-01-2006, 12:05 PM
Shades of Tony Perez

Kc61
10-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Castro has played first. If this is the lineup, just would have let Castro play first and keep EE at third. Don't see the point of messing around for one game.

Joseph
10-01-2006, 12:40 PM
Looks like some foreshadowing possibly.

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 12:43 PM
Looks like some foreshadowing possibly.

I'm fine with EdE at first, but it raises the question: where are they going to find a third baseman as rangy and as skilled as EdE to replace him?

RedLegSuperStar
10-01-2006, 12:49 PM
I'm fine with EdE at first, but it raises the question: where are they going to find a third baseman as rangy and as skilled as EdE to replace him?

Hrmm.. Sign Hatteberg, Sign Castro.. When we have Votto and Edwin.

Why not lock up Aurilia and just trade Edwin and Votto.. we'll work on being the Senior Citizen Club of the "Senior Circuit"

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 12:59 PM
Hrmm.. Sign Hatteberg, Sign Castro.. When we have Votto and Edwin.

Why not lock up Aurilia and just trade Edwin and Votto.. we'll work on being the Senior Citizen Club of the "Senior Circuit"

Well, if they have designs on pulling the same crap next year with Edwin as they did this year, then I'd much rather they trade him for pitching; what the hell's the point in having Edwin on the roster if he's only going to get a half-season's ABs sitting behind Castro and Rich?

Kc61
10-01-2006, 01:20 PM
Well, if they have designs on pulling the same crap next year with Edwin as they did this year, then I'd much rather they trade him for pitching; what the hell's the point in having Edwin on the roster if he's only going to get a half-season's ABs sitting behind Castro and Rich?

More likely, they may want EE to play first against lefties, when Hatteberg sits. He would stay at third, except against lefties. Maybe Brendan Harris could play third in those situations.

I don't think they intend to sit EE next year, there is absolutely no sign of that.

I just question why they are doing this for one game at the end of the season. Don't know what that accomplishes.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 01:25 PM
Not a typo.. Edwin is playing 1st

Chris Denorfia CF
Juan Castro 3B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Dunn LF
David Ross C
Brendan Harris 2B
Ray Olmedo SS
Dewayne Wise RF
Matt Belisle P

Per Marc

Things that make you go...."hmmmmmmmm"

reds44
10-01-2006, 01:26 PM
Umm why?

You won't find a 3rd baseman with Edwin's skills.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2006, 01:28 PM
The Reds are dumber than I thought if they permanently move Encarnacion to 1B next year. It's hard to find a 3B with as much range and a great arm like EdE has, plus the Reds have the best 1B prospect in the minors who is ready to take over at first base. That would make this move all the more puzzling.

Caveat Emperor
10-01-2006, 01:52 PM
Umm why?

You won't find a 3rd baseman with Edwin's skills.

I heard that dude A-Rod is pretty good, but I got that from the same place Lance McAllister gets his inside info from, so take it with a grain of salt.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 01:53 PM
I heard that dude A-Rod is pretty good, but I got that from the same place Lance McAllister gets his inside info from, so take it with a grain of salt.

That's an interesting thought....

pahster
10-01-2006, 02:02 PM
I heard that dude A-Rod is pretty good, but I got that from the same place Lance McAllister gets his inside info from, so take it with a grain of salt.

Were that to happen (and I don't think it would), I'd think he'd move back to SS.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:04 PM
Were that to happen....I wouldn't believe it

traderumor
10-01-2006, 02:20 PM
Maybe they let the guys pick where they wanted to play today like my coach did once in little league.

reds44
10-01-2006, 02:21 PM
It's a sad day. No more Reds for a LONG time.

:(

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:22 PM
It's a sad day. No more Reds for a LONG time.

:(

It'll be here before we know it.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2006, 02:22 PM
I hate today. No more Reds baseball until April the 2nd. That's wayyyyyy too long.

KittyDuran
10-01-2006, 02:24 PM
I hate today. No more Reds baseball until April the 2nd. That's wayyyyyy too long.Technically, you're off by about a month with Spring Training... :)

reds44
10-01-2006, 02:30 PM
It'll be here before we know it.

Then it will be gone before we know it.

lol

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:31 PM
Then it will be gone before we know it.

lol

Then I'll be old before I know it :)

reds44
10-01-2006, 02:33 PM
As for Edwin playing 1st base........


Last game of the year, Brent. Can't hold anything back now!

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:33 PM
It's been a roller coaster season, but overall it's been fun.

It's gone by pretty fast, and the team, whatever the reason, was in contention all year.

reds44
10-01-2006, 02:34 PM
Then I'll be old before I know it :)
You already are old.

:evil:

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:34 PM
You already are old.

:evil:

Not yet :D

I'm working on it.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2006, 02:37 PM
The Astros trail the Braves 1-0 in the 2nd. Astros had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and failed to score.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:37 PM
Steve was getting choked up...:(

I feel bad for the guy...he's a good guy.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:48 PM
Lively thread...

:)

TeamBoone
10-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Steve was getting choked up...:(

I feel bad for the guy...he's a good guy.

Marty choked him up big time. Had me choked up too. I, for one, will miss him a lot.

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:01 PM
Wise better not be in this organization next year.
Same goes with Clayton.

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Steve was getting choked up...:(

I feel bad for the guy...he's a good guy.

If only the Reds could be so cutthroat with people they actually NEED to get rid of.

But they busy themselves with shuffling out the door a guy who was doing his job quite well, from where I'm sitting.

I swear, the priorities of this franchise are mind-numbing sometimes.

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Wise better not be in this organization next year.
Same goes with Clayton.

Hey, Wayne turned over a ton of stones for those two gems.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:18 PM
Sanchez 2-2

Cabrera 0-2


I think the batting title is won...

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:25 PM
The Krivster in the booth...

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:31 PM
Krivsky would like to keep Phillips at 2nd....but the option is there to move him to short...

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:32 PM
Krivsky would like to keep Phillips at 2nd....but the option is there to move him to short...
Keep us updated on anything else he says.

thanks

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:33 PM
Homer Bailey:

Spring Training will say a lot, but he values AAA for development, but if all goes well, we'll see him in the big leagues.

AAA makes the most sense for him, but ST could change that...

Chip R
10-01-2006, 03:34 PM
If only the Reds could be so cutthroat with people they actually NEED to get rid of.

But they busy themselves with shuffling out the door a guy who was doing his job quite well, from where I'm sitting.

I swear, the priorities of this franchise are mind-numbing sometimes.

:)

I don't disagree but Steve was in the last year of his deal. If certain players were in the last year of their deals, they would be (will be) gone as well.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:36 PM
Marty: "Will Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey, Jr. be here next year?"

Krivsky passes on the question...

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:36 PM
:)

I don't disagree but Steve was in the last year of his deal. If certain players were in the last year of their deals, they would be (will be) gone as well.

You mean like Juan Castro? ;)

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:37 PM
The big question wasn't asked.....Jerry Narron

(not that Wayne wouldn't tap dance around that one either :))

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:39 PM
Marty: "Will Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey, Jr. be here next year?"

Krivsky passes on the question...
I wouldn't mind seeing them gone.

It would free up a ton of salary, and you could get something tasty for Dunn.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:40 PM
Somebody needs to score...

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:40 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing them gone.

It would free up a ton of salary, and you could get something tasty for Dunn.

pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching pitching

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:40 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing them gone.

It would free up a ton of salary, and you could get something tasty for Dunn.

I used to think that way about Dunn. But I don't trust this FO to get value for Dunn. Not at all.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:41 PM
Cardinals losing 4-0 in the 1st.

Astros being dumbfounded by John Smoltz

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:41 PM
I used to think that way about Dunn. But I don't trust this FO to get value for Dunn. Not at all.

He may not have the value that some of us thinks he should, either...

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:42 PM
He may not have the value that some of us thinks he should, either...

He does with certain GMs, and that's all that really matters.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:43 PM
He does with certain GMs, and that's all that really matters.

I'm listening....:)

Who wants him and what will they give the Reds?

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:43 PM
He does with certain GMs, and that's all that really matters.
Yep. It only takes one.

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:43 PM
When is batting Juan Castro 2nd ever a good idea?

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 03:44 PM
When is batting Juan Castro 2nd ever a good idea?

In a meaningless game that nobody on the field wants to play :)

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 03:45 PM
I'm listening....:)

Who wants him and what will they give the Reds?

I'm sure he has real value with half of MLB GMs; only short-sighted people can't see his real worth to a franchise. What will they give? How the heck should I know?

reds44
10-01-2006, 03:45 PM
Check this out.


4/3/06:
Tony Womack 2B
Felipe Lopez SS
Ken Griffey Jr CF
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Austin Kearns RF
Javier Valentin C
Aaron Harang P

10/1/06:
Chris Denorfia CF
Juan Castro 3B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Dunn LF
David Ross C
Brendan Harris 2B
Ray Olmedo SS
Dewayne Wise RF
Matt Belisle P

4/3/06
Belisle
Burns
Coffey
Hammond
Mercker
Weathers
White

10/1/06:
Bray
Coffey
Cormier
Franklin
Majewski
Schoeneweis
Weathers

Gallen5862
10-01-2006, 04:05 PM
How is the Reds game going? How did the crazy lineup do?

captainmorgan07
10-01-2006, 04:06 PM
How is the Reds game going? How did the crazy lineup do?
0 runs so far

Gallen5862
10-01-2006, 04:08 PM
Thanks Captain.

redsrule2500
10-01-2006, 04:21 PM
Check this out.


4/3/06:
Tony Womack 2B
Felipe Lopez SS
Ken Griffey Jr CF
Adam Dunn LF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Austin Kearns RF
Javier Valentin C
Aaron Harang P

10/1/06:
Chris Denorfia CF
Juan Castro 3B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Dunn LF
David Ross C
Brendan Harris 2B
Ray Olmedo SS
Dewayne Wise RF
Matt Belisle P

4/3/06
Belisle
Burns
Coffey
Hammond
Mercker
Weathers
White

10/1/06:
Bray
Coffey
Cormier
Franklin
Majewski
Schoeneweis
Weathers


I'd like to believe they aren't playing their best...

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:31 PM
There's your run....1-0 Pirates

RedLegSuperStar
10-01-2006, 04:32 PM
that maybe the game there.. 1-0 Pirates

redsrule2500
10-01-2006, 04:32 PM
damnit

harangatang
10-01-2006, 04:33 PM
And FCB rejoices because he can dog the Reds some more.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:37 PM
There's 1

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:37 PM
There's an error....

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:37 PM
Adam Dunn's final at bat as a Red?

Hmmmmm....

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:39 PM
There's 2

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:41 PM
Marty says "key people chose not to play in this game"

Hmmm....

Caseyfan21
10-01-2006, 04:42 PM
Marty says "key people chose not to play in this game"

Hmmm....

Interesting and nice to see him at least give Dunn some credit.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:42 PM
Astros lost....Cardinals "won" the NL Central

Tornon
10-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Phillips & Aurilia?

Caseyfan21
10-01-2006, 04:44 PM
Phillips in to run now. Probably got a day off since the Reds were out of it and he's been hurting.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 04:48 PM
That's it.

6 consecutive losing seasons

Caseyfan21
10-01-2006, 04:48 PM
Valentin K's, season over.

It's been a fun ride, should be interesting to see how the winter plays out with WayneK getting his first full winter.

Caseyfan21
10-01-2006, 04:49 PM
It was nice to hear Steve and Marty talking earlier in the inning and Steve thanking Marty for the past few years. It should be interesting to hear Steve sign off for the last time.

reds44
10-01-2006, 04:50 PM
That's it.

6 consecutive losing seasons
Bah.

SteelSD
10-01-2006, 04:51 PM
And FCB rejoices because he can dog the Reds some more.

Was that really necessary?

harangatang
10-01-2006, 04:57 PM
Was that really necessary? I speak the truth.

Mutaman
10-01-2006, 05:03 PM
I felt in the beginning of the season that if they finished .500, I'd be satisfied. I am not satisfied.

BoydsOfSummer
10-01-2006, 05:07 PM
The end of the Reds season always makes me sad. No matter the record.

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 05:08 PM
This game is a true metaphor for the Reds' season: and then there were none.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 05:16 PM
And FCB rejoices because he can dog the Reds some more.

That is not fair. There is plenty of room for criticism of the team on this board; that's one of its primary purposes (and if we're honest with ourselves, we should ALL be criticizing them in some aspect or another). Many people present legitimate criticisms and I don't think it's right to single someone out like that.

I'm not usually interested in getting involved in infighting but that was direct and unnecessary in my opinion. Nobody on this board rejoices when the Reds lose.

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 05:22 PM
I'm not usually interested in getting involved in infighting but that was direct and unnecessary in my opinion. Nobody on this board rejoices when the Reds lose.

Nope, harang's right. I've gone off the grid, and I'll be mailing Krivsky a turd-bomb in tomorrow's mail.

I'm building a statue of Albert Pujols out of mashed potatoes, and drinking chicken blood to cast a spell on Freel.

I've had it. I've gone Reds-Satanic.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Well, Steve just made me cry with his signoff.

I will miss him. I really, really liked him.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 05:26 PM
Well, Steve just made me cry with his signoff.

I will miss him. I really, really liked him.

I got a little lump in my throat...how macho :)

Chip R
10-01-2006, 05:27 PM
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.


The Green Fields of the Mind - A. Bartlett Giamatti

RollyInRaleigh
10-01-2006, 05:30 PM
Glad to see Belisle throw six shutout innings. Could definitely be a player in the rotation for next season. I like his stuff. Would love to see him make some big gains next season.

harangatang
10-01-2006, 05:33 PM
Glad to see Belisle throw six shutout innings. Could definitely be a player in the rotation for next season. I like his stuff. Would love to see him make some big gains next season.I didn't watch the game (Obviously) but Belisle looked like he kept his pitch count down today. It would be good to see someone like him step up but we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully he's not fool's gold.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 05:39 PM
Detroit tied with KC in the ninth and Minnesota leading the sox in the seventh. If they both win, who takes the division? Their records would be identical.

I had dreams about the Minnesota Twins all last night. Very strange.

Chip R
10-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Detroit tied with KC in the ninth and Minnesota leading the sox in the seventh. If they both win, who takes the division? Their records would be identical.

I had dreams about the Minnesota Twins all last night. Very strange.

Whoever won the head to head series wins the division. Happened to StL and HOU a few years ago.

Wth Wayne at the helm, your dreams may be premonitions.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 05:54 PM
Whoever won the head to head series wins the division. Happened to StL and HOU a few years ago.

Would be the Tigers then. So I am rooting for the Tigers to lose. I don't want the Yankees to face the Twins in a five-game series. I also would like to see the Twins-Yankees in a seven-game ALCS. For some reason I think it would be some bang-up baseball in seven.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:24 PM
KC/Detroit still tied in the twelfth and I'm not going to get anything done until it's over. I have to hand it to Kansas City, they're playing hard at the end of the season and it seems they seem to pop up when important things are on the line, even if they aren't directly affected by it.

Twins did end up beating the Sox 5-1. Quite an accomplished latter part of the season for them.

redsfanmia
10-01-2006, 06:33 PM
Well, Steve just made me cry with his signoff.

I will miss him. I really, really liked him.

I agree, it took a few months to get to like him but I will miss him. He seems like a really nice, likable, decent man. Good luck Steve.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:38 PM
KC have taken a 10-8 lead. now bottom of the twelfth; Detroit has clearly lost interest in winning as they have just put in Neifi Perez to pinch hit.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:39 PM
Shockingly, Neifi grounds out.

Jimmy Gobble, my new favorite-named player, is pitching for the Royals.

Ron Madden
10-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Marty choked him up big time. Had me choked up too. I, for one, will miss him a lot.

I'll miss Steve too. I liked him from the begining and think he has done a fine job.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Padres leading Arizona 6-1 in the fourth. Dodgers and San Francisco tied in the sixth at 3-3.

Chip R
10-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Casey at the bat.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Tigers lose to Kansas City!

Wow! Minnesota has won the Central!

Falls City Beer
10-01-2006, 06:47 PM
That sucks for Tigers. I was pulling for 'em.

Ah well. At least they made it. I hope they win, but they won't.

I hope the Padres win the NL. I think they might.

Ron Madden
10-01-2006, 06:48 PM
Not a typo.. Edwin is playing 1st

Chris Denorfia CF
Juan Castro 3B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Dunn LF
David Ross C
Brendan Harris 2B
Ray Olmedo SS
Dewayne Wise RF
Matt Belisle P

Per Marc

This is the 140th diferent Reds lineup this season.

Only play 162 games. ;)

Chip R
10-01-2006, 06:49 PM
There is no joy in Motown
Mighty Casey has grounded out

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 06:55 PM
I hope the Padres win the NL. I think they might.

I think they will too.

So now I have to twist my hands to see who wins the West before starting predictions. If I understand correctly, whoever wins will host St. Louis Tuesday at 4 pm and the wild card will go to New York for a 4 pm Wednesday game. What we definitely know is:

The Yankees will host Detroit Tuesday at 8 pm (Wang pitching for the Yanks)
The Twins will host the A's Tuesday at 1 pm

Chip R
10-01-2006, 07:01 PM
Jimmy Gobble, my new favorite-named player, is pitching for the Royals.


Gobbles!

http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/the/wallpaper/timmy_and_gobbles-800x600.jpg

jnwohio
10-01-2006, 07:10 PM
This game is a true metaphor for the Reds' season: and then there were none.


Very good. I agree.

Two out no one on base and they find a way to let a run home, starting with an infield hit and including a passed ball. All that was mnissing was an error.

Have to admit I had moved on to other things before then. I figured no matter who won, it was going to be a bomb.....

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 08:08 PM
Dodgers won 4-3 over San Francisco. If the Padres also win (they are 7-4 over Arizona in the ninth), the Padres will be the NL West champions due to head-to-head matchups. Some real closeness these last few days...I wonder how often it has happened that two teams have the same record in in two different divisions.

Which means that if the Padres pull it off, the Dodgers will go to Shea (that is kind of cool), and the Cards will go to San Diego.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 08:18 PM
wow, back-to-back homers for the D'backs -- Chad Tracy and Conor Jackson -- in the bottom of the ninth, one out. Now 7-6.

redsfanmia
10-01-2006, 08:22 PM
There is no joy in Motown
Mighty Casey has grounded out

I am curious what Detriots record was since they acquired Casey? I hate to admit this but I am rooting against them because of him.

vaticanplum
10-01-2006, 08:28 PM
Alberto Callaspo grounds out, Padrinos win. Got scary there for a minute for them...both those homers were off of Hoffman.

harangatang
10-01-2006, 10:58 PM
Jimmy Gobble, my new favorite-named player, is pitching for the Royals.It's Jimmy Gobble trivia time. When Gobble started for the Royals in 2004 he represented the 4th left hander in the rotation. When he started the 4th game of the season it was the first time in Major League history that 4 left handers had started in consecutive order to start the season.

Ron Madden
10-02-2006, 03:01 AM
I have enjoyed this year, more than any season since 1999.

This winter should be interesting with so many decisions to be made.

Let's hope moves are not made just for the sake of doing something. No doubt a wise move here or there would help.

One or two bad moves could hurt the club for years to come.

lollipopcurve
10-02-2006, 05:36 PM
Glad to see Belisle throw six shutout innings. Could definitely be a player in the rotation for next season. I like his stuff. Would love to see him make some big gains next season.

Definitely agree. I like the good fastball with hard run on it. If he keeps it down, he can be effective. It was interesting to see him relying so heavily on one pitch, and getting good results -- that big breaking curve was nowhere to be seen. He remains an interesting guy, if only for his live fastball and relatively fresh arm.