9/22/07 - Reds at Giants - The Jason Ellison homecoming continues

[Tom Servo]

Redlegs
Hopper cf
Keppinger ss
Phillips 2b
Encarnacion 3b
Votto lf
Cantu 1b
Valentin c
Ellison rf
Arroyo p

Giants
Roberts cf
Frandsen 2b
Winn lf
Molina c
Klesko 1b
Aurilia 3b
Schierholtz rf
Vizquel ss
Correia rhp

[remdog]

Pete missed his chance to pull a LaRussa. He could have batted Arroyo 8th and Ellison 9th. Brandon has more power. :p:

Rem

[OnBaseMachine]

Where's Dunn? Start him tonight and then give him tomorrow off against the lefty.

[PuffyPig]

Where's Dunn? Start him tonight and then give him tomorrow off against the lefty.

I'm guessing that Dunn has a minor injury they are not disclosing.

[Raisor]

I'm guessing that Dunn has a minor injury they are not disclosing.


If I ran a sports book, I'd be ticked off.

[Chip R]

I'm guessing that Dunn has a minor injury they are not disclosing.


He's got a sore knee. It's been in the papers.

[TOBTTReds]

For the record. Correia dominates LH'ers.

[Red in Chicago]

Giants announcers said that Bronson's favorite uniform is the Giant's uni? Um, why?

[RedFanAlways1966]

Both pitchers bat with 2 outs and the bases loaded in the 2nd inning. Both make outs to end the inning.

0-0 after 2 innings.

[MrCinatit]

Argh - great play by the Giants RFer, Schierholtz. With most right fielders, that is at least a two bagger...tough play going into the wall.

[OnBaseMachine]

3-0 pitch to Votto was six inches outside but still called strike one. And of cource he end up grounding out. QUESTEC.

[RedFanAlways1966]

REDS with 5 LOB in the 2nd & 3rd innings. That was a nice run-saving catch out in RF.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Looked like a bad call by the ump on Roberts bunt single.

[Red in Chicago]

wow, roberts was out at first, but called safe...

[OnBaseMachine]

wow, roberts was out at first, but called safe...

Of course he was called safe. He's playing against the Reds. It's not an official game until the Reds get screwed.

[OnBaseMachine]

The Reds really ticked the league off with that protest didn't they?

[RedFanAlways1966]

Arroyo gets out of a 2nd & 3rd with 1 out jam.

0-0 after 3 innings.

[remdog]

Even the Giants announcers are commenting on how the Reds are getting no help from the umpires.

Rem

[RedFanAlways1966]

I am not one to question Bronson, but he throws curves on a 2-1 count and a 3-2 count to a pitcher who is 1-for-13 this year. Both are balls. Walk.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Roberts flys easily to Ellison to end another jam for Arroyo.

0-0 after 4 innings.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Easy inning for both pitchers. Keppinger gets a 2-out walk and is the only base runner for either team in the 5th inning.

0-0 after 5 innings.

[mbgrayson]

Not your typical shutout after 5:

Left on base:
Reds 6
Giants 7

Pitches:
Correia 76
Arroyo 74

[oneupper]

Nobody takes pitches in this game?

[TeamBoone]

Dumatrait warming to come into a 0-0 game.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Since becoming a REDS pitcher Arroyo has walked 4 batters in a start 5 times (2 times in 2006 and 3 times in 2007). The REDS have a 0-5 record in those games.

He had never walked more than that in a start for the REDS until tonight.

[RedFanAlways1966]

You know a game is kind of boring when the biggest highlight through 6+ innings is some dummy falling out of his kayak going after a prized Javy foul ball.

Pretty funny though... :)

[Tom Servo]

With or without Bonds I have long contended that the Giants are baseball's most boring team.

[Chip R]

Dumatrait warming to come into a 0-0 game.


Don't scare us like that.

[OnBaseMachine]

That strike call to Hopper was 8-10 inches outside. Memo to Reds: Never protest a game again. The Reds have been blatantly screwed by the umps in every game since the protest.

[mbgrayson]

Arroyo at 110 pitches.

Scoreless through 7.

[TeamBoone]

That strike call to Hopper was 8-10 inches outside. Memo to Reds: Never protest a game again. The Reds have been blatantly screwed by the umps in every game since the protest.


Heck, OBM, that's been happening all season.

Chip, honest, they said a long time ago Dumatrait was warming.

[mbgrayson]

TERRIBLE umping.

First pitch on Kepp and EE were called strikes. Clearly they were inside, GameDay affirms this. Ump must have a hot date.

[mbgrayson]

Arroyo will get another 'no decision' tonight.

I know several of you don't like the 'quality start' stat, but compared to 'wins', I think it is superior. Arroyo gets a "QS" for tonight, but no win.

[Chip R]

Chip, honest, they said a long time ago Dumatrait was warming.

I believe you, TB. It's just that sometimes kids come in here and as a moderator, it's my duty to see that they don't get scared. ;)

[RedFanAlways1966]

Speaking of quality starts... the REDS have won 5 of the last 6 games with a QS. The loss was the last time before tonight they had a QS (Wed. @ Cubs, Shearn... Majewski gets the loss in the inning when Junior got hurt).

Scary thing (as usual) is the bullpen has a 6.14 ERA in September.

[SteelSD]

Aurilia doubles. 2nd and 3rd. Bray simply gets too many pitches up.

[Chip R]

Great. Here comes Omar ready to put the nail in the coffin again

[TeamBoone]

Well, bases loaded with Visquel batting and Majik pitching... :yikes:

[SteelSD]

Bray gone. Pitching change coming. Bases loaded after the IBB. Giants AAAA club looks to score a Run before the Reds AAAA club can plate one.

[oneupper]

Majic to do his Magic.

[WVRedsFan]

Is this the curse of the trade?

Bray followed by Majewski?

Give me strength...

[RedFanAlways1966]

Majewski gets Omar to hit a 200-mph linedrive right at Keppinger. 2 outs.

[WVRedsFan]

And now we hear that Krivsky is expecting Bill and Gary to be the leaders of the bullpen "for years to come." That's scary, Chip.
Hittable pitchers in tense situations. Recipe for disaster...

[SteelSD]

Majewski gives up a hot liner to SS. Two down. Majewski just can't finish hitters.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Good lord... a 2-run single on an 0-2 count. :thumbdown

[TeamBoone]

Wow, I was so impressed with Majik until that moment...

[oneupper]

Ray Durham giving back on that 2 yr $14.5 million contract.

[mbgrayson]

Majewski has Durham 0-2, and throws a slider right out over the plate. That ought to be a $1000 fine on 0-2. WASTE a pitch for Pete's sake.....

[SteelSD]

Majewski. Freakin' guy has Ray Durham in an 0-2 count and instead of finishing him off he gives up a 2-run single.

[CTA513]

0-2 and he can't get him out because he has no out pitch.

[Chip R]

Wow, I was so impressed with Majik until that moment...


I'm pretty sure that wasn't sarcasm but it'd be funnier if it were.

[mbgrayson]

Sometimes the other guys just beat you with a good play. Other times you beat yourself, which is exactly what Magic Man just did.

[oneupper]

0-2 and he can't get him out because he has no out pitch.

Yes...but does he have an EASY button?

[WVRedsFan]

At this point I wouldn't give you anything for either of those supposedly bullpen anchors. Bray's ERA is 7.30 and Majewski 7.71. What do these guys have to do to prove to Mackanin and Krivsky it's rime to go to plan B?

[flyer85]

the gift that keeps on giving

[SteelSD]

Keppinger takes the force at 2B after receiving another hard-hit ball from Majewski.

Majewski's stuff is just completely hittable.

DO NOT WANT!!!!

[RedFanAlways1966]

It looks like the REDS will be 0-6 when Arroyo gives up 4 or more walks since he became a REDS player. This will be the first time Bronson did not get the loss.

[WVRedsFan]

Look closely, kids. With the exception of Edwin and Votto, this is a Wayne Krivsky lineup.

Scary, ain't it?

2 outs and the party's over.

[LINEDRIVER]

George Grande has double-manlove for Omar, dont ya think??? Geesh!!! Get a room.

[mbgrayson]

The Bats had nothing tonight. They mailed it in.

[RedFanAlways1966]

1st shutout for the REDS since July 29 when Carlos Zambrano threw a 3-hitter at them in GABP.

[SteelSD]

Alex Gonzalez pinch hitting with two outs in the ninth.

The Giants' Brian Wilson showing us 97-98 MPH heat.

The Reds AAAA club loses. And so they should have.

[CTA513]

Some impressive offense by the Reds tonight.

[WVRedsFan]

Not to belabor the point, but in the last ten games they've pitched in, they have been worse than horrible.

Bray - 7.2 in allowing 7 hits and 9 earned runs for a 11.25 ERA

Majewski - 6.1 innings allowing 12 hits and 6 earned runs for a 9.00 ERA

Together, these guys that Krivsky expects to anchor the bullpen have allowed 19 hits in 14 innings and 15 earned runs.

Why do you bring them in in the situation they were brought in tonight? Short answer? There was no one else and if Krivsky thinks these are anchors, I'm really worried. He has a lot of work to do on the bullpen whether he wants to admit it or not.

[Falls City Beer]

Not to belabor the point, but in the last ten games they've pitched in, they have been worse than horrible.

Bray - 7.2 in allowing 7 hits and 9 earned runs for a 11.25 ERA

Majewski - 6.1 innings allowing 12 hits and 6 earned runs for a 9.00 ERA

Together, these guys that Krivsky expects to anchor the bullpen have allowed 19 hits in 14 innings and 15 earned runs.

Why do you bring them in in the situation they were brought in tonight? Short answer? There was no one else and if Krivsky thinks these are anchors, I'm really worried. He has a lot of work to do on the bullpen whether he wants to admit it or not.

People talk about Bill Bray as if he were some kind of lock. Where that comes from I still have no idea.

[WVRedsFan]

People talk about Bill Bray as if he were some kind of lock. Where that comes from I still have no idea.

FCB...

It comes from the trade. Those who support this administration with great passion have to justify why we gave up two starters (as poor as they are or as great as they were--your opinion) for two relief pitchers--one who was very hittable and another who was a shot in the dark. So, you have to believe that Bray is all that.

From the TV crew to the radio crew and the GM himself, all we've heard is that Bray was the key to the trade. My pointing out that his statistics are not that great get the usual "small sample size" comment as if hismajor league career of 63 games doesn't tell the story of a kid. A kid who might be good someday or maybe never:

G - 63
IP - 62.2
H - 71
R - 35
BB - 22
SO -51
ERA-4.45

His WHIP is 1.48 while Mike Stanton's is 1.35, Danny Graves' is 1.40. I don't see anything but potential and not much of that. I sure the stats guys will roll out all the fancy stuff that shows he is a stud, btu I don't see it.

I hope the kid does well and becomes what everyone thinks he his, but for now, he's a liability just like most of our bullpen.

[Matt700wlw]

I go away for one night and the Reds bullpen implodes....



Oh, wait....that's normal.

Oh well!