6/1/07 Reds vs Rockies thread

[edabbs44]

Why no thread yet???


Reds Rocks 6.1

DENVER -- Welcome to lovely Coors Field. A nice little walk from the hotel to here. And, well, nothing much of note yet. Will get you the lineups when I get them. Other than that, not too much. Larry Herms said the appeal on Adam Dunn's caught stealing was denied. Herms said he appealed twice. He was denied twice. Well, let's just say Herms has been denied more than twice, but just twice by the official scorer in Houston.

No wireless signal in the clubhouse, so sorry it took a little longer for the lineup

Hopper 8
Hatteberg 3
Griffey 9
Phillips 4
Dunn 7
Gonzalez 6
EE 5
Javy 2
Livingston 1

Colorado Rockies

Taveras 8
Tulowitzki 6
Holliday 7
Helton 3
Baker 5
Hawpe 9
Torrealba 2
Carroll 4
Buchholz 1

[jesusfan]

EE needs another 4-4 night and Narron might move him up.... might..

[Big Klu]

Now for my daily rant....

Overall, not the worst possible lineup. I'm OK with Hopper leading off while he is hot (he reached base nine times in the three games at Houston). I am starting to come around to the thinking that it doesn't matter if the three lefties hit consecutively--they are three of our most productive hitters. (I'm OK with two of them back-to-back, and I would prefer that they be Griffey-Dunn, but I have resisted all three hitting in order.) I still like Hatteberg in the #6 spot, though--I think it is his best spot. But with Phillips seeming to struggle a little bit, I think he would be best served to move down a little. My lineup for tonight would be:

Hopper cf
Hatteberg 1b
Griffey rf
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Phillips 2b
Gonzalez ss
Valentin c
Livingston p

[KronoRed]

EE needs another 4-4 night and Narron might move him up.... might..

Nope, Narron logic says if a player is doing well in a low spot, leave him there.

[Big Klu]

For your viewing pleasure, I present the lineup from 30 years ago today, a 5-2 win at home vs. Atlanta:

Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey Sr. rf
Joe Morgan 2b
Johnny Bench c
George Foster lf
Dave Concepcion ss
Dan Driessen 1b
Cesar Geronimo cf
Pat Zachry p

[Matt700wlw]

For your viewing pleasure, I present the lineup from 30 years ago today, a 5-2 win at home vs. Atlanta:

Rose 3b
Griffey rf
Morgan 2b
Bench c
Foster lf
Concepcion ss
Driessen 1b
Geronimo cf
Zachry p

What the hell is Sparky sitting Perez for??!?!?! :D


Oh...and catchers bat 8th. :)

[Big Klu]

What the hell is Sparky sitting Perez for??!?!?! :D


Oh...and catchers bat 8th. :)

Perez was toiling for Les Expos by that time. :D

[KronoRed]

Concepcion 6th? come on....

[Big Klu]

The lineup from 25 years ago today (1982), a 4-1 seven-inning win at Philadelphia:

Eddie Milner cf
Ron Oester 2b
Dave Concepcion ss
Dan Driessen 1b
Mike Vail lf
Larry Biittner rf
Johnny Bench 3b
Alex Treviño c
Greg Harris p

[KronoRed]

Good Lord that's even worse

[Big Klu]

Concepcion 6th? come on....

Driessen dropped to 7th vs. Braves lefty Jamie Easterley.

[Matt700wlw]

Perez was toiling for Les Expos by that time. :D

Well, that would explain why he's not in there :p:

[Matt700wlw]

The lineup from 25 years ago today (1982), a 4-1 seven-inning win at Philadelphia:

Milner cf
Oester 2b
Concepcion ss
Driessen 1b
Vail lf
Biittner rf
Bench 3b
Treviño c
Harris p

Bench at 3rd....oh my.

[Big Klu]

Lineup from 20 years ago today (1987), an 8-6 10-inning loss at home to St. Louis:

Kurt Stillwell 3b
Barry Larkin ss
Eric Davis cf
Dave Parker rf
Kal Daniels lf
Bo Diaz c
Nick Esasky 1b
Ron Oester 2b
Jerry Reuss p

[Big Klu]

Bench at 3rd....oh my.

It was brutal. He should have been at 1B (or even LF).

[coachw513]

The lineup from 25 years ago today (1982), a 4-1 seven-inning win at Philadelphia:

Milner cf
Oester 2b
Concepcion ss
Driessen 1b
Vail lf
Biittner rf
Bench 3b
Treviño c
Harris p

Now that is depressing...what an awful team and an awful lineup...and to think just 1 year earlier, the major's best team yet didnt' make the playoffs (thanks MLB!)

Imagine RZ's angst over this team...

[Big Klu]

Now that is depressing...what an awful team and an awful lineup...and to think just 1 year earlier, the major's best team yet didnt' make the playoffs (thanks MLB!)

Imagine RZ's angst over this team...

And that's the year I became a full-fledged fan, attending my first big-league game (Opening Day) and everything!

[oneupper]

Now for my daily rant....

Overall, not the worst possible lineup. I'm OK with Hopper leading off while he is hot (he reached base nine times in the three games at Houston). I am starting to come around to the thinking that it doesn't matter if the three lefties hit consecutively--they are three of our most productive hitters. (I'm OK with two of them back-to-back, and I would prefer that they be Griffey-Dunn, but I have resisted all three hitting in order.) I still like Hatteberg in the #6 spot, though--I think it is his best spot. But with Phillips seeming to struggle a little bit, I think he would be best served to move down a little. My lineup for tonight would be:

Hopper cf
Hatteberg 1b
Griffey rf
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Phillips 2b
Gonzalez ss
Valentin c
Livingston p

Good Lineup. Separating Hatteberg from another lefty should be unnecessary, even in Narron's lefty-splitting world, since he is part of a platoon (Conine?)

I still like Gonzo 8th, reason being if he gets on before the pitcher...gets bunted over he can actually score from second on a single.

Additionally, since your catchers are also your potential pinch hitters, its makes some sense to separate the catchers from the pitchers spot (for those wonderful double switches).

And that was MY daily rant....

as for Narron's lineup :barf:

[Big Klu]

Good Lineup. Separating Hatteberg from another lefty should be unnecessary, even in Narron's lefty-splitting world, since he is part of a platoon (Conine?)

I still like Gonzo 8th, reason being if he gets on before the pitcher...gets bunted over he can actually score from second on a single.

Additionally, since your catchers are also your potential pinch hitters, its makes some sense to separate the catchers from the pitchers spot (for those wonderful double switches).

And that was MY daily rant....

as for Narron's lineup :barf:

I agree, except that I don't think you will ever see Conine hit for Hatteberg (or Hatteberg hit for Conine). You don't want to use your best bat on the bench to hit for a competent player. The platoon simply determines who starts.

[Big Klu]

Lineup from 10 years ago today (1997), a 7-1 loss to the Cubbies at Wrigley:

Deion Sanders cf
Curtis Goodwin lf
Terry Pendleton 3b
Barry Larkin ss
Eduardo Perez 1b
Joe Oliver c
Mike Kelly rf
Jeff Branson 2b
John Smiley p

[MrCinatit]

oooo. Bench in '82 and Pendleton in '97. The Reds have a rich tradition of great third basemen.

[Eric_Davis]

So, we have a bad pitcher with a catcher who's bad for pitchers.

[Big Klu]

Lineup from five years ago today (2002), a 7-1 loss at home to Atlanta:

Barry Larkin ss
Juan Encarnacion cf
Sean Casey 1b
Adam Dunn lf
Austin Kearns rf
Aaron Boone 3b
Todd Walker 2b
Corky Miller c
Jose Rijo p

[Reds Fanatic]

So, we have a bad pitcher with a catcher who's bad for pitchers.And to add to that we have that combo in Colorado. This could be ugly.

[Matt700wlw]

These old lineups are more fun that some of the current ones

:)

[Big Klu]

And an added bonus feature--the lineup from 50 years ago today (1957), a 22-2 win at home over the Cubbies:

Johnny Temple 2b
Wally Post rf
Gus Bell cf
Frank Robinson lf
George Crowe 1b
Ed Bailey c
Don Hoak 3b
Roy McMillan ss
Hal Jeffcoat p

The Redlegs pounded seven home runs that day--Jeffcoat (2), Bell (6), Bailey (9), Hoak (5), Robinson 2 (9), Post (6).

[Big Klu]

These old lineups are more fun that some of the current ones

:)

If everyone likes it, I can post them more often. They are nice conversation pieces before the game starts! :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Here is the Reds lineup from 40 years ago today a 7-6 win over the Cubs with 3 runs in the bottom of the 9th


Cincinnati Reds
Robinson rf
Pinson cf
Rose lf
Perez 3b
Johnson 1b
Helms 2b
Edwards c
Cardenas ss
Nolan p

[KronoRed]

Now that's a lineup.

[Big Klu]

Now that's a lineup.

Which one?

[KronoRed]

57, I like Robinson leading off in the 67 though, that's classic :D

[Big Klu]

57, I like Robinson leading off in the 67 though, that's classic :D

Ummm...I think that's Floyd Robinson in 1967.

But the '57 lineup could flat-out mash!

[BCubb2003]

If everyone likes it, I can post them more often. They are nice conversation pieces before the game starts! :)

We'll get to see if the managers changed the lineups much.

[Big Klu]

We'll get to see if the managers changed the lineups much.

I was planning on just going back 30 years, but I could go further if people want. I added the 1957 lineup because of the big offensive explosion.

[KronoRed]

Ummm...I think that's Floyd Robinson in 1967.

But the '57 lineup could flat-out mash!

I indded have once again failed to know my history http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/EmbarrassedBagOverHead.gif

[MrCinatit]

I indded have once again failed to know my history http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/EmbarrassedBagOverHead.gif

Don't feel bad - I fell for that one, myself. That would have been even more ironic had Pappas been pitching instead of Nolan.

[Reds Fanatic]

In his blog Trent posted this note about Hamilton. Looks like he will be back Tuesday instead of Sunday:


Asked Jerry about Hamilton coming up for Sunday's game, he said they'd probably just have him rejoin the team in St, Louis.

[Cyclone792]

I'm fond of this lineup 85 years ago ... aka 1922 ...

CF Burns
1B Daubert
LF Duncan
RF Harper
C Wingo
2B Bohne
SS Caveney
3B Pinelli
P Luque

Reds beat the Cubs 6-1 with Dolf Luque pitching a complete game with his only run allowed being unearned run.

[pedro]

I'm fond of this lineup 85 years ago ... aka 1922 ...

CF Burns
1B Daubert
LF Duncan
RF Harper
C Wingo
2B Bohne
SS Caveney
3B Pinelli
P Luque

Reds beat the Cubs 6-1 with Dolf Luque pitching a complete game with his only run allowed being unearned run.

Burns played a mean CF.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/fox/the_simpsons___the_complete_third_season/baseballteam.jpg

[cumberlandreds]

If everyone likes it, I can post them more often. They are nice conversation pieces before the game starts! :)


I like it! It is a good conversation piece especially since this season went south so quickly. I'm sorry your first year as a fan was 1982. That was the most brutal season I can remember and I go back 36 years. That was the first time I had to put up with a really bad Reds team. Bench at third was equal to a statue. He couldn't move after all those season of catching. That was brutal watching that too. He should have played 1b and maybe he would have played more seasons. He could still hit well when he hung it up after the 83 season.

[Big Klu]

I like it! It is a good conversation piece especially since this season went south so quickly. I'm sorry your first year as a fan was 1982. That was the most brutal season I can remember and I go back 36 years. That was the first time I had to put up with a really bad Reds team. Bench at third was equal to a statue. He couldn't move after all those season of catching. That was brutal watching that too. He should have played 1b and maybe he would have played more seasons. He could still hit well when he hung it up after the 83 season.

I was a Reds fan from the time I was five years old, in 1975. (Well, actually, I was a Pete Rose and Johnny Bench fan.) But I didn't really understand baseball then. I had my baseball epiphany during the 1979 World Series, and was truly a Reds fane in 1980. But I didn't consider myself a full-fledged fan until I actually attended my first game, which was Opening Day, 1982.

I thought that the Reds should have either:

1) Traded Dan Driessen for OF help (Cesar Cedeño) instead of Ray Knight, especially since the Astros moved Knight to 1B. This would have opened 1B for Bench.

2) Kept both Driessen and Knight, and moved Bench to LF. I have seen Kal Daniels and Adam Dunn play LF. Bench could have at least performed to their level.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper lines out to center. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

[redsmetz]

Now that is depressing...what an awful team and an awful lineup...and to think just 1 year earlier, the major's best team yet didnt' make the playoffs (thanks MLB!)

Imagine RZ's angst over this team...

1981 was the year my wife and I got married. She was from Missouri and the Reds and Cardinals had the two best records for the whole season and neither made the playoffs. We got married the day before the end of the season. I remember watching one of the playoff games from our little honeymoon cottage in New Hampshire, but it should have been the Reds and the Cardinals!

[Matt700wlw]

:griffey:

:jump:

[Razor Shines]

Put that in your humidor!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior homers to right #575!! 1-0 Reds

[jesusfan]

Jr Homers!!!

[guttle11]

That was fun.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 212
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Vada Pinson - 186
10. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 177
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[redsmetz]

I'm fond of this lineup 85 years ago ... aka 1922 ...

CF Burns
1B Daubert
LF Duncan
RF Harper
C Wingo
2B Bohne
SS Caveney
3B Pinelli
P Luque

Reds beat the Cubs 6-1 with Dolf Luque pitching a complete game with his only run allowed being unearned run.

I think just four of those players were from the 1919 World Championship team.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips flies out to right. 1-0 Reds mid 1st.

[jesusfan]

mid 1... 1-0 Reds

[Big Klu]

Put that in your humidor!!

Razor, time to update your title!

[jesusfan]

Taveras grounds hard to Gonzo.. 1 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Big Klu]

Whatever happened to Clint Barmes?

[jesusfan]

2 up, 2 down for Bobo...

[Matt700wlw]

Beware....Holliday and Helton.

:yikes:

[Reds Fanatic]

Tulowitski flies out to right. 2 outs.

[Razor Shines]

Razor, time to update your title!

Done.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the pbp. Wkki is not working for me tonight.

[LincolnparkRed]

Whatever happened to Clint Barmes?

sent down before the end of April I believe

[jesusfan]

Holliday singles...

[Reds Fanatic]

Holliday lines a single to right.

[jesusfan]

Helton singles to Dunn... 1st and 2nd...

[Reds Fanatic]

Helton singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[Matt700wlw]

Helton looking scruffy

[Big Klu]

sent down before the end of April I believe

A couple of years ago, the Rox were talking him up as though he was going to be The Man at SS for them.

[jesusfan]

grounder to Edwin... 1-0 Reds after 1...

[jesusfan]

Brewers score 3 to take the lead 3-2...

[cumberlandreds]

A couple of years ago, the Rox were talking him up as though he was going to be The Man at SS for them.

He's not done anything since he broke his collarbone last season or was it the year before? Don't know if that had anything to do with it but his slide froma good rookie year has been since that injury.

[letsgojunior]

:griffey::griffey::griffey:

[Big Klu]

Helton looking scruffy

When you live in the mountains, you have to do the Jeremiah Johnson/Grizzly Adams thing.

[Ron Madden]

These old lineups are more fun that some of the current ones

:)

Yep, but wrong is wrong and will be wrong untill the end of time.

[jesusfan]

Dunn K's in a terrible At-bat...

[jesusfan]

Gonzo grounds to third on a bad pitch.. 2 down

[jesusfan]

Edwin pops up the first pitch... 1-2-3 inning... mid 2 1-0 Reds...

[jesusfan]

Brewers now up 5-2 on a Ryan Braun homer...

[jesusfan]

Hawpe flies to Dunn... 1 down

[jesusfan]

Torrealba grounds to Edwin... 2 down

[Big Klu]

Edwin has looked better, both offensively and defensively, since his recall.

[jesusfan]

Carroll grounds to Gonzo... 1-2-3 inning for Bobo...

[jesusfan]

Javy grounds to 1st... .1 down

[jesusfan]

Livingston with a great 8 pitch AB but strikes out... 2 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper was hit in the hand by the pitch.

[jesusfan]

Norris HBP... anyone else around? lol

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper gets his 4th steal of the year.

[jesusfan]

Hopper steals 2nd...

[Matt700wlw]

Norris HBP... anyone else around? lol


:wave:

[jesusfan]

C'mon Hatte...

[jesusfan]

3-0 to Hatte..

[Reds Fanatic]

1st and 2nd for Junior with 2 outs.

[jesusfan]

Hatte walks on 4 pitches... Junior up...

[jesusfan]

2-0...

[Razor Shines]

Jr. thought he was getting a fastball there.

[GAC]

We need more people in chat! :beerme:

[jesusfan]

swung at ball 3...

[Big Klu]

Norris HBP... anyone else around? lol

Yeah, I'm here. I was reading up on Jesco White.

[jesusfan]

KGJ grounds to 2nd... mid 3 1-0 Reds

[jesusfan]

Yeah, I'm here. I was reading up on Jesco White.

hes the greatest!

[Gallen5862]

Thanks. I am here as well.

[Matt700wlw]

I blame the Rockies ball guy for Hatteberg missing that foul ball.

MOVE OUT OF THE WAY!!! :laugh:

[jesusfan]

Bucholtz singles.... shew

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitcher leads off with a hit and then Taveras follows with his 14th bunt hit this year.

[jesusfan]

Taveras with a bunt single... 1st and 2nd...

[Razor Shines]

Go ahead and hold onto that BP.

[BCubb2003]

I blame the Rockies ball guy for Hatteberg missing that foul ball.

MOVE OUT OF THE WAY!!! :laugh:

That's such an A-Rod move.

[cumberlandreds]

I'm here too. Took a break to watch the 9th inning of the Pads/Nats game. That Titanic struggle is going into extra innings.

[jesusfan]

Force at 2nd... 1 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Runner holds at 3rd on a shallow fly out to right.

[Big Klu]

I blame the Rockies ball guy for Hatteberg missing that foul ball.

MOVE OUT OF THE WAY!!! :laugh:

The Nature Boy would have bashed him over the head with that stool! :D

[jesusfan]

Holliday flies to right... runners hold...

[Marc D]

Rockies TV guys are highly annoying.

[Razor Shines]

Wow. Nice job Bobby.

[Reds Fanatic]

Great job by Livingston to get out of that inning. Still 1-0 Reds.

[Big Klu]

Nice job by Livingston!

[jesusfan]

Helton grounds back to Livingston.. way to get out of that jam! 1-0 Reds after 3...

[jesusfan]

Livingston > Milton

[CTA513]

I blame the Rockies ball guy for Hatteberg missing that foul ball.

MOVE OUT OF THE WAY!!! :laugh:

That guy sure took his time to try and get out of the way.

[jesusfan]

Marlins score 2.... 5-4 Brewers now..

[Razor Shines]

Livingston > Milton

Yeah but I also have a sick feeling that Chris Michalak = Bobby Livingston. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[jesusfan]

BP singles to center...

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips steals 2nd. Reds are having an easy time stealing bases tonight.

[jesusfan]

BP steals 2nd...

[jesusfan]

Phillips steals 2nd. Reds are having an easy time stealing bases tonight.

Its like Javy is back there catching for the Rocks...

[Matt700wlw]

Oh, Dunner

[jesusfan]

Dunn K"s... dang

[jesusfan]

Dunn is streaky with his K's, he is on a streak right now...

[Matt700wlw]

:jump:

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez homers to left!! 3-0 Reds!

[jesusfan]

We needed that!

[Razor Shines]

Gonzalez just popped up into a HR.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Thom and Chris, why steal 3rd when the batter jacks one out?!? ;)

2-run bomb to left by Alex Gonzalez!

[jesusfan]

Gonzo now with 11 jacks... wow!

[BCubb2003]

Now that's a hit-and-run.

[jesusfan]

EE doubles...

[jesusfan]

EE up to .254...

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin just missed a homer.

[jesusfan]

Eddie to 3rd on the Javy ground out...

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston drives in a run. 4-0 Reds! His first career hit.

[Matt700wlw]

The Bobster!!

[RedFanAlways1966]

Helpin' the cause... RBI single for Livingston. :)

[jesusfan]

Woo Hoo!

[jesusfan]

This kid can handle the stick..

[BCubb2003]

Gonzales second in NL for homers by shortstops.

[jesusfan]

mid 4, 4-0 Redlegs!

[jesusfan]

Gonzales second in NL for homers by shortstops.

Behind all-world J.J Hardy...

[jesusfan]

Brewers score 3 to go up 8-4 now...

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzales second in NL for homers by shortstops.Who would have thought Gonzalez is on pace for a 27 home run season.

[BCubb2003]

Who would have thought Gonzalez is on pace for a 27 home run season.

Wayne Krivsky?

[jesusfan]

Who would have thought Gonzalez is on pace for a 27 home run season.

I would have put him in the 20-25 range with his previous numbers and the addition of playing at GABP...

[jesusfan]

Baker singles...

[Matt700wlw]

Wayne Krivsky?

He doesn't know anything...ask around

;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Actually I did the math wrong Gonzalez is currently on pace for 32 homers.

[jesusfan]

Hawpe grounds to Bobo.... 1 down

[edabbs44]

Wayne Krivsky?

Too bad he didn't know that Stanton would be on that same pace. ;)

[jesusfan]

wild pitch.. runner to 3rd...

[jesusfan]

liner to Hopper... runner holds... 2 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper catches the line drive and the runner was not able to tag up so he is still on 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another good job by Livingston to get out of the inning. 4-0 Reds after 4.

[jesusfan]

Livingston again gets out of a mini jam... still 4-0 Reds after 4...

[paulrichjr]

Livingston has been very good so far. I have been very impressed...in fact he looks good enough to fill in for Milton all year. Of course all it takes is going more than 6 innings without giving up 6 runs to look better than Milton.

[jesusfan]

Im out, cya guys tomorrow... Heres to a Redlegs win:pray:

[KronoRed]

Too bad he didn't know that Stanton would be on that same pace. ;)

Stanton should play SS? :D

[Matt700wlw]

Rockies take out Holliday

:confused:

[Reds Fanatic]

Holliday is taken out of the game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Calf injury for Holliday.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior flies out to center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips lines out to right. 4-0 Reds mid 5th.

[edabbs44]

Calf injury for Holliday.

I was running away with my fantasy league, then today happened:

Wakefield got bombed
Olsen got lit
C Zambrano got abused (and dished a little out, as well)
Holliday gets hurt
Chipper goes on DL

Good thing I have a sizeable lead.

[BCubb2003]

Reds fifth starters 0-9?

[Reds Fanatic]

Buckholz flies out to left. 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Reds fifth starters 0-9?

Reds are 0-9...I believe the starters are 0-5

[BCubb2003]

Reds are 0-9...I believe the starters are 0-5

Thanks. That's worse.

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Matt700wlw]

Wow!

:phillips:

:clap:

THAT was a close play!

[paulrichjr]

Great play by Phillips. Is he a major surprise this year or what?

[BCubb2003]

Great play by Phillips. Is he a major surprise this year or what?

Not to Wayne Krivsky.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tulowitzki grounds out to Valentin. 4-0 Reds after 5.

[Ron Madden]

Rockies TV guys are highly annoying.

Marty and Jeff can be annoying at times too. :(

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn grounds out to the catcher. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion flies out to right. 4-0 Reds mid 6th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Spilborghs pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Holliday out with a head contusion...he did something to himself in the dugout...

[redsmetz]

Holliday out with a head contusion...he did something to himself in the dugout...

Carlos Zambrano didn't make his way to Denver, did he?

[Reds Fanatic]

Helton singles to right.

[Falls City Beer]

These two teams are about as much fun to watch as Sea Monkeys.

[CTA513]

Todd Jones blew a 4 run lead in the 9th and the Indians walk off with a 12-11 win.

[Reds Fanatic]

Baker flies out to center. 2 outs.

[BCubb2003]

These two teams are about as much fun to watch as Sea Monkeys.

Try the x-ray specs.

[Matt700wlw]

These two teams are about as much fun to watch as Sea Monkeys.

Not your typical Coors Field game....

Of course that place is based more on early reputation these days than fact. It's not as "hitter friendly" as it once was......

[Reds Fanatic]

Hawpe walks. 1st and 2nd. First walk in 5 games for a Reds starter.

[paulrichjr]

Hawpe walks. 1st and 2nd. First walk in 5 games for a Reds starter.

Just heard that. That ain't half bad.

[Reds Fanatic]

Torrealba flies out to right. 4-0 Reds after 6.

That is 98 pitches for Livingston.

[paulrichjr]

They just said something to the effect that he might not be pitching anymore. I think I like Livingston's chances better than the bullpen right now. He doesn't seem to get rattled by anything.

[Matt700wlw]

Livingston's night is over, it appears.

Well...maybe not, he's on deck.

[Reds Fanatic]

Looks like Livingston is done. Good start for Livingston. 6IP, 6H, 0ER, 1BB.

[paulrichjr]

Livingston is out of the game...It appears...

[Reds Fanatic]

Ground rule double to center for Valentin.

[Matt700wlw]

Livingston will hit...

[paulrichjr]

Ground rule double - Valentin

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston is going to bat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston bunts but it is right in front of the plate and Valentin has to stay at 2nd. 1 out.

[paulrichjr]

Bad bad bad bunt.

[Matt700wlw]

Unsuccessful sacrifice...Javy still at second

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper grounds out to 2nd. Valentin goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitching change. Jeremy Affeldt in to pitch.

[oneupper]

Bad bad bad bunt.

Worse than bad, unwarranted.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg pops out to short. 4-0 Reds mid 7th.

[Kc61]

Valentin just crushed that double to centerfield. Maybe this start for Valentin means that he is again the backup catcher and Moeller will get sent down when Hamilton or Freel come back. I just don't see this three catcher thing with a 5-man bench.

Valentin is catching Livingston's good game so far. If the pitcher is good, he'll throw a good game to Ross, Valentin, Don Pavletich, or Jesse Gonder.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston is staying in the game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Carroll grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[oneupper]

Livingston is staying in the game.

98 pitches to start the inning. They had him hit (bunt) in the previous inning.

REDS will probably win this game...but this is no way to manage a pitching staff/bench/game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Matsui pinch hits and grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras bloops a single to right.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is it for Livingston. Salmon is coming in to pitch.

Livingston tonight: 6.2 IP, 7H, OER, 1 BB.

[Matt700wlw]

Livingston is done.

Very nice job!

[paulrichjr]

98 pitches to start the inning. They had him hit (bunt) in the previous inning.

REDS will probably win this game...but this is no way to manage a pitching staff/bench/game.

I disagree with that. A bullpen meltdown is no way to win a game. It was a bad bunt but 98 pitches ain't bad.

Narron comes out to bring in Salmon. Personally I think Livingston has done great with men on. I leave him in here. Oh well

[redsfan4445]

i hope Livingston stays in the rotation.. he deserves it!

[StillFunkyB]

:clap:

Good job Bobby!

[Big Klu]

Valentin just crushed that double to centerfield. Maybe this start for Valentin means that he is again the backup catcher and Moeller will get sent down when Hamilton or Freel come back. I just don't see this three catcher thing with a 5-man bench.

Valentin is catching Livingston's good game so far. If the pitcher is good, he'll throw a good game to Ross, Valentin, Don Pavletich, or Jesse Gonder.

I agree. You can't have two backup catchers on afive-man bench unless one of them is a legitimate option at another position. (Like Ryan Doumit at 1B and RF for the Pirates.)


Nice job by Livingston! He definitely earned another start!

[oneupper]

That is it for Livingston. Salmon is coming in to pitch.

Livingston tonight: 6.2 IP, 7H, OER, 1 BB.

Narron does it again. Why in the heck bring him out for the 7th if he's on such a short leash. Pinch hit for him and try to get that 5th run.

What are the odds of a 1-2-3 inning?

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras steals 2nd. Luckily Gonzalez was backing up that play or the throw would have been into center.

[paulrichjr]

Honestly why do you think Narron feels safer with his bullpen than with a guy that has pitched awesome for 7 2/3 innings? I don't understand. walk on 4 pitches

[Reds Fanatic]

A 4 pitch walk to Tulowitzki. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

[Big Klu]

Narron does it again. Why in the heck bring him out for the 7th if he's on such a short leash. Pinch hit for him and try to get that 5th run.

Maybe because of the four-pitch walk we just saw?

[Matt700wlw]

Salmon can't find the strike zone

[Reds Fanatic]

3-2 count on Spilbroghs.

Walk to Spilborghs. Bases loaded for Helton.

[paulrichjr]

3 balls 2 strikes

[oneupper]

I disagree with that. A bullpen meltdown is no way to win a game. It was a bad bunt but 98 pitches ain't bad.

Narron comes out to bring in Salmon. Personally I think Livingston has done great with men on. I leave him in here. Oh well




I agree Livingston has been fine...if you left him in...its because you want him in...not to pull him after a bloop single.

Now you bring in a new pitcher to start with the meat of the order instead of the bottom.

Worst of both worlds.

[Matt700wlw]

Oh boy...here comes Helton with the bases loaded.

[paulrichjr]

Walk

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitching change.

[Reds Fanatic]

Coutlangus in to pitch.

[redsmetz]

Walk

So does this refer to the walk that loaded the bases or did we just walk Helton?

[Big Klu]

I agree Livingston has been fine...if you left him in...its because you want him in...not to pull him after a bloop single.

Now you bring in a new pitcher to start with the meat of the order instead of the bottom.

Worst of both worlds.

I would have given him one more batter after Taveras' single.

[Matt700wlw]

Well, 1 is better than 4...

[jesusfan]

wow!

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Helton as Gonzalez can't cleanly field the ball. 4-1 Reds. Bases still loaded.

[Big Klu]

Gonzalez got shaded on that play. Good baserunning.

[StillFunkyB]

I thought the Reds signed a gold glove SS this offseason?

[Big Klu]

Infield hit for Helton as Gonzalez can't cleanly field the ball. 4-1 Reds. Bases still loaded.

Thom said that they charged an error to Gonzo.

[Reds Fanatic]

0-2 count on Baker.

[Reds Fanatic]

Baker grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice. 4-1 Reds after 7.

[Marc D]

Thom said that they charged an error to Gonzo.


His 9th in 56 games.

[Big Klu]

I wonder if Gonzo's son being sick is affecting him more than we might think. (Not making excuses--just wondering out loud.)

[Big Klu]

Excellent outing by Livingston. I presume he has earned another start.