4/08/07 vs. Pirates

[Wheelhouse]

Pirates
1. Sanchez, 2B
2. Wilson, SS
3. Bay, LF
4. LaRoche, 1B
5. Paulino, C
6. Nady, CF
7. Eldred, RF
8. Bautista, 3B
9. Duke, P

Reds
1. Freel, CF
2. Phillips, 2B
3. Dunn, LF
4. Encarnacion, 3B
5. Griffey Jr., RF
6. Conine, 1B
7. Gonzalez, SS
8. Ross, C
9. Milton, P

No word on roster move for Milton yet.

[membengal]

The shocking thing is no Sunday special line-up.

Props to Narron for that.

[11larkin11]

Dang, just about to post this.

Bad news for the Reds. Steady Freddy is back.

Wasn't Burton put on the DL to make room for Milton?

[LawFive]

The shocking thing is no Sunday special line-up.

Props to Narron for that.

Beat me to it. I was expecting to see Hamilton RF (good), Castro 3B (bleh) and Moeller C (Yuck!)

All the regulars are in. And on a travel day, too!

[captainmorgan07]

wat a terrible outfield for the buco's today eldred in right should be a disaster he's a 1st basemen not a right fielder

[LawFive]

No word on roster move for Milton yet.

the other board is saying it's Burton to the DL (hammy)

[Tom Servo]

So...over/under on # of HR's given up by Milton?

[11larkin11]

I think Narron put in the regular lineup due to the fact that Milton is pitching and he knows he's gonna need a LOT of offense today.

Shouldnt have pitched Saarloos yesterday. He's gonna need him today.

[WMR]

Beat me to it. I was expecting to see Hamilton RF (good), Castro 3B (bleh) and Moeller C (Yuck!)

All the regulars are in. And on a travel day, too!

C'mon now Castro is well-deserving of a yuck as well. :barf:

[Matt700wlw]

Hamilton will get his start soon......

[11larkin11]

Any chance Castro loses his spot to Keppinger when he gets back?

Just wishful thinking here.

[Tom Servo]

Any chance Castro loses his spot to Keppinger when he gets back?

Just wishful thinking here.
Considering we gave Juan a 2 year deal right before the offseason, I dobut it. :(

[jesusfan]

That line-up scares me with Milton on the hill....

[Matt700wlw]

So...over/under on # of HR's given up by Milton?

3

:)

[NJReds]

Over/under on which inning Santos starts getting loose?

[pahster]

Over/under on which inning Santos starts getting loose?

2nd.

[wheels]

What time is first pitch today?

[PuffyPig]

I think Narron put in the regular lineup due to the fact that Milton is pitching and he knows he's gonna need a LOT of offense today.

Shouldnt have pitched Saarloos yesterday. He's gonna need him today.

It's nice to see you have confidence in Milton to pitch a good game.

After all, if Saarloos pitches, we must have a lead in the 8th inning, as that's his role.:laugh:

[KronoRed]

Great lineup, till you reach the 9 spot.

[Matt700wlw]

For the record, as a Red, Milton is 13-26, 60 innings, 69 Home Runs, and an almost 6 ERA.

We excited yet?

[Tom Servo]

Today the wheels start turning on the Eric Milton Farewell Tour. :beerme:

[WMR]

For the record, as a Red, Milton is 13-26, 60 innings, 69 Home Runs, and an almost 6 ERA.

We excited yet?

http://sts.synflood.de/dump/fun/normal_teh-suck.jpg

[Matt700wlw]

...And against the Pirates, I think his ERA is near 7!

[KronoRed]

He'll throw a shutout today.

[WMR]

He'll throw a shutout today.

Hey Krono, I got a buddy who lives in Vegas, how much you want me to have him lay down on that for ya? :laugh:

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder how that "back injury" will handle the cold weather?

[KronoRed]

Hey Krono, I got a buddy who lives in Vegas, how much you want me to have him lay down on that for ya? :laugh:

Bet the house baby :cool:

[DoogMinAmo]

I would think Narron is giving Milty the greatest chance to succeed. Full lineup, probably will pull him after 5. Fluff up his stats, then send him packing before Burton's DL stint is up.

Maybe the Nationals could be interested? :devil:

[jfar23]

For the record, as a Red, Milton is 13-26, 60 innings, 69 Home Runs, and an almost 6 ERA.

We excited yet?http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2509/donotwantqo1.jpg

Jack Wilson a permanent fixture in the two hole? :laugh:

[RBA]

DIRECTV MLB EXTRA INNINGS HIGH DEFINITION: CH 731 ALSO 738 FOR THOSE WITHOUT HD.

[Wheelhouse]

Anyone know if Extra Innings on cable will have any HD games?

[redsgabp]

man i hope that our pen can go 8 innings today!

[redsmetz]

Well here's a thought. At least he's not facing their Single A team :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Anyone know if Extra Innings on cable will have any HD games?
They are supposed to have a few games each week in HD.

[WMR]

Anyone know if Extra Innings on cable will have any HD games?

Good question. I'd love to know the answer to that. My gut says no.

[Matt700wlw]

Brace yourselves....

[WMR]

That poor girl, what luck :laugh:... 9 kids get to run onto the field and have a Reds player sign their ball, she gets Milton :lol:

[NatiRedGals]

For the first pitch homerun! Lol

[jesusfan]

Much pitch insiode?? lol

[jesusfan]

1 pitch 1 out....

[PuffyPig]

For the record, as a Red, Milton is 13-26, 60 innings, 69 Home Runs, and an almost 6 ERA.



He's actually 16-23, with 69 HR's in 339 innings.

[Matt700wlw]

Balls already flying :D

[jesusfan]

88 mph heater... that's about it for maximum speed...

[coachw513]

DIRECTV MLB EXTRA INNINGS HIGH DEFINITION: CH 731 ALSO 738 FOR THOSE WITHOUT HD.

I knew this and keep flipping to 731 and to 95 (it's on there as well)...but it's not coming on either of those stations...what gives??

[redram]

DIRECTV MLB EXTRA INNINGS HIGH DEFINITION: CH 731 ALSO 738 FOR THOSE WITHOUT HD.

I am getting it on 738 but 731 is just a black screen. Anyone else having this trouble

[jesusfan]

single for Wilson... that hung up for awhile, but in for a blooper...

[jesusfan]

Oh my... Milton vs Bay, im leaving!

[Matt700wlw]

He's actually 16-23, with 69 HR's in 339 innings.

I have to stop trying to act smart :D

[jesusfan]

Bay crushes one to Dunn who misplays it... that ball was hurt!

[RBA]

I'm also going back and forth between 731 and 738 and no HD.

[WMR]

Man Milton isn't fooling anybody. Big surprise.

[jesusfan]

Laroche kills one to BP, should have been a DP! runners on 1st and 3rd..

[jesusfan]

Errors, Errors, Errors...

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Wow. That was weird. Anyone else have their WKKI feed go all sloooooowwww for a second? It was bizarre, almost like Will Ferrell in Old School after he got shot with the dart.

[KronoRed]

Looks to be about 500 people in the stands today

[redsgabp]

sloppy first :(

[Matt700wlw]

No runs...no home runs...

[jesusfan]

Paulino dribbles one to Gonzo for out #3... Milton escapes inning 1 w/o damage...

[coachw513]

Thought: Yesterday 5.2 IP, 5 ER from Harang including a HR ball was "gutty, a tough performance by our ace in tough conditions"...

What will we say about a similar performance by Milton???...

I'm just sayin'...

[VR]

sloppy first :(

sloppy, scoreless first :)

[RBA]

731 Directv Hd On Now!

[HumnHilghtFreel]

I missed the Gonzo error, what happened?

[KronoRed]

It's snowing :lol:

[jesusfan]

Freel hits a bloop single to get it going...

[BoydsOfSummer]

It's like watching a horror movie when Milton pitches. You know something bad is gonna happen, you just don't know when.

[RBA]

BLOOP SINGLE FOR FREEL. You can see it snowing pretty good in HD.

[coachw513]

Lots of 1st pitch swingin' today with this weather...

[Marc D]

Every run free IP from Milton is a blessing.

That said, they are going to kill him. Bay took that 1st "heater" right down the middle and his body language was a clear "are you kidding, thats it?"

[KronoRed]

Freel thrown out

[dsmith421]

Thought: Yesterday 5.2 IP, 5 ER from Harang including a HR ball was "gutty, a tough performance by our ace in tough conditions"...

What will we say about a similar performance by Milton???...

Harang is a good pitcher and deserves the benefit of the doubt. Milton is one of the worst pitchers in baseball and doesn't. What's so difficult to understand about that?

[Matt700wlw]

Well......bummer

[jesusfan]

The error occurred when Gonzo tried to flip it to Encarnacion at third... Freel, why?

[redsgabp]

Freel You Dolt!

[coachw513]

731 Directv Hd On Now!

thanks

[jfar23]

That was about as perfect as a throw as you could make to catch Freel.

[jesusfan]

BP grounds to short... 2 down

[GridironGrace]

LETS GO REDS!!!

Gonna need atleast 5 runs today, *dangit freel*

Milton's gonna be fine.. he'll settle in and through 6 innings today :)

GOOO REDS!! headed to work though so.. have fun guys

[jesusfan]

Dunn whiffs... top 2nd zip zip...

[KronoRed]

Freel thrown out, Dunn K's

It's 2006 :D

[PuffyPig]

Freel You Dolt!

Funny, no one complained when he tried to steal yesterday?

[edabbs44]

Looks to be about 500 people in the stands today

Wait until school let's out...they'll be pushing 750 in July.

[Matt700wlw]

Thought: Yesterday 5.2 IP, 5 ER from Harang including a HR ball was "gutty, a tough performance by our ace in tough conditions"...

What will we say about a similar performance by Milton???...

I'm just sayin'...

Track record.

Yesterday was not Harang-like....won't be the rule, but rather the exception.

Milton's exception is pitching well.


I've tried for the past couple years to have Milton's back, and figure out a way to justify his struggles.....it can't be done. The pressure is on now, especially given the way the other 4 starters have performed.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Wait until school let's out...they'll be pushing 750 in July.

:laugh:

[jesusfan]

I don't care too much for 1st pitch steal attempts...

[jesusfan]

Nady will kill Milty..

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn bought Nady a bottle of Vodka because of the Home Run

:lol:

[PuffyPig]

Track record.

Yesterday was not Harang-like....won't be the rule, but rather the exception.

Milton's exception is pitching well.


I've tried for the past couple years to have Milton's back, and figure out a way to justify his struggles.....it can't be done. The pressure is on now.

Also, yesterday, at times, Harang was in complete control, striking out good hitters on tough pitches. I doubt we see Milton do that even if he pitches well.

[jesusfan]

okay.. how many bloopers are there going to be???

[redsgabp]

2 freel dives and 2 no catches :(

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Nice try by Freel. Those bloop hits are killers though

[Matt700wlw]

Also, yesterday, at times, Harang was in complete control, striking out good hitters on tough pitches. I doubt we see Milton do that even if he pitches well.

I think as the day wore on, the cold got to Harang....he was better early, and said after the game, he was having trouble gripping the ball at times.

[RBA]

Jr would of had a good jump on the ball and made the catch.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Freel needs to borrow a chest protector from Javy. He's gonna sprain his sternum.

[RBA]

K!

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Milton really isn't putting any pressure at all on his knee. His step to the plate is tiny, he's all arm right now.

[jesusfan]

Fly to Freel.. 2 down

[Matt700wlw]

Milton really isn't putting any pressure at all on his knee. His step to the plate is tiny, he's all arm right now.

I'm not sure if him being all arm is good or bad

[HumnHilghtFreel]

I'm not sure if him being all arm is good or bad

Definitely not a good thing.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Good inning by Milton with 2 K's.

[jesusfan]

Milton K's Duke... 2 IP 0 RUNS... keep it going!

[jesusfan]

Milton has always had poor mechanics... All arm, Cross body slinger... He's an injury waiting to happen!

[redsgabp]

milton not doing as bas as i would of thought so far.

[Eric_Davis]

Harang is a good pitcher and deserves the benefit of the doubt. Milton is one of the worst pitchers in baseball and doesn't. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Everything. A gutsy performance is a gutsy performance no matter who delivers it.

[jesusfan]

Edwin grounds to Sanchez... 1 down

[jesusfan]

Griff stings one to Laroche for out #2...

[jesusfan]

Frank Thomas no HOF???

[jesusfan]

C'mon Youngbody!

[VR]

milton not doing as bas as i would of thought so far.

Not much different than last year. Opponents had a .279 OBP last year during Milty's first 60 pitches of the game. It got ugly after that.

[Matt700wlw]

Conine continues to do well

[jesusfan]

Conine singles to right...

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Old Youngbody continues with his strong start. Single

[jesusfan]

C'mon GONZO!

[Eric_Davis]

Milton's job is to get us as many decent innings as he can the first 3 months of the season. After that, the club will have more flexibility, and won't have to rely upon him then. For now, the club does rely heavy upon him to get it done. He's a tough guy, as tough as anyone on the team. Heck, he has to listen to all of the hecklers and still try to perform. Don't be surprised if he figures out a way to get it done.

[Matt700wlw]

Marty just mentioned Conine's young body again

:lol:

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Gonzo grounds out to 2nd. Back to the edge of your seats as Milton comes out for the 3rd

[Eric_Davis]

FWIW, Milton did well last year the first time through a team's order. It was the second time through that killed him. So, the struggle starts in the 3rd.

[TRF]

Milton's job is to get us as many decent innings as he can the first 3 months of the season. After that, the club will have more flexibility, and won't have to rely upon him then. For now, the club does rely heavy upon him to get it done. He's a tough guy, as tough as anyone on the team. Heck, he has to listen to all of the hecklers and still try to perform. Don't be surprised if he figures out a way to get it done.

I'd be stunned as he hasn't gotten it done in three years. That said, I'm glad he's pitching well, because I want the Reds to win.

[jesusfan]

Crap... gotta go to work... GO REDS!

[coachw513]

By the way, on masters.org you can watch Phil giving the Masters away on hole #1 as he lines up a putt for a double bogey...he's already been in 2 bunkers...wow...

[Bobcat J]

FWIW, Milton did well last year the first time through a team's order. It was the second time through that killed him. So, the struggle starts in the 3rd.

Doesn't this make him a good candidate for the bullpen?

[jfar23]

If Milton can give the Reds what he did last year I'll be happy. 5.19era .500 record. I'm certainly not expecting any better.

[Matt700wlw]

If Milton can give the Reds what he did last year I'll be happy. 5.19era .500 record. I'm certainly not expecting any better.

From a #5, that'll work.

For $9 Million, that's pathetic.

[Eric_Davis]

Doesn't this make him a good candidate for the bullpen?Yes, it does, and that's where he may be the second half of the year, if we don't trade him.

[Patrick Bateman]

I love how the Pirates continue giving away outs with the failed bunt attempts.

[redsgabp]

milton looks good today for himself, but after 5 innings we have to go to the pen!

[guttle11]

From a #5, that'll work.

For $9 Million, that's pathetic.


It's the last year of his deal, so the money is irrelevant at this point. Just give the team a reasonable shot to win the game when you start.

[redsgabp]

You Can't Walk Milton!

Walks Will Haunt You!

[Matt700wlw]

Something bad is about to happen...

[Matt700wlw]

That looked like a good pitch to me...

[Matt700wlw]

Something bad is about to happen...

...for the Pirates :D

[Eric_Davis]

Something bad is about to happen... Not at all. In a tie game with 2 outs, he'd rather pitch to LaRoche than Bay.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Milton coasts through another inning. Tell your family that you love them, the apocalypse is near.

[guttle11]

That looked like a good pitch to me...

The ump needed to see it again to make sure it was a strike.

[flynn78]

Uncle Milty is trying hard. I will give him that.

[VR]

Conine continues to do well

Milty obviously not aware how important his ST stats are.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm scared to say something good about Milton's performance so far, in fear that it will all come to an end.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

I'm scared to say something good about Milton's performance so far, in fear that it will all come to an end.

That's why I'm hiding smart-mouthed remarks behind all my complements :laugh:

[KronoRed]

Time for Milton power

[Eric_Davis]

For a second there, I thought Milton didn't want to hurt himself by swinging the bat.

[TC81190]

I don't know...I'd be slightly alright with a repeat of last year from Milton, sans major meltdowns. He barely gave up more hits than IP...I don't know.

[redsgabp]

reds bats are dead.

it would be a shame if milton went 7 and gave up 2 and he can't get a W.

[TC81190]

I'm scared to say something good about Milton's performance so far, in fear that it will all come to an end.

:D

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

I don't know...I'd be slightly alright with a repeat of last year from Milton, sans major meltdowns. He barely gave up more hits than IP...I don't know.

Boy I don't like defending Milton....but it's not like Narron did him any favors on some of those meltdowns.

[PuffyPig]

I He barely gave up more hits than IP...I don't know.

Milton's problem is generally not he number of hits he gives up, or his control or even his strikeouts.

It's the huge number of HR's he gives up.

[KronoRed]

Grande hogging the space heater up in the booth

[redsgabp]

M's-Indians postponed again
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/recap/MLB_20070408_SEA@CLE

man that sucks for them.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Nady rips a hanging curve for a single

[coachw513]

Boy I don't like defending Milton....but it's not like Narron did him any favors on some of those meltdowns.

Amen...

and if you wanna know the best part about watchin' the masters on the computer, it's making the choice to mute Grande and Welsh...god, they really are awful, aren't they???

[KronoRed]

M's-Indians postponed again
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/recap/MLB_20070408_SEA@CLE

man that sucks for them.

Quadruple header time :D

[TC81190]

Milton's problem is generally not he number of hits he gives up, or his control or even his strikeouts.

It's the huge number of HR's he gives up.

*blink*



*blink*




Somehow forgot about that. He does have a tad of a walk problem though.

[Redleg39]

Dunn can't handle the ball in left, costs the reds a run

[captainmorgan07]

okay that's enough of milty for one day for me

[redsgabp]

and now it begins

[Matt700wlw]

...So it begins

:D

[KronoRed]

Wow..Milton is the anti-Brandon Webb

[redsgabp]

Dunn can't handle the ball in left, costs the reds a run

it took a bad bounce.

i cant defend dunn as being a good DF player but he didn't get a error on the play because he didn't deserve it.

milton caused that.

get a clue

[Matt700wlw]

I like the pitch inside to knock Batista down...

[Falls City Beer]

Everything hit off Milton goes a mile. It's just if you're lucky, it doesn't have the height to get out.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice catch!

[Redleg39]

it took a bad bounce.

i cant defend dunn as being a good DF player but he didn't get a error on the play because he didn't deserve it.

milton caused that.

get a clue

Just saw the replay, agree with u completely

[Matt700wlw]

It's snowing again

:help:

[Matt700wlw]

JB impressed with Phillips

[Redleg39]

alright, let's go score some runs

[ochoa30]

good job milton so far! Even the double wasnt that bad of a pitch, hopefully he can go another scoreless inning or 2 and we get him some runs!!!

[Eric_Davis]

Milton's done his job through four going up against their Ace. 1 run given up through four.....now let's tie it up, so we don't lose a 5-inning game 1-0.

[jfar23]

I just looked up Pokey Reese since they were talking about him. Completely out of the game now. He left Marlins spring training last year and thats the last news I saw.

[coachw513]

nice stat by FSN...Brandon Webb 4.23 GB/FB ratio with 65 DP, Milton 0.6 or so with only 10 DP...

that being said, we joke about it but he really would be a different pitcher in a park like Washington...

and nice catch BP...though not the best of AB's...

lots of guys getting back to the dugout very quickly...

[Matt700wlw]

good job milton so far! Even the double wasnt that bad of a pitch, hopefully he can go another scoreless inning or 2 and we get him some runs!!!

Don't say that too loud :)

[KronoRed]

I just looked up Pokey Reese since they were talking about him. Completely out of the game now. He left Marlins spring training last year and thats the last news I saw.

Was posted around here somewhere the he's officially retired now.

[Eric_Davis]

What the heck is Dunn waiting for? Eggs in his beer?

[KronoRed]

Is BP in some sort of hurry? has he seen more then 3 pitches combined?

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn was lost on that one.

[jfar23]

Only Conine and maybe Griffey have hit the ball hard today off Duke.

[Redleg39]

Edwin Backward k's too.

[coachw513]

Zach Duke...wow...

Tiger down the middle, Appleby way right off tee at #1...

[Redleg39]

Only Conine and maybe Griffey have hit the ball hard today off Duke.

Duke does look pretty good so far today.

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn takes strike three called at the ankles.

[geniusMoment]

Lots of first pitch swings. It's cold, they're going to Arizona and it's get-away-day. Don't expect the Reds to put up their best effort today. It's a long season, sometimes this happens.

[coachw513]

Is BP in some sort of hurry? has he seen more then 3 pitches combined?

said I'm assuming from the comfort of your nicely temperature controlled home...

[KronoRed]

said I'm assuming from the comfort of your nicely temperature controlled home...

No way, I turn the heat off and open the windows, I'm a team player

[Redleg39]

There's the Milton we know

[Matt700wlw]

I've seen enough.

[OnBaseMachine]

Milton sucks. Release him.

[KronoRed]

Milton to left..3-0 pirates.

[captainmorgan07]

okay offically enough of milty get up santos

[coachw513]

No way, I turn the heat off and open the windows, I'm a team player

which I've happily done as well...though I do live in Florida :D

damn Pirates...

[redsgabp]

pull him now

if we give up any more runs we will 100% lose today

[RedFanAlways1966]

Seems most of the Pirates hits have been on 2-strike counts.

[geniusMoment]

Don't worry, I get the feeling this game was over after the Pirates scored their first. Duke looks unhittable.

[Matt700wlw]

I see all of our leashes are relatively short

:lol:

That's 70 Homers in 61 Reds starts

[captainmorgan07]

just get me into that pirate bullpen and i'll feel alil better

[CTA513]

Milton has lost about 4-5 mph off his fastball since joining the Reds.

[ochoa30]

Man, milton does not allow us to be optimistic very long.

[RedFanAlways1966]

okay offically enough of milty get up santos

Can he hit a LH pitcher too?!? ;)

[George Foster]

Milton sucks. Release him.

What more does this guy have to do, to prove to everyone that he has no business in a big league uniform.

[Matt700wlw]

What more does this guy have to do, to prove to everyone that he has no business in a big league uniform.

Surrender his paycheck(s)

[George Foster]

What is the word on Hamilton? still sick?

[KronoRed]

5 innings 3 runs should be enough.

[Falls City Beer]

At least it wasn't five dingers. :)

[Eric_Davis]

Milton....1st time through the order....no runs.
..............2nd time through the order....one run.
.............3rd time through the order....two runs.

He did his job, but he faced Duke instead of Maholm or Armas. 3 runs in 5 innings is acceptable.

[Redleg39]

What is the word on Hamilton? still sick?

Not sure, but looked better signing autographs for the fans before the game

[RedFanAlways1966]

What more does this guy have to do, to prove to everyone that he has no business in a big league uniform.

On the bright side...

One more inning of scoreless ball and he can get a quality start. :devil:

And let us remember that Harang gave up more runs in 5 IP against the Pirates than Milton did.

Okay, okay... don't throw things at me! :)

[coachw513]

5 innings 3 runs should be enough.

Which I'd be thrilled with all year long as a #5 starter..

today's problem isn't Milton, but rather Duke...

[captainmorgan07]

jr. just missed that one 1 out

[Redleg39]

I really thought it was gone off the bat.

[Red in Chicago]

Milton....1st time through the order....no runs.
..............2nd time through the order....one run.
.............3rd time through the order....two runs.

He did his job, but he faced Duke instead of Maholm or Armas. 3 runs in 5 innings is acceptable.

for his first outing of the year, it's certainly acceptable...

[Matt700wlw]

Technically, Milton hasn't done too bad....



























Yet :D

[captainmorgan07]

Technically, Milton hasn't done too bad....



























Yet :D

Key word YET

[Marc D]

Milton....1st time through the order....no runs.
..............2nd time through the order....one run.
.............3rd time through the order....two runs.

He did his job, but he faced Duke instead of Maholm or Armas. 3 runs in 5 innings is acceptable.


Agreed.

Take what you can get, get him out now and keep his numbers respectable.

Jerry will leave him in for the death blow however.

[KronoRed]

Please let the pitchers spot come up..and please let Narron do the right thing.

[PuffyPig]

He did his job, but he faced Duke instead of Maholm or Armas. 3 runs in 5 innings is acceptable.


BTW, an average Milton start for the Reds is about 3 runs in 5 innings with 1 HR allowed. A 5.4 ERA won't win you many games.

[Red in Chicago]

Key word YET

such pessamism (sp?);)

[captainmorgan07]

broken bat single for Agon

[RedFanAlways1966]

A 5.4 ERA won't win you many games.

Neither will 0 runs scored from the offense. :(

[coachw513]

Agreed.

Take what you can get, get him out now and keep his numbers respectable.

Jerry will leave him in for the death blow however.

There in lies the rub...if Narron now understands Milton is just a #5 and needs to be treated as such...we'd see a new pitcher in the 6th and Milton goes home with a decent start...

If not...

[captainmorgan07]

activity in the reds pen santos is one of um

[coachw513]

BTW, an average Milton start for the Reds is about 3 runs in 5 innings with 1 HR allowed. A 5.4 ERA won't win you many games.

but is that really better than what we'd get from any other #5 starter in our organization (until Bailey is ready and we adjust accordingly)???...or any other team in our division???

[KronoRed]

Yikes, here comes Milton

[Matt700wlw]

Larue K's....oh, that was Ross

[captainmorgan07]

Larue K's....oh, that was Ross

i had to look twice two that was a larue swing

[RedsManRick]

Milton has given up fewer runs today than Harang did yesterday. Guess we should cut Harang too. The vitriol expressed for Milton is becoming ridiculous. 3 runs in 5 IP by our #5 starter is not a bad outing.

[PuffyPig]

It took Duke 12 innings, but he finally struck out someone (Ross) this year other than Dunn.

[captainmorgan07]

milton still out there

[coachw513]

good gosh...Masters Leaderboard as of 3:35

Woods +4
Appleby +4
Sabatini +4
Goosen +4

is it the US Open yet??

Reds, can you please score some runs???

[Matt700wlw]

If he can do this consistantly (knock on wood that he doesn't implode here)....I'll take that, especially from a #5.

However, my faith of him doing this consistantly isn't very high

[coachw513]

how many pitches for Milton going into the 6th??

[captainmorgan07]

how many pitches for Milton going into the 6th??

to many

[RedFanAlways1966]

If he can do this consistantly (knock on wood that he doesn't implode here)....I'll take that, especially from a #5.

However, my faith of him doing this consistantly isn't very high

Just like my faith in the REDS hitting LH starters is not very high. :help:

[captainmorgan07]

okay jerry get him outta there bautista doubles

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

HA! Anybody just hear Marty about JimBo?

[captainmorgan07]

HA! Anybody just hear Marty about JimBo?

what he say?

[Matt700wlw]

If it's warm out, is that ball out?

[OnBaseMachine]

Milton loves throwing 0-2 and 1-2 fastballs down the middle.

[KronoRed]

If it's warm out, is that ball out?

That's upper deck if it's warm, Milton thought it was long gone.

[coachw513]

HA! Anybody just hear Marty about JimBo?

what did he say??

and I'll say it again...whatever happens to Milton from this point on is about Narron, not Milton...

[RedFanAlways1966]

Duke s/b Milton's last hitter. Considering Sanchez' lifetime stats against him and a runner in scoring position.

[Eric_Davis]

Really high number of 1-2 counts that the Pirates have gotten hits. The Homer...this double...the single before the homer.

[Jr's Boy]

MLB.tv reeks,i'm not in Reds blackout area,and sure as heck not in Pirates area.However they always black out the Reds here.I checked the mlb extra innings on the internet and it says my area code isn't a blackout area.But i'm reluctant to order it because i'm blacked out on the cable transmission.Membengal are you blacked out on cable tv there?Sorry for the rant fella's but it's really aggravating.

[Matt700wlw]

JB only had 8 hits in his big league career.

[George Foster]

there is 2 outs look for a hit.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Guess not...

[KronoRed]

Double and now 4-0

[WMR]

Nice call Jerry!!

[George Foster]

there is 2 outs look for a hit.


God I hate being right. That is why Milton sucks so bad. 2 out hits.

[coachw513]

Duke s/b Milton's last hitter. Considering Sanchez' lifetime stats against him and a runner in scoring position.

seriously, this is just stupid...

Milton has done his job...Narron is NOT doing his...

(I swear I was writing before the Sanchez AB)...

just plain stupid...

[OnBaseMachine]

Jerry Narron is a genius. Seriously, how in the hell is he a major league manager?

I feel like I've been slapped in the face by the Reds organization by starting Milton.

[Matt700wlw]

Well...what do we make of this?

10 hits, 4 runs, 5+ innings........1 out shy of a "quality start"

[RedsFan75]

finally

[Eric_Davis]

You guys called it. Milton should have been pulled after Duke.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

what did he say??

and I'll say it again...whatever happens to Milton from this point on is about Narron, not Milton...

Brantley was saying Jeff Shaw would have saved 25 games in back to back seasons if Bowden hadn't traded him.

Marty said "That guy you talked about? I don't mention his name."

Brantley: "Jeff Shaw? or Bowden?"

Marty: "The latter."