4/14/07 at Chicago

[membengal]

From what is posted at mlb.com

Freel CF
Phillips 2b
Dunn LF
Conine 1b
Jr. RF
Encarnacion 3b
Castro SS
Ross C
Arroyo P

Cubs line-up:

Soriano CF
Theirot 3b
Jones RF
Lee 1B
Barrett C
Floyd LF
Cedeno 2b
Izturis SS
Hill P

[membengal]

As much as I like to see Hamilton play, nice spot for a day off here against the lefty...

[Degenerate39]

Conine batting cleanup? Normally I would have a problem with it up he's got a hot bat right now.

[cincy09]

cubs lineup:


1. A Soriano, CF .205 0 0 1
2. R Theriot, 3B .214 0 3 3
3. J Jones, RF .265 0 0 1
4. D Lee, 1B .395 0 5 0
5. M Barrett, C .233 0 5 0
6. C Floyd, LF .333 0 2 0
7. R Cedeno, 2B .100 1 1 1
8. C Izturis, SS .214 0 1 0
9. R Hill, P .000 0 0 0

[fewfirstchoice]

Phillips needs to be at SS so that Hamilton can get in the lineup.It just amazes me the things Narron does with his lineup.It would be totally different if BP couldnt play short but he can.It just baffles me how he could put Castro in over Josh.

[smith288]

No TV on a saturday after against the cubs? How lame is that?

[robmadden1]

Is thier video or just audio of today's game on MLB.tv?

[robmadden1]

If thier is video I may be able to watch it for free from this site http://myp2p.eu/MLB.htm

[Razor Shines]

Is thier video or just audio of today's game on MLB.tv?

Just audio, national black out on Saturday games before 7 pm.

[membengal]

No TV on a saturday after against the cubs? How lame is that?

At least there are a ton of TV games coming up...

[Hoosier Red]

lefty on the mound, I'd say good move keeping Josh out of the lineup.

[Degenerate39]

Man, we pissed Sweet Lou off yesterday.

[Joseph]

lefty on the mound, I'd say good move keeping Josh out of the lineup.

Except doesn't he hit lefties better than right handers even or was that some hyperbole spouted by an announcer somewhere?

[Dunner44]

Except doesn't he hit lefties better than right handers even or was that some hyperbole spouted by an announcer somewhere?

I don't know about Hamilton, but Dunn hit 40ish points better off lefties last year...

This year in a small sample size, however, dunn is hitting .500 off righties and only .158 off lefties. His .583 OBP against righties is SICK.

His line so far (ADMITTED small sample size):

L- .158/.200/.158
R- .500/.583/1.15

[coachw513]

From what is posted at mlb.com

Freel CF
Phillips 2b
Dunn LF
Conine 1b
Jr. RF
Encarnacion 3b
Castro SS
Ross C
Arroyo P

Cubs line-up:

Soriano CF
Theirot 3b
Jones RF
Lee 1B
Barrett C
Floyd LF
Cedeno 2b
Izturis SS
Hill P

Servers, prepare...

Lineup shock, lineup shock...:eek:

"No Hamilton"..."Conine 4th"...the only thing that may save the RZ is only 40 minutes to break this down into totally unitelligible minutia... :D

Man, Hill was really good against us last year...14 IP, 2.57 ERA, only 3 BB, 20 K and a .125 BAA...let's change this today...

[fewfirstchoice]

I would rather have Josh batting against a lefty than Castro.I mean thats what this lineup comes down to.Play Freel at 2nd,BP at SS, and Hamilton in CF.I still take Josh over Castro at the plate any day,against righty or lefty.

[jmac]

Man, we pissed Sweet Lou off yesterday.

Let's do it again !

[Degenerate39]

Let's do it again !

I like your attitude :D

[Degenerate39]

I would rather have Josh batting against a lefty than Castro.I mean thats what this lineup comes down to.Play Freel at 2nd,BP at SS, and Hamilton in CF.I still take Josh over Castro at the plate any day,against righty or lefty.

He probably doesn't want BP and Freel playing out of position this early on. I'd be curious of what Freel could do at short.

[jfar23]

I think having two middle infielders playing out of position will cost you more runs than having Josh Hamilton in would create vs Rich Hill.

[Kc61]

Hamilton was badly fooled by the Cubs lefties late in the game yesterday. Griffey and Dunn are pretty good against lefties, and Freel is right handed. Right move to sit Hamilton today, at least for the start.

Castro, who (again) got an important single yesterday, and fielded the position flawlessly, should be at shortstop today. Moving Phillips and Freel out of position will only mess up an infield that has been excellent defensively.

Glad Conine is at cleanup. EE is starting to press and Reds need to take the pressure off him for awhile, until he gets untracked. Conine logical cleanup guy against lefty for today.

Only question I have is Ross hitting eighth. Guy needs to get going, likely won't get much to hit in the eighth spot.

Time to get Lou upset again.

[KronoRed]

Conine cleanup? what's the logic behind that gem? :help:

[Degenerate39]

Conine cleanup? what's the logic behind that gem? :help:

Because he's a beast

[James B.]

I think having two middle infielders playing out of position will cost you more runs than having Josh Hamilton in would create vs Rich Hill.

Exactly! This is the right lineup, considering the situation and the pitcher for the Cubs.

[membengal]

I don't have a problem with Conine clean-up with EE struggling a bit. Take some pressure off EE and Conine will be a testy out against the lefty Hill today, watch and see...

[KronoRed]

Why not JR cleanup? both lefties so it's not a breaking the lefties up thing, odd.

[Dunner44]

Why not JR cleanup? both lefties so it's not a breaking the lefties up thing, odd.

Except Conine is a right handed hitter... or were you talking about someone else?

[Degenerate39]

How many different lineups have we seen thus far for the Reds?

[Dunner44]

Anyone see this lastest gem from Narron yet? Per Fay:


So no Josh Hamilton with lefty Rich Hill starting. Jerry Narron said Ryan Freel will probably get a start or two at third base soon in order to get Hamilton time in center field.

I suppose EE could use a day off or two... I hope this is not a sign.

[TeamCasey]

Poo! No TV. Good PBP, Peeps!

[KronoRed]

Except Conine is a right handed hitter... or were you talking about someone else?

:lol: indeed he is, that's what 8 hours of sleep will do to you ;)

[Hoosier Red]

Anyone see this lastest gem from Narron yet? Per Fay:



I suppose EE could use a day off or two... I hope this is not a sign.

Though I'm sure it will be construed as a "punishment" of EE, i think it's more a realization of A. Freel is probably a little bit better 3b than a 2b. B. Phillips is a lot better defensively than EE. C. If Narron's going to move guys around he's going to try and do so with as little disruption as possible to the defense.
(thus we won't see Freel to 2b, Phillips to SS)

[cincy09]

the game is gonna be on mlb.tv

Comcast is carrying it again

[GAC]

Hill last pitched against us in September at Wrigley. He pitched a complete game, 2 hit, shutout, and won 4-0.

[GAC]

Chat is open :beerme:

[WMR]

Phillips a lot better defensively than EE?

EE has been an absolute beast so far this season at 3B. Every bit as good at his position as B.Phil has been at his.

[Degenerate39]

The game is blacked out for me :( I won't get to see it.

[TeamCasey]

Chat is open :beerme:

Playing some online games. Be in in awhile.

[cincy09]

I have no idea why ei didn't pick this up........

They have the indiands white sox game.

[thatcoolguy_22]

The game is blacked out for me :( I won't get to see it.

i seem to have the game but I'm in norfolk va atm

[Will M]

I think having two middle infielders playing out of position will cost you more runs than having Josh Hamilton in would create vs Rich Hill.

I agree.

The Reds are going to be a 'pitching and defense' team with Krisky at the helm. Get used to it.

[Will M]

Why not JR cleanup? both lefties so it's not a breaking the lefties up thing, odd.

Jr stunk up the stadium in 2006 vs lefties.

[redsfan30]

Has there ever been a leadoff hitter in the history of the game that swings at as many first pitches as Ryan Freel?

[OnBaseMachine]

Freel popsout on the first pitch...he's not too bright.

[Will M]

Conine cleanup? what's the logic behind that gem? :help:

My guess - EE has been swinging at a lot of bad pitches so Narron dropped him to 6th. If he gets his head screwed on and becomes more selective at the plate he will be back in the 3-4-5 slots.

[Falls City Beer]

Has there ever been a leadoff hitter in the history of the game that swings at as many first pitches as Ryan Freel?

Phillips?

I mean really: his career OBP totally belies the "impatience" thesis. Just drop it. It's silly.

Phillips is impatient. Freel is not. Facts.

[membengal]

Both Freel and Phillips were uber-quick to swing early in their at-bats. Both of them need to relax a bit in their next swings...

[Degenerate39]

Not a very good start for the Reds

[Falls City Beer]

Not a very good start for the Reds

Hill is tough. One of several tough lefties they'll face on this trip.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

I'm having trouble with WKKI; anywhere else I can listen to the game online (for free that is)?

[Falls City Beer]

It's Arroyo's charge to keep a bad Cubs' offense from scoring more than a couple of runs over 7. If he gets in trouble in this one, he's no one (including the offense) to blame.

[Brisco]

I don't have a problem with Conine clean-up with EE struggling a bit. Take some pressure off EE and Conine will be a testy out against the lefty Hill today, watch and see...


"Conine will be a testy out"

I cant read this without thinking he is going to bat with his fly open.

:D

[GAC]

I'm having trouble with WKKI; anywhere else I can listen to the game online (for free that is)?

www.thegamelive.com

[Razor Shines]

Anybody got a guess as to why this isn't being blacked out on mlb.tv? Not complaining, just wondering.

[ThatsAStrike]

Soriano K's looking.
Theriot strokes a single to left.
Jones K's looking.
Next guy flies out.

[cincy09]

Anybody got a guess as to why this isn't being blacked out on mlb.tv? Not complaining, just wondering.

I wouldn't be surprized to see it cut off when the FOX game starts in a couple of hours :thumbdown

[ThatsAStrike]

I don't know why but mlb.tv isn't blacked out for me. I was totally expecting it to be considering it's a Saturday.

[Razor Shines]

I wouldn't be surprized to see it cut off when the FOX game starts in a couple of hours :thumbdown

Hey that's better than nothing.

[ThatsAStrike]

I wouldn't be surprized to see it cut off when the FOX game starts in a couple of hours :thumbdownTHAT would suck!

[GAC]

Chat is open :beerme:

[Falls City Beer]

Now THAT'S what you do against this Cubs' lineup.

[KronoRed]

Jr stunk up the stadium in 2006 vs lefties.
Then why is he 5th? ;)

[KronoRed]

I don't recall Freel being this impatient last season, odd.

[cincy09]

Conine is a monster

[Falls City Beer]

Jeff Conine didn't find the fountain of youth; he is the fountain of youth.

[Brisco]

Conine will be a testy out against the lefty Hill today, watch and see...


Conine is a monster

How can Conine hit with a bat with a testee out? That's just gotta play with the pitcher's head.

[OnBaseMachine]

Amazing how many times Reds hitters get ahead 3-0 and make an out.

[LINEDRIVER]

Then why is he 5th? ;)

Because Narron doesnt have the ----- to move him into the 6th slot?

[robmadden1]

http://www.wbvi.com/WBVILive.asx this is for ppl to listen to all reds games free online Its WBVI Mix 96.5fm out of Finlay, Ohio. I used this last yr when I was at work since AM does not work in are kitchen at work.

[MaineRed]

www.thegamelive.com

I have tried many of the Cubs and Reds choices and none of them are working.

Can you be more specific about which link actually works.

[OnBaseMachine]

Great atbat by EdE. 10 pitch walk.

[Razor Shines]

Because Narron doesnt have the ----- to move him into the 6th slot?

Or because Narron likes the R/L thing. You may not believe in it, I may not believe in it, but he sure does. That's what I think anyway.

[MaineRed]

I got WAXI on the Chicago side to work.

Any Reds afiliates that you know I can use?

[Outshined_One]

EE's pic on ESPN Gamecenter is Eddie Guardado. :laugh:

[Falls City Beer]

Hill wanted no part of Castro.

[Razor Shines]

EE's pic on ESPN Gamecenter is Eddie Guardado. :laugh:

Maybe that's why he's not hitting. Narron kidnapped the real Edwin!! He really does hate him!!

[cincy09]

2 on 2 out for Ross.........

he's due........i guess

[geniusMoment]

At what point do you not play Ross anymore, this is getting absurd.

[LINEDRIVER]

Or because Narron likes the R/L thing. You may not believe in it, I may not believe in it, but he sure does. That's what I think anyway.

I'd say JerrNarr likes the R/L thing when he can get it. However, I still think that if and when the situation calls for Griff to hit 6th, Narr doenst have the ----- to make it happen.

[Falls City Beer]

Whither Larue? :p:

[Razor Shines]

Is Hill throwing 90mph to Ross or 190mph?

[Wheelhouse]

Ross looks BAD

[cincy09]

Good news, Hill is up to 39 pitches!

[ThatsAStrike]

Conine hits a seeing-eye single between short and third.
The crowd boos as Junior steps up to the plate.
Griffey GiDP, 4-6-3 after going 3-0.
Encarnacion runs the count full and fouls off a bunch of pitches before drawing a walk.
Edwin steals second without a throw.
Castro walks.
Ross looks absolutely lost as he strikes out swinging on three pitches.

[larks]

Clueless, outmatched, fooled

[Razor Shines]

I'd say JerrNarr like the R/L thing when he can get it. However, I still think that if and when the situation calls for Griff to hit 6th, Narr doenst have the ----- to make it happen.

You could be right.

[MaineRed]

At what point do you not play Ross anymore, this is getting absurd.

Everyone wanted Larue gone. They got their wish. Now look. We aren't as good on D and we are no better off on O.

We have no other choice right now. Javy can't even get the ball to second so we have to live with Ross the majority of the time.

Sardhina should be ready be the AS break :rolleyes:.

[OnBaseMachine]

Everyone wanted Larue gone.

Not me.

[larks]

One thing about Ross is that the pitching staff generally seems much more comfortable with him behind the plate as opposed to Javy

[ThatsAStrike]

LaRue's not even batting .200 in KC right now.

[Wheelhouse]

Em, Larue is hitting at about Ross level for KC

[robmadden1]

Just click on the link it will open in media player http://www.wbvi.com/WBVILive.asx I am listening to it right now. To test that it works. It may not work the fist time just hiot play again then it should work it did for me with my test.

[Redsland]

Everyone wanted Larue gone.
Actually, I wanted to sell high on Ross.

[VR]

Griffey and Dunn are pretty good against lefties

Not sure where to find a split, but it seems like they've both been OK against pedestrian lefty starters the last few years, but have been absolutely dominated by lefties out of the pen. Anyone know where to find that split?

[Razor Shines]

LaRue's not even batting .200 in KC right now.

Ross isn't hitting .050

[Wheelhouse]

Ross isn't hitting .050

Notwithstanding, I do not yearn for Larue...

[Falls City Beer]

So far, so excellent for Bronson.

[cincy09]

Arroyo with 27 pitches through 2

[ThatsAStrike]

Barrett walks.
Floyd GiDP 4-6-3.
Number 5 runs the count full before popping out to Castro. (Sorry I don't know this Cubs lineup.)

[larks]

Just love watching Bronson pitch. Some of his breaking pitches make me laugh out loud. (ie the one on Soriano last week)

[larks]

i believe it was derosa

[OnBaseMachine]

i believe it was derosa

Ronny Cedeno.

[Razor Shines]

Wow Soriano was playing that "tenth" player position.

[larks]

oops sorry i saw number five and thought five hole hitter

[Outshined_One]

i believe it was derosa

Out with back spasms.

[jfar23]

I wonder if Phillips will be swinging for the fences here...

[redsgabp]

stupid mlb gameday is on 2nd inning.

[OnBaseMachine]

Gameday is way behind. Where are all the PBP guys at?

[6-4-3]

Arroyo lines out to CF.
Freel Walks.
BP pops out.

[redsgabp]

dunn kills cubs.

hit it out dunner

[Falls City Beer]

stupid mlb gameday is on 2nd inning.

Apparently the chimps in the gerbil wheels at MLB who run the operations there are on strike.

[jfar23]

Nice job Freel, getting picked off when Dunn is up. Makes a lot of sense.

[guttle11]

Freel picked off.

Can Bronson get some offense please?

[6-4-3]

Freel picked off of 1B.

3 outs

[redsgabp]

freel!

i swear to god!!!!!

sit him and put in hamilton!

[ThatsAStrike]

Arroyo lines out softly to shallow center.
Freel draws a walk. Third walk for Hill.
Phillips hits a mile-high pop-up to short.
Freel picked off trying to steal.

[OnBaseMachine]

I'm tired of that crap. Make Hamilton the everyday CF starting now.

[GAC]

I'm gonna have to nominate Ryan Freel for the award of "Dumbest Player On The Reds". The guy reacts before thinking most of the time.

[Razor Shines]

I'll do the PBP unless someone else wants to.

[Tom Servo]

The pickoffs, always with the pickoffs.

[Razor Shines]

never mind, I see it's being taken care of.

[larks]

Freel picked off.

Can Bronson get some offense please?

Yeah Arroyo is going to start approaching Roger Clemens/Houston Astros level of offensive support here.

[CTA513]

Good way to let Hill off the hook when he is having trouble throwing strikes.

:help:

[GAC]

That was Farney that got picked off, not Ryan :mooner:

[redsgabp]

Good way to let Hill off the hook when he is having trouble throwing strikes.

:help:

ryan freel is going to have that help sign if he keeps up costing us outs on the bases!

[redsupport]

freel must have the lowest IQ in all of sports

[ThatsAStrike]

Izturis hits a single to right past the diving Brandon Phillips.

[KronoRed]

Actually, I wanted to sell high on Ross.

Same

[Falls City Beer]

Hard-throwing lefties have great success picking runners off. Still, probably shouldn't have been running in that situation.

[larks]

good pitch bronson!

[LINEDRIVER]

I'm gonna have to nominate Ryan Freel for the award of "Dumbest Player On The Reds". The guy reacts before thinking most of the time.

Yep, now that LaRue is gone, somebody needs to be nominted. He'll get my vote.

[ThatsAStrike]

Hill bunts through strike three. A smattering of boos is heard from the crowd.

[GAC]

Nice DP. It wouldn't have happened with Freel playing 2B. ;)

[guttle11]

There we go. Sounded like a nice double play.

Bronson needs offense.

[larks]

great turn by phillips

[jfar23]

That double play was flat out sick! :cool:

[redsgabp]

Dp!

[cincy09]

40 pitches through 3 for Arroyo

[registerthis]

Nice turn by BP.

[ThatsAStrike]

Soriano GiDP 6-4-3. Great barehanded catch and throw by Phillips.

[Falls City Beer]

great turn by phillips

He needs to contribute SOMETHING to the team. I guess defense is sufficient.

[registerthis]

I see MLB.TV has switched from pong to Pacman for the between-innings entertainment.

[redsgabp]

That double play was flat out sick! :cool:

must of been nice to see in person.

since most of the games are on tv, i decided to use the mlb radio.

$15 and i'll only use it a handful of times.
right price.

[Eric_Davis]

stupid mlb gameday is on 2nd inning.

use sportsline.com

[Falls City Beer]

In a little over 1000 MLB at bats, Phillips has a .664 OPS.

Discuss.

[ThatsAStrike]

Dunn hits a broken-bat single to right.

[registerthis]

In a little over 1000 MLB at bats, Phillips has a .664 OPS.

Discuss.

We can't all be Todd Walker.

[guttle11]

I don't like wind. Should have been a HR, but just a semi loud out.

[ThatsAStrike]

Conine flies out deep to left.

[GAC]

Hrs are gonna be hard to get today with that wind blowing in. Conine hit that one on the nail and the wind held it up.

[ThatsAStrike]

Yeah that hit looked good coming off his bat.

[ThatsAStrike]

Dunn steals second without a throw.

[larks]

Thanks for the steal Dunn. I can always take a steal from my top fantasy homerun hitter

[redsgabp]

beep beep roadrunner LOL

[VR]

Reds still have the fewest DP's in the majors (4), but also have only 4 E's on the year.

My radio broadcast breaking up only magnifies the pain that is Jeff Brantley on PBP. Wow....he's not good. I do love his color, however.

[guttle11]

Griffey walks. 2 one, 1 out.

Which way will they not score this time?

[ThatsAStrike]

Griffey draws a walk much to the crowd's dismay.

[Degenerate39]

Hows everyone looking so far

[Falls City Beer]

Come on EdE; hit one out and give Jerr the game ball.

[larks]

nice pitch by hill regardless if its a ball

[guttle11]

Edwin pops out quickly and easily. 2 out.

[ThatsAStrike]

62 pitches by Hill so far.

[registerthis]

I thought that one was gone...

[ThatsAStrike]

Encarnacion pops out foul to first base.

[KronoRed]

In a little over 1000 MLB at bats, Phillips has a .664 OPS.

Discuss.

He Gonzo and Ross will make up one putrid 6-8 combo this year.

[Falls City Beer]

That's not gonna do it.

[jfar23]

EE needs to get it going. That pitch was up and away...not much you can do with that one even if you hit it solid. On the first pitch none the less.

[guttle11]

Castro grounds to Lee. Inning over.

Pain.

[ThatsAStrike]

Castro grounds out weakly to first.
Still no score.

[cincy09]

Hill with 66 pitches through 4

[OnBaseMachine]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.

[registerthis]

Been a struggle for E_E so far. He'll be OK, just needs to have a good game or two.

[GAC]

My radio broadcast breaking up only magnifies the pain that is Jeff Brantley on PBP. Wow....he's not good. I do love his color, however.

I like Brantley, but does anyone else think his voice sounds like Narrons?

[Falls City Beer]

EE needs to get it going. That pitch was up and away...not much you can do with that one even if you hit it solid. On the first pitch none the less.

Hill's gotten several righthanded hitters to swing on pitches up and on the outside part of the plate.

You got to lay off that pitch if you're a righthander, even if it's occasionally called a strike.

[geniusMoment]

Tomorrow I hope Freel's at third and Hamilton's in center.

[ThatsAStrike]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.More worthless than Milton?

[registerthis]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.

I hought Eric Milton had that title?

[6-4-3]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.

Many players in the MLB would love to have Castro's glove.

[Falls City Beer]

Been a struggle for E_E so far. He'll be OK, just needs to have a good game or two.

I agree. I'm not overly worried about him. He's had some very good ABs.

[larks]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.

I wouldnt call him worthless. He's better than most on defense and gets a big hit every now and then. There are a lot worse options to have coming off the bench.

[Spring~Fields]

He Gonzo and Ross will make up one putrid 6-8 combo this year.

Yes, toss in the pitcher, and how many potential auto-outs do they have before the game even starts?

[registerthis]

Sick pitch by Bronson.

[larks]

Theriot lookin' fooled!

[ThatsAStrike]

Theriot strikes out looking on a wicked pitch by Arroyo.

[OnBaseMachine]

I hought Eric Milton had that title?

I stand corrected. Castro earns that title for position players; Milton for pitchers.

[TC81190]

Juan Castro is easily the most worthless player in baseball.

I don't think he's worthless. He just should never start.

Couldn't Cruz gotten a look? Something?

[ThatsAStrike]

Jones grounds out. 4-3.

[Caveat Emperor]

Castro grounds to Lee. Inning over.

Pain.

Quicker you get used to it, the better. This offense is going to sputter for the entire year.

[OnBaseMachine]

Many players in the MLB would love to have Castro's glove.

Castro has the range of a pregnant snail.

[Falls City Beer]

Quicker you get used to it, the better. This offense is going to sputter for the entire year.

I really don't think it will against guys who aren't lefthanded strikeout experts. Hill's tough.

[cincy09]

Arroyo with 54 pitches through 4

[registerthis]

Bronson throwing really well today. Get him a couple of runs, goddangit.

[ThatsAStrike]

Lee flies out to center.
Still no score.

[TC81190]

In hindsight, would anyone have traded Kearns for Rich Hill?

[AccordinglyReds]

Bronson throwing really well today. Get him a couple of runs, goddangit.

Exactly.

[6-4-3]

Castro has the range of a pregnant snail.

Who would you have playing SS today?

[LINEDRIVER]

Perhaps David Ross should try this trick while he is in Chicago. It worked for Concepcion while the Reds were in Chicago on May 8, 1976.

MAY 8, 1976 ... Reds' shortstop Davey Concepcion, enduring a season-long slump with a .157 game time batting average and with just one hit in his last 21 at-bats, jumps into the clubhouse clothes dryer to get 'warmed up'. Teammate and pitcher Pat Zachry playfully pushes the dryer's 'ON' button and Concepcion takes a few tumbles before the dryer is stopped. Concepcion goes to the field and bangs out three hits to jump start his slumping season. The Reds are winners over the Cubs on a cold day in the Windy City, 14-4.

[larks]

heck yeah. i really wanted that deal to go down. ive always liked hill despite his initial struggles. never much of a kearns fan except for that arm of his

[geniusMoment]

The Reds can score as long as these players aren't up in key situations:
Edwin Encarnacion
David Ross
Juan Castro
Brandon Phillips

[OnBaseMachine]

In hindsight, would anyone have traded Kearns for Rich Hill?

Yes.

[OnBaseMachine]

Who would you have playing SS today?

Paul Janish. Or Phillips. But probably Janish.

[larks]

:rolleyes:

[ThatsAStrike]

Yeesh. Ross K's looking.

[Falls City Beer]

Where's Damon Berryhill when you need him?

[TC81190]

The Reds can score as long as these players aren't up in key situations:
Edwin Encarnacion
David Ross
Juan Castro
Brandon Phillips

:rolleyes:

[Chip R]

What I'd like to know is why Marty Barrett came out of retirement to catch for the Cubs. ;)

[ThatsAStrike]

Bronson K's swinging.

[ThatsAStrike]

Freel flies out to the warning track in left.

[cincy09]

Hill with 76 pitches now through 5

[OnBaseMachine]

Freel swings at the first pitch again. Wow.

[geniusMoment]

When Ross fouls off a pitch that's a success. His teammates should go up and slap high fives like he hit a HR and give him a hug after he heads back to the dugout after his strike out. He is an automatic out every time, and is worse than most pitchers at hitting.

[6-4-3]

Paul Janish. Or Phillips. But probably Janish.

Janish would have to get out of Chattanooga, so Phillips probably would be the better option.

[cincy09]

Freel flies out to the warning track in left.

1st pitch again too!

[geniusMoment]

:rolleyes:
Yeah because he's looked so freakin great today, I'd just love to have him up with the game on the line. That's sarcasm incase you can't tell.

[Falls City Beer]

1st pitch again too!

And one of only a couple hard hit balls against Hill all day. That's a homer at GAB.

Sometimes it's not wrong to swing at the first pitch.

[CTA513]

If Ross played everyday he could probably challenge Dunns strike out record.

:eek:

[Spring~Fields]

Where's this new hitting coach/guru that we all read about earlier? I really appreciate the fine work he has done to date. :bang:

[larks]

When Ross fouls off a pitch that's a success. His teammates should go up and slap high fives like he hit a HR and give him a hug after he heads back to the dugout after his strike out. He is an automatic out every time, and is worse than most pitchers at hitting.


:laugh: :laugh:

[VR]

This offense is going to sputter for the entire year.

Reds are middle of the pack or better in every hitting category in the majors. While they don't have the offensive gusto of past years, the incredible defensive improvement and stronger pitching makes 'average' more than enough offense to win this year.

[ThatsAStrike]

Barrett hits a long single off the center field wall. Well-played by Freel.

[Brisco]

And one of only a couple hard hit balls against Hill all day. That's a homer at GAB.

Sometimes it's not wrong to swing at the first pitch.


I agree... too bad we couldnt have used a Milton start up today... with the win blowing in like it is, he would have had about 18 warning track outs.

[penantboundreds]

It bothers me when I look at the line-up and see Castro starting at shortstop. Getting Hamilton in the line-up shouldn't be that hard.

[ThatsAStrike]

Floyd lines a single to center.

[OnBaseMachine]

Arroyo gives up a hit on a 0-2 pitch. Geez.

[NJReds]

Back-to-back singles for the Cubs. 1st and 2nd. 0 outs.

[larks]

It bothers me when I look at the line-up and see Castro starting at shortstop. Getting Hamilton in the line-up shouldn't be that hard.

[OnBaseMachine]

Looks like the shutout ends this inning. Right now it appears one run could win this game for the Cubs.

[Spring~Fields]

When Ross fouls off a pitch that's a success. His teammates should go up and slap high fives like he hit a HR and give him a hug after he heads back to the dugout after his strike out. He is an automatic out every time, and is worse than most pitchers at hitting.

There were quite a few posters who thought that Ross and Phillips might regress to their previous seasons or levels. Of course we hope that is not true.

[larks]

It bothers me when I look at the line-up and see Castro starting at shortstop. Getting Hamilton in the line-up shouldn't be that hard.

oops forgot to add my comments- i agree with not playing hamilton against hill today. he is a very tough lefty. hamilton is still playing like his 20 professional game at any level in the past four years. set him up for success initially let him gain his confidence at first

[ThatsAStrike]

Both runners advance on a wild pitch.

[NJReds]

Wild Pitch...2nd & 3rd.

[Falls City Beer]

The wheels have come off for Bronson.

[ThatsAStrike]

Cedeno hits a sac fly to left. Run scores. Runner advances to second.

[larks]

It bothers me when I look at the line-up and see Castro starting at shortstop. Getting Hamilton in the line-up shouldn't be that hard. originally posted by penantboundreds not larks

[NJReds]

Some of Arroyo's pitches move like wiffle balls.

[RedEye]

Reds are middle of the pack or better in every hitting category in the majors. While they don't have the offensive gusto of past years, the incredible defensive improvement and stronger pitching makes 'average' more than enough offense to win this year.

I'm not sure I'd describe this defense as 'incredible' just yet. I also don't think I'd say the pitching is too much 'stronger' than last year. We've still got Aaron and Bronson, but after that there's not too much. And I'm not convinced that Bronson won't regress this year. Last year at this time, we had good offense, average pitching, and terrible defense. This year we've got average everything--I think that evens out at about the same W-L expectation.

[ThatsAStrike]

Err...third.

[VR]

At what point did Dunn lose his arm? I remember him throwing some seeds his rookie year, he obviously has no respect to get run on like that.

[OnBaseMachine]

Arroyo's fault for giving Barrett something to hit on 0-2.

[NJReds]

At what point did Dunn lose his arm? I remember him throwing some seeds his rookie year, he obviously has no respect to get run on like that.

I was thinking the same thing. Cliff Floyd is no speedster.

[penantboundreds]

why no walk to izturiz there....set up a double play ball for hill

[ThatsAStrike]

Crud. Suicide squeeze bunt by Izturis. Run scores. 2-0 Cubs.

[Razor Shines]

Ross should have stayed home.

[OnBaseMachine]

Two runs is a lot to make up with this offense against Hill.

[redsupport]

on any other team arroyo should be 3-0

[AccordinglyReds]

Grrrrrr

[RedEye]

Ross should have stayed home.

Did he screw up another play at the plate?

[cincy09]

Arroyo with 68 pitches through 5

[ThatsAStrike]

Hill grounds out 1-3.

2-0 Cubs after 5.

[penantboundreds]

hill has already thrown 76 pitches...he may get through 7 but we can score 2 on their bullpen