6/9/07 vs Indians

[Matt700wlw]

Redlegs

Hopper LF
Phillips 2B
Griffey RF
Conine 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Hamilton CF
Gonzalez SS
Moeller C
Belisle P

Injuns

Sizemore CF
Blake 3B
Hafner 1B
Martinez C
Nixon RF
Peralta SS
Dellucci LF
Barfield 2B
Sowers P

[Marc D]

Redlegs

Hopper LF
Phillips 2B
Griffey RF
Conine 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Hamilton CF
Gonzalez SS
Moeller C
Belisle P



He just can't help himself, its pathalogical.

Is it asking too much to follow up the warm and fuzzy feelings we left with last night by putting your best team on the field and in positions to maximize their success? Just this once?

[Falls City Beer]

On his Gameday photo, Ricky Ledee looks like a total pervert.

[Heath]

Not even FCB's command of the English vocabulary can describe this lineup.

[flyer85]

the fascination with Hopper has gone on too long. He is really worthless unless he is going to hit .350

[GAC]

He just can't help himself, its pathalogical.

Is it asking too much to follow up the warm and fuzzy feelings we left with last night by putting your best team on the field and in positions to maximize their success? Just this once?

Its why I would have no problem with Narron being fired. He's no better then Bob Boone with his constant tinkering,l ineup and batting order shuffling.

Players, IMO, have a hard time getting in a groove and gelling when they come to the ballpark and don't if, how, when, or where they are playing.

It's ridiculous. Find a set lineup and go with it. Narron feels he has to try and get everyone in the lineup and playing time.

[GAC]

the fascination with Hopper has gone one too long. He is really worthless unless he is going to hit .350

I disagree with you there. I was at the gamelast night,and while he didn't do well at the plate, I was thoroughly impressed with his defense in CF. The kid really seemed to see/track balls well, and covered alot of ground. He had a couple balls hit over his head, and he amazed me on how well he went back on them. Very smooth, fluid.

[Marc D]

Thats a nice start

[flyer85]

I disagree with you there. I was at the gamelast night,and while he didn't dwell at the plate, I was thoroughly impressed with his defense in CF. The kid really seemed to see/track balls well, and covered alot of ground. He had a couple balls hit over his head, and he amazed me on how well he went back on them. Very smooth, fluid.he is an offensive zero, and cost the Reds a run last night by overthrowing the cutoff man. Can he play pretty well in the OF? Yes, but not well enough to come close for his complete lack of power and walks. His OPS is 710 UGH!!

[red-in-la]

Where is Adam Dunn?

[WVRedsFan]

Only Narron could take any optimism from a great game last night and totally bury it with a lineup that includes no Dunn and Chad Moeller.

He must go now, but the love affair going on between he and Krivksy (who should also be dismissed and his key taken) means we have him for a long time. Hope everyone enjoys 100-loss seasons.

[flyer85]

Where is Adam Dunn?
The Happy Hopper is playing ... no Dunn needed.

[Matt700wlw]

He just can't help himself, its pathalogical.

Is it asking too much to follow up the warm and fuzzy feelings we left with last night by putting your best team on the field and in positions to maximize their success? Just this once?

Griffey will sit tomorrow, I would bet.

[Marc D]

Where is Adam Dunn?


He and his near .900 OPS are on the bench so the Reds can have their best team on the field.

[flyer85]

Griffey will sit tomorrow, I would bet.I did predict that Hopper would play all three games this weekend.

[red-in-la]

The Happy Hopper is playing ... no Dunn needed.

Just wondered if maybe a move has been made.....

[flyer85]

Just wondered if maybe a move has been made.....that will be BIG news and the topic of discussion. When Dunn gets traded, you'll know

[Marc D]

GG with the first "get em on, get em over, get em in" of the night.

[red-in-la]

LOVE the Hopper bunt......I know he isn't well thought of in Redszone land.....but I want my lead-off hitter to be able to force his way on.

[Falls City Beer]

GG with the first "get em on, get em over, get em in" of the night.

He should turn that into a "rap." "Get 'em on....(huh-uh, huh-uh)...."

[Matt700wlw]

I did predict that Hopper would play all three games this weekend.

That's a good prediction

[flyer85]

LOVE the Hopper bunt......I know he isn't well thought of in Redszone land.....but I want my lead-off hitter to be able to force his way on.that .333 OBP says he doesnt force his way on nearly enough to be a good lead off hitter

[red-in-la]

GG makes at least 4-5 major mistakes evert telecast (that I have seen). I just can't believe this guy is a broadcaster.

[KronoRed]

LOVE the Hopper bunt......I know he isn't well thought of in Redszone land.....but I want my lead-off hitter to be able to force his way on.
He's thought of just fine as a backup, it's starting where people start to not like it.

[WVRedsFan]

GG with the first "get em on, get em over, get em in" of the night.
Yep, right on cue.

One of he many problems with Narron's lineup is with the bunt (which i thought Chris was going to have an orgasm over), it would mean that Phillips would have to bunt to get Hopper over. You really don't want Phillips bunting (or maybe you do after that at-bat), and you need to bat lower in the order, but Narron for whatever reason once again makes no sense.

[red-in-la]

that .333 OBP says he doesnt force his way on nearly enough to be a good lead off hitter

He is still pretty new......if he can bunt like he just did, he will do fine with his OBP.

[Eric_Davis]

I like our lineup.

I like theirs better.

But, I like our lineup. We should get 5-7 runs tonight with that lineup.

[flyer85]

He's thought of just fine as a backup, it's starting where people start to not like it.The fact that a team will give Hopper a lot of ABs just speaks to being a really bad team. He had his hot streak, feel lucky it came at the right time and put him back inside the glass.

[Marc D]

He's thought of just fine as a backup, it's starting where people start to not like it.


Agreed. He makes the older, more expensive and more tradeable Ryan Freel expendable in my book(once he gets farney back in his house and settled down that is).

I like Hopper as the 4th OF on this team and starting once maybe twice a week.

[Matt700wlw]

:jump:

[WVRedsFan]

Conine - big fly 2-1 Reds.

[flyer85]

I like our lineup.

I like theirs better.

But, I like our lineup. We should get 5-7 runs tonight with that lineup.when the oppsing team starter has an ERA over 6 that's not much of a stretch and it has more to do with the pitcher than the lineup.

[Marc D]

HR by youngblood

Why would anyone try and get an inside fastball past him?

[KronoRed]

Conine and the Hat are hot..a team could use the tandem.

[flyer85]

He is still pretty new......if he can bunt like he just did, he will do fine with his OBP.the OBP is never going to be more than average because he doesn't walk. He is a RH hitting Alex Sanchez minus a few steals.

[Falls City Beer]

Jeune corps.

[Falls City Beer]

Jeremy Sowers--not en fuego.

[Phhhl]

Good lord, Sowers only has 14 k's in 59 ip's. And the league is hitting over .300 against him. I can honestly say I'm not all broken up about not having that guy on our staff right now.

[flyer85]

I can't believe some at Red Zone could fall in love with someone(Hopper) who is a not a run producer(1 RBI in 77 ABs).

[Eric_Davis]

As was said about 4 days ago. With the REDS facing LH's in all 3 of these games vs the Indians, Hopper would start in all of them. All he's doing is leading the team in OPS vs. LH's. That gives everyone from our All-LH Outfield one day off this weekend. Hamilton, Dunn, and Junior are all worse against LH's than they are vs. RH's. And they can use the rest during this grueling schedule they've been on for almost 4 weeks now.

[Falls City Beer]

Good lord, Sowers only has 14 k's in 59 ip's. And the league is hitting over .300 against him. I can honestly say I'm not all broken up about not having that guy on our staff right now.

Yep. Looks like a total bust.

[KronoRed]

I can't believe some at Red Zone could fall in love with someone(Hopper) who is a not a run producer(1 RBI in 77 ABs).

He doesn't strike out, that's all that count ;)

[flyer85]

Good lord, Sowers only has 14 k's in 59 ip's. And the league is hitting over .300 against him. I can honestly say I'm not all broken up about not having that guy on our staff right now.the fact that they haven't swapped him out for Miller shows that even the best organizations can still have blind spots.

[Aronchis]

Sowers is terrible. The Indians starting pitching is really suspect outside CC.

[Eric_Davis]

when the oppsing team starter has an ERA over 6 that's not much of a stretch and it has more to do with the pitcher than the lineup.

I definitely took that into account. Hopper should start against all Lefthanders. He's proven so far this year to be the best on the team when doing so. He's made a difference on this team this year in this area.

And he's done it again today already.

[Eric_Davis]

I can't believe some at Red Zone could fall in love with someone(Hopper) who is a not a run producer(1 RBI in 77 ABs).

It's hard to produce runs when you hit behind Castro and the pitcher.

Come on flyer. Give the guy credit where credit is due. You can't bash a guy who has hit against left-handers better than everyone else on the team.

[Matt700wlw]

:hamilton:

:jump:

I love this kid!

[Falls City Beer]

Wow.

[flyer85]

I definitely took that into account. Hopper should start against all Lefthanders. He's proven so far this year to be the best on the team when doing so.Small sample size. Hopper is a end of the bench role player and should be treated as such. I'll take Hamilton every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Gallen5862]

HR Josh hamilton.

[red-in-la]

I can't believe some at Red Zone could fall in love with someone(Hopper) who is a not a run producer(1 RBI in 77 ABs).

I did NOT say I was a Hopper pundit. I simply said I like a bunt now and then. It shakes the pitcher up and challenges the defense even if the bunt does not result in a hit.

I said I like that aspect that Hopper brings.....I did NOT vote for him for the All-star team.

I can live with seeing what the guy can do......I have never liked the Ryan Freel show......

Anyway, I had a question.....if the Reds did deal Dunn.....would you want to move JR to LF? JR is a real statue in RF.

[Matt700wlw]

That ball was obliterated

[Falls City Beer]

That Hamilton HR was a line shot to CF.

[Eric_Davis]

when the oppsing team starter has an ERA over 6 that's not much of a stretch and it has more to do with the pitcher than the lineup.


I've seen a number of Left-handers this year with 6.00+ ERA's handcuff the REDS hitters and limit them to 0-2 runs. This is a better lineup than earlier in the year.

[flyer85]

It's hard to produce runs when you hit behind Castro and the pitcher.

Come on flyer. Give the guy credit where credit is due. You can't bash a guy who has hit against left-handers better than everyone else on the team.I'll give him credit, he had a hot streak. But his OPS is still 710. He has sucked in the minors, sucks now and will suck in the future. The 700 OPS is all there , thats the upside.

[Eric_Davis]

the OBP is never going to be more than average because he doesn't walk. He is a RH hitting Alex Sanchez minus a few steals.

Get it all out there. What else bad can you say about him.

[Aronchis]

Sowers may need to be comforted by Milton after the game;)

[Falls City Beer]

My mom, bless her heart, who's 75, could outperform Moeller.

[WVRedsFan]

I like our lineup.

I like theirs better.

But, I like our lineup. We should get 5-7 runs tonight with that lineup.

But will it be enough?

It's rare when the Reds score more than 5 runs. They'ved only done that 19 times this year. Over the last ten games, they're averaging 3.6 runs per game while the opposition is averaging 4.4.

Hamilton's HR proves that Narron doesn't have a clue how valuable he is and Moeller's clueless at bat shows Narron simply values things other than performance in manufacturing a lineup.

[Aronchis]

the fact that they haven't swapped him out for Miller shows that even the best organizations can still have blind spots.

Miller has been injured for sometime, they have very little choice other than hope he improves.

[Marc D]

Get it all out there. What else bad can you say about him.


He can't hit the cutoff man and has a weak arm. ;)

[flyer85]

Get it all out there. What else bad can you say about him.sometimes the truth just isn't pretty. :help:

[Eric_Davis]

Small sample size. Hopper is a end of the bench role player and should be treated as such. I'll take Hamilton every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Who cares what the sample size is?

300 High School players just got drafted from small sample sizes.

It is what it is? Hopper's hitting Left-handers better than any player on the team.

[flyer85]

My mom, bless her heart, who's 75, could outperform Moeller.thank God the GM was smart enough to give him a major league contract.

[red-in-la]

Meantime, back at the ranch......

[red-in-la]

Before the walk, I was going to say that Belise seened to be on tonight.

[Eric_Davis]

I'll give him credit, he had a hot streak. But his OPS is still 710. He has sucked in the minors, sucks now and will suck in the future. The 700 OPS is all there , thats the upside.

Don't you listen? I said his OPS vs Left-handers. I only said it three times. But, all you want to do is rag on Hopper. Leave the guy alone.

[WVRedsFan]

Bad Belisle is back.

It might take more than 7 runs to win this one.

[flyer85]

Who cares what the sample size is?
Smart people know to ignore them when there is a track record that says something different(and make no mistake Hopper has a long minor league track record). Ignoring the track record and going with the small sample size is high risk. Ross is a prime example in 2007.

[Matt700wlw]

Bad Belisle is back.

It might take more than 7 runs to win this one.

His evil twin Mark Belisle

[Marc D]

Is it just me or does Blake have the most protruding cup in MLB?

Looks like the guy from the Producers.

[flyer85]

Belisles lack of a changeup does not match up well with all the lefties.

[Matt700wlw]

uh oh...Hafner

[WVRedsFan]

Bases loaded, no one out. Hafner up.

Not pretty. You know Hafner's story, right?

[Aronchis]

Matt Belisle spells not for long.

[Eric_Davis]

Hopper's hitting .400 vs. Left-Handers this year with a .900 OPS.

Enjoy watching it.

[Eric_Davis]

But will it be enough?

It's rare when the Reds score more than 5 runs. They'ved only done that 19 times this year. Over the last ten games, they're averaging 3.6 runs per game while the opposition is averaging 4.4.

Hamilton's HR proves that Narron doesn't have a clue how valuable he is and Moeller's clueless at bat shows Narron simply values things other than performance in manufacturing a lineup.

This inning may help answer that.

[flyer85]

Like a lot Reds Belisle is what he is. An end of the rotation starter at best. Unlike a lot of others I have no illusions about the talent level of this team indiviually or corporately.

[WVRedsFan]

Hafner's reaction in the dugout is a marked difference to what happens in the Reds dugout after an out. No fire?

[Matt700wlw]

Narron with a little emotion....a little

[KronoRed]

Narron with a little emotion....a little

Maybe he had some spicy food for dinner

[flyer85]

Moeller is as bad as Ross when it comes to blocking the plate

[WVRedsFan]

Reading Jerry's lips after Hopper's throw seemed to indicate he had fertilizer on his mind. :cool:

[Marc D]

Told ya he couldn't throw.:)

Nice effort, too deep to get the runner.

[Eric_Davis]

He can't hit the cutoff man and has a weak arm. ;)

I saw the wink, so I think you're kidding. I can be pretty gullible sometimes.

But for the record. He has as many outfield assists as Freel and Junior and he hasn't committed an error yet they year. All the REDS' outfielders had committed an error by the end of their 7th game of the year.

Did anyone here see Hopper's the assist the other night?

Was it good?

[Matt700wlw]

Maybe he had some spicy food for dinner

Firey farts

[flyer85]

Narron with a little emotion....a littlelack of emotion is not the problem, lack of talent is. Narron does a lot of strange things but the best manager in baseball(take your pick) couldn't win with the 2007 Reds.

[KronoRed]

Firey farts

Ewwwwww

[Eric_Davis]

sometimes the truth just isn't pretty. :help:

But, flyer, it was you who predicted that Hopper would start all three games this weekend and that each of the outfielders would get a day's rest. I thought that to be very insightful.

[Matt700wlw]

lack of emotion is not the problem, lack of talent is. Narron does a lot of strange things but the best manager in baseball(take your pick) couldn't win with the 2007 Reds.


So you're on the side of keeping Narron? :)

[Marc D]

I saw the wink, so I think you're kidding. I can be pretty gullible sometimes.

But for the record. He has as many outfield assists as Freel and Junior and he hasn't committed an error yet they year. All the REDS' outfielders had committed an error by the end of their 7th game of the year.

Did anyone here see Hopper's the assist the other night?

Was it good?


I was kidding but he did miss the cutoff man last night which directly cost HB a run.

Thats the type of thing that should be considerd an error imo.

[red-in-la]

lack of emotion is not the problem, lack of talent is. Narron does a lot of strange things but the best manager in baseball(take your pick) couldn't win with the 2007 Reds.

I cannot say whether another manager would make them lead the division......but I think there is definite room for improvement.

[flyer85]

A large reason why guys don't walk is that when you get ahead 3-1 the pitcher has no qualms about throwing a fastball right down the middle

[Eric_Davis]

Smart people know to ignore them when there is a track record that says something different(and make no mistake Hopper has a long minor league track record). Ignoring the track record and going with the small sample size is high risk. Ross is a prime example in 2007.

But, isn't there a big difference in Major League experience between the two? About 4 years? Hopper will only cost the league minimum for the next couple of years, so WK can't make a mistake by overpaying him. If he reverts back to his Minor League numbers, then he is what has been expected. But sometimes players peaks outperform their earlier levels of play. And we could be getting that from Hopper this year, and if we're lucky, next year, too at no cost to the team.

[Matt700wlw]

Junior!

He's remarkable.

[VR]

Anyone have a rusty nail? Cuz I'd rather jam that into my eye than listen to Brantley's pbp.

[KronoRed]

Anyone have a rusty nail? Cuz I'd rather jam that into my eye than listen to Brantley's pbp.

http://www.learner.org/channel/courses/essential/physicalsci/images/s4.rusty_nail.jpg

[red-in-la]

But, isn't there a big difference in Major League experience between the two? About 4 years? Hopper will only cost the league minimum for the next couple of years, so WK can't make a mistake by overpaying him. If he reverts back to his Minor League numbers, then he is what has been expected. But sometimes players peaks outperform their earlier levels of play. And we could be getting that from Hopper this year, and if we're lucky, next year, too at no cost to the team.

Norris Hopper = Mariano Duncan ??????

[Marc D]

Anyone have a rusty nail? Cuz I'd rather jam that into my eye than listen to Brantley's pbp.


http://images.quizilla.com/H/highwaytokel/1036809394_resultnail.jpg

[VR]

thanks Krono...that gave me momentary relief from Jeff "H.Keller" Brantley.

[flyer85]

But, flyer, it was you who predicted that Hopper would start all three games this weekend and that each of the outfielders would get a day's rest. I thought that to be very insightful.didn't mean I agreed, just that it really isn't hard to predict what Narron is likely to do. Jerry has a real affinity for the scrappy end of the bench types that can't hit. Im guessing it's because that's exactly what he was.

[Matt700wlw]

thanks Krono...that gave me momentary relief from Jeff "H.Keller" Brantley.

What don't you like?

Remember...he's an analyst by trade, who's doing PBP for the first time this seaosn...

[flyer85]

Norris Hopper = Mariano Duncan ??????minus the ability to play the middle infield and minus the power.

[Matt700wlw]

The new and improved Edwin Encarnacion!

[KronoRed]

What don't you like?

He's not a PBP guy and never will be.;)

[Eric_Davis]

Belisle and Sowers are both at 61 pitches right now.

[Marc D]

EE is going to be our best RISP guy for his career. He just has the knack.*

*totally anecdotal but it sure seems that way.

[WVRedsFan]

Edwin's hit gets the run back with (gasp) 2 out!

Hamilton up to scorch Sowers again.

[VR]

What don't you like?

Remember...he's an analyst by trade, who's doing PBP for the first time this seaosn...

I love his analysis, a lot, actually.

But, his monotony and lack of appropriate inflection/ timing makes listening to his call of the game quite aggravating.
Love his color though.

[flyer85]

Hopper will only cost the league minimum for the next couple of years, so WK can't make a mistake by overpaying him.I have no problem with Hopper as a 24/25th man on the roster who only starts in case of emergency(like when Freel and Hamilton both on the DL). It's the playing him constantly when you don't have to. Reds got lucky in that he had a hot streak when Freel went out. It was a fluke and not who he is. A smart manager would know that(maybe Narron does) it's just that Jerry overvalues "intangibles"(like "playing the game the right way").

[redsrule2500]

weak AB by hamilton...oh well made him pitch 5

[flyer85]

The new and improved Edwin Encarnacion!same EE, he was in a slump early, now he isn't. It's amazing how upset people get about things that are just normal ebbs and flows of a major league season.

[Eric_Davis]

He got Hamilton this time, but with Gonzalez out there instead of Castro, they can't pitch around Hamilton. He's got one HR already.

[pedro]

I'm not terribly impressed with Sowers. I think he may end up just being a LOOGY.

[WVRedsFan]

4-3. We're going to have to score a bunch of runs tonight.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm not terribly impressed with Belisle either...

[flyer85]

weak AB by hamilton...oh well made him pitch 5it's amazng how when a pitcher keeps the ball out of middle of the plate he happens to get people out. Whoda thunkit.

[Eric_Davis]

I'm not terribly impressed with Sowers. I think he may end up just being a LOOGY.

I'm impressed with the Padres organizational pitching. I wish we had half their pitchers. Five of their current relievers have ERA's under 2.00. And at AAA, they have several down there, too.

[Matt700wlw]

weak AB by hamilton...oh well made him pitch 5

Swung at ball 4....

Oh well

[flyer85]

I'm not terribly impressed with Sowers. I think he may end up just being a LOOGY.His K/9 numbers have shown he was walking the razors edge, even when he had some success last year. What has happened to him this year was not hard to predict.

[CTA513]

Belisle is doing his best to try and give up the lead.

[Matt700wlw]

Sowers got a hit...first career hit


Wow.

[KronoRed]

BP night.

[flyer85]

Sowers got a hit...



Wow.it was a fastball right down the middle, those do tend to get hit.

[Matt700wlw]

BP night.

:scared:

[Matt700wlw]

it was a fastball right down the middle, those do tend to get hit.

Even by pitchers.

[Eric_Davis]

The Indians have a torrid lineup. Their first six hitters are all among the very best. It's amazing we won the first game last night by holding them to so few runs.

We might need 12 runs tonight.

[Matt700wlw]

The Indians have a torrid lineup. Their first six hitters are all among the very best. It's amazing we won the first game last night by holding them to so few runs.

We might need 12 runs tonight.

Good pitching.







Did I just type that?

[flyer85]

baseball is not complicated excepting the execution. Make good pitches and you get people out. Make bad pitches and you give up runs(unless Moeller or Castro is hitting).

[Eric_Davis]

Belisle is bending but not breaking, and that may be enough to get us a win tonight and finally, another series win.

[KronoRed]

In 50 years when they put together a list of patient hitters from this era that list will include a bunch of guys who came up in the Indians system

[Eric_Davis]

it was a fastball right down the middle, those do tend to get hit.

I can't trust a computer, but MLB had it about six inches outside, and they rarely show that unless it's really outside.

[Matt700wlw]

I didn't know Roger Clemens is from Dayton, Ohio

[KronoRed]

I didn't know Roger Clemens is from Dayton, Ohio

He rejects his Ohio roots

[Eric_Davis]

This will be a game of attrition.

Both bullpens should be in the game by the start of the 7th at the latest.

[flyer85]

This will be a game of attrition.
advantage Indians

[KronoRed]

Maybe we can bring back Homer on 12 hours rest to shut em down :devil:

[Matt700wlw]

Travis Hafner's jog to the dugout may have been Travis Hafner at full speed...

[jojo]

Reds pitching has lived dangerously this whole series so far.

[red-in-la]

minus the ability to play the middle infield and minus the power.

Now that's something you don't see everyday.....Mariano Duncan and power used in the same sentence.:laugh:

[Matt700wlw]

Hopper!

[red-in-la]

Da'man drops a triple on the Indians to open the inning.....

[Marc D]

Belisle is bending but not breaking, and that may be enough to get us a win tonight and finally, another series win.


another?

[Eric_Davis]

another?

You know, like the 2nd one since April.

[KronoRed]

another?

Do the astros really count?

[Tom Servo]

Brandon Phillips - Indians Killer

[Marc D]

You know, like the 2nd one since April.


ugh

[jojo]

You know, like the 2nd one since April.

By trotting Sowers out there, the Indians where basically handing the Reds a bazooka, sticking a duracell on their shoulder and daring the Reds to shoot it off...

[red-in-la]

Does this strike anybody else as one of those 15-14 games? It just seems sooo easy for both teams to tack on runs tonight.

[VR]

Phillips refusing to do anything except try to go to right field. How exciting.

That concept could have made Pokey Reese a very, very wealthy man. Or Aaron Boone. Or Jason LaRue.

[Matt700wlw]

I would like to thank the Indians for letting the Reds have Brandon Phillips

[Eric_Davis]

Does this strike anybody else as one of those 15-14 games? It just seems sooo easy for both teams to tack on runs tonight.

Definitely.

Who'll score more tonight? REDS/Tribe or Cubs/Braves?

[Marc D]

Does this strike anybody else as one of those 15-14 games? It just seems sooo easy for both teams to tack on runs tonight.


Don't know if we have 14 in us but I can always see 15 from the other team.

[KronoRed]

Phillips refusing to do anything except try to go to right field. How exciting.

That concept could have made Pokey Reese a very, very wealthy man. Or Aaron Boone. Or Jason LaRue.

Dude pull hitting is the bomb :cool:

[Eric_Davis]

I hope Conine and EdE kill Perez and make it mistake to bring another left out there just to pitch to Junior.

[Eric_Davis]

I'll also give Belisle a lot of credit. For a back-of-the-rotation pitcher to only give up 3 runs in 5 innings to this lineup is a good day's work.

[Matt700wlw]

I hope Conine and EdE kill Perez and make it mistake to bring another left out there just to pitch to Junior.

You mean Hamilton?

[Marc D]

he tries that in the hitting zone and Conine will hit it hard

[Heath]

At least it is not bad this year yet that Conine HAS to play OF.

[KronoRed]

At least it is not bad this year yet that Conine HAS to play OF.

Year ain't over yet :D

[Eric_Davis]

You mean Hamilton?

I thought I'd stop typing, but I was going to continue to add that, yes.

[Eric_Davis]

Can he do it again? Another 2-out RBI for EdE?

[KronoRed]

Ugh don't swing at that

[Marc D]

CW with his all latin players know each other from winter ball line

[Matt700wlw]

Marcus McBeth warming in the bullpen...along with someone else

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle approaching 115 pitches

[Red in Chicago]

Marcus McBeth warming in the bullpen...along with someone else

So in other words, "someone" else will be coming in;)

[Aronchis]

Belisle has another inning or two in him.

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle has another inning or two in him.

David Ross on deck....Belisle's day is done

[Marc D]

Good God, this games only in the 6th???

[Matt700wlw]

Good God, this games only in the 6th???

Yeah, I know...sllllloooooowwwww

[Heath]

Ross or Castro to PH from the right hand side -

I'd rather have Adam Dunn switch-hitting.

[WVRedsFan]

George with his Cardinal platitudes--this time the fricking catching coach!

Send George to St. louis. Please.

Ross to bat for Belisle. Wild Pitch--runner on second.

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle went 114 pitches tonight...

[Marc D]

Yeah, I know...sllllloooooowwwww

I put myself on a strict GG inning count(mute him by the 3rd) but channelled JN and extended it to the 6th. Much like our SP's I am now paying the price.

[CTA513]

Belisle went 114 pitches tonight...

Belisle also wasn't making his major league debut.

[Marc D]

Who's this guy pitching?

[VR]

How fast on the strike two fastball.. and strike three change?

[Matt700wlw]

Belisle also wasn't making his major league debut.

It wasn't meant to be a sarcastic thing, just pointing it out...people like to know those things :)

[Falls City Beer]

Jason "Shawn" Michaels Ks.

[Marc D]

Nice D griffey

[jesusfan]

great... 1st and 3rd... 1 out, Hafner up...

[Heath]

Who's this guy pitching?

Some guy named McBath or McBeth or something.

:dunno:

[jesusfan]

Couter Bobbie in to face Hafner... c'mon DP!

[jojo]

McBeth looks like just another bullpen arm so far in his two outings...

[CTA513]

great... 1st and 3rd... 1 out, Hafner up...

Should probably be runner at 1st with 2 outs.

[VR]

Nice D griffey

1 or both of those catchable?

[BCubb2003]

Some guy named McBath or McBeth or something.

:dunno:

"Fair is foul and foul is fair."

[Marc D]

You know damn good and well Weathers, Stanton or Santos would be left in to get out of this on veteran guile.

[Marc D]

1 or both of those catchable?

1st one was imo, second was a shot.

[mth123]

1 or both of those catchable?

First one was IMO. They were both bloops. McBeth was oK. This was definition of BABIP bad luck IMO.

[jesusfan]

Choke Hafner Choke!

[Heath]

McBeth followed by Coutlangus.

[SandyD]

Some guy named McBath or McBeth or something.

:dunno:

We need a nickname ... the Great Scot or something. In theatre cirles it's considered bad luck to say the name.

[jesusfan]

Grounder to Eddie.. Force out at 2nd... should've been a double play... 5-4 Reds...

[Heath]

McBeth looks like just another bullpen arm so far in his two outings...

Slamming the door on him after two outings?

Sheesh. Tough crowd here.

[Matt700wlw]

Shocking...the bullpen gives up a run

[jesusfan]

Couter with a wild pitch... awesome!

[Heath]

Shocking...the bullpen gives up a run

If the ball is hit harder its a DP. No doubt.

[Marc D]

Shocking...the bullpen gives up a run

Even more shocking is the defense gave them 2 extra outs and a WP(so far)

[jesusfan]

Liner right at Gonzo... lucky, lucky, lucky... 5-4 Reds mid 7th...

[jojo]

Slamming the door on him after two outings?

Sheesh. Tough crowd here.

Nope. I think he can probably be useful. I'm just suggesting nothing about the stuff he's shown so far screams, "high leverage" situation arm.

[Heath]

Couter with a wild pitch... awesome!

Couter?

This guy?

http://images.richmond.com/images/storyimage/3-21-02cooter_story.jpg

[Aronchis]

When Griff misreads a flare, they usually drop.

[jesusfan]

Nope. I think he can probably be useful. I'm just suggesting nothing about the stuff he's shown so far screams, "high leverage" situation arm.

93, 94 MPH heater with a nice curve, and great change up... give him a chance, he'll be a good bullpen arm...

[jojo]

93, 94 MPH heater with a nice curve, and great change up... give him a chance, he'll be a good bullpen arm...

That's an optimistic assessment of his arsenal...

[jesusfan]

Hopper grounds to short... c'mon BP

[jesusfan]

That's an optimistic assessment of his arsenal...

Im just stating his fastball speed and his curve and change-up assessment as scouts see him, he was voted the best change up in the A's system...

[Heath]

That's an optimistic assessment of his arsenal...

Not everyone can be Fernando Rodney.

He's got some movement out there - he needs to harness it, a la "Couter" and "Burton"

[jesusfan]

BP K's... 2 quick outs...

[Marc D]

When Griff misreads a flare, they usually drop.

Very polite way of saying he can't cover a lick of ground out there anymore.

[Matt700wlw]

Players not liking the umpire tonight.

[BCubb2003]

Not everyone can be Fernando Rodney.

He's got some movement out there - he needs to harness it, a la "Couter" and "Burton"

McBeth was throwing hard and keeping it down, which is a good sign (but they were hitting it).

[Heath]

McBeth was throwing hard and keeping it down, which is a good sign (but they were hitting it).

Sizemore's hit was all hitter. The location was perfect.

[jesusfan]

Griffey with a great AB...

[jesusfan]

Griffey!!!!! 6-4 Reds!

[Heath]

Nice punch Alice.

[Matt700wlw]

:griffey:

:jump:


WOW!!!!

[MrCinatit]

So. This Junior guy. He's not bad. Has some potential.

[jesusfan]

HAHA... 577 to 575... nice board out there.. lol

[jojo]

someone got a great souvenir

[Matt700wlw]

Stop giving the Griffey chase number changer guys beer!

[jesusfan]

Conine K's... 6-4 Reds after 7....

[Heath]

Most of the time when balls are hit that hard they have a natural curve or hook.

That one was straight. As an arrow.

[Marc D]

McBeth was throwing hard and keeping it down, which is a good sign (but they were hitting it).


They dinked him. The first hit was a bloop that JR let drop in.

All in all he looked ok to me.

[KronoRed]

Ross or Castro to PH from the right hand side -

I'd rather have Adam Dunn switch-hitting.

Dunn only plays because of his contract

[jesusfan]

Majic man in...

[jojo]

6 more outs....thats all it will take...

[Heath]

Gary Majewski's in.

Duck for cover.

[jesusfan]

Garko in... uh oh!

[Matt700wlw]

Are the Brewers losing?

[jesusfan]

Magic K's Garko! 1 down

[BCubb2003]

They dinked him. The first hit was a bloop that JR let drop in.

All in all he looked ok to me.

Yes, I thought he was making some good pitches.

[jesusfan]

Are the Brewers losing?

As I type Counsell just made it 1-0 in the 5th...

[Matt700wlw]

As I type Counsell just made it 1-0 in the 5th...

That no good, dirty, Brewer player guy!!!

[jesusfan]

Eddie boots it...

[MrCinatit]

That was scored as a base hit?
Interesting.

[Matt700wlw]

That was a 66 mph fastball :lol:


Stupid gun.

[BCubb2003]

Eddie boots it...

Maybe he needs to spend a weekend in Louisville.

[jesusfan]

C'mon BLUE!!!

[Matt700wlw]

This ump stinks

[jojo]

Delluci has some kind of eye

[jesusfan]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marc D]

wow

[Red in Chicago]

at least one of those had to be strike three

[MrCinatit]

Majewski getting squeezed like an old tube of toothpaste.

[KronoRed]

Umps don't like hippy hair

[Matt700wlw]

Yup...

[CTA513]

:laugh:

[jesusfan]

Thanks ump...