Reds vs Mariners...the finale...6/24/07

[Matt700wlw]

Hatteberg 1b
Phillips 2b
Griffey dh
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Hamilton cf
Gonzalez ss
Ross c
Hopper rf



Suzuki cf
Lopez 2b
Vidro dh
Sexson 1b
Broussard rf
Beltre 3b
Betancourt ss
Burke c
Bloomquist lf

[Big Klu]

Good lineup. I'm not surprised that Griffey is the DH on getaway day--when you pair that up with tomorrow's travel day, it's like giving him two days off.

[Matt700wlw]

Actually the real lineup is

Hopper LF
Castro 2B
Conine RF
Dunn DH
Valentin 1B
EE 3B
Hamilton CF
Gonzalez SS
Moeller C


:p:

(not really)

[VR]

Well...this sux..third row left field seats today just above the scoreboard...and no batting practice for either team

[Matt700wlw]

Well...this sux..third row left field seats today just above the scoreboard...and no batting practice for either team

Why? Bad weather? Wait, they have a roof...

[Tom Servo]

Hopper goes from leadoff to ninth in less than 24 hours.

[Big Klu]

I would have considered starting Conine in RF over Hopper, but I guess Jerry (and probably Hamilton) didn't want both Dunn and Conine in the OF at the same time! :p:

[VR]

Why? Bad weather? Wait, they have a roof...

I figured it was just to continue my torment for being a Reds fan

They are letting kids on the field right now ...so my 11 year old gets to do that

[KronoRed]

Hopper goes from leadoff to ninth in less than 24 hours.

And he should stay there...forever.

[Matt700wlw]

Lineup change....Hopper out, Valentin DH...

Hatteberg 1b
Phillips 2b
Griffey rf
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Hamilton cf
Gonzalez ss
Valentin dh
Ross c

[KronoRed]

Improvement :clap:

[Tom Servo]

that was confusing

[Matt700wlw]

He did it!!!

:griffey:

:jump:

[OnBaseMachine]

Griffey homers!

[guttle11]

Home run!

wait...

Home Run!

Weird play, but I like it!

[Red in Chicago]

ichiro swings like a girl:p:

[membengal]

Why was it a weird play? Seattle fans happy, I assume?

[Matt700wlw]

Ichiro does what Ichiro does.

19 game hitting streak.

[Matt700wlw]

Why was it a weird play? Seattle fans happy, I assume?

Definitely

[guttle11]

Why was it a weird play? Seattle fans happy, I assume?

It barely went out in left-center. Bloomquist just missed it, but it looked like he caught it. Griffey stopped for a few seconds before realizing it was, in fact, a home run.

[membengal]

Thanks guttle, stuck at the office, not able to hear or watch the game, I am effectively "blind" with regard to details.

[mth123]

Arroyo looking decent so far. Maybe the extra rest helped. Anyone heard about a gun reading on his fast ball?

I hope he's not pushed far today.

[Matt700wlw]

Sexson batting .210 with 14 HRs...that takes skill

[Matt700wlw]

I hope he's not pushed far today.

They'll only let him go 112 today

;)

[membengal]

mth, I am following on gamecast on mlb.com, and I believe it was showing upper 80s on a few pitches in the first.

[mth123]

They'll only let him go 112 today

;)

Innings or pitches?

[mth123]

mth, I am following on gamecast on mlb.com, and I believe it was showing upper 80s on a few pitches in the first.

That's not good then. Doesn't he normally work at 92 or so?

[membengal]

I remember him usually being between 88 and 92, so upper 80s isn't bad.

It's when his fastball was sitting at 85 and 86 last start that warning bells should have been going off for everyone associated with the Reds...

[mth123]

First and third with 2 outs. Ross up.

[cumberlandreds]

Sexson batting .210 with 14 HRs...that takes skill

Dave Kingman says HI! :wave:

[Matt700wlw]

Dave Kingman says HI! :wave:

Mad skillz

[mth123]

Ross K's.

[vaticanplum]

Wow, you turn up a little late and you miss Junior's homer.

[mth123]

Hatte walks.

[mth123]

Phillips FC. Looked like an ugly AB. Hatte out at 2B.

[mth123]

Griffey 1B. Phillips to 3B.

[redsmetz]

Wow, you turn up a little late and you miss Junior's homer.

I was perplexed when I heard Marty talking about it afterwards. I was cleaning and had just gone outside to dump some dirty water and came in, hearing the crowd cheering, but Marty's voice excited. I thought, "I thought the Reds were batting" - and then the light went on - Griff had homered - very surreal!

[mth123]

Dunn K's. Bashers are happy.

[Matt700wlw]

Ouch

[mth123]

George and Chris having obligatory productive outs discussion. EdE HBP.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn K's.


With a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs :p:

[Matt700wlw]

Hopefully EE's ok or we'll see Castro

[mth123]

Bases Loaded for Hammy.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Ouch, that one is gonna hurt for a WHILE... hopefully he's okay

[mth123]

Hopefully EE's ok or we'll see Castro

:yikes:

[mth123]

Hammy pops to shallow CF. 3 LOB.

[mth123]

Arroyo with his first K. I'm encouraged but he's been lucky a little. Griffey made a good catch and doubled the runner and Sexson just missed in his AB.

[mth123]

Bloop hit for Bloomquist.

[mth123]

Ichiro up. Second time through the order should tell a lot about Arroyo.

[mth123]

Arroyo K's Ichiro!!

[mth123]

Bloomquist caught stealing. Looked safe to me. Ross throw kind of high in spite of George's gushing about him.

[Caveat Emperor]

Bloomquist caught stealing. Looked safe to me. Ross throw kind of high in spite of George's gushing about him.

Looked safe to me as well. The ump appeared to be screened.

However, it didn't look like the runner protested too much. Usually when its a really bad call, the guy stealing the base jumps up like somebody just stole his prom date.

[Matt700wlw]

Roof closing. If there was a threat of rain, why was it open to begin with?

[mth123]

Reds out 1,2,3

[Mario-Rijo]

Roof closing. If there was a threat of rain, why was it open to begin with?

It's Seattle Matt, there's always a threat of rain! :evil:

[KronoRed]

We need a roof.

[Matt700wlw]

It's Seattle Matt, there's always a threat of rain! :evil:

Good point...

[mth123]

Arroyo gets lopez on a pop to 3B. Throwing 87 to 89 per the reading on TV.

[TOBTTReds]

Griffey just mentioned in an interview on FSN Northwest he would like to retire a Mariner.

[RBA]

I'm watching the M's broadcast and they had Jr on saying......

[mth123]

Vidro singled. Sexson popped to left on the first pitch.

[RBA]

Griffey just mentioned in an interview on FSN Northwest he would like to retire a Mariner.

He said he owed it the city and himself to retire as a Mariner. uh oh

[Matt700wlw]

Griffey just mentioned in an interview on FSN Northwest he would like to retire a Mariner.

I would be ok with, and understand, if the Reds traded him back to Seattle...

[RBA]

He did seem fearful of saying it however. Maybe he's fearful of a backlash from Reds fans?

[red-in-la]

I vote that we get JR his wish.....let him limp his way through the rest of his career in the great Northwest......

[mth123]

It may just mean he goes back in 2009 when the contract is done. I can't imagine Seattle giving much.

Bloop single 1st and 3rd.

[mth123]

Beltre GO 6-3. Arroyo battling.

[KronoRed]

Jr for Felix Hernandez and Morrow

Get it done :D

[vaticanplum]

Junior should leave his Mariners career as it stands, in my opinion.

[red-in-la]

I think JR wants to hit number 600 as a Mariner.

[TOBTTReds]

Junior should leave his Mariners career as it stands, in my opinion.

Dont let their fans know how he plays now. It would be like Jordan returning to the Bulls instead of the Wiz.

[RBA]

Wow. Ichiro

[mth123]

Ichiro with a nice catch off of Hatte.

[Matt700wlw]

Dont let their fans know how he plays now. It would be like Jordan returning to the Bulls instead of the Wiz.

He's not what he was defensively, but he's having a great year.


If he stays healthy, he can have more of them

[mth123]

Philips GO to 2B.

[RBA]

Junior up.

[RBA]

Gone!

[mth123]

Does Seattle have Tom Lawless to deal? Griffey another HR.

[Matt700wlw]

That was a BOMB

:griffey:

:jump:

[KronoRed]

He did seem fearful of saying it however. Maybe he's fearful of a backlash from Reds fans?

Oh I'm sure the local sports talk shows will have a few segments on how JR is evil because he said it ;)

[NDRed]

Griffey!

[guttle11]

No doubt about that one. Signature pose for the Seattle crowd.

It would be very cool if this game ended 3-0 on 3 Griffey homers...

[RFS62]

Wow

[Mario-Rijo]

He launched that one, WOW! And passed Big Mac at the same time.

[KronoRed]

JR is the man.

[Matt700wlw]

He knocked the dog poo out of that one

[red-in-la]

JR running a one man campaign to move himself to Seattle. Did you see the Mariners fans stand up and cheer when he hit the ball out? For a moment I though the color was messed up on my TV and he was really wearing a Mariners uniform.

[Red in Chicago]

I can understand why Junior said what he said about retiring a Mariner, but it really rubs me the wrong way.

[Matt700wlw]

I can understand why Junior said what he said about retiring a Mariner, but it really rubs me the wrong way.

Why? Because he was honest?


I don't know if Pete Rose ever said it publically, or was asked about it, but it's no different than him wanting to come home when the opportunity arose.

Whether or not the Reds trade him to Seattle, or anywhere....he could go there for the league minimum, or for cheap in 2009, as others have said.

[Caveat Emperor]

No doubt about that one. Signature pose for the Seattle crowd.

I'd love to know what was going through his mind when he stood there watching that one.

"Oh yeah, that one ain't coming back..."

[membengal]

Major league leader in HRs? Rodriguez with 28.

NL leader in HRs? Fielder with 26.

Next up, in either league? Jr. with 21 now.

To call this a resurgence is an understatement. To call it unforeseen is a vast understatement.

To call it a sight for sore eyes in the midst of a hellish year? Beyond understatement.

Good for Jr. In every respect.

[RFS62]

I can understand why Junior said what he said about retiring a Mariner, but it really rubs me the wrong way.



Doesn't bother me a bit.

Although, if he's smart, this will be his last game there. Pretty nice way to go out.

[KronoRed]

Doesn't bother me a bit.

Although, if he's smart, this will be his last game there. Pretty nice way to go out.

Yep, doesn't get better then this..unless he hits a few more :D

[cumberlandreds]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

[vaticanplum]

I missed it AGAIN, dangit!

[Matt700wlw]

I missed it AGAIN, dangit!

When you leave, he hits them.





Leave. ;)

[NDRed]

73 pitches thrown by Arroyo.

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

Mariner. Without a doubt.

He was going to the hall of fame before he ever came to Cincinnati.

[Red in Chicago]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

The HOF decides the player's cap and they'll certainly put him in as a Mariner.

[red-in-la]

Why? Because he was honest?


I don't know if Pete Rose ever said it publically, or was asked about it, but it's no different than him wanting to come home when the opportunity arose.

Whether or not the Reds trade him to Seattle, or anywhere....he could go there for the league minimum, or for cheap in 2009, as others have said.


2009? I am not sure that patience is a common attribute in professional athletes.

I would bet the next paycheck that phone calls are firing back and forth almost as we speak (because of cell phones).

[Caveat Emperor]

To call this a resurgence is an understatement. To call it unforeseen is a vast understatement.

To call it a sight for sore eyes in the midst of a hellish year? Beyond understatement.

Good for Jr. In every respect.

I have this cheesy little dream where this year, when Bonds inevitably breaks the all-time HR record, Ken Griffey Jr. quietly manages to hit his 62nd home run of the season sometime in September, making him the unofficial Home Run king in baseball.

It'd be a nice little story, at any rate.

[TOBTTReds]

The Griffey thing is like your girlfriend saying she would like to go back to her old boyfriend at some time because he was her first love.

[Matt700wlw]

2009? I am not sure that patience is a common attribute in professional athletes.

I would bet the next paycheck that phone calls are firing back and forth almost as we speak (because of cell phones).

That could be, but ultimately, it's up to the Reds.

[RBA]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

The only way Jr doesn't go in as a Mariner is he wins a couple MVP's as a Red and wins a couple NL Pennants and a WS ring. Maybe he would need a couple of gold gloves too.

[vaticanplum]

The HOF decides the player's cap and they'll certainly put him in as a Mariner.

Well, his career isn't over yet. if by some miracle of God Griffey continues this year as he's started it and continues to do it for three or four more years in Cincinnati, that could change things.

But otherwise, of course I agree with you.

[vaticanplum]

I have this cheesy little dream where this year, when Bonds inevitably breaks the all-time HR record, Ken Griffey Jr. quietly manages to hit his 62nd home run of the season sometime in September, making him the unofficial Home Run king in baseball.

It'd be a nice little story, at any rate.

That would be nice :)

[guttle11]

I have no problem with Junior saying what he said. Seattle fans seemed to understand when Junior wanted to come to Cincy...

[KronoRed]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

Mariner, no question, even if he plays 5 more years here he should go in as a Mariner

[red-in-la]

That could be, but ultimately, it's up to the Reds.

I think JR made it clear a few years ago that it is always up to JR.

[Matt700wlw]

I think JR made it clear a few years ago that it is always up to JR.

He can approve a trade to team x,y,z....but the Reds have to pull the trigger.


By the way, there have been talks before between the two clubs.

[red-in-la]

WHY is Hamilton not trying to steal?

[vaticanplum]

I'm going to go finish cleaning, maybe Griffey will crush a couple more...

[BCubb2003]

I wonder if Griffey will go into the HOF as a Red or Mariner? I think probably a Mariner. What do you all think?

The hat will be backwards, so no one can tell, but everyone will know.

[red-in-la]

He can approve a trade to team x,y,z....but the Reds have to pull the trigger.

I am quite sure that if JR's agent called Krivsky and said JR wants to play for Seattle within the week, it would happen no matter what Krivsky, Narron et al really wanted.

[Red in Chicago]

The hat will be backwards, so no one can tell, but everyone will know.

And with that great smile it would be some plaque to see:beerme:

[red-in-la]

Not to add to the trashing of Narron, but why oh why wasn't Hamilton trying to steal while Gonzo was batting? If he steals second, the Reds get a run when Valentin singles.

[membengal]

By the way, if I were running the Reds, no way would I let Arroyo get north of 100 pitches today, regardless of the situation or score...

[Red in Chicago]

Will all these stranded runners come back to haunt us:bang:

[red-in-la]

I just get so sick of the wasted opportunities by this team......

[Caveat Emperor]

Will all these stranded runners come back to haunt us:bang:

On a team something close to 15 games out of first, does it really matter?

[jojo]

Ichiro actually saws his bat before the game in order to hits those...

[NDRed]

Castro at third base.

[guttle11]

Get Arroyo out now.

[Matt700wlw]

For some reason Castro is playing 3rd for Encarnacion. Probably for "defensive purposes"


:bang:

[KronoRed]

EE hurt?

[Caveat Emperor]

Get Arroyo out now.

At 77 pitches?

[guttle11]

For some reason Castro is playing 3rd for Encarnacion. Probably for "defensive purposes"


:bang:

Edwin got hit in the arm/elbow. It probably swelled to the size of a softball.

[jojo]

Uggggghhhhhhh, the Ms are sacrificing....


Yaaaaaaaaaaaa, the M's are sacrificing....

[Matt700wlw]

I don't know if the bullpen is stirring or not...

[guttle11]

At 77 pitches?

I didn't realize it was that low until after I posted.

Get someone ready...

[Matt700wlw]

Edwin got hit in the arm/elbow. It probably swelled to the size of a softball.

Hopefully that's the reason. Not because I want Eddie hurt, but so the move is justified.

[KronoRed]

Get Arroyo out now.

Agreed, a blow up is in the cards here

[guttle11]

Manos de Oro!

Edit: It was a terrible throw home. Ross did the best work there.

[Matt700wlw]

Ichiro was running all over the place....out of the baseline...

[RBA]

What a piss poor job of umpiring. Ichy should of been called out way before he was and the runners should of never advanced.

[Matt700wlw]

awesome.

Tie game.

[SteelSD]

What a piss poor job of umpiring. Ichy should of been called out way before he was and the runners should of never advanced.

You're absolutely correct. That was inexcusable umpiring.

Edit: And it just cost the Reds a Run on the ground rule double by Broussard.

[guttle11]

You could see that coming from a mile away. Bronson has junk this inning.

Get him out of the game! Bronson should be a five inning pitcher for the time being.

[Tom Servo]

Told you we never should have traded Bender!

[Red in Chicago]

Shocking...Arroyo with a pitch right down the middle that Ray Charles could have hit

[CTA513]

Reds pitching blows a lead.... :eek:

[RBA]

I'm hoping Jr is on 1st base in the ninth and goes from first to home on a double to score what will be the winning run as the rest of the team jumps on top of him.

[Red in Chicago]

91 pitches so far. Let the bully take over and take your chances.

[Matt700wlw]

Told you we never should have traded Bender!

Who?

[guttle11]

I'm hoping Jr is on 1st base in the ninth and goes from first to home on a double to score what will be the winning run as the rest of the team jumps on top of him.

That would be funny.

"The Reds dogpile on Griffey at home!!!...

and we go to the bottom of the ninth, Beltre to lead off."

[KronoRed]

That would be funny.

"The Reds dogpile on Griffey at home!!!...

and we go to the bottom of the ninth, Beltre to lead off."

:laugh::laugh:

[guttle11]

Darn you Ben Broussard!

Nice catch.

[RBA]

robbed!

[guttle11]

Griffey up again...

[Matt700wlw]

Nice catch

[guttle11]

Wow, I think those last two pitches were perfect. Nothing you can really do.

[RBA]

Ump wasn't very charitable to the future Hall of Famer.

[OnBaseMachine]

Two horrible strike calls on Griffey.

[RBA]

Caught Dunn napping on that one.

[guttle11]

Will you please get Bronson out of the game...

Same old same old.

Castro never even looked at Bettencourt, awesome.

[Matt700wlw]

Wow....he was safe?

No one arguing...wow...nice slide.

[RBA]

Castro missed the tag. Darn it.

[guttle11]

Well, this one's as good as over. Narron once again leaves a pitcher in way past his time, and the Reds are predictably losing in the toughest/most laughable ways possible.

[Matt700wlw]

Someone finally warming up in the bullpen

[Red in Chicago]

Is anyone warming up?

[Caveat Emperor]

Well, this one's as good as over. Narron once again leaves a pitcher in way past his time, and the Reds are predictably losing in the toughest/most laughable ways possible.

Double, sac bunt, suicide squeeze.

Not like Arroyo is getting hammered or anything...

[RBA]

Now we wait for the clearing base hit/homerun that we know is going to happen before Arroyo is removed.

[Matt700wlw]

Baseball fundamentals....it baffles the Reds.

However, we hear how they're going to "play the game the right way"

[Matt700wlw]

Narron looking on thinking...."what just happened?"

[guttle11]

Double, sac bunt, suicide squeeze.

Not like Arroyo is getting hammered or anything...

No, but he's out of gas. He's much more likely to give up a big one than a fresh bullpen arm.*

*I know how bad the bullpen is, too.

[jojo]

This has been a great inning and a frustrating one for an Ms/Reds fan....

We'll probably get to see Putz today though....

no matter which side you're rooting for, this game is so much better than the previous two...

[Matt700wlw]

Here comes the dinger...

[SteelSD]

If Arroyo had just taken the Outs he was offered...grrrrr.

[CTA513]

Time to give up a grandslam.

[Matt700wlw]

Arroyo at 104 pitches

[Aronchis]

Arroyo had been getting lucky all day, of course that luck runs out and Narron does the waltz. The guy's arm is tired, maybe worse. We can all see it. He should be DL'd and given a full examination.

[Matt700wlw]

Arroyo had been getting lucky all day, of course that luck runs out and Narron does the waltz. The guy's arm is tired, maybe worse. We can all see it. He should be DL'd and given a full examination.

I think the examination comes first :p:

[RBA]

Wow, just foul. Game of inches and Sexton goes down swinging. YES!

[jojo]

righ now my heart is in my throte....

[Matt700wlw]

Wow..nice pitch...got him!

[guttle11]

Well, it worked out, which is cool. Still liked the odds better with a fresh arm. Not only that, but Bronson's right arm is much more important than this single game.

[jojo]

huge K

[KronoRed]

Will he be back out?

[Red in Chicago]

109 pitches...Jerry contemplating the 8th inning for Bronson:rolleyes:

[Caveat Emperor]

If Arroyo had just taken the Outs he was offered...grrrrr.

I can't necessarily disagree with going to 3rd on that play. A good throw beats the runner and a good tag on that throw makes the out.

[Matt700wlw]

Will he be back out?

I would doubt it

[jojo]

an epic battle between lefty death and lefty power to begin the 8th.....

[KronoRed]

I would doubt it

With Narron I'd say it's 50/50

[RBA]

Will he be back out?

I just asked the magic eight ball http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

"Outlook not so good."

MAGIC EIGHT BALL SAYS:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/images/4.gif

[guttle11]

an epic battle between lefty death and lefty power to begin the 8th.....

It was a very fast epic...:laugh:

[jojo]

Take tha LOOGY.......a one pitch battle was a bit anticlimatic though. BTW, the Brewers lost....

[guttle11]

It would be very fitting for Castro to go yard here...

[Caveat Emperor]

Its a good thing Castro has a reputation as a defensive wiz, because he's slow as hell and hits like he spends his off days in a nursing home.

[jojo]

I just asked the magic eight ball http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

"Outlook not so good."

MAGIC EIGHT BALL SAYS:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/images/4.gif

I just asked it if the Reds will win...the answer....yes.....

[KronoRed]

BTW, the Brewers lost....

We're not chasing them we're chasing the Pirates

[Matt700wlw]

It's a good thing Castro is already in for EE....he would be pinch hitting here to "get something started" against the lefty

[Matt700wlw]

We're not chasing them we're chasing the Pirates

The Reds are chasing themselves. I don't know what that means, but it sounds good.

[jojo]

although, it just predicted I'd marry Jessica Simpson too...

[OnBaseMachine]

What an absolute ridiculous strike two call on Josh Hamilton. That is one of the worst strike calls I have seen this year. And now he K's. Unreal. What a horrible call.

[KronoRed]

The Reds are chasing themselves. I don't know what that means, but it sounds good.

Like a snake chasing its own tail

[Caveat Emperor]

although, it just predicted I'd marry Jessica Simpson too...

But it just said you were full of crap, so I don't know what to believe now.

[jojo]

well lefty death won that round and now it's time for a multi-inning save attempt by Putz...

[919191]

although, it just predicted I'd marry Jessica Simpson too...

What does it say about if she would marry you?:)

[guttle11]

What an absolute ridiculous strike two call on Josh Hamilton. That is one of the worst strike calls I have seen this year. And now he K's. Unreal. What a horrible call.

He's been calling that pitch all day. Bad or not(I'd disagree with you), it's consistent. I'm fine with that. Swing the bat.

[RBA]

I just asked it if the Reds will win...the answer....yes.....

I asked it if Junior will score again today and it said "My sources say NO"

Than, I ask it if Junior will hit another homerun today and it said "Definitely".

[jojo]

But it just said you were full of crap, so I don't know what to believe now.

well it thinks you'll marry George Clooney, so I guess you be the judge....

[Matt700wlw]

Every so often Eddie's replacement now in....Putz

[guttle11]

Putz going for the Stormy.

[jojo]

I asked it if Junior will score again today and it said "My sources say NO"

Than, I ask it if Junior will hit another homerun today and it said "Definitely".

Maybe it will be a walk off 3-run homer and he'll never actually touch the plate...oh wait, he's not an M anymore.... :beerme:

[MrCinatit]

I asked it if Junior will score again today and it said "My sources say NO"

Than, I ask it if Junior will hit another homerun today and it said "Definitely".

That means he will hit a homer, and pass a runner or forget to tag a base. So, it could still be right!

[OnBaseMachine]

He's been calling that pitch all day. Bad or not(I'd disagree with you), it's consistent. I'm fine with that. Swing the bat.

That pitch is unhittable. Six inches above the ground and six inches outside is unhittable. A hitter shouldn't have to swing at that pitch. The plate is there for a reason. I so hope MLB starts using Questec full-time, I'm tired of these horrible balls and strikes calls. Hitters over 6'3" or 6'4" are constantly screwed night in and night out.

[RBA]

Maybe it will be a walk off 3-run homer and he'll never actually touch the plate

No walk off possible with the M's having another at bat.

But maybe he hits the 3 run homerun and misses a base while admiring it going over the fence and he's called out on appeal by the Mariners.

[jojo]

That pitch is unhittable. Six inches above the ground and six inches outside is unhittable. A hitter shouldn't have to swing at that pitch. The plate is there for a reason. I so hope MLB starts using Questec full-time, I'm tired of these horrible balls and strikes calls. Hitters over 6'3" or 6'4" are constantly screwed night in and night out.

Greg Maddox won't be sending you a christmas card this year.

[jojo]

What does it say about if she would marry you?:)

maybe.... I'm afraid to ask the 8ball what my wife would do to me though....

[CTA513]

McBeth with a 1-2-3 inning.

[jojo]

anyone up for extra innings?

[Matt700wlw]

Another standing ovation for Griffey...and a tip of the cap.


Pretty cool stuff.

[jojo]

nice response by the Safeco crowd as Jr left the field...

[Matt700wlw]

Well, Arroyo was better today....but, yet again, his mistake blows the lead for the Reds.

[Matt700wlw]

Reds are 1-40 when trailing after 8 this season.

Stellar.

[guttle11]

That pitch is unhittable. Six inches above the ground and six inches outside is unhittable. A hitter shouldn't have to swing at that pitch. The plate is there for a reason. I so hope MLB starts using Questec full-time, I'm tired of these horrible balls and strikes calls. Hitters over 6'3" or 6'4" are constantly screwed night in and night out.


I saw a pitch that was right at the knees.

But that's beyond the point. The umpire is calling the pitch a strike. Don't give me "He can't hit that pitch." That tells me it was a great pitch. Close enough to be called a strike, and unhittable...great pitch.

Swing the bat. You just may get a hit. Not to mention he whiffed on a hittable third strike.

Let's not blame the umpire every time.

[jojo]

Putz is hitting 95 on the gametracker.....

[Matt700wlw]

Conine for Ross....that one I can see.

[mth123]

I had to step out a while. I'm flabbergasted that Narron left Arroyo in for 7 innings. Given his recent struggles and talk of tiredness, I'd think a 90 pitch or so limit should have been enforced.

It sounded like some bad defense contributed to the 3rd run and a bad call maybe the 2nd, but his arm is more important than this game.

Good inning by McBeth BTW.

[jojo]

Conine to bat in a veteran situation

[LINEDRIVER]

Conine....ZERO homers on the road this year

[OnBaseMachine]

I saw a pitch that was right at the knees.


Maybe if Hamilton was 5'10".

[OnBaseMachine]

Conine....ZERO homers on the road this year

And ZERO against RHP.

[jojo]

BTW, it the reds don't come back then that means Narron was basically out managed by Hargrove. That is grounds for dismissal....

[Matt700wlw]

BTW, it the reds don't come back then that means Narron was basically out managed by Hargrove. That is grounds for dismissal....

He'll make the trip to Philly.

[jojo]

This should be a good battle.....Hatteberg vs Putz for the enchilada....

[Matt700wlw]

Putz has some serious fire on that fastball

[jojo]

anyone else sweating in here from the heat?

[CTA513]

Another loss for Arroyo.

[Matt700wlw]

anyone else sweating in here from the heat?

I am, because the A/C isn't working right...

[jojo]

I am, because the A/C isn't working right...

well next up: Homer against Howard....

[KronoRed]

Another series loss

[Kc61]

Well, Arroyo was better today....but, yet again, his mistake blows the lead for the Reds.

This one is on the offense. Arroyo did ok.

Reds just too dependent on home run, have too much trouble in games like this, particularly in bigger ballparks.

They had some chances to score some runs today, but team doesn't get the big single. Last two games, three runs, all solo homers.

Looking forward to Votto, Bruce, Valaika. Some higher average hitters.

[jojo]

local 12 news just flashed a poll-which do you think will happen sooner:
A. Narron fired;
B. Dunn traded;

Losing sucks.

[MrCinatit]

I consider myself as big as a Reds fan out there as anyone else - but my interest in this team has simply tanked in a major way at this point.
It is going to take a major organizational commitment and turnaround to revive my interest - at least this year. Being mentioned as one of the three organizations this morning on ESPN did not help one little bit.

[jojo]

Another series loss

Well if nothing else, hopefully this weekend has erased some of the bitterness Jr may have felt from things that happened when he departed Seattle.

[KittyDuran]

This one is on the offense. Arroyo did ok.

Reds just too dependent on home run, have too much trouble in games like this, particularly in bigger ballparks.

They had some chances to score some runs today, but team doesn't get the big single. Last two games, three runs, all solo homers.

Looking forward to Votto, Bruce, Valaika. Some higher average hitters.I think BA did much better than I thought... and I agree that the offense needs to step up and keep it consistent. After the 16 run blow out in the first game I was hoping that the team would save some for the rest of the series. :(

[WVRedsFan]

I consider myself as big as a Reds fan out there as anyone else - but my interest in this team has simply tanked in a major way at this point.
It is going to take a major organizational commitment and turnaround to revive my interest - at least this year. Being mentioned as one of the three organizations this morning on ESPN did not help one little bit.

missed that. What was that all about?

[traderumor]

No, but he's out of gas. He's much more likely to give up a big one than a fresh bullpen arm.*

*I know how bad the bullpen is, too.Not with Coffey being the one warming up.

[MrCinatit]

missed that. What was that all about?

Just a general rant :)

[WVRedsFan]

Just a general rant :)No, not that. The ESPN story about the three franchises.

[MrCinatit]

Ah, sorry - it wasn't so much of a story as a mention that the Reds were part of the "three R's" - and the three worst teams in baseball - in the Royals, Rangers and Reds.
It was something I already knew, but having it blatantly pointed out was a nice little kick in the you knows.
It was not so much of a story, but a blurb before some game highlights.

[WVRedsFan]

Ah, sorry - it wasn't so much of a story as a mention that the Reds were part of the "three R's" - and the three worst teams in baseball - in the Royals, Rangers and Reds.
It was something I already knew, but having it blatantly pointed out was a nice little kick in the you knows.
It was not so much of a story, but a blurb before some game highlights.

E-Gads...

Hope Mr. Castellini was watching, he of the bringing greatness back to Cincinnati fame. He hired Krivsky and Krivsky agreed with him to extend Narron. Bad decisions resulting in the above perception.

Way to go, guys!

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Ken Griffey, Jr. on passing Mark McGwire for seventh place on MLB's all-time home run list (584), and for tying Vada Pinson for ninth place on the Reds' all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 218
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96