4-20-2007 Reds vs Phillies

[BRM]

Lineups courtesy of C. Trent.

Reds:
Ryan Freel CF
Adam Dunn LF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Josh Hamilton RF
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Scott Hatteberg 1B
Alex Gonzalez SS
David Ross C
Kyle Lohse P

Phillies:
Jimmy Rollins SS
Shane Victorino RF
Chase Utley 2B
Pat Burrell LF
Wes Helms 1B
Aaron Rowand CF
Abraham Nunez 3B
Carlos Ruiz C
Jon Lieber P

[LincolnparkRed]

Hopefully the bullpen will not come into play either way tonight. I don't think redszone can handle another meltdown.

[Matt700wlw]

Bullpen - don't blow it.

Hamilton - Do what you do.



That could make for a good night. :)

[Tom Servo]

I fear Lieber.

[Wheelhouse]

Hopefully the bullpen will not come into play either way tonight. I don't think redszone can handle another meltdown.

My personal meltdown or the bullpen's?

[WMR]

KGJ still sick?

[curedsfan]

Lieber vs Reds in 2006 -

GS 2, IP 15.2, WHIP 0.57, ERA 1.15, W 2 L 0

Hopefully we can do better than last year.....

[BuckWoody]

No Junior again tonight...he must really have a boo-boo tummy.

Doesn't Lieber usually do well against the Reds?

edit -- Yeah, I guess so...at least last year he did.

[EddieMilner]

who is the better CF option, Freel or Hamilton?

[WMR]

who is the better CF option, Freel or Hamilton?

I think Hamilton would be better in CF than Freel, but he might even be MORE valuable in RF due to the strength of his arm in comparison with Freel's skill-set.

[OesterPoster]

who is the better CF option, Freel or Hamilton?

There's one less wall for Freel to crash into in center...

[Matt700wlw]

No Junior again tonight...he must really have a boo-boo tummy.

Doesn't Lieber usually do well against the Reds?

edit -- Yeah, I guess so...at least last year he did.


Does it say something that I didn't even notice if Junior was in or out of the lineup?

[BuckWoody]

Does it say something that I didn't even notice if Junior was in or out of the lineup?
According to BRM's lineup post, Junior is not in the lineup. Is that what you're asking?

[Matt700wlw]

I didn't even notice.....

[Joseph]

I think Hamilton would be better in CF than Freel, but he might even be MORE valuable in RF due to the strength of his arm in comparison with Freel's skill-set.

Not picking on you at all WMR, but why is it that the RF is supposed to have the big arm and not the CFer? Wouldn't the CFer have more chances to throw someone out somewhere than a RFer and therefore wouldn't you want the best arm in CF?

[WMR]

Not picking on you at all WMR, but why is it that the RF is supposed to have the big arm and not the CFer? Wouldn't the CFer have more chances to throw someone out somewhere than a RFer and therefore wouldn't you want the best arm in CF?

I think the argument for having your RFer having the strongest arm is the throw from RF to 3rd.

[WMR]

Oh GREAT... BRM created the line-up thread?!?!

Talk about the ULTIMATE JINX.

Why bother even playing the game? ;)

[BRM]

Oh GREAT... BRM created the line-up thread?!?!

Talk about the ULTIMATE JINX.

Why bother even playing the game? ;)

You know, you're stalking ways are starting to scare me. :scared:


:p:

[WMR]

hahahahahah oh yeah look who's stalking... errr talking!! :laugh: :lol:

[Spring~Fields]

Hopefully the bullpen will not come into play either way tonight. I don't think redszone can handle another meltdown.

Please no, not tonight, I did everything I could to hold back my keyboard last night from a Freddy on Elm St outburst. I don't know if I could hold it back tonight.

[Dom Heffner]

Not picking on you at all WMR, but why is it that the RF is supposed to have the big arm and not the CFer? Wouldn't the CFer have more chances to throw someone out somewhere than a RFer and therefore wouldn't you want the best arm in CF?


The amount of times this comes into play during the season makes this a non-issue for me.

[Joseph]

The amount of times this comes into play during the season makes this a non-issue for me.

In what way do you mean that? In that it doesn't matter where the best arm is at all, or in that the CFer only has a few more chances than the RFer? Or other? lol

[flyer85]

Lieber had a no hitter either into the 7th or 8th last year at GABP.

[Heath]

Lieber had a no hitter either into the 7th or 8th last year at GABP.

:thisyear:

[TheBigLebowski]

Final score prediction: Reds 9, Phils 1

Lohse money yet again, bullpen given no chance to blow it.
Hamilton leaves the yard yet again
EdE 3-4

[CTA513]

Reds vs. Lieber
1. Ryan Freel: (.250 AVG) 1 for 4 with 1 K
2. Adam Dunn: (.423 AVG) 11 for 26 with 3 Doubles, 4 Homeruns, 11 RBIs and 6 Ks
3. Brandon Phillips: (.000 AVG) 0 for 6
4. Josh Hamilton: 0 ABs
5. Edwin Encarnacion: (.333 AVG) 2 for 6 with 2 Homeruns, 3 RBIs and 1 K
6. Scott Hatteberg: (.333 AVG) 5 for 15 with 1 Homerun, 2 RBIs and 2 Ks
7. Alex Gonzalez: (.276 AVG) 8 for 29 with 1 Double, 1 Homerun, 1 RBI and 7 Ks
8. David Ross: 0 ABs
9. Kyle Lohse: (.000 AVG) 0 for 3 with 3 Ks


Phillies vs. Lohse
1. Jimmy Rollins: (.167 AVG) 1 for 6 with 1 K
2. Shane Victorino: 0 ABS
3. Chase Utley: (.333 AVG) 1 for 3 with 1 K
4. Pat Burrell: (.167 AVG) 1 for 6 with 1 RBI and 3 Ks
5. Wes Helms: (.364 AVG) 4 for 11 with 2 Homeruns, 5 RBIs and 2 Ks
6. Aaron Rowand: (.277 AVG) 13 for 47 with 3 Doubles, 3 Homeruns, 8 RBIs, 1 BB and 4 Ks
7. Abraham Nunez: 0 ABs
8. Carlos Ruiz: 0 ABs
9. Jon Lieber: (.000 AVG) 0 for 2 with 1 K

[Matt700wlw]

Hamilton leaves the yard yet again



I hope so. I can't get enough of that "high" I get when I see him absolutely beat every odd known to man.

[Falls City Beer]

I'll say Phils win 6-2.

[texasdave]

I wonder if the fact that Lieber has pitched so little since the start of the season will make him rusty at all?

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder if the fact that Lieber has pitched so little since the start of the season will make him rusty at all?

Sometimes the Reds are a good team to face to shake off that rust.....it seems that way anyway.

[CTA513]

Sometimes the Reds are a good team to face to shake off that rust.....it seems that way anyway.

Ryan Howard is ready to shake off the rust.

[Joseph]

Ryan Howard is ready to shake off the rust.

He's hurting though, thankfully for us.

[Matt700wlw]

Ryan Howard is ready to shake off the rust.

He may have to wait another day...

[SirFelixCat]

Reds win 7-4. Hamilton, Dunn and EdE carry the team. Lohse gives up 3 over 6IP and the offense carries it today!

[Doc. Scott]

Even without Howard, the Phils can hit- Utley, Burrell, Rollins, Rowand. Their catchers, Ruiz and Barajas, both have power, Helms kills lefties at least, and even Shane Victorino is no terrible slouch. With Howard out, Helms moves to 1B and banjo-man Abraham Nunez is in the lineup. That's just one zero out of eight, whereas the Astros routinely run two out there in Everett and Ausmus.

[Degenerate39]

I'm glad Howard isn't playing

[Doc. Scott]

I'm glad Howard isn't playing

Especially since he's got a strong chance of returning tomorrow, just in time for a certain left-handed non-phenom.

[CTA513]

He's hurting though, thankfully for us.

Whats wrong with him?

[Degenerate39]

Hamilton is now in all of my fantasy baseball teams.

[VR]

Whats wrong with him?

pulled up with a tweaked hammy running to first last night.


Lieber gets lit up tonight, Lohse solid start. No Howard spells doom for the Phils.

[reds44]

What's wrong with Junior?

[Degenerate39]

What's wrong with Junior?

I guess he's still sick.

[GAC]

Lieber has struggled mightily this year.... 0-0 11.57 ERA. Lets hope that continues.

The first two weeks of the season this bullpen was the best in baseball. Last week, the worst. They probably fall somewhere in the middle. What has hurt other teams in the division, such as the Astros, Cards, and Cubs, has been their bullpen. Bullpens go through stretches like this. I'm not going to over react just yet.

As for Jr.... both Hamilton and Hatte had a stomach virus that laid them up for over a week and kept them out of the lineup. That can't happen to Jr? He's out and he's being coddled or it's possibly an ego thing? C'mon. Some never seem to give up.

[Matt700wlw]

Lieber has struggled mightily this year.... 0-0 11.57 ERA. Lets hope that continues.

The first two weeks of the season this bullpen was the best in baseball. Last week, the worst. They probably fall somewhere in the middle. What has hurt other teams in the division, such as the Astros, Cards, and Cubs, has been their bullpen. Bullpens go through stretches like this. I'm not going to over react just yet.

As for Jr.... both Hamilton and Hatte had a stomach virus that laid them up for over a week and kept them out of the lineup. That can't happen to Jr? He's out and he's being coddled or it's possibly an ego thing? C'mon. Some never seem to give up.

As long as Hobbs is in, that's really all that I (or probably at this point, any of us) really care about :)

[GAC]

Ryan Howard out with ligament damage in one of his legs

[Degenerate39]

Cards beat the Cubs 2-1 today

[Matt700wlw]

Bad Boy on the TV!

[TeamEncarnacion]

i8 hope edwin does good tnoight

[GAC]

Phillies BP has been there main sore spot all year.

[GAC]

Chat is open :beerme:

[GAC]

Anyone seen the Arroyo bobblehead commercial with all the various Reds wearing blonde wigs and pretending to be Bronson? Including Narron. Hilarious! :lol:

[WMR]

Anybody got any free radio streams for the game tonight?

[TeamCasey]

Jr has the flu.

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder if Charlie Manuel will challenge any reporters to a fight tonight?

[GAC]

Anybody got any free radio streams for the game tonight?


www.thegamelive.com

[GAC]

I wonder if Charlie Manuel will challenge any reporters to a fight tonight?

That particular talkshow host has been really riding Manuel for over a year. He's lucky Charlie didn't deck him.

[Matt700wlw]

Jimmy Rollins leads the NL with 6 homers.


Josh has 5.

[Degenerate39]

Jimmy flys out to Freel

[WMR]

www.thegamelive.com

WOW! Awesome web site. Thanks GAC. :)

[Degenerate39]

Ground out to Hatte

[WMR]

What's the best website for watching a pitch by pitch gamecast?

[Degenerate39]

Utley strikes out swinging 3 outs

[Matt700wlw]

Good start!

[RedsMan3203]

Chat is open :beerme:

:beerme:


Its better then the game threads.... :devil:

[reds44]

It makes me scratch my head how Loshe doesn't pitch well all the time.

Please tell me he is figuring it out.

[GAC]

What's the best website for watching a pitch by pitch gamecast?


I go with either ESPN Game cast or CBS Sportsline

[Topcat]

Nice healthy first by Lohse and I loved the way he was aggressive.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn's going yard today

[Degenerate39]

Freel flys out to center

[Degenerate39]

Dunn lines out to Utley 2 outs

[Degenerate39]

BP strikes out

[Matt700wlw]

I guess we have to wait....

[Degenerate39]

Single to 3rd

[Degenerate39]

Another strikeout for Lohse

[flyer85]

With that improved changeup Lohse really has some good stuff

[Matt700wlw]

Marty getting on Jeff about calling the Reds "our" and "we"

:laugh:

[Matt700wlw]

This ump has a small strike zone

[OnBaseMachine]

Wow. That was strike three on Nunez.

[Degenerate39]

Edwin almost screwed up there but he gets the runner at 1st anyway 3 outs

[Matt700wlw]

Gather around your radio and TV, all...

[reds44]

Good job by EE getting in front of the ball and staying with it.

[Degenerate39]

Hamilton grounds out to Utley

[OnBaseMachine]

Hamilton out on the first pitch. This team swings at way too many first pitches. The Philles bullpen sucks, so why not make Leiber work? And now EdE gets ahead 2-0 and then tries to pull an away fastball.

[Matt700wlw]

Stupid commercials...didn't even get Hamilton's at bat on the air

[reds44]

Don't like first pitch swinging.

[Degenerate39]

Edwin grounds out to 3rd

[reds44]

I'm starting to worry about EE. Bad 2-0 swing.

[edabbs44]

I'm starting to worry about EE. Bad 2-0 swing.

Starting?

[Matt700wlw]

I'm starting to worry about EE. Bad 2-0 swing.

Mark Shelton will have an article about him tomorrow...

[reds44]

Mark Shelton will have an article about him tomorrow...
What about him?

[Matt700wlw]

What about him?

His struggles.

[Degenerate39]

Hatte grounds out to 2nd

[reds44]

His struggles.
What about his struggles?

[Matt700wlw]

What about his struggles?

I don't know....it'll be out tomorrow.

I guess he talked to him

[GAC]

So what that he has struggled early on in the season. it's not like its a first for a professional ballplayer. It's 16 games. If he has the ability/talent to begin with, then he'll be fine. All ballplayers slump. He'll come out of it IMO as long as he can handle the mental aspect of a slump, and not let it drag him down.

[Matt700wlw]

There's a few oddballs in the crowd tonight...

[Degenerate39]

Pop up to BP 1 out

[reds44]

I don't know....it'll be out tomorrow.

I guess he talked to him
What about talking to him?

Ok, that one was for fun. :p:

I'm done know.

[Degenerate39]

3 strikeouts for Lohse after that AB

[WMR]

Brantley: Why would you like it for Jimmy Rollins to "bring it everyday" if you're the opposing manager? That's dumb.

[WMR]

Wow... Brantley is painful to listen to on PBP

[WMR]

First time I've heard him

[Degenerate39]

Rollins singles to right

[Matt700wlw]

Wow... Brantley is painful to listen to on PBP

He's getting better. You have to remember, he's never had to do PBP before.

[Degenerate39]

Fly out to Freel. 3 outs

[GridironGrace]

WOOOWHOOOO GOO REDS!!

Hello Everyone, Great night for Baseball

[Degenerate39]

Gonzo with a double

[Matt700wlw]

This would be a good time for Ross to break out of his funk

[Tom Servo]

Gonzo with a double
Atleast we don't have to worry about a no-hitter.

[Degenerate39]

Ross strikes out

[Matt700wlw]

Ross looks perplexed

[GAC]

Chat is open

[OnBaseMachine]

Ross swings at two balls and then K's swinging on a pitch on the corner. Man he is terrible.

[Degenerate39]

Lohse flys out to right

[Tom Servo]

I blame Ross' skid on his offseason newborn. Way to screw up your daddy's game by having to be born. :thumbdown




;)

[Matt700wlw]

Wasted that double

[GridironGrace]

Ross swings at two balls and then K's swinging on a pitch on the corner. Man he is terrible.


LOL total oppisite of 1 year ago ;( , I dunno whats up with Ross but he needs to figure it out.. we need the 06 Ross :(

[Degenerate39]

Freel grounds out 3 outs

[WMR]

He's getting better. You have to remember, he's never had to do PBP before.

Matt, honestly I think it's more the cadence and tone of his voice than anything else... things that probably won't change that much. He's just so much better suited to commentary it isn't even funny.

[GridironGrace]

Wait I know what Ross needs!! He needs to come in off the Bench for about a week so he can find that Pinch Hitting Magic he had last season and get his confidence back up :)

[Tom Servo]

Wasted that double
Not really much of a suprise though, was it?

[Matt700wlw]

That is one wicked change-up

[Matt700wlw]

Not really much of a suprise though, was it?

Par for the course more often than not.

[GridironGrace]

Not really much of a suprise though, was it?

Wasnt to me, not with the 8,9 due up...

however, he's right, if you cant drive one on the Ground to the 1B side.. to move that runner to 3B with 1 out.. you should lay down a bunt. I mean even the SP Loshe hit it the right direction and made contact lol

[OnBaseMachine]

Bailey: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

[Degenerate39]

Burrell walks

[Degenerate39]

Helms singles to left

[Matt700wlw]

Could use a pitchers best friend now...

[GridironGrace]

Bailey: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

How's his stats on the season down there?? Havent Really had the time to keep up with Bailey.. ERA? W-L? Overall is he doing what they expect?

[Matt700wlw]

Bailey: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

The temptation begins... :D

[Matt700wlw]

This ump is bugging me...that was strike 3

[OnBaseMachine]

Wow. Where in the hell was that 1-2 pitch to Rowand?

[GridironGrace]

Phew..... burrell didnt go lol

Lets Go Loshe

[OnBaseMachine]

Great doubleplay!

[Degenerate39]

Damn that was a nice play by BP!

[Matt700wlw]

Wow! What a play!

[GridironGrace]

Wooowhooooooooo!!!!!!

[reds44]

WOW what a play by Phillips!!!!!!!!

WOW
WOW
WOW

[cincy09]

Now we need to put some runs on the scoreboard!

[Topcat]

way to pick Lohse up guys. Great pitch to. Ps. the umps a squeezin zone idiot.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn, Phillips, Hamilton due up.

Potential for runs.

[MrCinatit]

A trend I have been noticing - and perhaps it is just me.
It seems that in situations where the other team is threatening, our pitchers will get ahead of the next batter. But then that next batter will hang in there, keep battling, keep fouling off pitches until getting the right ball to hit. Seems like it happened a lot against Houston, where their hitters were waiting for the right pitches - and usually getting one. Some of the opposing ABs have seemed epic.
And, usually it seems our guys obligue by eventually grooving a pitch.
Meanwhile, our guys just seem to be getting those types of at bats against the other teams...we go down way too quickly.




oh, and a highlight reel play by Phillips. Wow.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn's in one of those really frustrating funks

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn K's swinging on a bad pitch. How many times have we said that lately?

[Degenerate39]

Dunn strikes out

[TheBigLebowski]

Absolutely shocking. Dunn k's.

[CTA513]

Someone tell Dunn he doesnt need to switch bats every at bat.

[OnBaseMachine]

Someone tell the Reds offense that Jon Lieber isn't very good now.

[Matt700wlw]

Lieber fears Josh ;)

[Matt700wlw]

He wanted nothing to do with him

[Degenerate39]

Hamilton walks

[George Foster]

that was the phillies treating Josh like Bonds to get to EE...

[Degenerate39]

Edwin flys out to left

[Matt700wlw]

Encarnacion may never get a hit again

[OnBaseMachine]

Four pitch walk to Hamilton and then EdE follows by swinging at the first pitch (borderline) and flying out to Burrell.

[forfreelin04]

With EdE hitting behind him, he's just being smart

[reds44]

oy vey

[Matt700wlw]

that was the phillies treating Josh like Bonds to get to EE...

I wish there was somebody who could more fear into a pitcher behind Josh...EE can be that guy, but right now he's just the opposite

[WMR]

Four pitch walk to Hamilton and then EdE follows by swinging at the first pitch (borderline) and flying out to Burrell.

That's about as criminal of an AB as you can have as a big leaguer.

Especially if you plan on remaining a big leaguer.

[TheBigLebowski]

It remains my opinion that EE needs some AAA time. ASAP. He's lost.

[George Foster]

A trend I have been noticing - and perhaps it is just me.
It seems that in situations where the other team is threatening, our pitchers will get ahead of the next batter. But then that next batter will hang in there, keep battling, keep fouling off pitches until getting the right ball to hit. Seems like it happened a lot against Houston, where their hitters were waiting for the right pitches - and usually getting one. Some of the opposing ABs have seemed epic.
And, usually it seems our guys obligue by eventually grooving a pitch.
Meanwhile, our guys just seem to be getting those types of at bats against the other teams...we go down way too quickly.




oh, and a highlight reel play by Phillips. Wow.

Exactly....this team does not throw inside...EVER....you get up 0-2...you knock the guy down the next pitch then you throw an outside stike.....AKA
Mario Soto:thumbup:

[Degenerate39]

Single to center

[Matt700wlw]

Exactly....this team does not throw inside...EVER....you get up 0-2...you knock the guy down the next pitch then you throw an outside stike.....AKA
Mario Soto:thumbup:

Homer will.

[Tom Servo]

This series could go very badly if we don't win tonight. Hamels vs. Milton is a mismatch of epic proportions and García's 2-0 with a 2.25 ERA in 2 career starts against the Reds.

[GridironGrace]

Yea EE and Ross need to fix thier stuff.

[Matt700wlw]

Tomorrow is Bring you Glove to the Park night

[TheBigLebowski]

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/2006/07/25/W4P3xmqP.jpg

stars in this week's all new...

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/tv/lost4.jpg

[George Foster]

That's about as criminal of an AB as you can have as a big leaguer.

Especially if you plan on remaining a big leaguer.

He has only walked 7 all year. That was not control problems...that was pitching around Hamilton to get to EE.

[Degenerate39]

Grotesque

[keeganbrick]

:help: US

[OnBaseMachine]

LOL, our defense is comical. This is the 2006 Reds all over again. Hatteberg botched an easy doubleplay. This team stinks in all facets of the game.

[George Foster]

that was a double play ball....welcome to little league!:laugh:

[Matt700wlw]

Well, that was awful.

[Matt700wlw]

Marty's all bent out of shape :laugh:

[GridironGrace]

Why hatte why ??? Why Phillips why?? You had just made a SWEET PLAY.. why why why why why why why why.

Every play doesnt have to be a Highlight Reel play :(

[WMR]

Hamilton is exhibiting the sort of "CORE SKILLS" that should still remain powerful, virile additions to his game even if/when his bat cools.

Incredibly impressive.

[George Foster]

we should be out of this inning...:bang:

[Matt700wlw]

Eric the Red to be on the radio in the 6th!

[George Foster]

Marty's all bent out of shape :laugh:

what did he say?

[OnBaseMachine]

This inning would be over if Hatteberg could field a routine groundball.

[SanDiegoRed]

Fundamentally this team is still awful...That has to fall to the manager.

[Degenerate39]

Pop up to Edwin

[GridironGrace]

Edwin and Ross should get with E.Davis and get a copy of that DVD.

"hitting from the heart"

lol

[Matt700wlw]

what did he say?

Ripping the supposed better defense. There's only 2 teams with more errors than the Reds.

"This defense is atrocious"


He's right.

[WMR]

He has only walked 7 all year. That was not control problems...that was pitching around Hamilton to get to EE.

Ahh, K thanks. I still think you should take a pitch after an intentional walk.

I remember reading an article a couple years ago about some study conducted where the majority of first pitches after intentional walks were balls... still, your point defuses my main criticism of EE's approach that AB.

[George Foster]

Hamilton is exhibiting the sort of "CORE SKILLS" that should still remain powerful, virile additions to his game even if/when his bat cools.

Incredibly impressive.

He is our best outfielder...period.

[Matt700wlw]

He is our best outfielder...period.

He might be their best player.

I'm serious.

[KronoRed]

Marty's all bent out of shape :laugh:

Has been since the 2nd when beat writer guy was late ;)

MrsK wanted to hear the game, only reason I broke my no Reds on radio this year promise :devil:

[SanDiegoRed]

Hey cool! 6 years here and I am up to 65 Rep points!

[Matt700wlw]

Has been since the 2nd when beat writer guy was late ;)

He was just giving him crap....laughing about it off the air

[George Foster]

Ahh, K thanks. I still think you should take a pitch after an intentional walk.

I remember reading an article a couple years ago about some study conducted where the majority of first pitches after intentional walks were balls... still, your point defuses my main criticism of EE's approach that AB.

I agree with what you are saying, if the guy has a history of control problems, but "L" has some of the best control in the NL. Why get down 0-1, if the scouting report says he leads off most of the time with a fastball?

[SanDiegoRed]

Nice Job by Lohse

[GAC]

This inning would be over if Hatteberg could field a routine groundball.

That ball was not routine. It was blistered and to his inside along the baseline.

[GridironGrace]

Gameday says its an Earned run
Marty says its unearned.. which it should be lol


Way to take care of it Lohse... thats a good sign, being able to rebound like that after the Defense makes u pitch longer lol

[Matt700wlw]

Great pitching by Lohse!!

:clap:

[Tom Servo]

Lohse pitching quite good, too bad I can't help but think he'll take the L due to bad defense and a complete lack of offense.

[OnBaseMachine]

That ball was not routine. It was blistered and to his inside along the baseline.

A play that a major league 1B should make.

[WMR]

I agree with what you are saying, if the guy has a history of control problems, but "L" has some of the best control in the NL. Why get down 0-1, if the scouting report says he leads off most of the time with a fastball?

Yep, true, if the pitcher you are facing throws a high percentage of first pitch strikes, looking to swing right away is the correct approach.

[George Foster]

Hey cool! 6 years here and I am up to 65 Rep points!


you don't have over 400 posts....your doing about average.:D

[Degenerate39]

Hey cool! 6 years here and I am up to 65 Rep points!

Looks like you just went up 15 points in a matter of seconds

[OnBaseMachine]

Gameday says its an Earned run
Marty says its unearned.. which it should be lol


Way to take care of it Lohse... thats a good sign, being able to rebound like that after the Defense makes u pitch longer lol

That run is unearned.

[SanDiegoRed]

This offense minus Hamilton is totally in a funk...

[George Foster]

A play that a major league 1B should make.

Especially when you are holding the runner on 1st...it bounced twice.

[Matt700wlw]

Reds being 1 hit by Lieber....again.

:help:

[WMR]

The sweetest, funniest part of the Josh Hamilton saga?

Who we got him from.

The scrubbies.

Hehehe... LOL I hate the scrubbies so much, good thing their roster is so badass they didn't need drek like Hamilton clogging up the pipelines.

[SanDiegoRed]

George Foster...I am the type who when he has nothing to say, does just that...I keep my mouth shut!

[reds44]

Jon Lieber pwns us.

[Tom Servo]

Jon Lieber pwns us.
Jon Lieber laughs at our puny Cincinnati Reds.

[GAC]

A play that a major league 1B should make.

I think you're being a little harsh on Hatte. Last year, at 1B, Hatte didn't commit an error in 100g from 5/6-9/23, a career high and the longest errorless streak by any Major League first baseman since TB's Travis Lee in 2003 (121g).

[TheBigLebowski]

This offense is so bad...it's embarrassing.

[George Foster]

I'd say that the over and under for total runs scored in this series is about 16.

I'd take the under.

[TheBigLebowski]

Single or walk here would be big.

[OnBaseMachine]

Jon Lieber pwns us.

Yep, and he also owns us. ;)

[Matt700wlw]

David Ross needs to use one of those big fat red whiffle ball bats.....

[SanDiegoRed]

What is the opinion on what could be done to shake up this putrid offense?

[OnBaseMachine]

David Ross couldn't have hit that pitch with an ironing board.

[KronoRed]

What is the opinion on what could be done to shake up this putrid offense?

Electro shock.

[WMR]

George Foster...I am the type who when he has nothing to say, does just that...I keep my mouth shut!

Discretion is the better part of wit.

[keeganbrick]

Ross is off da chain.

[reds44]

David Ross is hitting worse then EE, and that's saying something.

I mean really. It's saying ALOT.

[flyer85]

This offense is so bad...it's embarrassing.they do have a hit

[TheBigLebowski]

K..that's enough for me. Not going to let the Reds ruin my Friday night the same way they did Wed and Thurs.

Those who choose to torture themselves...enjoy.

[Matt700wlw]

K..that's enough for me. Not going to let the Reds ruin my Friday night the same way they did Wed and Thurs.

Those who choose to torture themselves...enjoy.


We live for this

[Tom Servo]

What is the opinion on what could be done to shake up this putrid offense?
I'm thinking a lineup of something like this:

Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Pitcher

[Matt700wlw]

Eric the Red!

[Matt700wlw]

I'm thinking a lineup of something like this:

Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Pitcher

Hamilton can pitch. Could have been scouted at a pitcher....topped out at 97.

[WMR]

Electro shock.

http://english.pravda.ru/img/2005/11/electric_chair.jpg

[alloverjr]

I'm thinking a lineup of something like this:

Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Pitcher

Can't he pitch? Deno would have.

[SanDiegoRed]

The last two nights were very painful...Tonight is shaping up the same way...

[reds44]

I seriously think Norris Hopper needs a start. He's going to put the ball in play and he is fast.

Good things happen when you are fast and put the ball in play.

[Tom Servo]

Hamilton can pitch.
I thought about it, but I figured Arroyo, Harang, Lohse, and Belisle would all have a few wins each with that lineup. Milty would probably still be 0-2 though.

[WMR]

I seriously think Norris Hopper needs a start. He's going to put the ball in play and he is fast.

Good things happen when you are fast and put the ball in play.

Juan Pierre says hi.

[George Foster]

How ironic would it be if Lohse were to lose this game 1-0 after that Chicago game on Sunday...baseball is harsh.

[Matt700wlw]

I thought about it, but I figured Arroyo, Harang, Lohse, and Belisle would all have a few wins each with that lineup. Milty would probably still be 0-2 though.

Put Hamilton as the number 5 pitcher

[reds44]

Juan Pierre says hi.
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but if it was

A. Pierre had some good years before sliding off the last few
B. I'm not saying play him everyday all year, but just give him a start or two.


Clearly this ain't working.

[Stingray]

I'm thinking a lineup of something like this:

Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Hamilton
Pitcher



Wrong - hamilton should also pitch

[Eric_Davis]

We're going to have to win this with our bullpen.

Let's go guys. Step it up.

Need to win the first game of this series.

[GAC]

We're going to have to win this with our bullpen.

:bowrofl:

[Matt700wlw]

http://www.ustravelphotos.com/Kentucky/thumbs/KY3Big_Bat_small.jpg

David Ross's new bat

[OnBaseMachine]

FWIW, I agree with the move to leave Lohse in for the 7th. Too bad Arroyo wasn't kept in last night for the 8th.

[Degenerate39]

I'm not even paying attention to the game now. I'm just watching for Hamilton

[TeamCasey]

The last two nights were very painful...Tonight is shaping up the same way...

Hi San Diego! Yeah, I think you're one of the folks who's been around awhile, doesn't post a ton and sort of fell threw the cracks. Nice to see you.

[Matt700wlw]

A runner in scoring position!

Pinch me.

[reds44]

We needed that.

[GridironGrace]

In business.....lets get him Home!!!!!

[Eric_Davis]

http://www.ustravelphotos.com/Kentucky/thumbs/KY3Big_Bat_small.jpg

David Ross's new bat

He ought to start taking an hour of batting practice every day using the Hank Aaron method of learning.....using a broom stick to try to hit pop-bottle caps that are being tossed with curves and breaks. In the end, it will make his bat look that big.

[George Foster]

I said on Tuesday night, I thought we were catching the Phillies at a bad time. I'd rather catch a team that has won 8 out of 9 than losing 8-9...law of averages....

[Matt700wlw]

Mark Mallory on the mound for the Phillies

[George Foster]

now Dunn's total approach should change.....just hit the ball in play!

[reds44]

hahahaahahah