9.13.07 Cardinals at Reds

[CaiGuy]

Your daygame lineups:

Hopper cf
Keppinger ss
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Encarnacion 3b
Votto 1b
Ross c
Harang p

Eckstein ss
Cairo 3b
Pujols 1b
Edmonds cf
Ludwick lf
Schumaker rf
Stinnett c
Wells p
Ryan 2b

[BRM]

Man, it sure is nice to see Joey Votto's name in the Reds lineup.

[CaiGuy]

Man, it sure is nice to see Joey Votto's name in the Reds lineup.

Indeed, I am glad (and surprised) that he is getting some starts this year.

[PuffyPig]

Indeed, I am glad (and surprised) that he is getting some starts this year.


He's getting almost all the starts vs. RH pitchers since he's come up.

[Puffy]

Isn't it weird that Jerry Narron, a former catcher, always batted a his catcher 8th and now Mac, a former middle infielder, bats shortstops 2nd.

I really have no point here. Sorry.

[Falls City Beer]

He's getting almost all the starts vs. RH pitchers since he's come up.

That's a testament to Mackanin, not Wayne, however. Since Wayne was brutally hesitant to even bring him up. I'm glad Joey kicked the door down, was unwilling to be denied despite the FO's best efforts.

[BRM]

He's getting almost all the starts vs. RH pitchers since he's come up.

Yes he has and it's been great to see. I honestly did not think he'd get this much playing time. I've been pleasantly surprised.

[cumberlandreds]

I think Mack said when Votto was brought up that he would receive the bulk of the playing time. So far he has and that's a good thing. We are seeing that he can do it on this level and that gives the Reds some good options for the off season.
LaRussa is playing genious again with the Cards lineup. Pitcher batting eighth and 2b batting 9th.

[OldXOhio]

Wonder what the Cards TV team will be whining about in today's game since they already covered the following last night:

1. Brandon Phillips baseless complaints on Pujols
2. Why the word Great is used in GAB b/c there's nothing great about it - in fact it looks unfinished
3. How the Reds bullpen always implodes in the 8th and the same will happen today
4. Brandon Phillips is a hot dog the way he runs the bases after a HR
5. Jim Edmonds will be agreeable to a move to RF next season just like Junior was this year
6. Unlike the Reds, the great Cardinals fans show in good times and bad

and on and on and on with the usual Cardinals arrogance. I know some of what was said is true - I just don't need to hear it piped out all night long on a broadcast of a baseball game. Just call the game like you're supposed to.

I'll say it again - it's never a bad day when the Reds beat the Cards.

[Matt700wlw]

Isn't it weird that Jerry Narron, a former catcher, always batted a his catcher 8th and now Mac, a former middle infielder, bats shortstops 2nd.

I really have no point here. Sorry.

How do we explain La Russa batting pitchers 8th?

[Matt700wlw]

Wonder what the Cards TV team will be whining about in today's game since they already covered the following last night:

1. Brandon Phillips baseless complaints on Pujols
2. Why the word Great is used in GAB b/c there's nothing great about it - in fact it looks unfinished
3. How the Reds bullpen always implodes in the 8th and the same will happen oday
4. Brandon Phillips is a hot dog the way he runs the bases after a HR
5. Jim Edmonds will be agreeable to a move to RF next season just like Junior was this year
6. Unlike the Reds, the great Cardinals fans show in good times and bad

and on and on and on with the usual Cardinals arrogance. I know some of what was said is true - I just don't need to hear it piped out all night long on a broadcast of a baseball game. Just call the game like you're supposed to.

I'll say it again - it's never a bad day when the Reds beat the Cards.

And it's a better week when they sweep them.

Here's to a sweep! :beerme:

[NJReds]

Eckstein double. Cairo sac. Pujols Sac fly. 1-0 Redbirds.

[cumberlandreds]

Hopper and Kep get on to lead off 2nd. Then Junior rolls into a DP.

[VR]

Hopper and Kep get on to lead off 2nd. Then Junior rolls into a DP.

I really thought they'd be off and running against Stinnett today.:confused:

[cumberlandreds]

1,2,3 2nd for the Cards. Still 1-0 Bad Guys.

[NJReds]

Votto singles and takes second on Edmonds error. Ross with a rare walk. Two on, two out for Harang.

[cumberlandreds]

Harang pops out to end the inning. Still 1-0 Cards after two.

[cumberlandreds]

Cards out in order in the third. 1-0 RedBirds.

[cumberlandreds]

Hopper singles then Kep hits into a DP.

[cumberlandreds]

Griffey singles and Phillips walks. Dunn up to hit a HR ( I hope).

[KronoRed]

Man, it sure is nice to see Joey Votto's name in the Reds lineup.

It's shocking actually.

[cumberlandreds]

Dunn walks. Bases juiced for EdE.

[cumberlandreds]

EdE pops out to waste another opportunity to get Wells. 1-0 Cards.

[Heath]

Kip Wells always looks like Don Drysdale when he pitches against Cincinnati.

[edabbs44]

3 innings, 8 baserunners, 0 runs.

Hits with RISP, anyone?

[CTA513]

8 baserunners in 3 innings + 2 double plays = 0 runs for the Reds.

[cumberlandreds]

Cards out in order. 1-0 Cards in the 4th.

[cumberlandreds]

Kep with SF to score Ross and tie the game at one in the 4th.

[cumberlandreds]

Griffey grounds out to PooHoles to end the 4th. Game tied at one after four.

[Doc. Scott]

Make that eleven baserunners in four innings. We should have three or four runs at least off Wells already.

[cumberlandreds]

Harangs K's the side in the 5th. That's 15 in a row for Harang. He's having some kinda game. Lets get some runs!

[Matt700wlw]

How about Phillips?

[cumberlandreds]

How about Phillips?

He's pretty good, heh?

[Chip R]

How about Phillips?

Details, please. Radio's hardly coming in at all here.

[Matt700wlw]

Could go 30, 30, 30 (Hrs, Sbs, Dbls)

[CaiGuy]

Details, please. Radio's hardly coming in at all here.

Phillips doubles

[VR]

He's pretty good, heh?

crazy to think how good he'd be if he could take the walk

[cumberlandreds]

crazy to think how good he'd be if he could take the walk


Joe Morgan clone?

[Matt700wlw]

Votto!!! 2 run double!!

[Doc. Scott]

Save us Joey! Votto's third straight hit chases home two runs and the Reds lead 3-1.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto!!! 2 run double!!

What happened? MLB took my internet feed away from athensi.com.

[Matt700wlw]

Ross!!

:jump:

[KronoRed]

Can you hear that? it's the Cardinals playoff hopes melting down.

[CaiGuy]

5-1 reds

[Matt700wlw]

What happened? MLB took my internet feed away from athensi.com.

La Russa calls for the walk of EE (a righty) to face Votto (a lefty) with Wells (a righty) on the mound.

Votto drives in 2 with a double, and now Ross drives in 2 more with a Homer.

[DoogMinAmo]

Considering EdE's start to the season, it must be some sort of redemption for him to be IBB, especially against a righty.

I know Votto is a rook, but I don't get that strategic move at all... and he makes em pay.

Then Ross in on the action! 5-1 Reds. Anyone have a broom by their desk at work?

[Doc. Scott]

David Ross' two-run homer should finish Mr. Wells soon enough. 5-1 Reds.

When's the last time Ross homered? It's been forever, partly due to the concussion and partly due to Javier Valentin hitting.

[VR]

What's that smell?

[DoogMinAmo]

What's that smell?

Dead bird.

[Matt700wlw]

What's that smell?

Sorry...I passed one.

:evil:

[VR]

David Ross' two-run homer should finish Mr. Wells soon enough. 5-1 Reds.

When's the last time Ross homered? It's been forever, partly due to the concussion and partly due to Javier Valentin hitting.


July 23rd...36 ab's ago

[Matt700wlw]

There's Hopper's 4th hit of the day

[DoogMinAmo]

There's Hopper's 4th hit of the day

He should only play against lefties.

All joking aside though, he is a good option for a fourth OF.

[VR]

Dead bird.

Yes, yes...I think it's a dish called Cardinal Playoff Hopes, and it's been flambeed.

[VR]

Looks like Cavazos stole Anthony Reyes' hat.

[RedLegSuperStar]

Votto.. AAAA player.. HA!

[DoogMinAmo]

The Cards have been one hit through 5 by Harang, with no walks, and they managed to get a run in. The Reds had 11 base runners stranded through 4, and got one run in.

Situational hitting has improved this year, but man is there room for improvement. Can it be taught?

[RedLegSuperStar]

He should only play against lefties.

All joking aside though, he is a good option for a fourth OF.

I like him as a forth OFer and someone who can come off the bench. His ability to bunt for hits and move around the bases is key. Wouldn't be surprised if Freel is shopped this off season.

[DoogMinAmo]

Kepp in a bit of a slump.

Hitting .218 with a .508 OPS for September.

[Matt700wlw]

He should only play against lefties.

All joking aside though, he is a good option for a fourth OF.

4th...yes.

[DoogMinAmo]

I like him as a forth OFer and someone who can come off the bench. His ability to bunt for hits and move around the bases is key. Wouldn't be surprised if Freel is shopped this off season.

Then who is the 5th OF? Ideally it would be a righty power guy. can Cantu play out there?

As it stands right now, the Reds' bench next year would be:

Hattie (L)
Hopper (R)
Freel (R)
Cantu (R)
Keppinger (R)
Valentin (L/R)

Pretty good speed and contact, a little power. Pretty good, actually. Give the Reds a couple bullpen arms and a starter, and the Reds progress yet again in 2008, with a serious run made in 2009 and beyond.

[redsrule2500]

sweet, on TV for me ;) MLB.tv subscribers, pm me for a good working proxy.

[DoogMinAmo]

Did Harang really pitch around Cairo to get to Pujols, bringing the tie-ing run to the plate?

[oneupper]

Harang walks Cairo on 4 pitches?

[Matt700wlw]

Harang bending a bit...

[DoogMinAmo]

Ross can throw a bit.

Please don't let Larussa come to Cincinnati.

5-3 Reds up, still no runners stranded by the Cards

[Chip R]

Then who is the 5th OF? Ideally it would be a righty power guy. can Cantu play out there?

As it stands right now, the Reds' bench next year would be:

Hattie (L)
Hopper (R)
Freel (R)
Cantu (R)
Keppinger (R)
Valentin (L/R)



You forgot about Castro.

[DoogMinAmo]

You forgot about Castro.

No I didn't.

I have a feeling Castro might retire. Or maybe it is a hope.

Either way, with Pedro Lopez the Reds sure as heck don't need Castro in the organization, unless it is as a roving fielding instructor for the minors/ Latin players.

[Matt700wlw]

Ross can throw a bit.



He's definitely made some odd ball moves...

[PuffyPig]

The Cards with a strange hitting line for the entire inning:

1-1

[cumberlandreds]

You forgot about Castro.

Forgot Ellison too. :devil:

[BRM]

Castro and Ellison are expected to be key cogs for the bench next year...

[oneupper]

Forgot Ellison too. :devil:

Louisville will be glad to have him

[oneupper]

REDS trying awful hard to give the Cards a shot at this game.

[OldXOhio]

Then who is the 5th OF? Ideally it would be a righty power guy. can Cantu play out there?

As it stands right now, the Reds' bench next year would be:

Hattie (L)
Hopper (R)
Freel (R)
Cantu (R)
Keppinger (R)
Valentin (L/R)

Pretty good speed and contact, a little power. Pretty good, actually. Give the Reds a couple bullpen arms and a starter, and the Reds progress yet again in 2008, with a serious run made in 2009 and beyond.

And if Jay Bruce has a solid spring, then what? May see a late March trade of Ryan Freel.

[Matt700wlw]

Castro and Ellison are expected to be key cogs for the bench next year...

are they going to be the legs that hold it up?

[Cyclone792]

According to Brantley, Dunn's made three very nice plays defensively in left field today.

[Chip R]

No I didn't.

I have a feeling Castro might retire. Or maybe it is a hope.

Either way, with Pedro Lopez the Reds sure as heck don't need Castro in the organization, unless it is as a roving fielding instructor for the minors/ Latin players.


I agree about Castro but I think he'll be back. Matter of fact I believe it so strongly I have $20 riding on it and I'm not a gambling man.

[Chip R]

According to Brantley, Dunn's made three very nice plays defensively in left field today.


That's unpossible.

[BRM]

are they going to be the legs that hold it up?

The bench must have speed and defense, bats aren't required.

[BRM]

According to Brantley, Dunn's made three very nice plays defensively in left field today.

I'll wait for confirmation from Marty on that.

[Chip R]

HGHAnkiel just struck out. Not a good week for the Rickster.

[Matt700wlw]

The bench must have speed and defense, bats aren't required.

I meant it literally....are they going to lay on the be under the bench, acting as the legs that hold it up so it doesn't fall down?

:)

[BRM]

I meant it literally....are they going to lay on the be under the bench, acting as the legs that hold it up so it doesn't fall down?

:)

That would be the absolute best way to use those two.

[oneupper]

Burton in. Harang's done.

[KronoRed]

Then who is the 5th OF? Ideally it would be a righty power guy. can Cantu play out there?



Cantu is awful on D wherever he plays, may as well put him in the OF ;)

[BRM]

Gameday shows Dunn made that catch at the wall. Was it a nice play or fairly routine?

[redsrule2500]

routine.

[RedsManRick]

Burton showing that movement + location = outs. 13 pitches, 11 strikes.

[DoogMinAmo]

And if Jay Bruce has a solid spring, then what? May see a late March trade of Ryan Freel.

Jay Bruce absolutely does NOT come up to the big leagues to ride pine. If he has a solid spring, which he will, and tears up AAA for the first half, which he will, then either Dunn or Griffey will get traded after June 15th for Bruce to play full time, if they aren't already gone this offseason.

[cumberlandreds]

Jay Bruce absolutely does NOT come up to the big leagues to ride pine. If he has a solid spring, which he will, and tears up AAA for the first half, which he will, then either Dunn or Griffey will get traded for Bruce to play full time if they aren't already gone this offseason.

Preferably Griffey will get traded. Dunn,Bruce and Hamilton in the outfield would be pretty sweet for the next 10 years.

[BRM]

routine.

Thanks

[redsrule2500]

hopper 4 for 5....not bad

[Doc. Scott]

Coats is now 0-for-6 with three strikeouts after flying out in that PH at-bat, but at least he ran the count all the way out.

If it's between Buck and Jason Ellison for the fifth OF slot, give me Mr. Coats. He at least has a chance to do something with the bat.

[DoogMinAmo]

Preferably Griffey will get traded. Dunn,Bruce and Hamilton in the outfield would be pretty sweet for the next 10 years.

My take of late is it depends on how receptive Dunn is to a LTC. If he wants one and signs it, Griffey is gone. If Dunn passes, he is gone and, GASP, the Reds pick up Griffey's option for 2009, his last year here. You heard it here first.

[redsrule2500]

AMAZING PLAY by jim edmonds! :( Crapppp willie mays style right there.

[Doc. Scott]

Kepp is all the way down to .335 after another out. (Sigh) Returning to the mean, I guess.

[DoogMinAmo]

Coats is now 0-for-6 with three strikeouts after flying out in that PH at-bat, but at least he ran the count all the way out.

If it's between Buck and Jason Ellison for the fifth OF slot, give me Mr. Coats. He at least has a chance to do something with the bat.

Coats is a lefty though. The Reds need some righty pop in the OF.

Is it ok for me to LOATHE Edmonds?

[cumberlandreds]

My take of late is it depends on how receptive Dunn is to a LTC. If he wants one and signs it, Griffey is gone. If Dunn passes, he is gone and, GASP, the Reds pick up Griffey's option for 2009, his last year here. You heard it here first.

Your theory is probably correct. I sure hope Dunn would sign an LTC here.

[redsrule2500]

NOT A GOOD START...he was ALL OVER IT!

[Doc. Scott]

At least Pujols was leading off the inning and not third up.

[Matt700wlw]

So let me get this straight....they use Weathers the past 2 games in non-saving situations (I can see Tuedsay...he hadn't pitched in a couple of days)...now they need him for a save and he's struggling.

[redsrule2500]

BAM! Another one pounded in. Weathers is looking terrible out there... 2 hanging breaking balls in a row.

[oneupper]

So let me get this straight....they use Weathers the past 2 games in non-saving situations (I can see Tuedsay...he hadn't pitched in a couple of days)...now they need him for a save and he's struggling.

Figures huh?

[redsrule2500]

Since when did Weathers throw inside?!

[oneupper]

Weathers on fumes....

Coats catches a ball at the wall.

[redsrule2500]

WOW! I thought for sure that was gone. He hammered that one, weathers is looking so bad :(

Good play though, at the wall

[Matt700wlw]

Stormy Graves...that is his new name

[redsrule2500]

Weathers on fumes....

Coats catches a ball at the wall.

That wasn't Dunn, was it?

[oneupper]

That wasn't Dunn, was it?

No...I corrected.

[BRM]

That wasn't Dunn, was it?

Gameday says Coats is in LF.

[Doc. Scott]

Ankiel is the Cards' last hope...

[redsrule2500]

Weathers location just seems off.

[oneupper]

3-1 on Ankiel....

[KronoRed]

Break out your brooms

[Doc. Scott]

...phew. I was more than a little worried there.

[oneupper]

Ankiel flies to RF.

REDS SWEEP!

Harang gets a W!!!!!

[redsrule2500]

Sweet! Terrible pitches, but we still win. Every single ball besides that pop-up was HAMMERED. Sweep the Cards, now just do the same to the cubbies and brewers, and we are in business :D

[cumberlandreds]

Stormy Graves...that is his new name


I wouldn't go that far,yet. He really has had a very good season. I think he may be wearing down here at the end though. Mack might want to give Burton a try or two at saving a game.

[VR]

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[cumberlandreds]

I think the Cards are all but officially out of it. A new world champion this year looks like.

[Falls City Beer]

Ankiel is the Cards' last hope...

...and he goes down like a methmouth should. It's official--the Cards suck like the Reds. It's a big pile of suck in the Central.

[DoogMinAmo]

Let it be known that the Reds are now 38-37 at home this year, a winning record.

For all the talk about changing GAB and getting pitchers to better suit the ballpark, the Reds need to improve their road numbers more.

That much being said, the Cards and Brewers have been worse road teams than the Reds this year, but have been ridiculously better at home.

MIL

H 45-26
A 29-45

STL

H 39-31
A 30-44

[oneupper]

Let it be known that the Reds are now 38-37 at home this year, a winning record.

For all the talk about changing GAB and getting pitchers to better suit the ballpark, the Reds need to improve their road numbers more.

That much being said, the Cards and Brewers have been worse road teams than the Reds this year, but have been ridiculously better at home.

MIL

H 45-26
A 29-45

STL

H 39-31
A 30-44

The umpires?

[Falls City Beer]

Anybody want to wager that a bunch of fans are going to be drawn into a false sense of hope by a strong September finish for the Reds?

[KronoRed]

Anybody want to wager that a bunch of fans are going to be drawn into a false sense of hope by a strong September finish for the Reds?

A bunch of fans, the newspaper guys and the radio tv guys.

"we're close! just tweak it a bit"

[BRM]

...and he goes down like a methmouth should. It's official--the Cards suck like the Reds. It's a big pile of suck in the Central.

That's what makes last year and this year frustrating. In a division full of suck, the Reds are still a 3rd or 4th place team.

[BRM]

Anybody want to wager that a bunch of fans are going to be drawn into a false sense of hope by a strong September finish for the Reds?

They are only a couple of arms away?

[DoogMinAmo]

The umpires?

Some sort of home field advanage for sure. It may be a combination of things:

Home crowd, home cooking, umpires, time zone change...

[DoogMinAmo]

They are only a couple of arms away?

As much of a putz as I may sound for saying this, in this division, the Reds ARE only a couple of arms away. As long as they do not mortgage the future to get them, I would be much more excited about the Reds next year and beyond if they got a couple more solid arms, one bully one starter. I would love more, but would be happy with that as a start.

[Falls City Beer]

They are only a couple of arms away?

What's sad is that IF they are the right arms, they may only be two or three away from serious contention in this division.

Now let me see a show of hands of those who believe Wayne's got the guts or wherewithal to acquire those arms.

[cumberlandreds]

Anybody want to wager that a bunch of fans are going to be drawn into a false sense of hope by a strong September finish for the Reds?

Win the next six in a row against the Cubs and Brewers and you never know. ;)

[BRM]

I agree, 2 or 3 very good arms would likely put this team in contention. Can Wayne identify those arms and go get them? I won't be holding my breath.

[BRM]

Win the next six in a row against the Cubs and Brewers and you never know. ;)

Not to dampen the enthusiasm but Kirk Saarloos is starting Saturday's game.

[DoogMinAmo]

I agree, 2 or 3 very good arms would likely put this team in contention. Can Wayne identify those arms and go get them? I won't be holding my breath.

He has been pretty good at identifying young, undervalued talent to date. What that holds for the future is anyone's guess, but I am not nearly as pessimistic about him as others here are.

[Falls City Beer]

He has been pretty good at identifying young, undervalued talent to date. What that holds for the future is anyone's guess, but I am not nearly as pessimistic about him as others here are.

Young, undervalued offensive talent, right.

[BRM]

He has been pretty good at identifying young, undervalued talent to date. What that holds for the future is anyone's guess, but I am not nearly as pessimistic about him as others here are.

His ability to identify young, undervalued position players has been very good. His pitching acquisitions (outside of Burton) haven't been so good.

[WVRedsFan]

Not to dampen the enthusiasm but Kirk Saarloos is starting Saturday's game.

Not to mention the three starters will be Shearn, Saarloos, and Beslile.

Have mercy.

[BRM]

Not to mention the three starters will be Shearn, Saarloos, and Beslile.

Have mercy.

Awesome.

[Sea Ray]

Did Harang get the win?

[BRM]

Did Harang get the win?

Yes he did. Weathers with the save as well.

[cumberlandreds]

Did Harang get the win?

Yes. Pitched a great game and Weathers nearly blew it for him.

[oneupper]

Save situation or not, Weathers should not pitch Tomorrow.

[DoogMinAmo]

His ability to identify young, undervalued position players has been very good. His pitching acquisitions (outside of Burton) haven't been so good.

It is stil early with this category, so it is hard to completely judge, but here is some of the major-league ready talent he acquired with some upside:

Matt Maloney - solid in upper minors
Bill Bray - flashes of brilliance
Gary Majewski - jury still out, has underperformed mostly
Jared Burton - no complaints ;)
Bronson Arroyo - great pickup, we need a couple more of him
John Coutlangus - no risk converted outfielder has been a pleasant surprise
Marcus McBeth - fastball/ change combo has many wondering what his ceiling can be

Not all bad, not nearly that good for just his plusses, but not dire by any means.

[PuffyPig]

As much of a putz as I may sound for saying this, in this division, the Reds ARE only a couple of arms away.


In this division, every team is only a couple arms away.

[PuffyPig]

It's official--the Cards suck like the Reds.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I am without speech.

[Sea Ray]

Save situation or not, Weathers should not pitch Tomorrow.

One of my biggest gripes about Mackanin is this habit of throwing his closer in the 9th inning of blowouts. He should not have pitched in the first two games of this series, especially now with all the pitchers on the roster.

[PuffyPig]

It is stil early with this category, so it is hard to completely judge, but here is some of the major-league ready talent he acquired with some upside:

Matt Maloney - solid in upper minors
Bill Bray - flashes of brilliance
Gary Majewski - jury still out, has underperformed mostly
Jared Burton - no complaints ;)
Bronson Arroyo - great pickup, we need a couple more of him
John Coutlangus - no risk converted outfielder has been a pleasant surprise
Marcus McBeth - fastball/ change combo has many wondering what his ceiling can be

Not all bad, not nearly that good for just his plusses, but not dire by any means.


The best part about those acquisitions, is that they were all obtained for guys who would have little room on our team.

[DoogMinAmo]

The best part about those acquisitions, is that they were all obtained for guys who would have little room on our team.

I wouldnt say all, I would love to still have Denorfia as an option over Hopper. But for the most part, yes he has gotten something for nothing.

[redsrule2500]

Anybody want to wager that a bunch of fans are going to be drawn into a false sense of hope by a strong September finish for the Reds?

Well, we are beating teams in a playoff race. However, those teams are just mediocre, so at best we are mediocre.

[WVRedsFan]

I would guess that this weekend will dash any dreams of the Reds being in contention, don't you think?

[redsmetz]

I would guess that this weekend will dash any dreams of the Reds being in contention, don't you think?

I think those particular dreams have been dashed sometime earlier than this weekend. For me, I'm dreaming of dashing some other team's hopes - particularly the Brewers....

[Ltlabner]

I would guess that this weekend will dash any dreams of the Reds being in contention, don't you think?

People gave up hope of "being in contention" long ago. Those few hangers on were convinced when we were only 5 games out a few weeks ago and then got killed by the Nats, Pirates, Mets and Cards (IIRC...I remember joking that at least it wasn't a West Coast trip that did us in this year).

Seems like the remaining games are good practice for those who have forgotten how to simply enjoy a baseball game without the pressure of worrying about a pennant race, line up construction or what bone-head move the manager/GM will make. GABP will have plenty of open seats. Give it a try folks.

[Ltlabner]

I think those particular dreams have been dashed sometime earlier than this weekend. For me, I'm dreaming of dashing some other team's hopes - particularly the Brewers....

I said to my father this morning that if we can screw up the Cards and the Cubs and somehow squeek into 3rd place I'd consider it a huge turnaround considering where we were earlier in the year.

Mind you, it's been a horrable year performance wise, but at least we'd salvage something.

[PuffyPig]

People gave up hope of "being in contention" long ago. Those few hangers on were convinced when we were only 5 games out a few weeks ago and then got killed by the Nats, Pirates, Mets and Cards (IIRC...I remember joking that at least it wasn't a West Coast trip that did us in this year).



We didn't play the Nats at that time. We won 2 of 4 from the Pirates. It was the Cards (0-3) and the Mets (1-2)that did us in (a 3-7 stretch)

[Ltlabner]

We didn't play the Nats at that time. We won 2 of 4 from the Pirates. It was the Cards (0-3) and the Mets (1-2)that did us in (a 3-7 stretch)

Thanks...

Anything more than 10 minutes ago is a blur.

Look....a bird!

[TeamBoone]

I think those particular dreams have been dashed sometime earlier than this weekend. For me, I'm dreaming of dashing some other team's hopes - particularly the Brewers....

for me, it's particularly the Cubs. I'd rather see Milwaukee.