8/11/07 - Reds vs Padres Game Thread

[Reds Fanatic]

Starting Lineups:


REDS
Hatteberg, 1b
Hopper, cf
Griffey Jr., rf
Phillips, 2b
Dunn, lf
Keppinger, 3b
Valentin, c
Gonzalez, ss
Livingston, lhp

PADRES
Giles, rf
Blum, lf
Gonzalez, 1b
Cameron, cf
Greene, ss
Kouzmanoff, 3b
Bard, c
Giles, 2b
Germano, rhp

[pahster]

How many other teams consistently bat their best hitter fifth or lower in the lineup?

[penantboundreds]

who,keppinger?

[KronoRed]

How many other teams consistently bat their best hitter fifth or lower in the lineup?

All about bat avg and splittle the lefties

[pahster]

who,keppinger?

Er, no... Dunn. :p:

[redsrule2500]

Dunn isn't the best hitter, IMO.

Oh, btw, does anyone know if the game is on TV???

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn isn't the best hitter, IMO.

Oh, btw, does anyone know if the game is on TV???

Agreed, and no, it is no longer on TV

[pahster]

Dunn isn't the best hitter, IMO.

Oh, btw, does anyone know if the game is on TV???

You could make an argument for Griffey, although I don't expect that will last much longer, and it certainly hasn't been the case in the recent past. Hamilton has done pretty well so far, but < 250 PA isn't enough to convince me. Hopefully he comes back up soon, as I'm very interested to see how he plays the rest of the year.

Looks like the game isn't on today. Probably because it was originally scheduled to be on Fox, but then they switched it to Cards-Dodgers.

[redsfan30]

Best power threat....no question.

Best hitter....no.

[Matt700wlw]

Best overall hitter, I could make a strong case for Hatteberg.

[KronoRed]

Best threat to get on base, and those guys should bat higher then 5th

[Tornon]

I get the Pirates/Giants here.. how can they show us that over Cincy/SD?

[pahster]

Best overall hitter, I could make a strong case for Hatteberg.

Hatt's having a pretty good year, but don't forget that he's benefiting from essentially never facing left handers, though. And in any case, he's fine leading off as long as the Reds don't have any better options.

Here's Hat and Dunn VS right handers. I'm splitting them to show how they perform in similar situations, which, in Hatteberg's case, is essentially the only situation he plays in. He has only 31 PA against left handers.
Hat - .317/.411/.491/.902
Dunn - .284/.395/.648/1.043

Hat has been very good against righties. Dunn has been significantly better, though. Hat has 309 PA and Dunn 301 against righties this year.

[Heath]

Where's EdE?

:dunno:

[Matt700wlw]

I get the Pirates/Giants here.. how can they show us that over Cincy/SD?

Cincy/SD got pulled from the Fox schedule...

[guttle11]

Cincy/SD got pulled from the Fox schedule...

Bonds draws more than a game having pennant implications. Sad.

[Reds Fanatic]

1-2-3 inning for Livingston. 0-0 mid 1st.

[Reds Fanatic]

9 game hit streak for Hopper as he singles.

[Gainesville Red]

Blackout rules suck.

[Matt700wlw]

Bonds draws more than a game having pennant implications. Sad.

He already broke the record, I couldn't care less about Bonds...not as if I ever really did (but I did watch parts of the home run chase games, and saw the big one)

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior flies out to the warning track.

[Matt700wlw]

Rick Ankiel just hit another home run....wow

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. 0-0 after 1.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cameron lines out to left.
Greene singles to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kouzmanoff grounds into a 5-4-3 DP. 0-0 mid 2nd.

[redsrule2500]

Yay Pirates and Giants....wow.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn leads off with a single to center.

[Matt700wlw]

Maybe Brook Jacoby has made a difference, at least with Adam Dunn....he's got a much better approach this season, and the result is more effectiveness.... and I like that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Keppinger grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice. Giles had trouble getting the ball out of this glove or that would have been a DP.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin strikes out looking. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez is hit by the pitch. 1st and 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston strikes out looking. 0-0 after 2.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper makes a nice catch of a line drive. 1 out.
Giles flies out to center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Germano fouls out to 1st. 0-0 mid 3rd.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the pbp Reds Fanatic. Who is due up for the Reds?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg lines out to center. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Thanks for the pbp Reds Fanatic. Who is due up for the Reds?
Top of the order Hatteberg, Hopper and Junior.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper with a bloop single to center. His 2nd hit today.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior lines into a DP. It goes 3-6-3 as they catch Hopper off first. 0-0 after 3.

[flyer85]

Where'd this Germano guy come from, never heard of him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Giles grounds out to 2nd on the first pitch. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Blum grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez flies out to center. 0-0 mid 4th.

[edabbs44]

Where'd this Germano guy come from, never heard of him.

I heard he was nothing special.

[flyer85]

I heard he was nothing special.too bad he's not an ol' lefthander.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips strikes out looking. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn flies out to left. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Keppinger walks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin lines out to 1st. 0-0 after 4.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cameron flies out to the warning track in center.

[Reds Fanatic]

Greene grounds out to Livingston. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kouzmanoff strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 5th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez leads off with a walk.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston attempts a bunt but fouls it off and strikes out. 1 out.

[pahster]

Gonzalez has seemingly discovered that you can take first base if you don't swing at four pitches out of the strike zone. Excellent. Hopefully he keeps it up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg grounds out to short. Gonzalez goes to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper strikes out looking. 4 Ks for Germano. 0-0 after 5.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bard grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Giles grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Germano lines out to center. 0-0 mid 6th. Livingston has faced the minimum number of batters through 6.

[TeamCasey]

No score yet, kind keepers of the thread?

[TeamCasey]

Hey BCubb ..... c'mon over. We're serving up spiedies and salt potatoes. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior singles to right. Good 8 pitch AB.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 3rd. Junior goes to 2nd. 1 out.

[flyer85]

unusual place for an intentional walk

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to Dunn. 1st and 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Keppinger doubles to right center! 1-0 Reds. 2nd and 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to Valentin. Bases loaded.

[BCubb2003]

Hey BCubb ..... c'mon over. We're serving up spiedies and salt potatoes. :)

I guess I'll have to go out and get some chili.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pitching change. Clay Meredith in to pitch.

[TeamCasey]

I guess I'll have to go out and get some chili.

Trust me .... you'll find better chili there than the Alpo on spaghetti here. ;) :p:

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston grounds out to 1st. 1-0 Reds after 6.

[Matt700wlw]

...and, here we go again :lol:

[Reds Fanatic]

Giles homers to right. Tie game 1-1.

[flyer85]

Livingston has atrack record of losing it in a hurry

[CTA513]

Thats the Reds we all know.

[Reds Fanatic]

Blum grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cameron grounds out to 3rd. 1-1 mid 7th.

[WVRedsFan]

Interesting game. And the story of the Reds' season. Finally get a lead and give it up the next inning. Key to our half inning was the failure of Gonzalez to look at some pitches before swinging. He came up hacking and that the single worst thing we needed there and my biggest gripe against Gonzo. He can't be counted on for an intelligent at-bat.

At least we're still tied, but can we score some runs?

[Reds Fanatic]

Justin Hampson in to pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg doubles to left center.

[Matt700wlw]

Sounds like Blum gave Hatteberg that double.

Sorry about your luck!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper grounds out to 3rd. Runner goes to 3rd. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior grounds out to 1st. 2 outs. Hatteberg stays at 3rd. 2 outs.

[Matt700wlw]

Walking Phillips to get to Dunn....playing the percentages


Let's hope Dunn doesn't do what they obviously think he's going to do...

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to Phillips. 1st and 3rd.

[pahster]

Lots of IBBs today.

[Matt700wlw]

Nice work by Dunn!

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn walks. Bases loaded.

[Matt700wlw]

Keppinger needs to play everyday....

If it doesn't last, it doesn't last.....right now, you ride it out....play him somewhere every single day.

[Reds Fanatic]

Keppinger singles in 2 runs!! 3-1 Reds. 1st and 3rd. All 3 RBIs today by Keppinger.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin walks. Bases loaded. Pitching change.

[pahster]

Keppinger needs to play everyday....

If it doesn't last, it doesn't last.....right now, you ride it out....play him somewhere every single day.

He can have Youngbody's playing time. :p:

[Matt700wlw]

He can have Youngbody's playing time. :p:

I don't care who (to a point)...move him around if you have to, just play him.

[Ron Madden]

He can have Youngbody's playing time. :p:

That makes too much sense. ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Mike Thompson in to pitch.

Gonzalez doubles down the left field line! 5-1 Reds. 2nd and 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Livingston fouls out to 3rd. 5-1 Reds after 7.

[pahster]

I don't care who (to a point)...move him around if you have to, just play him.

I don't really see anywhere for him to play everyday right now. He can take all of Conine's playing time, and maybe Hopper's too, though I doubt Kep would be much of a CF. He should get a decent amount of playing time anyway, assuming he continues backing up 2nd, 3rd, and SS.

[Reds Fanatic]

Greene grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kouzmanoff grounds out to short on the first pitch. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bard grounds out to short. 5-1 Reds mid 8th. Livingston through 8 on only 86 pitches.

[Matt700wlw]

In other news, Chad Moeller has been traded to the Dodgers -- thread in the other room.

[pahster]

Ankiel just hit his second homerun of the day, third so far this year. Impressive.

[pahster]

In other news, Chad Moeller has been traded to the Dodgers

Noooooooooo! :p:

[Reds Fanatic]

Here is the story on Moeller from Trent:


The Reds today acquired from the Dodgers cash considerations in exchange for C Chad Moeller.

Moeller is scheduled to report to Class AAA Las Vegas.

He made 30 apps and 8 starts during 3 stints with the Reds and played in 16 games for Class AAA Louisville.

[pahster]

Cash considerations, eh? So the Reds are paying the Dodgers to take him? :p:

[Reds Fanatic]

I would guess it was not a lot of cash.

[Matt700wlw]

Ankiel just hit his second homerun of the day, third so far this year. Impressive.

What a story!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg leads off with an infield hit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopper doubles to right. 3 hits for Hopper. 2nd and 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Intentional walk to Junior. Bases loaded for the 3rd straight inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips lines out to short. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn grounds to 2nd. Giles commits an error. 7-1 Reds. 1st and 2nd.

[Matt700wlw]

Giles not having a good day at first base.

[Reds Fanatic]

Keppinger grounds into a 5-4 fielder's choice. Would have been a DP but Giles made a bad throw.

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin singles off Giles glove. 8-1 Reds. 1st and 3rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez flies out to left. 8-1 Reds after 8.

[Matt700wlw]

Livingston going for the complete job!

[Reds Fanatic]

Ellison in to play left.

M. Giles grounds out to Livingston. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ensberg doubles to left. He just beats a good throw from Ellison to 2nd.

[Reds Fanatic]

B. Giles homers for the 2nd time. 8-3 Reds.

[flyer85]

Giles had 2 HRs all year ... hits 3 in 2 games versus some fine Cincy pitching.

[Matt700wlw]

Giles Ankiled the Reds

[Matt700wlw]

The savior's in!!!


;)

[pahster]

Bray coming in. No love for Majewski?! :p:

[Reds Fanatic]

Bill Bray in to pitch.

[Matt700wlw]

Blum crushes one but it's only a single

[Reds Fanatic]

Blum singles off the wall in left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez pops out to short. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ground out to short ends the game. Reds win 8-3.

[pahster]

Good outing for Livingston. 8.1 innings, 3 runs on only 4 hits and 0 walks.

[mbgrayson]

We are half way to 100 wins this year! 50-66!

Too bad that it would take playing another 116 games to get to 100 wins at our current pace....lol.

[Ltlabner]

Observations from GABP.

The Pads are NOT shy about the IBB.

It's nice to see someone elses bullpen suck.

Kepp had a very nice game. Let's not anoint him the next big thing, but he had a heck of a game.

Javy is slow.

It was nice to see the Reds getting some luck from balls scooting just out of reach, dribbling out of gloves, etc.

Nice that Livingston pitches fast. That was the quickest game we've been to in a long time. Seemed like my father and I were in a rut of really long and slow games for a while.

[Unassisted]

Observations from GABP.

The Pads are NOT shy about the IBB.

It's nice to see someone elses bullpen suck.

Kepp had a very nice game. Let's not anoint him the next big thing, but he had a heck of a game.

Javy is slow.

It was nice to see the Reds getting some luck from balls scooting just out of reach, dribbling out of gloves, etc.

Nice that Livingston pitches fast. That was the quickest game we've been to in a long time. Seemed like my father and I were in a rut of really long and slow games for a while.

I was there tonight, too and I agree with just about everything you posted. I didn't notice that Javy was slow, but I think I missed one of his ABs while I was in line for the Dippin' Dots my son requested. ;)

I sat in RF and was impressed with the outfield defense. Griffey, Dunn, and especially Hopper made some great catches out there. It's nice to see the OF defense clicking on all of its cylinders.

Bray's form looked bad and the Padres hit his pitches hard. I posted in the Bray transaction thread that it looked like he was overthrowing everything. I'd love for Bray to do well, to help tip the scales on The Trade, but it's hard to be optimistic for his chances after what I saw tonight.

I don't think I've ever been to a game with so many intentional walks. It worked the first time, but SD pressed their luck too many times and it backfired.

I was not impressed with Khalil Greene in the field. He muffed at least 2 routine plays.

And Keppinger sure was a breath of fresh air. He might make another infielder expendable if he can sustain that performance. I'll settle for that if I shouldn't anoint him. ;)

[KronoRed]

Keppinger makes Juan Castro and the like expendable, and that is a very good thing

[Ltlabner]

I was there tonight, too and I agree with just about everything you posted. I didn't notice that Javy was slow, but I think I missed one of his ABs while I was in line for the Dippin' Dots my son requested. ;)

And Keppinger sure was a breath of fresh air. He might make another infielder expendable if he can sustain that performance. I'll settle for that if I shouldn't anoint him. ;)

I just just goofing on Javy being slow. I mean, he's as fast as a glacier but he didn't do anything especially slow today. Just his normal level of slow. :)

Seems like Kep could be a nice guy to have as a utility guy. Especially if he can continue to hit for average (although it's way to early to tell...so far so good however). He'd be a great addition to the bench and could be a stop gap guy if Edwin is traded or doesn't pan out (and I don't want him traded and think he'll be fine).

I just threw the bit about "lets not annoint him" as a prevent defense against people accusing me of over-reacting to one good game and was saying he was da bomb. ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Keppinger makes Juan Castro and the like expendable, and that is a very good thing

I could make Juan Castro expendable....and my baseball skills are probably unwatchable

[vaticanplum]

Observations from GABP.

The Pads are NOT shy about the IBB.

It's nice to see someone elses bullpen suck.

Kepp had a very nice game. Let's not anoint him the next big thing, but he had a heck of a game.

Javy is slow.

It was nice to see the Reds getting some luck from balls scooting just out of reach, dribbling out of gloves, etc.

Nice that Livingston pitches fast. That was the quickest game we've been to in a long time. Seemed like my father and I were in a rut of really long and slow games for a while.

I would add the observation that livingston was TICKED when he was pulled. Looks like he really wanted the CG. I'm glad Mackinin stuck to it though.

I'm 7-2 at my Reds games this year. Inordinately lucky.

[Big Klu]

I would add the observation that livingston was TICKED when he was pulled. Looks like he really wanted the CG. I'm glad Mackinin stuck to it though.

I'm 7-2 at my Reds games this year. Inordinately lucky.

You and me both. I'm 8-3. (My last game was the 1-0 win vs. the Dodgers.)

8-1 in games not started by Eric Milton!