8/2/07 - Reds vs. Nationals Game Thread

[Reds Fanatic]

Starting Lineups:
Gonzalez makes his return.



Reds
Freel cf
Phillips 2b
Griffey rf
Conine 1b
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Gonzalez ss
Ross c
Dumatrait p

Nationals
Lopez ss
Belliard 2b
Zimmerman 3b
Young 1b
Kearns rf
Church lf
Flores c
Logan cf
Bacsik p

[Joseph]

I want to complain about the lineup, but really does it matter? Could it really be any better? Sure flip Dunn and Conine, but big deal right?

[BRM]

I want to complain about the lineup, but really does it matter?

Not really. I have a feeling more people will be in the minor league update thread than the game thread again tonight anyway.

[KronoRed]

You know if Dunn said he was a switch hitter with the same splits he has he'd be batting cleanup a lot more. :lol:

[VR]

You'd think averaging less than 3 runs a game over the last dozen would cause a change in philosophy about lineup construction...especially with a weapon like Adam Dunn.

But, if you're happy with his .729 OPS in the 5th hole...fire away.

[Matt700wlw]

You'd think averaging less than 3 runs a game over the last dozen would cause a change in philosophy about lineup construction...especially with a weapon like Adam Dunn.

He did...he moved Phillips out of the cleanup spot and inserted Conine.

[VR]

He did...he moved Phillips out of the cleanup spot and inserted Conine.

I like Phillips moving to 2 better, but Conine isn't a cleanup hitter.

And why not move Ross and his 815 ops to the 6th or 7th spot, ahead of Gonzo's sub .600? Ross needs protection, Gonzo does not benefit by it.

[Matt700wlw]

I like Phillips moving to 2 better, but Conine isn't a cleanup hitter.

And why not move Ross and his 815 ops to the 6th or 7th spot, ahead of Gonzo's sub .600? Ross needs protection, Gonzo does not benefit by it.

Yes, yes....and yes.

[Matt700wlw]

How about this?

Freel (I guess)
Phillips
Griffey
Dunn
Conine
Ross
Encarnacion
Gonzo
Dumatrait

[VR]

How about this?

Freel (I guess)
Phillips
Griffey
Dunn
Conine
Ross
Encarnacion
Gonzo
Dumatrait


Better. You've got my vote for '08 Manager Matt.

[Matt700wlw]

Better. You've got my vote for '08 Manager Matt.

Sweet...

Pays better :)

[Ltlabner]

Chat, for those interested, is open.

[Matt700wlw]

Dumatrait....let's see what you got, son.

[Tom Servo]

That probably wasn't the luckiest way to start your major league debut.

[Danny Serafini]

Sounds like Freel just gave Dumatrait's debut a kick start. Single, walk, single to center, Freel throws out Lopez at home.

[Chip R]

Man, Dumatrait works slow.

[Ltlabner]

I love to see FeLo get nailed at home plate. I'm just petty and small like that.

Of course, Young comes to the plate and tells me to shove it by getting an RBI hit.

[Danny Serafini]

Kearns with a K swinging, Church flies out to left. 1-0 mid 1st. Not the best start, but it could've been worse.

[Matt700wlw]

:dunn:

:jump:

[Tom Servo]

Dunner goes deep.

[Matt700wlw]

It would have been better had he just produced a run...

[Matt700wlw]

Those Washington hats look goofy

[Tom Servo]

A-Gon gone!

his first at-bat back, no less.

[Matt700wlw]

:jump:

[Danny Serafini]

EE with a single and steals second. Slacker didn't even steal third on the same play, how weak.

[Danny Serafini]

I guess Gonzalez is back.

[Matt700wlw]

That homerun was for Johan Gonzalez

[Tom Servo]

Wow, they give you Thomas Jefferson bobbleheads at RFK.

[Danny Serafini]

Wow, they give you Thomas Jefferson bobbleheads at RFK.

I'm waiting for Chester A. Arthur bobblehead night.

[Danny Serafini]

Ross 6-3, Dumatrait K.

3-1 CIN, mid 2nd

[Matt700wlw]

Low 90's fastball....I actually thought Dumatrait was a softer-tosser than that.

[Tom Servo]

I'd like to see them give out Grover Cleveland bobbleheads on two non-consecutive nights.

[Tom Servo]

The Reds pitchers have turned Nook Logan into Willie Mays.

[Heath]

I'd like to see them give out Grover Cleveland bobbleheads on two non-consecutive nights.

:thumbup:

I bet you could get a 'new deal' on FDR Bobblehead Night.

(that was my second one since Servo stole my first line. Nice job.)

[Danny Serafini]

Nice 2nd by Dumatrait. Flores K, Logan BB, Bascik 5-3, Lopez flies out to right.

After 2:
CIN 3 3 0
WAS 1 3 0

[deltachi8]

Dunner goes deep.

rally killer

[Danny Serafini]

Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 3rd. Freel 6-3, Phillips flies out to center, Griffey Ks looking.

[Danny Serafini]

Belliard and Zimmerman open up the inning with back-to-back doubles. 3-2

[Tom Servo]

Dumatrait getting roughed up. 3-3 game.

[Danny Serafini]

Meat Hook singled to bring in another run.

[CTA513]

Dumatrait is not helping himself out by getting behind in the count to a lot of the batters.

[mbgrayson]

:thumbup:

I bet you could get a 'new deal' on FDR Bobblehead Night.

(that was my second one since Servo stole my first line. Nice job.)

Ask not what your JFK bobblehead can do for you, ask what you can do for your bobblehead....:)

[Danny Serafini]

He got back under control to get out of the inning. Kearns flies to left, Church pops out to C, Flores K.

After 3:
CIN 3 3 0
WAS 3 6 0

[Danny Serafini]

Another Reds 1-2-3 in the 4th. Conine grounds to first, Dunn flies to left, Encarnacion K.

[Matt700wlw]

Millard Fillmore bobblehead night

[Matt700wlw]

Tonight could be the night for Bonds...(assuming he plays)...Tomko is pitching.

[Danny Serafini]

As if the bobbleheads weren't enough, their version of the Milwaukee sausage race is the president race. Lincoln beat out Washington tonight.

[Danny Serafini]

Dumatrait gets Logan to fly out, but then gives up a double to the pitcher and walks Lopez. Coffey is warming up.

[M2]

Dumatrait gives up a hit to the pitcher and a four-pitch walk to Lopez. That's where I'd have yanked him.

[Danny Serafini]

Zimmerman's RBI double ends Dumatrait's debut. 4-3 WAS in the 4th.

[M2]

Zimmerman's RBI double ends Dumatrait's debut. 4-3 WAS in the 4th.

Belliard stroked the double, Zimmerman's going to face Coffey.

[CTA513]

Dumatrait will get a chance to watch a video of his start today while heading back to Louisville.

[traderumor]

The sluggin' Nats buzzing around the bases again tonight. Another AAAA pitcher bites the dust.

[Matt700wlw]

Todd Coffey....how far he's fallen. He's now the early relief scrub guy

[CTA513]

Only 6 earned runs in 3+ innings for Dumatrait.

[MrCinatit]

Has Coffey not allowed an inherited run to score yet this year?

[Matt700wlw]

The "Mackanin magic" is over....



As expected.

[Danny Serafini]

Belliard stroked the double, Zimmerman's going to face Coffey.

Guess I spoke too soon, Zimmerman gets 2 RBI with his single. 6-3

[Matt700wlw]

Mercifully, football is almost here!

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Has Coffey not allowed an inherited run to score yet this year?

17 of 38 inherited have scored, including tonight.

[Danny Serafini]

Dumatrait's final line:

3.1IP, 8H, 6R, 3BB, 3K

On the bright side, that 16.20 ERA can only go down.

[CTA513]

Dumatrait's final line:

3.1IP, 8H, 6R, 3BB, 3K

On the bright side, that 16.20 ERA can only go down.

It will only go down if he can get people out.

[edabbs44]

Dumatrait's final line:

3.1IP, 8H, 6R, 3BB, 3K

On the bright side, that 16.20 ERA can only go down.

Isn't that what we said about Stanton for a month or 2?

[Matt700wlw]

16.20 ERA

That's not good, is it?

[MrCinatit]

Santos warming up? I thought he was going to be starting Saturday?

[Matt700wlw]

Santos warming up? I thought he was going to be starting Saturday?

Pete said if he has to use him because Dumatrait struggles, he will....he's still trying to win.

[Danny Serafini]

Young flies to left, Kearns K.

After 4:
CIN 3 3 0
WAS 6 9 0

[Danny Serafini]

Reds go very quietly in the 5th. Gonzalez 6-3, Ross K, PH Bellhorn pops to second. Santos in, which now throws Saturday into chaos, or at least more chaos than it would've been.

[Matt700wlw]

Gosling could go Saturday.



Joy.

[Eric_Davis]

Well, that was some good pitching.


Next?

[CTA513]

Gosling could go Saturday.



Joy.


:party:

[Heath]

whoops

[CTA513]

Maybe we will be lucky enough to see Saarloos start this weekend?

[Matt700wlw]

Maybe we will be lucky enough to see Saarloos start this weekend?

I hope not.

[Danny Serafini]

Nats go down 1-2-3-4-5. Hey, there were no runs, so it's a moral victory. 6-3 WAS after 5.

[flyer85]

When PD gets back to AAA they should put him in the pen. Nice live arm but as the numbers indicated, he has command issues and his offspeed stuff is barely serviceable.

[CTA513]

Bacsik has struck out 5 batters today, before today he only struck out 21 batters this season.

[CTA513]

GIDP #243241 for Phillips.

[indy_dave00]

Kirk Saarloos back to save the bullpen with a brilliant start Saturday.

[WVRedsFan]

Kirk Saarloos back to save the bullpen with a brilliant start Saturday.

What?????

[Matt700wlw]

That boy can play

[Eric_Davis]

Hadn't seen any of the game and I noticed that Coffey pitched getting 2 outs while only allowing one baserunner (1 out of 3). I thought, well, "at least it's an improvement".

But I was suspicious, so I looked down in the box score and wouldn't you know it? 2 runners inherited by Coffey and 2 runners scored. This guy just isn't any good.

[flyer85]

Looks like Pete's magic has worn off. I wonder how many series the Gnats have swept this season?

[Eric_Davis]

On a positive note,....


The REDS have yet to leave a runner on base this game through 7 innings.

[Eric_Davis]

Looks like Pete's magic has worn off. I wonder how many series the Gnats have swept this season?


How many times have they played us?

[edabbs44]

Looks like Pete's magic has worn off. I wonder how many series the Gnats have swept this season?

You know Narron is giggling just a bit.

[GAC]

Isn't it funny how all these ex-Reds, assembled on this Nationals team, are excelling when they play their former team? :lol:

You look at their performance overall when playing the rest of the league and it's nothing to get excited about; but when they play the Reds......

As Neuman once said "No, but there's karma Kramer."

[Matt700wlw]

If Santos is running out of gas in his third inning.....starting wasn't going to work out very well

[flyer85]

If Santos is running out of gas in his third inning.....starting wasn't going to work out very wellit doesn't matter, makes you wonder when the FO throws in the towel

[Matt700wlw]

it doesn't matter, makes you wonder when the FO throws in the towel

They should do it now. This is silly.

[Heath]

They should do it now. This is silly.

They probably should have done it All-Star weekend.

Methinks house cleaning again this off-season.

[Matt700wlw]

They probably should have done it All-Star weekend.

Methinks house cleaning again this off-season.

Wouldn't shock me one bit.

[indy_dave00]

The Saarloos comment was total tongue in cheek. The way things work in Wayne's work its about time for Captain Kirk's 3rd adventure in Cincy this season.

[flyer85]

Wouldn't shock me one bit.after this season, nothing would be shocking

[WVRedsFan]

They probably should have done it All-Star weekend.

Methinks house cleaning again this off-season.

I don't know. Somehow I believe that Castellini and Krivsky think we are only a few cogs from winning. Just the fact that the price for Dunn and others was apparently so high screams that.

This is a mess.

[Matt700wlw]

Stormy in....making career appearance 800

His debut...August 2, 1991 with the Blue Jays...1 scoreless inning of relief against the Red Sox at Fenway Park

[Matt700wlw]

Hopper comes up limping

[jojo]

Dueces wild for Phillips these last two nights.... 2 stolen bases in one play last night and grounding into two double plays tonight.

[KronoRed]

Rally caps on

[Ltlabner]

Dueces wild for Phillips these last two nights.... 2 stolen bases in one play last night and grounding into two double plays tonight.

He's back in 2 and 2 ? :runaway:

[Eric_Davis]

And Conine completes the 0fer as today's cleanup hitter.

[Eric_Davis]

Half game closer to TampaBay.

[Matt700wlw]

19 under...last place.

Glad they stood pat...this will fix itself.

[flyer85]

And Conine completes the 0fer as today's cleanup hitter.
the entire charade would be funny if it wasn't so sad

[jojo]

And Conine completes the 0fer as today's cleanup hitter.

Well at least Jr got a couple of hits in the series... I think he's got more in Aug than he had in all of July... :(

[flyer85]

WK should have done Conine a favor and traded him.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 226
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 190
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96