Reds v Astros 5/9

[HotCorner]

Reds
Hatteberg 1B
Phillips 2B
Griffey RF
Dunn LF
Gonzalez SS
Hamilton CF
Encarnacion 3B
Ross C
Belisle P

Astros
Biggio 2B
Ensberg 3B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Scott RF
Pence CF
Everett SS
Humbert Quintero C
Williams P

[OesterPoster]

I've lost track. Have we seen this lineup yet this year?

[Razor Shines]

What difference does it make the offense has not been the problem for a while now.

[membengal]

I've lost track. Have we seen this lineup yet this year?

Yes.

[ncman31]

im just wondering, but does every MLB team have such a rotating lineup as the reds do?

[penantboundreds]

Let's one for the home team!

[DannyB]

I would rather see Freel at 1st than Hatteberg leading off.
Oh well I probably will someday.:D

[Reds Fanatic]

Brewers won again this afternoon. So the Reds start tonight 9.5 games back. They have to win tonight to avoid being 10 back already.

[Marc D]

Brewers won again this afternoon. So the Reds start tonight 9.5 games back. They have to win tonight to avoid being 10 back already.

I called 10 back by Mothers day a while back so I'm feeling pretty good about my pick. :(

[danken12]

Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

[CTA513]

Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

Burtons also on his way up.

[Razor Shines]

Milton was sent to DL today :beerme:

Per C trents blog

In all honesty he should go to the DL and he should probably retire. Because he is injured and will probably never be healthy again. People talk about how he used to throw in the mid 90s, and well he's never going to throw that hard again because of his knee. He doesn't even look the same as he used to when pitching and it's because he can't drive toward the plate like he used to. It's too bad but it's the truth.

[Reds Fanatic]

A lot of people in last night's game thread thought he would be headed to the DL and they were right. Left elbow strain is the official injury they are listing for Milton.

[Matt700wlw]

Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

[Reds Fanatic]

Milton's turn would have came up Sunday in LA. Be interesting to see who gets the start.

[Razor Shines]

Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

Either that or they'll make another move before Sunday.

[TRF]

Burton's a reliever....who is the starter?

Is it Saarloos' turn?

I hope not. I'd rather see Livingston or Dumatrait. Just not Bailey. Not yet.

[flyer85]

Burtons also on his way up.I guess someone/everyone in the bullpen is auditioning until Sunday unless Saarloos goes into the rotation.

[Matt700wlw]

Either that or they'll make another move before Sunday.

Bullpen could blow up again (which is likely) and somebody could be bye bye to make room for Burton......and then another starter could come up.

Should be interesting.

[Big Klu]

I kinda like this lineup. I figured that Freel would be getting the night off.

Hatteberg doen't have much speed, but he did a really good job of getting on base the last time he hit lead-off.

I really like Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back. It doesn't bother me that they are both lefties. (Just like it didn't bother Chuck Tanner to hit Dave Parker and Willie Stargell in the #3-4 spots for the Pirates back in the 70's.)

[OesterPoster]

I think Dumatrait is scheduled to pitch tomorrow night for Louisville, so need to keep an eye on if he actually starts that game. Bailey should be pitching Saturday, with Livingston's scheduled start being Sunday for Louisville.

[Jharb74]

Bullpen could blow up again (which is likely) and somebody could be bye bye to make room for Burton......and then another starter could come up.

Should be interesting.

It's almost like we can expect a blow up, again, this way it will hit Krivsky over the head that he has to make a move.

[SirFelixCat]

Go Reds...

And I hope it's not Bailey...not yet.

[Degenerate39]

Go Reds...

And I hope it's not Bailey...not yet.

Yeah, wait till June or so for Bailey.

[Matt700wlw]

Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:

[Marc D]

Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:

and probably 9,000 fewer bets as well

[cumberlandreds]

Adam Dunn needs one more strike out to tie Pete Rose for 4th on the Reds all-time list.


However, Dunn has almost 9,000 fewer at bats. :eek:


Pete would bet that he would go past him tonight. ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Pete would bet that he would go past him tonight. ;)

Most likely :)

[Spring~Fields]

I kinda like this lineup. I figured that Freel would be getting the night off.

Hatteberg doen't have much speed, but he did a really good job of getting on base the last time he hit lead-off.

I really like Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back. It doesn't bother me that they are both lefties. (Just like it didn't bother Chuck Tanner to hit Dave Parker and Willie Stargell in the #3-4 spots for the Pirates back in the 70's.)

I kind of like the lineup to. I think that it will be interesting to see how it does.

[Degenerate39]

Biggio doubles. Griffey with a nice effort to get to that.

[Matt700wlw]

Great effort by Griffey.....

A little slow at getting up, but he appears ok.

[Degenerate39]

Tell me that man doesn't hustle now!

[Cyclone792]

Regarding the lineup ... it isn't exactly how I would set it up given the players starting tonight, but I am glad to see Griffey and Dunn hitting back-to-back in the #3 and #4 slots, especially with the way Griffey's been hitting recently.

[Red in Chicago]

he sure was slow getting up from that play...i hope he's alright, especially since he's been on fire lately...

[Degenerate39]

Ensberg strikes out. 1 out

[Marc D]

Oh God its Berkman

[Degenerate39]

Berkman strikes out. 2 outs

[Marc D]

Nice

[Degenerate39]

Lee grounds out to Edwin. 3 outs.

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Nice. Love the way Belisle is attacking hitters. Three cheers for first pitch strikes.

[Marc D]

Great job by Belisle. There was some filthieness to some of those pitches.

[Degenerate39]

Hatte singles to left.

[jesusfan]

Hatte singles...

[reds44]

No complaint about the lineup. Griffey and Dunn 3/4 and both Hamilton and Edwin in there.

I wish BP was hitting lower though.

[Hoosier Red]

No complaint about the lineup. Griffey and Dunn 3/4 and both Hamilton and Edwin in there.

I wish BP was hitting lower though.

Well no complaint lasted a line anyway.

[jesusfan]

I really do like this line-up...

[Degenerate39]

BP singles to left.

[jesusfan]

BP singles to left... nearly got by Lee... C'mon Griffey!

[Degenerate39]

I really do like this line-up...

It helps when Woody is pitching

[jesusfan]

crap... nearly a 3-run shot...

[jesusfan]

wow... now Griffey misses a 3-run shot to right...

[Matt700wlw]

Griffey is swinging the ball flawlessly right now...what a swing!

[jesusfan]

Great AB for Griffey right here...

[jesusfan]

Griffey K's...

[Degenerate39]

Griffey strikes out 1 out

[jesusfan]

Dunn looking fastball right there..

[paintmered]

Let's limit the play-by-play to a single poster.

[Red in Chicago]

Griffey is swinging the ball flawlessly right now...what a swing!

swinging the ball;)

[Matt700wlw]

swinging the ball;)

Yeah, that too....

[jesusfan]

Dunn just misses the 3 run-shot to center... Runners advance, 2nd and 3rd w/ Gonzo up...

[Marc D]

Dunner is strong like bull

[Matt700wlw]

Woody's fastball just hit 81...

That's Milton-esque.

[Razor Shines]

I kinda hope Gonzo walks here.

[jesusfan]

3-1... I'd love Hamilton vs Woody w/ the bases jacked...

[Razor Shines]

Woody's fastball just hit 81...

That's Milton-esque.

That was a change up, but his best it 88-89 and that's Milton-esque.

[Matt700wlw]

That was a change up, but his best it 88-89 and that's Milton-esque.

That's no better :D

[jesusfan]

Gonzo walks... surprisingly, Woody wanted no part of Gonzo, I guess Ham-bone will have to make him pay!

[Matt700wlw]

Hello, Josh. :)

[jesusfan]

good play by Everett to strand 3... shew

[Matt700wlw]

Why did he swing at the first pitch? Woody's been all over the place.


Bad Josh :nono:

[Razor Shines]

Swung at a first pitch breaking ball. I have no problem with him swinging first pitch if it's pitch that he can drive, I don't think that was it.

[chisdad]

Take a pitch!!!!!!:bang:

[jesusfan]

Swung at a first pitch breaking ball. I have no problem with him swinging first pitch if it's pitch that he can drive, I don't think that was it.

young and eager... he'll learn...

[Red in Chicago]

well woody's on barrowed time already...they'll get him

[Matt700wlw]

young and eager... he'll learn...

Not worried. :)

[Razor Shines]

Not worried. :)

Not even close to worried about him.

[Marc D]

CW back to preaching his bunt your way on gosphel

[jesusfan]

Not even close to worried about him.

nope, if I had to pick 2 players in this organization to build around it would be Hamilton and Bailey...

[Marc D]

Wow!!!!!

[jesusfan]

great try by Gonzo... infield single.

[Red in Chicago]

WOW...gonzo

[Degenerate39]

That play was something else

[Matt700wlw]

That was an amazing play...safe or not.

[Marc D]

He nails a slow runner on that play!

Amazing!!

[reds44]

How did he do that?

[VR]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

[reds44]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.
:eek:

[Degenerate39]

How did he do that?

He's Superman

[jesusfan]

Belisle blows 95 right by Quintero...

[Razor Shines]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Speaking of Superman.

[Handofdeath]

young and eager... he'll learn...

Not on this ballclub.

[Degenerate39]

Davey Ross

[reds44]

Hit it hard.

[Marc D]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Thats unreal

[CTA513]

Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

[RedsFanWC]

Ross is sneaking up on EE's avg

[RedRage]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.

[Razor Shines]

Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

Well I think we knew he wasn't going to be as terrible as he started out but I don't think he's going to be as good as he was the first half of last year either.

[Fullboat]

Ross up to .210 AVG and so far is hitting .280 this month in 25 ABs.

Ross is showing more patience at the plate,EE should take note.

[Fullboat]

Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.


When your that accurate IIB's are not your problem.

[Marc D]

Jeez. That probably counts intentional walks too.


We've had guys that go to 3-0 on more than 18 hitters in a game.

[Matt700wlw]

Tom Browning and Doug Flynn in the house

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle's first meeting against Houston this season....

[Marc D]

GG and Biggio's hunt for 3000

[homer]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

He must be drunk or blind.

292 PA's at 3-0, 275 BB.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=maddugr01

[Patrick Bateman]

Marty just brings up a stat that in Greg Maddux' career....he went 3-0 on a TOTAL of 18 hitters. Yikes.

Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice throw, EE :rolleyes:

5th error of the season.

[Degenerate39]

Edwin Edwin Edwin

[KYRed]

Ouch EE, that one hurts bud.

[Matt700wlw]

Thanks, Edwin.

2-0 Astros

[Red in Chicago]

who didn't see that coming...oy vey

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

No one pays for errors and extra outs quite like this team. :bang:

[Degenerate39]

This inning should've been over. It should still be 0-0. Thanks Edwin

[paintmered]

Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

In Marty's defense, he isn't the first one to quote the "18 batters" line the last few days.

I forget where it started, but I've heard it from a few sources already.

[RedsFanWC]

Not sure how Edwin is helping this team right now

[Marc D]

Berkman again.

This is crazy. Drill him for Gods sake.

[Razor Shines]

Marty is an idiot.

Since 2002, he's gone 3-0 on 63 hitters.

It looks like there were 17 ABs were he went 3-0, so that means only 17 of the 292 PAs he didn't walk. Probably got confused, or whoever gave him that stat did.

[VR]

He must be drunk or blind.

292 PA's at 3-0, 275 BB.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=maddugr01


Doesn't include IBBs

[jimbo]

Marty is an idiot.


These comments are getting old. According to redszoners, everyone in the baseball world are idiots.......except redszoners. :rolleyes:

[Aronchis]

You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

[homer]

Doesn't include IBBs

An IBB is a BB.

[Red in Chicago]

everyone remember bowa calling concepcion elmer? well, i think we've got a new elmer:p:

[Degenerate39]

These comments are getting old. According to redszoners, everyone in the baseball world are idiots.......except redszoners. :rolleyes:

What's your point?

:laugh:

[jimbo]

I'm really starting to have some doubts about Edwin.

[GOREDSGO32]

LOL. I knew when EE picked up that ball, it was an error. And I knew once it was an error the next batter was going. Wow what a team. :bang:

[jimbo]

What's your point?

:laugh:

Let me get back with on you that. :D

[ochoa30]

Im just not sure edwin has the mental capacity to get better. He seems like a baby. i like the kid but sometimes talent just isnt enough.

[Razor Shines]

LOL. I knew when EE picked up that ball, it was an error. And I knew once it was an error the next batter was going. Wow what a team. :bang:

What's going to happen this inning? Why do watch the game if you know what's going to happen?

[KYRed]

That was really nice of the Reds to help Berkman come out of his season long slump. I would say he'd end up with 80 if he played his home games in GABP, but he wouldn't get to hit against Reds pitching in that case.

[WMR]

GG and Biggio's hunt for 3000

Good one!

GG is certainly "EFFORTING." :rolleyes:

jeez he is so lameeee. :bang:

[paintmered]

You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

Projected pythagorean records:

Reds: 84-76
Nats: 42-120

[Matt700wlw]

You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.



Doesn't give up a 2 run HR if he's in the dugout and the inning is over.

[VR]

You don't give up a homer on the following pitch. Blame Belisle.

Reds may challenge the Nats for baseballs worst team.

It was the second pitch if that matters

[Matt700wlw]

Triple!

[Razor Shines]

Hey GOREDS why didn't you tell me BP was going to triple?

[Marc D]

Dunner tells BP he lives out there(deep center) BP was only visiting.

[GOREDSGO32]

What's going to happen this inning? Why do watch the game if you know what's going to happen?

Reds will score 1.

[UC_Ken]

I think Berkman just moved into a tie with Oswalt on the "Guys who Kill the Reds" rankings. At least until we play Milwaukee again.

[VR]

I can't wait until BP gets put in the 5 or 6 spot where he belongs.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn is up with a runner at third an 1 out....

[WMR]

http://www.bookitentertainment.com/images/large_photos/johnny_carson.jpg

"A homer, A gomer, and a Zoner"

Lance Berkman, Edwin Encarnacion, and GoReds

[Matt700wlw]

:dunn:

:jump:

That was better!!!

[KYRed]

Tie game, thank you Dunn.

[Razor Shines]

Reds will score 1.

You might want to take your crystal ball in to get it looked at.

[Degenerate39]

Dunn homers!

[GOREDSGO32]

Thank you Dunn + Phillips. I knew you were on my fantasy team for a reason!

[Puffy]

Junior smoked that ball - too bad it was right at Biggio. Up to Dunner and Gonzalez

[MrCinatit]

And once again, Dunn fails to get a sacrifice fly :p:

[ThatPitchIsDunn]

Hey! We figured out we're up against Woody Williams!

Dragnet to right. Dunn-da-Dunn-Dunn-DUNNNNNNNNN :thumbup:

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn leads the team with Home Runs and RBIs!

[GOREDSGO32]

You might want to take your crystal ball in to get it looked at.

1 and greater.

[RedsFanWC]

Thats why Dunner doesnt have sac flies, when he hits the ball in the air it generally goes a long way

[Degenerate39]

Dunn leads the team with Home Runs and RBIs!

How many homers is that for him 10?

[flyer85]

can't hit a sac fly to save his life.

BTW, did anyone else notice he choked up about an inch with two strikes

[VR]

It would be nice to throttle and get deep into the pen with a day game tomorrow.
Hammer this guy.

[The_jbh]

I'd give the world to acquire Berkman... i think hed hit 80 HRs in this park... :laugh:

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 208
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Vada Pinson - 186
10. Wally Post - 172
11. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 170
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[Matt700wlw]

How many homers is that for him 10?

Yes. 20 something RBIs....

[CTA513]

can't hit a sac fly to save his life.

BTW, did anyone else notice he choked up about an inch with two strikes


Thats what I was coming on here to ask.
I thought he either was choking up or taking some weird swings.

[penantboundreds]

I saw a stat the other day of pitches seen per at bat for the Reds hitters and Hamilton was one of the lowest on it. What has happened since ST? Just wondering....any views?

[Hoosier Red]

Thats why Dunner doesnt have sac flies, when he hits the ball in the air it generally goes a long way

See quote from Jerry Narron on sig line.

[Matt700wlw]

For what it's worth, Josh is batting .409 with 3HRs swinging at the first pitch.

[WMR]

How can you lead a team in RBI but not be a run producer?

[penantboundreds]

I might appreciate Miley ::cough cough:: Narron, getting kicked out once and a while, this team gets crap calls.

[flyer85]

everyone remember bowa calling concepcion elmer? well, i think we've got a new elmer:p:Bowa asked Davey if his first name was Elmer. Davey said "no" and Bowa responded that thoughtDavey had changed to Elmer because he alway saw E Concepcion in the paper. Davey was not amused.

[Hoosier Red]

I'd give the world to acquire Berkman... i think hed hit 80 HRs in this park... :laugh:

Yeah but taking out the Reds pitching, he'd be hard pressed to hit 10.

[RedRage]

lol

[penantboundreds]

I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?

Post Script --- Jr. is no longer a free swinger.

[Matt700wlw]

Yes. 20 something RBIs....

10 HRS, 21 RBIs

[reds44]

How long until Edwin finds himself in AAA? I'm not hoping for it, but it would be hard to argue with at this point.

[penantboundreds]

Did we really pay money to get Milton's arm MRI'ed? They are expensive and he just sucks, we know why he's hurt.

[Degenerate39]

How long until Edwin finds himself in AAA? I'm not hoping for it, but it would be hard to argue with at this point.

I'll say never. Who can take his place besides Freel?

[paintmered]

I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?

Post Script --- Jr. is no longer a free swinger.

Part of his mini-slide a few weeks ago corresponded with shorter ABs. As with most hitters, with patience comes rakeage.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm not putting down Hamitlon Matt, to the contrary actually, he gets his cuts in, but don't you remember in ST how much he walked/looked at pitches?



I do and I loved it....when he didn't get a hit, or had an 0fer, he still got walks and got on base.

Not as much now...but like anything else, he has to adjust.

[Degenerate39]

I like this Pence kid

[reds44]

I'll say never. Who can take his place besides Freel?
I really hope you're right. I just invision Keppinger being called up for him.

[RedsFanWC]

Anyone know Belisle's contract status? How many more years do the Reds have his rights?

[GOREDSGO32]

Way to go EE.

[Degenerate39]

Another one by Edwin goodness

[Matt700wlw]

Edwin again...

Should have held onto the ball after he dropped it.

[GOREDSGO32]

Here comes another HR

[reds44]

Oh man.

[Matt700wlw]

Close play at second....but a good call.

[Dunner44]

Is freel going to up to the plate in the bottom of the 4th?

[George Foster]

2out....get the batter and there is no harm

[Matt700wlw]

Houston gets to turn the batting order over now next inning...

[Red in Chicago]

it was a hard hit ball, but why not hold onto it? will elmer ever learn?

[GOREDSGO32]

Woody's driving them in

[VR]

I'm not a fan of walking Humberto Quintero.

[KYRed]

Talk about comedy hour, this is pitiful.

[Degenerate39]

Thank you Edwin

[GOREDSGO32]

Knew it ... way to go defense.

[penantboundreds]

We are no good. Absolutely not.

[Matt700wlw]

Wow.

Error on Hamilton as well.....which I don't think we'll see much of.

[keeganbrick]

Cool Woody

[Dunner44]

Ok Reds, you walk the catcher to get to the pitcher, now do what you're supposed to do to the pitcher... humilate him. I've seen the opposing pitcher get far too many hits this year in RBI situations.

[George Foster]

wow....:bang:

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle already at 73 pitches

[Dunner44]

That's it, I'm done for the night... time to go back to writing papers.

[reds44]

"Nice job Josh."

[Matt700wlw]

27 errors on the year for the Reds, which is the second most in the NL


Pitching and defense, baby! Catch the fever!!

[homer]

Ok Reds, you walk the catcher to get to the pitcher, now do what you're supposed to do to the pitcher... humilate him. I've seen the opposing pitcher get far too many hits this year in RBI situations.

Woody swings the bat well, and Belisle is working up in the zone. Bad combination.

[Falls City Beer]

Fun.

[CTA513]

Belisle is getting the defense that Milton usually gets.

[keeganbrick]

That's it, I'm done for the night... time to go back to writing papers.

Anything but that.:bang:

[VR]

Humberto Quintero had the same amount of career homers and half as many career RBI's as WW.

[Aronchis]

The Reds may struggle badly against teams with good pitching. They have been facing some weak staffs lately that have made the offense look better than it really is.

Losses will pile up.

[Fullboat]

I think its time for a team meeting.

[George Foster]

just 1 run scored...Narron should be clapping getting his team to forget about that inning.

[Spring~Fields]

27 errors on the year for the Reds, which is the second most in the NL


Pitching and defense, baby! Catch the fever!!

"Playing the game the right way" ..........I hope I never hear those words again.

[penantboundreds]

Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

[Kc61]

The Reds starters must be burning. The bullpen messes them up constantly. Now EE has just completely messed up this start by Belisle. Guy is pitching well, but he needs to get four outs every inning that a ball is hit to third.

What a turnaround. Used to be that the starting pitching hurt the Reds game after game. Now the starters need to claim nonsupport.

[GOREDSGO32]

I figured EE would make up for it, good job.

[Fullboat]

Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

Torre=$$

[Razor Shines]

Can we get Joe Torre when the Yankees get rid of him?

The Yankees won't be getting rid of Torre as long as Clemens wants to pitch in NY.

[Matt700wlw]

I figured EE would make up for it, good job.

He hit a 3 run HR? I missed that... :p:

[paintmered]

The Reds may struggle badly against teams with good pitching. They have been facing some weak staffs lately that have made the offense look better than it really is.

Losses will pile up.

http://girlfriday.typepad.com/photos/girl_friday/debbie_downer.jpg

[George Foster]

when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

[Matt700wlw]

The Yankees won't be getting rid of Torre as long as Clemens wants to pitch in NY.

The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

[GOREDSGO32]

He hit a 3 run HR? I missed that... :p:

I didn't think he could pitch either. :mooner:

[Matt700wlw]

I didn't he could pitch either. :mooner:


Maybe he can....they need bullpen help :D

[keeganbrick]

Wont even throw Belisle a fast ball. You pu**ies

[Red in Chicago]

when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

giving the team extra outs, makes the pitcher work harder...it hurts you eventually

[VR]

Torre=$$


Not sure what the thrill w/ Joe is....if you can't win with that talent,,,

[Kc61]

when we got a very young 3rd baseman, and a guy in center just happy to be alive...errors are going to happen. The second error did not hurt us.

I'm not worried about Hamilton's error. But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.

[Razor Shines]

The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

Well he said he wouldn't have gone to NY if Torre wasn't still the manager. I guess he could be lying though. Not sure why he would in that situation.

[homer]

The reason the Yankees didn't get him last time is because they wouldn't agree to Clemens' agreement that lets him stay home on road trips clause....

That and his BFF didn't play in NY.

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=394732

[George Foster]

the best way to get a pitcher out...a steady diet of breaking balls...take notes red pitchers

[Matt700wlw]

Wont even throw Belisle a fast ball. You pu**ies

Why did you call them puppies? :D

[reds44]

I'm not worried about Hamilton's error. But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.
First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

[jimbo]

But EE just continues to have throwing problems and has had them since he joined the team. You wonder if he just can't play third because he can't throw consistently to first.

I think the majority of EE's problems are in his head.

[Matt700wlw]

That and his BFF didn't play in NY.

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=394732

I'm sure that was a factor....that and he lives in Houston.

[Big Klu]

Well he said he wouldn't have gone to NY if Torre wasn't still the manager. I guess he could be lying though. Not sure why he would in that situation.

I can think of 28,000,000 reasons.

[Alkie]

Not sure what the thrill w/ Joe is....if you can't win with that talent,,,

Yeah, I don't either. Joe wasn't thought of as a great manager before he took over a team with an outrageous budget. Even then, he hasn't found a way to lead that team to a WS title in what will be the 7th straight year this year.

You guys can do better.

Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

[Matt700wlw]

First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

Marty's said that for a couple years now, and has gotten absolutely crucified for it.

[Spring~Fields]

First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

I said that last year, that he should be moved to first. Everyone wet themselves. :devil:

Now they have him all out of wack fielding, throwing and hitting.

[Razor Shines]

I can think of 28,000,000 reasons.

He said that after he signed. They asked him "if Joe Torre was fired last week would that have made things different?" He said "I wouldn't be a Yankee that's for sure." And he's always said how much he loves Joe Torre even before he signed with them. He would have got his 28 mil from Houston or Boston anyway.

[George Foster]

Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

under that logic, a manager is never the problem, because they don't play.

[Aronchis]

I said that last year, that he should be moved to first. Everyone wet themselves. :devil:

Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

[Degenerate39]

First base could be in his near future.

Or RF when Griffey is traded at the deadline.

Griffey stays in Cincy

[Eric_Davis]

With 3 errors so far today putting our total at 27 we fly past the Dodgers who have 25 errors, and now have only to catch those defensive-minded Washington Nationals, who have 31, which includes the one they had today.

Maybe we'll catch them before the night is done.

[reds44]

Marty's said that for a couple years now, and has gotten absolutely crucified for it.
Good for Marty.

May he got something right for once. That'll be a rare feat.

Btw, Adam Dunn's not a run producer. :rolleyes:

[Razor Shines]

Yeah, I don't either. Joe wasn't thought of as a great manager before he took over a team with an outrageous budget. Even then, he hasn't found a way to lead that team to a WS title in what will be the 7th straight year this year.

You guys can do better.

Narron isn't your problem anyway. He isn't committing the errors or blowing up in the 7th-9th innings.

They don't have any pitching either. Torre isn't making decisions on signing, I'm pretty sure the Big Man does most of that.

[reds44]

Griffey stays in Cincy
Only if he gets hurt.

[VR]

Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

He's got a great glove....lousy arm.
I'm convinced it's mostly poor mechanics. He's got an awful hitch and loop in that toss./

[keeganbrick]

I think Griff will be an All-Star this year though.

[Spring~Fields]

Because he isn't a 1st baseman. Nor a RF. He is a 3rd baseman. Except that reality and move on.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[VR]

Belisle is a different pitcher this year, very refreshing.

[Matt700wlw]

Good for Marty.

May he got something right for once. That'll be a rare feat.

:

Yeah, ok.

[Aronchis]

He's got a great glove....lousy arm.
I'm convinced it's mostly poor mechanics. He's got an awful hitch and loop in that toss./

Hardly surprising at his age. Typically, his bat would more than make up for it but he has been struggling at the plate as well.

I think people need patience.