7/28/07 - Reds vs. Cubs Game Thread

[mbgrayson]

1 R. Freel CF
2 N. Hopper RF
3 J. Conine 1B
4 B. Phillips 2B
5 A. Dunn LF
6 J. Keppinger SS
7 E. Encarnacion 3B
8 D. Ross C
9 A. Harang P

Cubs
1 A. Soriano LF
2 R. Theriot SS
3 D. Lee 1B
4 M. DeRosa 3B
5 J. Jones CF
6 M. Murton RF
7 M. Fontenot 2B
8 J. Kendall C
9 S. Marshall P

[redsmetz]

Good to see Griff get a night off; keep him fresh.

[Mario-Rijo]

I posted these notes on the wrong game thread. Let me re-direct them here.

It's 70's night at the GABP. Steve Stewart and Chris doing the game in their 70's garb. Welsh has a huge kinda 80's rock look wig on it's pretty comical, what's funny is it seems to fit him.

Welsh - The aforementioned huge wig, a kinda orange silk-ish shirt, a peace necklace and a pr of purple shaded John Lennon glasses.

Stewart - No wig, the shades, and what looks to be a tye-dye members only jacket. Uh disregard that's more of a suit jacket.


And according to Lance it's a sellout. Know what that means, Cubs fans out the wazoo!


Sunday roundtable (sorta) on FSN.

They invite you to be....G.M. for a day!

Send E-mail's with trade ideas (reasonable ones please) to www.redsonfsn@yahoo.com! (I think I got that e-mail address correct)

[Matt700wlw]

It's also Marty Brennaman's birthday!

[redsfan30]

The boos are louder than the cheers as the Reds take the field.

Welsh busts out a good line....says to walk around the ballpark tonight and enjoy the smell of mothballs of all the Cubs atire that has been in the trunk.

[Mario-Rijo]

Greg Brady throwing out the 1st pitch tonight. :laugh:

That just cracks me up for some reason! Hey Greg wheres Florence, wonder if she's throwing out anything tonight. :evil:

[redsfan30]

Nice catch by Dunn.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice catch, Dunner!


Shut up, Cubs "fans!"

[mbgrayson]

Nice catch for Dunner

[RBA]

Nice little grab for Adam.

[redsfan30]

My blood boils listening to those morons in our park.

[RBA]

Ryan Theriot? Wasn't he the star of Dance Fever?

[Matt700wlw]

Great.

The cheers are going to make me vomit

[RBA]

deep and gone by Derek Lee. 2-0 Cubs.

[Red in Chicago]

Wrigley SouthEast:eek:

[Matt700wlw]

"let's go cubs! Let's go cubs!"

It's sad, really.

[redsfan30]

I wonder how many of these "fans" know anything whatsoever about "thier" team???

[RBA]

Fly out to Dunn 2 down!

[MrCinatit]

It's also Marty Brennaman's birthday!

Fay made mention to that - and said "'70s Night" was being done to commemorate Marty's birthday.
Marty did not seem to know what to make of that.


Oh, and listening to the cheers after the Lee homer? Sickening.

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder how many of these "fans" know anything whatsoever about "thier" team???

They don't know squat.

[Red in Chicago]

Whan an opposing team's fans can come into your park and dominate like this, shouldn't that tell ownership they need a better product on the field?

[RBA]

3 DOWN!!!! Come on Reds, only 2 down!

[corkedbat]

I absolutely loathe Scrub-trash fans. Especially the filth that infest the GAB when they're in town. We need to turn this franchise around for no other reason than to shut some of this vermin out.

[Red in Chicago]

"let's go cubs! Let's go cubs!"

It's sad, really.

Correction, it's cub-bies not cubs:evil:

[Matt700wlw]

Correction, it's cub-bies not cubs:evil:

Whatever. :barf:

[redsfan30]

Looks like somethings up with Aaron Harang.....

[Matt700wlw]

Looks like somethings up with Aaron Harang.....

I noticed him talking with Mark Mann.....

[corkedbat]

Aaron injured?

[redsfan30]

Mike Gosling's up in the pen, and Harang was in a meeting with Mann, Pole, Mackanin and Ross.

Doesn't look like he'll be back to me.

[Mario-Rijo]

Gosling warming....seems Harang may be hurt.

[Red in Chicago]

Looks like somethings up with Aaron Harang.....

Maybe it's from the 10 innings he pitched last time

[Matt700wlw]

Mike Gosling's up in the pen, and Harang was in a meeting with Mann, Pole, Mackanin and Ross.

Doesn't look like he'll be back to me.

That's not good...

The lasting effects of Jerry Narron rears its ugly head :evil:

[redsfan30]

Great....8 innings of the bullpen with all these Cubs "fans" in the park??

Could be a LONG night.

[redsfan30]

He's done....he's got his jacket and he's heading down the ramp.

[Matt700wlw]

Harang headed to the clubhouse.

This is not good.

[Matt700wlw]

Great....8 innings of the bullpen with all these Cubs "fans" in the park??

Could be a LONG night.

Grab beers, everyone!

[Matt700wlw]

Nuxie notes that the fastball Lee hit was only 84 mph

[flyer85]

I guess Gosling will be out there for a while. Could be his audition to replace Belisle.

[MrCinatit]

This certainly is not a warm and fuzzy turn of events.

Sorry, that is all I can think of right now.

[redsmetz]

So are the Reds batting?

[Mario-Rijo]

Depending on the issue it may shelf any Lohse deals.

[Matt700wlw]

Lower back soreness for Harang....


That's..good, considering

[redsmetz]

Nux croons Happy Birthday to Marty. They wax nostalgic about how many birthdays they've celebrated together.

[WVRedsFan]

Lower back soreness.

Wouldn't you know that while warming up? MIght be more than they're telling.

[Reds Fanatic]

Shortest outing for Harang since 2003. Hopefully he will be ok with it just being soreness in the back.

[Mario-Rijo]

Why no journalists in the booth with Marty tonight? Geez, that's my favorite part of the show.

[Matt700wlw]

Bad Boy doing the play by play with Chris? (I had it on for a quick second)

[WVRedsFan]

Whan an opposing team's fans can come into your park and dominate like this, shouldn't that tell ownership they need a better product on the field?

I'm late on this, but apparentlyit doesn't. I imagine they're just counting the money from Chicago.

Or else Hor-Hey is the answer. I don't know.

[WVRedsFan]

Bad Boy doing the play by play with Chris? (I had it on for a quick second)

Really, the last week or so without George has been pretty good. I hate it his mother is sick, though and admire him for spending time with her.

I think Steve is better suited for TV than radio. He's not bad with help from Chris.

[Red in Chicago]

I hate Jason Kendall:angry:

[Reds Fanatic]

Jones walks and Kendall singles. 1st and 2nd with 1 out.

[redsmetz]

Really, the last week or so without George has been pretty good. I hate it his mother is sick, though and admire him for spending time with her.

I think Steve is better suited for TV than radio. He's not bad with help from Chris.

You heard his mother passed away yesterday, right?

[Red in Chicago]

Gosling needs help with the strike zone...quickly

[redsmetz]

BTW, one out, two on; Jones @ 2nd; Kendall on 1st (walk and a single); 3 and 0 to the pitcher who is supposed to bunt.

[Matt700wlw]

I have a feeling this game is going to get out of hand in short order...

[redsmetz]

Gosling throws the batter out on a bunt up the third base line - two down.

[Reds Fanatic]

Marshall sacrifices the runners to 2nd and 3rd.

[Matt700wlw]

Damn. I was right.

Again, the cheers are disgusting.

[Red in Chicago]

I have a feeling this game is going to get out of hand in short order...

You win the prize

[redsmetz]

Soriano homers - 5 to 0

[Reds Fanatic]

3 run homer for Soriano makes it 5-0.

[Matt700wlw]

I said Gosling should be a lefty specialist after seeing him pitch a few outings in relief....

I stand by that. Lefties...he's fine...Righties, not so much. If I can see that, the Reds should be able to...

This role isn't working.

[Matt700wlw]

You win the prize

Bummer.

[redsrule2500]

I can't even stand to watch it.

Instead, I'm gonna watch 300.

[NJReds]

I can't watch this. It's bad enough to be down 5-0, but watching "Wrigley South" is too much to take.

[Red in Chicago]

Not much hope for Harang avoiding the loss tonight:thumbdown

[mbgrayson]

This looks like a laugher for the Cubs; a crier for us....

[mth123]

I said Gosling should be a lefty specialist after seeing him pitch a few outings in relief....

I stand by that. Lefties...he's fine...Righties, not so much

I agree, but he'd be ok at that while he's cheap. I still am glad it isn't Saarloos out there.

[alloverjr]

This game is simply brutal to watch with Gosling on the mound. Ton of time between pitches coupled with ball 1, ball 2 on every batter.

Give me Santos. Easier to watch even if they lose.

[Red in Chicago]

My dad was just complaining about Lee and Soriano's lack of clutch production during lunch today. I'm sure he's enjoying his dinner about now:p:

[Matt700wlw]

As usual, so far...the Reds stink in front of a sell-out crowd

[WVRedsFan]

You heard his mother passed away yesterday, right?

No. Sad to hear.

[Matt700wlw]

My dad was just complaining about Lee and Soriano's lack of clutch production during lunch today. I'm sure he's enjoying his dinner about now:p:

He likes the Cubs? You should throw his dinner in his face

:D

[Matt700wlw]

No. Sad to hear.

101 years old.

That's impressive. Prayers to the family, though

[Red in Chicago]

As usual, so far...the Reds stink in front of a sell-out crowd

That's ok, it's mostly Cub fans anyway:rolleyes:

[Matt700wlw]

That's ok, it's mostly Cub fans anyway:rolleyes:

"fans"

It'd be nice to shut them up, though

[WVRedsFan]

101 years old.

That's impressive. Prayers to the family, though

Absolutely.

[WVRedsFan]

I know it's probably a lost cause, but Gosling needs to be relieved of the ball right now. WE still could come back, but with him not finding the strike zone, it will be impossible.

I hope Pete doesn't give up like Narron did in these games, but it appears he may have.

[Matt700wlw]

Walks the righty...

Gets the lefty to hit into a double play

[Falls City Beer]

Whoa, the game's over, but phew, thank baby Jesus it's only back spasms, eh?

[Ltlabner]

What the hell...5-1 Cubs? Gossling pitching? Am I in bazzaro world?

Chat is open by the way

[Red in Chicago]

Reds appear eager to give the run back

[Matt700wlw]

Nailed at home!

[Red in Chicago]

Marshall "cruising" to home on that plate and gets gunned down. Maybe that will take a little out of him next inning

[Falls City Beer]

Cubs might be one back of the Brewers at night's end. They'll certainly be no worse than 1.5 back.

[Falls City Beer]

So much for the "great" Mike Gosling.

[Red in Chicago]

Gosling with 5 walks tonight (2 IBB). Impressive:rolleyes:

[VR]

Hmmm. just tuned in...why exactly did Soriano get pitched to with 1b open, and a lefty on the hill?

[mth123]

So much for the "great" Mike Gosling.

Who said he was great?

[Matt700wlw]

Who said he was great?

I don't recall anyone...

[Matt700wlw]

Santos warming in the bullpen

[Matt700wlw]

Castro sighting

[mth123]

Castro to PH. Exhibit A as to why acquiring Cantu isn't all bad.

[Matt700wlw]

Castro to go the DL when Gonzo comes back (which should be within a few days) and WILL have elbow surgery.

[Falls City Beer]

Who said he was great?

I don't know--I thought I heard someone saying that Marty thought Gosling would be a good solution out of the pen. Maybe it was someone else.

[Matt700wlw]

Anyone who walks Juan Castro should be immediately sent to the minors :lol:

[Red in Chicago]

Castro = on base machine :p:

[mth123]

Castro to go the DL when Gonzo comes back (which should be within a few days) and WILL have elbow surgery.

Looking at the bright side here. The longer he's delayed in 2007, the later in 2008 he makes an appearance on the roster. Maybe we should keep him out there all year since 2007 is lost anyway. It would help 2008 for him to be on the DL all year.

[Matt700wlw]

I don't know--I thought I heard someone saying that Marty thought Gosling would be a good solution out of the pen. Maybe it was someone else.

He may have said he'd be an option, since he's been a starter, but that's about it.

We've seen how well of an option he was.

[mth123]

I don't know--I thought I heard someone saying that Marty thought Gosling would be a good solution out of the pen. Maybe it was someone else.

Anything is possible with Marty. I actually like him as a 12th man. Extra LH. Can mop-up. Doesn't cost much. Its a better idea than going into the season with a $2.25 Million Cormier as the 12th man.

[Matt700wlw]

Freel and Hopper come together, gently, this time...can somebody commuicate out there??

[Matt700wlw]

Welsh looking....interesting

[BCubb2003]

Welsh looking....interesting

Like a blond Howard Stern.

[oneupper]

How many more before we call Caseys , Phillips'

[Red in Chicago]

How many more before we call Caseys , Phillips'

imagine how many more he would have if he was a slow as casey:eek:

[KronoRed]

Can a team win its division if they walk Juan Castro?

[RBA]

Jr Time.

[redsfan30]

Odd time to use Junior unless he stays in in a double-switch.

[RBA]

Junior k out.

[RBA]

54 post to 10000.

Freel K's.

[RBA]

Bonds in the hole in SF.

53 post to go to 10000.

[RBA]

Bonds now on deck in SF. 0 outs.

52 to 10000.

[Matt700wlw]

As usual, Mike Stanton gets himself in trouble almost immediately

[corkedbat]

IF Griffey or Dunn were dealt in a package to the Cubs, Marmol (SP?) would need to be included

[RBA]

Bonds up. 1 out. man on 3rd. Game on ESPN.

[RBA]

BONDS K'S IN HIS FIRST AT BAT

50 TO 10000.

[Matt700wlw]

Bonds Ks

[Matt700wlw]

BONDS K'S IN HIS FIRST AT BAT

WHY ARE YOU YELLING???!?!?!

:)

[mth123]

IF Griffey or Dunn were dealt in a package to the Cubs, Marmol (SP?) would need to be included

I'd hope so, but I think the Cubs would pass. I was hoping for Marmol in Spring when the Cubs were looking for a CF. I wanted to send Freel. Not sure it could have happened, but I've liked Marmol for a while.

Reds would probably need to settle for Wuertz. He'd still be the best guy in the Reds pen.

[Matt700wlw]

Mike Stanton never pitches quick innings...

[RBA]

Nice play. I thought he should of waited to see if it would go foul. But he made the play.

49 to go.

[corkedbat]

I'd hope so, but I think the Cubs would pass. I was hoping for Marmol in Spring when the Cubs were looking for a CF. I wanted to send Freel. Not sure it could have happened, but I've liked Marmol for a while.

Reds would probably need to settle for Wuertz. He'd still be the best guy in the Reds pen.


Yeah, I would be willing to deal either Dunn or Junior if I were the GM, but I'd probably never get it done because I'd expect a difference maker of a package in return and nobody seems to be willing to offer even single usable part.

[Matt700wlw]

That was quite a picture they just showed...


wow.

[corkedbat]

I don't think Hopper is the speed merchant they make him out to be.

[RBA]

A base hit! You don't see them like you use too. ;)

[KronoRed]

I don't think Hopper is the speed merchant they make him out to be.

Short guys look fast :D

[RBA]

Conine is fast. He just took 2nd. ;)
47 to go.

[RBA]

Philips goes deep. But not deep enough.

[corkedbat]

Conine is fast. He just took 2nd. ;)
47 to go.


Must be the young body :D

[RBA]

Dunn pooooooooops out.

[BCubb2003]

When they planned 70s Night, they should have specified 1975, not 1971.

[RBA]

Coffey is in to throw gasoline on the roaring fire.

[RBA]

8-1 as Coffey celebrates the 1970's Apollo missions by giving up a moon shot.

[corkedbat]

:bang:

[RBA]

ARod up for shot at 500.

[RBA]

AROD K'S

[Matt700wlw]

Sweet Lou getting worked up in the dugout...

[RBA]

Reds down to their final out with the bases loaded, down by 7. Norris Hooper up.

[RBA]

Game Over. Bad Guys Win.

[Matt700wlw]

That takes care of things.

[KronoRed]

Shame, if anyone could hit the 8 run HR it would be Hopper, Norris

[WVRedsFan]

The Reds lost the game when Aaron Harang "couldn't finish his pitches" on the second throw to David Ross in warmups. That should have been a sign. Turn the game over to the bullpen and you get 8 innings, 8 hits, 6 runs, 5 walks and a 6.75 ERA. Nasty.

And the offense didn't help which show how much poison leftys are to the Reds. Compound that with a night you don't play Griffey and the team leaves 24 runners on base. Phillips and Dunn go 0-8 and David Ross got off the insterstate with a round .200 average (rivaling him as the worst hitting catcher since Johnny Edwards who batted .186 for the 1961 season). Nasty.

Tomorrow, it's Belisle vs. Zambrano. Nasty.

[Big Klu]

I thought Steve Stewart did a really nice job doing play-by-play with Chris Welsh. He is knowledgable about the club, and he seemed very comfortable work with the Crafty Lefthander. If George Grande ever leaves, I would hope that Stewart would be considered to replace him.

I have been critical of Grande in the past, but he is a genuinely nice and knowledgable guy who is well-respected in the industry and the world of baseball. My prayers go out to him and his family in their time of grief.

[WVRedsFan]

I thought Steve Stewart did a really nice job doing play-by-play with Chris Welsh. He is knowledgable about the club, and he seemed very comfortable work with the Crafty Lefthander. If George Grande ever leaves, I would hope that Stewart would be considered to replace him.

I have been critical of Grande in the past, but he is a genuinely nice and knowledgable guy who is well-respected in the industry and the world of baseball. My prayers go out to him and his family in their time of grief.

As one of Steve Stewart's biggest critics last year, let me step in here and say that his work tonight was very good and proves he was not suited for radio. Stewart needs someone to bounce ideas and phrases off of, and the radio format of Marty going AWOL during the innings he doesn't do PBP just didn't work. BTW, it doesn't work for Jeff Brantley either. Given the lone guy on a broadcast, Stewart just doesn't keep me interested enough to listen. In fact, i've turned him off. Tonight, the banter between Welsh and Stewart was good and made for a nice broadcast (or telecast if you prefer).

As I said earlier, sympathy to George Grande and his family on their loss. I've given Grande a lot of grief over the years, but I'd like to see a three-headed TV (four if you add Thom) crew whereby all of them do some innings. It get tiring listening to only Grande and Welsh and I think the radio lineup of Marty, Thom, Joe, and Jeff has been pretty successful.

[RFS62]

Phillips and Dunn go 0-8 and David Ross got off the insterstate with a round .200 average (rivaling him as the worst hitting catcher since Johnny Edwards who batted .186 for the 1961 season). Nasty.




Hey now, that was Edwards rookie year, he only got in 52 games. He did lead the team in hitting in the World Series massacre with the Skankees, though.

He had several good years after that at the dish before he suddenly and inexplicably lost his stroke and about half his playing time in '65 and '66 to Pavletich. Then some dude from Oklahoma came around and took his job.