Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations

[camisadelgolf]

This is just intended as a reference. Feel free to discuss how good/bad the contracts are. To make the list, a player must be on the 40-man roster or have Major League experience. I apologize if the format is too sloppy--I couldn't think of a better way to do it.


NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Jon Adkins RP 30 2.045 minor league

Jeremy Affeldt RP 28 6.000 3.0mm

Drew T. Anderson OF 26 0.021 pre-arbitration

Bronson Arroyo SP 31 5.150 6.45mm 9.5mm 11.0mm 11.0mm co
2.0mm bo
Homer Bailey SP 21 0.041 pre-arbitration

Paul Bako C 35 9.140 minor league

Kevin Barker 1B 32 0.148 minor league

Matt Belisle SP 27 3.024 1.25mm

Bill Bray RP 24 1.112 pre-arbitration

Jim Brower RP 35 6.040 minor league

NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Jared Burton RP 26 1.000 pre-arbitration

Jolbert Cabrera IF 35 5.057 minor league

Juan Castro IF 35 11.024 0.975mm 1.1mm co
0.1mm bo
Todd Coffey RP 27 2.135 0.925mm

Alvin Colina C 26 0.024 pre-arbitration

Francisco Cordero RP 32 8.046 9.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm co
1.0mm bo
Jon Coutlangus RP 27 0.161 pre-arbitration

Chris Dickerson OF 25 0.000 pre-arbitration

Adam Dunn OF 28 6.074 13.0mm

Edwin Encarnacion 3B 25 2.085 pre-arbitration

NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Josh Fogg SP 31 6.030 1.0mm

Ryan Freel UT 32 4.140 3.0mm 4.0mm

Richie Gardner SP 26 0.000 pre-arbitration

Dave Gassner SP 29 0.009 minor league

Jerry Gil UT 25 1.130 minor league

Alex Gonzalez SS 31 9.034 4.625mm 5.375mm 6.0mm mo
0.125mm bonus w/ Gold Glove in 2008
Andy Green 2B 30 1.120 minor league

Ken Griffey, Jr. OF 38 19.000 12.5mm 16.5mm co
4.0mm bo
Ryan Hanigan C 27 0.027 pre-arbitration

Aaron Harang SP 29 5.061 6.75mm 11.0mm 12.5mm 12.75mm co
2.0mm bo
*option escalates to 13.0mm w/ 210 IP in 2010
*if traded, 2011 is 14.0mm mo w/ 2.5mm bo
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Scott Hatteberg 1B 38 11.070 1.85mm

Norris Hopper OF 29 1.043 pre-arbitration

Paul Janish IF 25 0.000 pre-arbitration

Jeff Keppinger IF 27 1.052 pre-arbitration

Justin Lehr RP 30 1.049 minor league

Mike Lincoln RP 32 3.067 minor league

Bobby Livingston SP 25 0.107 pre-arbitration

Marcus McBeth RP 27 0.073 pre-arbitration

Gary Majewski RP 28 2.117 pre-arbitration

Kent Mercker RP 40 15.106 minor league

NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Chris Michalak RP 37 1.142 minor league

Ty Pelland RP 24 0.000 pre-arbitration

Adam Pettyjohn SP 30 1.086 minor league

Andy Phillips IF 30 2.055 minor league

Brandon Phillips 2B 26 3.022 2.75mm 4.75mm 6.75mm 11.0mm 12.0mm co
1.0mm bo
Ramon Ramirez RP 25 0.000 pre-arbitration

Dave Ross C 31 5.001 2.525mm 3.5mm co
0.375mm bo
Brad Salmon RP 28 0.082 minor league

Scott Sauerbeck RP 36 7.000 minor league

Tom Shearn SP 30 0.036 minor league

NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Alex Smit SP 22 0.000 pre-arbitration

Mike Stanton RP 40 18.039 3.0mm 2.5mm co
0.5mm bo
2009 option is guaranteed at 2.75mm w/ 140 appearances in 2007-8
Ricky Stone RP 33 3.048 minor league

Craig Tatum C 25 0.000 pre-arbitration

Daryl Thompson SP 22 0.000 pre-arbitration

Javier Valentin C 32 7.036 1.3mm

Sergio Valenzuela SP 23 0.000 pre-arbitration

Edinson Volquez SP 24 0.120 pre-arbitration

Joey Votto 1B 24 0.027 pre-arbitration

David Weathers RP 38 14.044 2.75mm

mm = million dollars
mo = mutual option
co = club option
bo = buyout

[RedsManRick]

Another reference point:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/cincinnati-reds_24.html

[cumberlandreds]

It's really sad to see Castro and Stanton on books for 2009.

[Sea Ray]

It's really sad to see Castro and Stanton on books for 2009.

Are we actually commited to them or are we only out a buyout? It's a shame we're out either one but a buyout beats eating a whole year's salary

[princeton]

archive this-- it's useful.


Reds are in a remarkably strong state in terms of next year's arbitrations (EdE alone unless Coffey improves or Bray hits super 2 jackpot), next year's FAs (Dunn alone; Jr is surely gone), current player options (nobody significant). There's a dicey Rule V guy, but otherwise, it really doesn't get structured better than this.

now, we just need better players ;)

[pedro]

Are we actually commited to them or are we only out a buyout? It's a shame we're out either one but a buyout beats eating a whole year's salary

$100,000 buy out for Castro

[flyer85]

Castro and Stanton are both club options for 2009 although Stanton has a vesting clause.

[redsrule2500]

Ugh, the Griffey contract is killer right now....imagine what another 17 million free would do for this team! :(

[princeton]

Ugh, the Griffey contract is killer right now....imagine what another 17 million free would do for this team! :(


you're late to the party

in fact, Jr's contract looks better now than it has in years.

[Hoosier Red]

Quick question on Stanton's contract.

Assume that Stanton is cut in spring training,

OKAY NOW STOP CELEBRATING, THIS IS ONLY HYPOTHETICAL

If another team(say the Cardinals) picks him up,

AGAIN STOP CELEBRATING, NO NEED TO BEGIN IMAGINING STANTON BEING BROUGHT IN TO FACE DUNN LATE IN A GAME, WE'RE ONLY HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING HERE.


Anyways, if the the other team picks him up, do they pick up the same contract he signed with the Reds or do they write a new one? Meaning would the vesting option transfer over to the team he signs with?

[pedro]

Quick question on Stanton's contract.

Assume that Stanton is cut in spring training,

OKAY NOW STOP CELEBRATING, THIS IS ONLY HYPOTHETICAL

If another team(say the Cardinals) picks him up,

AGAIN STOP CELEBRATING, NO NEED TO BEGIN IMAGINING STANTON BEING BROUGHT IN TO FACE DUNN LATE IN A GAME, WE'RE ONLY HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING HERE.


Anyways, if the the other team picks him up, do they pick up the same contract he signed with the Reds or do they write a new one? Meaning would the vesting option transfer over to the team he signs with?

My understanding is that they would only have to pay him the major league minimum with the Reds picking up the rest of the tab for 2008 but if his option vested then whoever picked him up would be responsible for his entire 2009 contract.

[Sea Ray]

My understanding is that they would only have to pay him the major league minimum with the Reds picking up the rest of the tab for 2008 but if his option vested then whoever picked him up would be responsible for his entire 2009 contract.

My understanding is it would depend upon whether the Cards picked him up on waivers or did they wait until he cleared waivers and became a free agent. If he's a waiver wire pickup then the Cards would take over the contract. If not then the Reds are responsible for the 2008 contract, plus the buyout (but not the incentives ) minus the major league minimum which the Cards would be responsible for.

[Sea Ray]

$100,000 buy out for Castro

That's a bargain

[pedro]

My understanding is it would depend upon whether the Cards picked him up on waivers or did they wait until he cleared waivers and because a free agent. If he's a waiver wire pickup then the Cards would take over the contract. If not then the Reds are responsible for the 2008 contract, plus the buyout (but not the incentives ) minus the major league minimum which the Cards would be responsible for.

Hmmm... I'm not sure. I don't think a team is responsible for buyout clauses once a player is not on their roster, unless, of course, nobody picks him up. I could be wrong though.

[Sea Ray]

Hmmm... I'm not sure. I don't think a team is responsible for buyout clauses once a player is not on their roster, unless, of course, nobody picks him up. I could be wrong though.

I'm not sure either but it was my recollection that the Reds were still on the hook for Danny Graves' buyout. For example, I doubt that the Reds could cut KGR in Sept if they fall out of the race and escape that $4mill buyout.

[pedro]

I'm not sure either but it was my recollection that the Reds were still on the hook for Danny Graves' buyout. For example, I doubt that the Reds could cut KGR in Sept if they fall out of the race and escape that $4mill buyout.

If no one else picked him up then, yes, they clearly would be on the hook for any buyout. I'm not sure though what happens when a another picks up a player with a buyout.

[Highlifeman21]

$100,000 buy out for Castro

Let's pass a hat around RZ to make that happen.

[paintmered]

archive this-- it's useful.

Agreed.