8/4/2007 Reds vs Bucs

[Chip R]

For those who still care


Cincinnati
S. Hatteberg 1B
N. Hopper CF
K. Griffey Jr. RF
B. Phillips 2B
A. Dunn LF
E. Encarnacion 3B
J. Valentin C
A. Gonzalez SS
B. Livingston P

Pittsburgh
C. Izturis SS
F. Sanchez 2B
A. LaRoche 1B
J. Bay LF
J. Bautista RF
J. Castillo 3B
R. Paulino C
N. McLouth CF
M. Morris P

[Red in Chicago]

Here comes the Jack Wilson lovefest, despite the fact that he's not even playing:rolleyes:

[CTA513]

Morris has to be tired after that 9 pitch first inning followed by a 8 pitch second inning.

[CTA513]

Solid 5 pitch inning by Morris.

[Red in Chicago]

Morris has to be tired after that 9 pitch first inning followed by a 8 pitch second inning.

quickly followed by a 5 pitch 3rd:eek:

[Reds Fanatic]

Morris just homered to left. 1-0 Pirates. The 2nd HR of his career.

[CTA513]

Morris follows up a 5 pitch inning with a solo home run.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

That looked close enough to me that if Dunn hadn't just given up on the ball, he might have been able to trick the ump into thinking it bounced off the wall.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg doubles off the wall to lead off the 4th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior singles in a run. Tie game 1-1.

[Gallen5862]

What inning is it in? Thanks for any PBP.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion singles in a run. 2-1 Reds. Runners on 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

What inning is it in? Thanks for any PBP.2-1 Reds in the top of the 6th.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks Reds Fanatic. Let's go Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin doubles in 2 runs. 4-1 Reds.

[Tornon]

Livingston out in the bottom of the 6th after giving up a hit & getting a K. Coffey quickly in to give up a HR, 4-3 Reds

[Tom Servo]

Wow...Coffey...

[Reds Fanatic]

Coffey comes in and gives up a 2 run homer to the first batter he faces Bay. 4-3 Reds.

[NJReds]

I think we've seen enough of Todd in an big league uni. He needs some time in AAA. Bring up Salmon or Bray.

[Tornon]

Coffey warned after hitting Bautista

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Todd Espresso, A quick shot in the arm for the other team.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bautista gets hit by a pitch and Coffey and both benches get a warning.

[NJReds]

Coffey hits the next batter and the ump gives him a warning, as well as both benches.

A clear overreaction, although not as bad as the ump that tossed a Chicago WS reliever after hitting a Yankee with a knuckleball.

[traderumor]

Coffey is just horrible this year. And if the ump was paying attention this season, he would know that if Coffey was trying to hit the guy, he couldn't.

[KronoRed]

If the Reds and Pirates brawl, does anyone notice?

[Reds Fanatic]

Now a wild pitch moves the runner to 2nd.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

With that HR, Coffey has now allowed 18 of 39 inherited runners to score.

[Gallen5862]

Is anyone warming up in the Reds Bullpen?

[Reds Fanatic]

After a walk to make it 1st and 2nd with 2 outs. Gosling is coming in.

[Reds Fanatic]

From July on Coffey now has an ERA of 8.76

[Tom Servo]

Well done, bullpen. Well done.

[NJReds]

Another wonderful night in Redsland. Brilliant.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gosling comes in a gives up a 3 run homer. 6-4 Pirates

[KronoRed]

Jumping carrots, all this happened right after I turned the game on...

I'm gonna watch a movie or something :help:

[Reds Fanatic]

With those runs Coffey's ERA from July on is now 10.95

[Red in Chicago]

so if you're livingston, exactly how po'd are you tonight?

[Reds Fanatic]

And Morris gets his 2nd hit of the night.

[CTA513]

Gosling gave up a home run to someone hitting .172 against lefties this season.

[BCubb2003]

Fire Mackanin. He keeps going to the Reds bullpen.

[MrCinatit]

...And Pete took out Livingstone why, again?

Sorry, but Coffey should only be allowed to pitch when the team is behind by five runs or more, for now on.

[CTA513]

The crystal ball says that the Reds will bring Saarloos back up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper doubles, steals 3rd and the throw to 3rd goes into the outfield and Hopper scores. 6-5 Pirates.

[Gallen5862]

Who is due up for the Reds now? Good job Hopper.

[Reds Fanatic]

Who is due up for the Reds now. Good job Hopper.Inning ended with Junior and Phillips striking out. Now 6-5 Pirates bottom 7th.

[camisadelgolf]

When Hopper stole third and was on his belly, what if Mark Berry helped Hopper get on his feet so he could go home. What would the rule be on that? Would it be an automatic out? Would Hopper be told to return to third? Would Berry be kicked out of the game?

[Reds Fanatic]

Sanchez singles and LaRoche walks on 4 pitches. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

[Gallen5862]

Reds need to hold them this inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

When Hopper stole third and was on his belly, what if Mark Berry helped Hopper get on his feet so he could go home. What would the rule be on that? Would it be an automatic out? Would Hopper be told to return to third? Would Berry be kicked out of the game?He would be out. I saw a huge argument in a Dragons game this year when the umpire ruled a runner out because they said he had accidentally touched the 3rd base coach even though he really had not. But I learned then the rule is if you touch the 3rd base coach at all you are out.

[CTA513]

Have someone like Bray replace Gosling on the 25 man roster.

[Reds Fanatic]

Now Stanton is coming in.

[KronoRed]

Now Stanton is coming in.

Shut down time

[Reds Fanatic]

Stanton comes in and walks Bay. Bases loaded with no outs.

[CTA513]

Stanton should just get it over with and give up a grandslam.

[Reds Fanatic]

In 2/3 of an inning the bullpen has now given up 4 runs on 4 hits and walked 3.

[edabbs44]

so if you're livingston, exactly how po'd are you tonight?

Not like this was completely unexpected. But seriously, at least Narron is gone.

[Blitz Dorsey]

I'm sure a lot of others had the same feeling as me when I saw Coffey running in from the bullpen -- his fat bouncing up and down -- ... "OH NO."

Well, we have witnessed Mackanin's first terrible decision. No reason to take Livingston out in that situation -- especially not for Todd Coffey. Coffey chokes when the Reds have the lead -- it's well documented. Right Cowboy? Ha. And of course it was on something soft as usual. An 0-2 curve ball no less. What a joke. And I wasn't even a bit surprised.

Then Gosling is in there and I'm like "Now we have a poor man's Bobby Livingston out there." Just brilliant. I know Livingston was pitching on short rest, but that was awful. Just let him finish out the 6th. Some managers get way too caught up in pitch counts and BS such as that. Just manage the game and don't out-think yourself.

By the way, what's the latest on Harang? Is he pitching tomorrow? I'm sure it's been discussed, but TIA for any info.

[CTA513]

Not like this was completely unexpected. But seriously, at least Narron is gone.


:beerme:

[Reds Fanatic]

Bautista pops out to short for the first out of the inning.

[Blitz Dorsey]

How you like them DP-lane apples?

[Reds Fanatic]

6-4-3 DP ends the inning. 6-5 Pirates after 7.

[KronoRed]

Shut down time

Told ya's :D

[CTA513]

Pirateszone.com is not happy about getting 0 runs after having the bases loaded and no outs.

[edabbs44]

Pirateszone.com is not happy about getting 0 runs after having the bases loaded and no outs.

With Stanton on the mound no less.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion homers to left. Tie game 6-6.

[Gallen5862]

Let's win this game Reds. Great job EE with the Homerun.

[Reds Fanatic]

Paulino leads off the inning with a home run. 7-6 Pirates.

[Reds Fanatic]

Each reliever has given up a home run. 3 in 1 and 2/3 innings.

[CTA513]

Stanton finds a way to choke.

[Tom Servo]

Mackanin leaving Stanton in reminds me of what Narron used to do, which is play "Press Your Luck".

[Red in Chicago]

next...

[alloverjr]

Mackanin leaving Stanton in reminds me of what Narron used to do, which is play "Press Your Luck".


Gotta feel sorry for Pete, and Jerry before him. Although, they are getting a paycheck.

[edabbs44]

Mackanin leaving Stanton in reminds me of what Narron used to do, which is play "Press Your Luck".

Managing the Cincy bullpen is like managing a game of Russian Roulette. Pull the trigger and hope for the best.

[Reds Fanatic]

Burton comes in and gets 2 outs to end the inning. 7-6 Pirates after 8.

Keppinger who just came in in a double switch, Hatteberg and Hopper due up.

[CTA513]

Burton forgot he was part of the Reds bullpen and is supposed to give up a run when hes pitching.

[Reds Fanatic]

Matt Capps in to pitch.

Keppinger homers to left! Tie game 7-7.

[Tom Servo]

Country Kepp!

[WVRedsFan]

Never keep Keppinger out of the lineup. Never.

[guttle11]

We will not be denied 5th place!

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior hits it hard but LaRoche catches the line drive to end the inning. 7-7 mid 9th.

[Gainesville Red]

Billy Hatcher looks like he's gonna have a heart attack in that first base coaching box.

[joshnky]

This has been a pretty crazy game. Hopefully Burton has another good inning in him before he hands it off to Weathers.

[CTA513]

Burton walks the leadoff hitter and is ready to become the Reds 4th bullpen pitcher to give up a run tonight.

[CTA513]

Burton gets out of the jam and the Reds are going to extra innings.

[joshnky]

On to the 10th we go. Burton walks two (1 intentional) but is the first Reds reliever to escape unscathed.

[MississippiRed]

Good pitching by Burton. K of Bay, F9, Laroche steals 2B, IBB to Doumit, F9 for Paulino.

[Tom Servo]

This is truly a battle of epic proportions.

[Gallen5862]

Who will be batting for the Reds?

[Mario-Rijo]

Alright Big Donkey! 9-7 Reds

[CTA513]

Dunn hits a 2-run home run to give the Reds a 9-7 lead.

[MississippiRed]

:jump:Dunn 2-Run Homer!

[joshnky]

Who will be batting for the Reds?

This will help.
(http://sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/live/MLB_20070804_CIN@PIT) Phillips led off with a single and Dunn just homered to give the Reds the lead. Luckily Phillips didn't steal 2nd because we all know what Dunn does with RISP. ;)

[flyer85]

Luckily Phillips didn't steal 2nd because we all know what Dunn does with RISP. ;)exactly, he wouldn't have beenable to swing the bat with a hand around his throat. :eek:

[Gallen5862]

Let's go Reds. Don't blow the lead.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is Dunn's 30th homer of the year.

[joshnky]

Seven homeruns total in this game. I guess this answers the question of what happens when to outstanding pitching staffs battle.

[Tom Servo]

Too bad that Dunn guy doesn't produce runs.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the link Joshnky.

[Reds Fanatic]

Weathers in to pitch the 10th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bonds just hit homer #755.

[WVRedsFan]

exactly, he wouldn't have beenable to swing the bat with a hand around his throat. :eek:

Brantley lives...:)

[Chip R]

The sooner the Bucs trade Wilson, the better for the Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

Has everyone allowed a homer tonight? Weathers' pitch to Wilson was down the pike. Must be the hunid weather in Pittsburgh or maybe the bae pitch

[Reds Fanatic]

:beerme:Reds win 9-8.

[WVRedsFan]

WE win on a Dunn HR. How you gonna replace that?

[CTA513]

Has everyone allowed a homer tonight? Weathers' pitch to Wilson was down the pike. Must be the hunid weather in Pittsburgh or maybe the bae pitch

Every Reds pitcher except for Burton allowed a home run.

[Reds Fanatic]

Has everyone allowed a homer tonight? Weathers' pitch to Wilson was down the pike. Must be the hunid weather in Pittsburgh or maybe the bae pitch
5 of the 6 pitchers allowed a homer. Only Burton did not give up a home run.

[WVRedsFan]

Every Reds pitcher except for Burton allowed a home run.

Unbelievable. Alls well that ends well, i suppose. I was out most of the night and just caught the last inning. Nice time to watch.

[WVRedsFan]

Reds have outscored this putrid Pirate team 22-12. Doubled them up so far. There are worse teams than the Reds.

[Gallen5862]

"And This one Belongs to the Reds."

[RFS62]

I can't believe we didn't pull Dunn in late innings for his defense tonight.

What were we thinking?

[WVRedsFan]

I can't believe we didn't pull Dunn in late innings for his defense tonight.

What were we thinking?

Heh. Wayne may not be the only one "learning on the job." :)

I imagine there is a little more incentive to win these games with the Buccos since he wanted that job too.

[Falls City Beer]

Dunn is still the best player on this team.

[New Fever]

I can't believe nobody wanted Adam Dunn at the trade deadline, maybe the Reds didn't want to trade him.

[Always Red]

Dunn is still the best player on this team.

Yes, he is.

[RedFanAlways1966]

How about the REDS play all their games at PNC Park?!?

5 Games - 2007
Offense: 40 runs (8/G), 67 hits (13.4/G), 10 HRs (2/G).
Defense: 0 errors.
Starters: 3.86 ERA, 1.22 WHIP.

Dunn has 4 HRs. Belisle has his only MLB complete game.

[KronoRed]

Dunn is still the best player on this team.

It's been either he or JR for about 5 years now, yet I've heard the Reds can't afford that Dunn guy..;)

[Big Klu]

Just got home from the game. Some observations:

Livingston pitched OK--not great, but not badly either. With a high pitch count, especially when pitching on short rest, I probably wouldn't have sent him out to pitch the bottom of the sixth. (I would have let him hit in the top of the sixth, though.)

When Coffey came in, I turned to my brother and said, "That runner on first is going to score." Sure enough, he did. I like Todd, but if he is still on the 25-man roster tomorrow, then Wayne should be dismissed immediately.

When Stanton got out of the bases-loaded jam with no runs scoring, I said to my brother, "Like Jesse 'The Body' Ventura used to say, 'It's better to be lucky than good.'"

Burton pitched well. I think he's getting better.

I was glad that Edwin homered in a clutch situation--maybe that will help his confidence.

I was very confident that Keppinger would do something positive to lead off the ninth. I didn't expect the homer, but I knew he would get on base.

Adam Dunn came through when the team needed him most! I was glad it was a two-run shot, because I figured Weathers would give up one run. As I told the Pirate fan sitting next to me after Dunn's HR, "Don't give up. The Reds bullpen has to pitch one more inning."


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Adam Dunn - 228
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Barry Larkin - 198
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 191
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[Matt700wlw]

What'd I miss??

[KronoRed]

What'd I miss??

Not much

[traderumor]

How about the REDS play all their games at PNC Park?!?

5 Games - 2007
Offense: 40 runs (8/G), 67 hits (13.4/G), 10 HRs (2/G).
Defense: 0 errors.
Starters: 3.86 ERA, 1.22 WHIP.

Dunn has 4 HRs. Belisle has his only MLB complete game.

Only if they get to play the Pirates in all of them.