6/30/07 - Reds vs. Cardinals

[Tom Servo]

Lineups per Fay:



CARDINALS
Miles, ss
Schumaker, cf
Pujols, 1b
Duncan, lf
Rolen, 3b
J. Encarnacion, rf
Kennedy, 2b
Molina, c
Wainwright, rhp

REDS
Hatteberg, 1b
Phillips, 2b
Griffey Jr., rf
Dunn, lf
E. Encarnacion, 3b
Hamilton, cf
Gonzalez, ss
Ross, c
Lohse, rhp

[Matt700wlw]

Game #81...

30-50...worst first half in 73 years

[Caveat Emperor]

Game #81...

30-50...worst first half in 73 years

At least in the NFL you can claim you're playing for a draft pick.

[Tom Servo]

Apathy [ap-uh-thee] -
noun, plural -thies.
1. absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement.
2. lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.

[Matt700wlw]

Lively group.

[guttle11]

I gave up on tonight when Narron sacrificed Phillips to move Hatteberg to third with no outs.

Goodness. Telling him to make sure he hits the ball to the right side is one thing, to give up an out is criminal.

[WVRedsFan]

Marty railing on the No. 4 hitter.

Question...why would you worry about moving the runner over since the Reds hits so poorly with RISP? If they score, more often than not, it's via the HR, so what does it matter what base they're on? Just asking.

[Matt700wlw]

I gave up on tonight when Narron sacrificed Phillips to move Hatteberg to third with no outs.

Goodness. Telling him to make sure he hits the ball to the right side is one thing, to give up an out is criminal.

Not a fan of small ball, I see....

:p:

[Matt700wlw]

Phillies interested in Lohse?


Sweet!

[WVRedsFan]

Phillies interested in Lohse?


Sweet!

Who do they have we want?

[Matt700wlw]

Who do they have we want?

A warm body who maybe someday will pitch better than Kyle Lohse?

[Matt700wlw]

Does the Lohse implosion loom?

1st and 3rd, 1 out

[Matt700wlw]

Bob Gebhart, of the D-backs has been lurking around checking out the Reds club...


They need a bat....a big, strong bat.

[WVRedsFan]

A warm body who maybe someday will pitch better than Kyle Lohse?


Good answer.

Hal said only the Lohse trade rumor was active. Talking about trading Dunn with glee. Good grief.

[Reds Fanatic]

Sac. fly makes it 1-0 Cardinals.

[Matt700wlw]

No implosion!

[MrCinatit]

The difference between a last baseball club and another club:
A last place club will place a man on third with the cleanup coming up. Cleanup pops up, no run.
Other clubs will place a man on third - and someone besides the cleanup will come up. Other batter flies out, run scores.

Doing the little things: The difference between last and not being last. The Reds have been infamous for not doing the little things for several years, now - and it is starting to get quite painful.

[OnBaseMachine]

Bob Gebhart, of the D-backs has been lurking around checking out the Reds club...


They need a bat....a big, strong bat.

The D-Backs would be a great trading partner for the Reds. Their system is loaded with young talent.

[CTA513]

Lohse is lucky that Molina only got a sac fly off the ball and not a 3-run homerun.

[CTA513]

The difference between a last baseball club and another club:
A last place club will place a man on third with the cleanup coming up. Cleanup pops up, no run.
Other clubs will place a man on third - and someone besides the cleanup will come up. Other batter flies out, run scores.

Doing the little things: The difference between last and not being last. The Reds have been infamous for not doing the little things for several years, now - and it is starting to get quite painful.

Other clubs would let the hitter try and get the runner over to third from second by swinging the bat instead of bunting right away.

[Matt700wlw]

Note to other clubs...

#33 is NOT available :D

[MrCinatit]

Other clubs would let the hitter try and get the runner over to third from second by swinging the bat instead of bunting right away.

I was still rubbing the sleep out of my eyes when that happened :p:
Why do I seem to be regretting waking up to watch the game anymore?

[Matt700wlw]

I was still rubbing the sleep out of my eyes when that happened :p:
Why do I seem to be regretting waking up to watch the game anymore?

You sleep late

[Caveat Emperor]

Doing the little things: The difference between last and not being last. The Reds have been infamous for not doing the little things for several years, now - and it is starting to get quite painful.

Other teams routinely fail in the same situations -- you just don't follow other teams 162 games a year the way you do the Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Matt:

Do you pick the bumper music on the broadcasts? If so, what was that thing you just played. I can't get it out of my head.

Now, back to baseball, or whatever you want to call this?

[Matt700wlw]

Matt:

Do you pick the bumper music on the broadcasts? If so, what was that thing you just played. I can't get it out of my head.

Now, back to baseball, or whatever you want to call this?

It's on a rotation....I think the last one was 50 Cent

[WVRedsFan]

It's on a rotation....I think the last one was 50 Cent

Now, I recognize it--on my son's CD compilation. Thanks!

[Reds Fanatic]

Inning ends as Phillips is caught stealing. 1-0 Cards after 3.

[MrCinatit]

You sleep late

I work overnight.


Other teams routinely fail in the same situations -- you just don't follow other teams 162 games a year the way you do the Reds.

This is very true. In all honesty, there have been times watching a game on ESPN when a team will fail to do one of the little things, and all I can do is shake my head.

[Matt700wlw]

I work overnight.




That would explain it. :D

It's ok....I sleep late too, because I stay up way too late.

[Matt700wlw]

Phillips can pick it

[MrCinatit]

That would explain it. :D

It's ok....I sleep late too, because I stay up way too late.

Yeah - but your job is cooler :D

[Matt700wlw]

Yeah - but your job is cooler :D

Yours pays more :D

But yeah, mine is pretty cool. :D

[Matt700wlw]

Griffey just got under that one...

[jesusfan]

I just hope Lohse pitches well over the next 2 or 3 starts so we can flip him for a prospect and rid some of his salary...

[jesusfan]

c'mon Dunn solo...

[jesusfan]

1-2-3 inning... after 4 1-0 Cardinals...

[Reds Fanatic]

Through 4 the only Reds hit is the ball Duncan lost in the sun.

[BoydsOfSummer]

I think Chris Duncan might be a worse OF than Dunner. He reminds me of watching Dmitri Young when he was out there for the Reds. Every ball is an adventure.

[Aronchis]

If I was a GM, I would ask: When is Kyle going to go through one of his good periods? Krivsky: I just asked him, he said in 2 weeks, talk to you then....;)

[Reds Fanatic]

5th K of the night for Lohse. 1-0 Cards mid 5th.

[Matt700wlw]

I think Chris Duncan might be a worse OF than Dunner.

Some would say that is impossible :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton leads off with an infield hit.

[Matt700wlw]

Give that Lakota kid a contract...he can throw strikes

:D

[jesusfan]

Hamilton is a very rare blend of speed and power...

[jesusfan]

wow... gonzo... wow...

[Matt700wlw]

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6956.jpg

:jump:

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross homers to left. 2-1 Reds.

[jesusfan]

Thank you Ross! 2-1 Reds

[WVRedsFan]

Like I said, why sacrifice the runner over. We're only going to score with the HR anyway.

I'll take it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg with a ground rule double to right.

[jesusfan]

Another reason to love Mr. Hat!

[jesusfan]

Hatte has to look good to some GM out there looking for a veteran stick for the playoff run...

[Matt700wlw]

Another reason to love Mr. Hat!

http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/SOP/pzBUSOP0012.jpg

[jesusfan]

Ball bounces in the dirt but George says its just a little low... lol

[MrCinatit]

Hatte has to look good to some GM out there looking for a veteran stick for the playoff run...

Very true.
I would hate to lose the guy - I really would. I like him, but if the right kind of deal is worked out, he could help us out in the future.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to end the inning. 2-1 Reds after 5.

[Red in Chicago]

Sure would be nice to be able to actually hold the lead for a change.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice pitch

[Matt700wlw]

Settle down, Lohse.

[KronoRed]

Sure would be nice to be able to actually hold the lead for a change.

No fun in that ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Oh boy...here we go...

[Red in Chicago]

The wheels are about to come off. Is anyone warming up yet?

[MrCinatit]

I believe anyone who has ever watched Lohse knows he is starting to become unwound.

[Matt700wlw]

The wheels are about to come off. Is anyone warming up yet?

Probably not.

[Red in Chicago]

Back to back boring interviews. Can we talk about the game fellas

[MrCinatit]

Fortunately, Loshse pulls himself together.
I am happy to be wrong.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm stunned he got out of that.


Shows the confidence I have in Kyle Lohse

[Reds Fanatic]

Lohse gets his 6th K of the game as the Cards strand 2 runners on base. 2-1 Reds mid 6th.

[KronoRed]

Glad Milt..I mean Lohse got out of that one

[Red in Chicago]

Nice job by Lohse getting out of a jam. Looks like he'll be around for another inning

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior leads off with a walk.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn singles. 1st and 3rd.

[Red in Chicago]

If George says that something is "special" one more time today, I'm going to scream.

[Matt700wlw]

Loaded - 0 outs

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion walks. Bases loaded with no outs.

[jesusfan]

Hambone with bases juiced... mmm!!

[Red in Chicago]

Bases loaded, no one out. Will we score?

[jesusfan]

c'mon up that RBI total to 41...

[jesusfan]

2-0.... Swing with all your might.. .nothing to lose...

[jesusfan]

3-0

[Red in Chicago]

Anyone else surprised of no pitching change here ?

[Reds Fanatic]

A 4 pitch walk to Hamilton. 3-1 Reds!

[jesusfan]

4 straight balls... 3-1 Reds bases still jacked for Gonzo...

[KronoRed]

Walks rock.

[jesusfan]

I'd like to punch LaRussa right in the throat...

[BCubb2003]

A rare case where pure OBP drives in a run.

[WVRedsFan]

This is Reds pitching. Glad someone else has to endure this.

Tony out for the pitching change.

Hear the rumors about Tony being our manager next year?

[MrCinatit]

Wow. That is some terrible pitching.
And, some good patience at the plate by the Reds.

[TeamCasey]

I'd like to punch LaRussa right in the throat...

jesus wouldn't like that. ;)

[Red in Chicago]

Gonzo 3 for 7 w/bases loaded.

[Reds Fanatic]

Russ Springer in to pitch.

[Matt700wlw]

The dreaded wave has begun...

[jesusfan]

Gonzo looks lost..

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez hit by the pitch. 4-1 Reds!

[MrCinatit]

Wow - an RBI the hard way by Gonzo, who takes one on the arm for the team.

[jesusfan]

Nice... Is that Coffee on the mound...

[jesusfan]

C'mon Rossie!

[CTA513]

Are we sure the Reds and Cardinals didn't switch uniforms?

[MrCinatit]

The dreaded wave has begun...

I thought those went out of style when Flock of Seagulls went out of style.

[jesusfan]

squeeze?

[Reds Fanatic]

Ross strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[Red in Chicago]

Reds with 2 runs scoring without a hit so far. Can someone please hit the ball already

[jesusfan]

Lohse with a huge SAC!

[Reds Fanatic]

Lohse with a sac. fly to right! 5-1 Reds!

[Matt700wlw]

Lohse!!

[Chip R]

Gonzalez hit by the pitch. 4-1 Reds!


Springer should be suspended! ;)

[Red in Chicago]

Lohse doing the little things

[MrCinatit]

Lohse with a loooooooong sac fly!
And Juan E was having an adventure with that.

[Matt700wlw]

That was big :thumbup:

[Chip R]

Lohse with a huge SAC!


:eek:

[Red in Chicago]

3 runs now without a hit...unbelievable

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg grounds out to 1st. 5-1 Reds after 6.

[KronoRed]

3 runs now without a hit...unbelievable

It's awesome :laugh:

[Red in Chicago]

How is it that Molina always seems to hit against the Reds?

[BCubb2003]

Springer should be suspended! ;)

Keep him off the All-Star team!

[Reds Fanatic]

Miles is hit by the pitch. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

[Red in Chicago]

Reds seem determined to let the Cards back in the game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lohse's 8th K ends the inning. 5-1 Reds mid 7th.

[Red in Chicago]

Lohse gets out of it again. Will he be back out for another inning?

[Reds Fanatic]

108 pitches for Lohse so it is probably the bullpen for the last 2 innnings.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kip Wells in to pitch.

[Matt700wlw]

Kip Wells was a brilliant signing by Jockety and Co.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior walks for the 3rd time tonight.

[Bob Borkowski]

Thom says no action in the Reds bullpen.

[jesusfan]

Brantley says he wouldnt put Frank Thomas in the hall? I disagree big time!

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion doubles off the wall in left. 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

[KronoRed]

Brantley says he wouldnt put Frank Thomas in the hall? I disagree big time!

That insane, he's a hall of famer

[Gallen5862]

ESPNNEWS said Cardinals were up 5-1 on their crawl. I am glad I checked game thread to see the Reds are winning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton strikes out swinging. 5-1 Reds after 7.

[Bob Borkowski]

Brantley says he wouldnt put Frank Thomas in the hall? I disagree big time!

What was his reason?

[BCubb2003]

Reds have an ERA of 6 in the eighth inning.

[Red in Chicago]

Brantley says he wouldnt put Frank Thomas in the hall? I disagree big time!

I had the priviledge of seeing Thomas play a lot. He definately is a hall of famer. However, his interaction with the media hasn't always been the best and all his time as a DH may keep him from making it the first time. I would disagree with that, but could see it happening.

[Chip R]

What was his reason?

Cause he put up a lot of those numbers as a DH.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper in to play left.

[Gallen5862]

ESPNNEWS said Cardinals were up 5-1 on their crawl. I am glad I checked game thread to see the Reds are winning.

They just got true score posted on their crawl now lol.

[Matt700wlw]

Why can't Lohse do this on a more consistant basis?

[Reds Fanatic]

A 4 pitch walk to Pujols. Don't get why Lohse is still in at 112 pitches.

[Matt700wlw]

Lohse gone.

Bullpen in.

Beer cracked (ok, I wish)

[Reds Fanatic]

Gosling in to pitch.

[Matt700wlw]

I guess Lohse's job was to face the righty Pujols...to whom he issued a walk

[KronoRed]

Cause he put up a lot of those numbers as a DH.

I hate the DH just as much as anyone but numbers are numbers.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice work tonight by Lohse.....trade him immediately :D

[jesusfan]

Why can't Lohse do this on a more consistant basis?

Because he is inconsistent... lol

[Chip R]

Why can't Lohse do this on a more consistant basis?


Because he's Kyle Lohse.

[jesusfan]

Gosling!

[Reds Fanatic]

Duncan strikes out looking. 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Gosling gone.

Jerry LaRussa strikes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another pitching change.

[Matt700wlw]

Stormy time.

[Rojo]

A Mauch Moment.

[Matt700wlw]

Stormy for 7 outs in a non-saving situation.

[jesusfan]

Stormy for 7 outs in a non-saving situation.

nope... only 5 outs... And with the Reds, this is a save situation...

[Reds Fanatic]

Weathers in to pitch, Castro in to play 3rd.

Rolen flies out. 2 outs.

[jesusfan]

Weathers is his own set-up man...

[Matt700wlw]

nope... only 5 outs... And with the Reds, this is a save situation...

Yeah...5...

I did good in math

[Matt700wlw]

Castro is now playing third.

[jesusfan]

Castro throws wide, but Hatte slaps the tag... bottom of 8 5-1 Reds...

[Reds Fanatic]

J. Encarnacion grounds out to 3rd. 5-1 Reds after 8.

[Matt700wlw]

Narron needing this game to save his job for another day :p:

[flyer85]

JN able to insert Hopper and Castro in the same inning, he will sleep well tonight.

[MrCinatit]

George luvs him some Cardinals.

[Reds Fanatic]

5-1 Reds after 8.

Due up for the Cardinals in the 9th.

Kennedy, Molina, Ludwick

[Red in Chicago]

Ross and Castro showing some "blazing" speed on that double play.

[Matt700wlw]

3 more for the win!

[LINEDRIVER]

wasnt Castro really safe??

[Reds Fanatic]

Kennedy grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[TOBTTReds]

Yeah...5...

I did good in math

English too...;)

[Kc61]

If Reds hold on they will have finished the first half 31 and 50. Translates to 62 and 100. Hundred losses.

[Matt700wlw]

English too...;)

I dun did good in that their two.

[Reds Fanatic]

Molina pops out to short. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

If Reds hold on they will have finished the first half 31 and 50. Translates to 62 and 100. Hundred losses.That record is one game worse than the 1982 Reds who were 32-49 at the half way point.

[Gallen5862]

Let's get the last out Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ludwick grounds out to 2nd. Reds win 5-1 :beerme:

[Gallen5862]

"And This one belongs to the Reds."

[Matt700wlw]

Even crappy teams win sometimes!

[MrCinatit]

Even if they come far and few between, a win is always very nice.

[KronoRed]

Now..can we win an actual series for once? ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Now..can we win an actual series for once? ;)

You're picky ;)

[KronoRed]

Nah I'd just like to avoid 100 losses

[Bob Borkowski]

That record is one game worse than the 1982 Reds who were 32-49 at the half way point.

In their recap ESPN mentions that the 2005 Reds also were 31-50.

[WVRedsFan]

Gm81 Wed, Jul 7 box CIN @PIT W 6-3 32-49 6 18.5 2:34

According to baseball-reference.com, the 1982 team was 32-49 at this point.

FWIW.


81 box CIN HOU W 11-6 31-49 6 19.0 2:43

And the 2005 Reds were better than the 2007 version. Wow. What improvement.

[jojo]

Woohoo! The Reds turned a corner tonight!

[Big Klu]

I would like to remind everyone not to get googly-eyed about Kyle Lohse tonight. He is nothing but a tease--but hopefully, if he can string together a couple more outings like this one, the Reds can trade him and he can be someone else's tease.

[WVRedsFan]

I would like to remind everyone not to get googly-eyed about Kyle Lohse tonight. He is nothing but a tease--but hopefully, if he can string together a couple more outings like this one, the Reds can trade tim and he can be someone else's tease.

So true. Lohse is Jeckyl and Hyde. One start he's Superman and the enxt start he's Truman Capote. His overall stats don't look too bad, but in the end, he's not effective. Time to cut another Minnesota reject and our losses.

[MrCinatit]

I would like to remind everyone not to get googly-eyed about Kyle Lohse tonight. He is nothing but a tease--but hopefully, if he can string together a couple more outings like this one, the Reds can trade tim and he can be someone else's tease.

In a perfect world, last night would have been his showcase, and he would virtually be on the way to another team before he makes a start. Every start he makes after this one has more of a potential to decrease his trade value than increase it.
Unfortunately, in this world, I think he will get a few more chances. I even have the fear that "the right offer won't come along", and Wayne will stick with him - but I hope that fear is unfounded.

[Big Klu]

Did anyone else hear Brantley tell his story about his curveball tonight? It was hilarious! He said that as a young college pitcher he was very proud of his big, breaking curve because he could see the break from the mound. Well, his coach at Mississippi State asked him, "If you can see the break, don't you think the batter can, too?" He said, "I guess so. I hadn't thought of that." Then his coach said, "Shorter is better." And Brantley then replied, "Not in my experience!" Then both Brantley and George laughed. (Though I don't think George knew what he was laughing about!)

[jojo]

Did anyone else hear Brantley tell his story about his curveball tonight? It was hilarious! He said that as a young college pitcher he was very proud of his big, breaking curve because he could see the break from the mound. Well, his coach at Mississippi State asked him, "If you can see the break, don't you think the batter can, too?" He said, "I guess so. I hadn't thought of that." Then his coach said, "Shorter is better." And Brantley then replied, "Not in my experience!" Then both Brantley and George laughed. (Though I don't think George knew what he was laughing about!)


Not even to the all-star break and already we're talking about Brantley's weiner size...... yes folks it's time to.....

FIRE SALE


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