Reds vs. Indians-5/17/08

[membengal]

42,023 at the game today.

35,468 of them who knew what was coming with Weathers. Sadly, one of them wasn't Dusty.

Bray walks Sizemore.

One on, two outs.

[Tommyjohn25]

That's what you get for working out so hard...it doesn't make me quite so upset...

Touche' coach...touche' :cool:

[membengal]

If the Reds lose this one, it will be their fourth consecutive loss in front of a sellout crowd.

Now THAT's a stat that should cause Cast to tear his hair out.

[membengal]

Sizemore swipes second, his 9th steal of the year, and second on the day.

Apparently Bray was less than helpful at keeping him close.

[jojo]

The Indians used to have an Asian pitcher who ate *other* kinds of hot dogs.

I hope he used "condoments" buh bum bump....

[membengal]

Huge part of the game here for Bray.

Ks Peralta.

Nice job.

Middle of the 9th, 2-1 Cleveland.

[Tommyjohn25]

Sans the walk, nice work by Bray.

[membengal]

To repeat:

Votto
EE
Dunn

Interesting to see who Cleveland runs out there to try and close it.

[jojo]

If the Reds lose this one, it will be their fourth consecutive loss in front of a sellout crowd.

Now THAT's a stat that should cause Cast to tear his hair out.

I bet sellout is all he's thinking about....

[coachw513]

Does Brantley actually think the pitchers are intentionally coming to the plate slowly??...I'm sure he was the paragon of fundamentals...

Good job Bray...

Time for a walkoff win...

[Tommyjohn25]

To repeat:

Votto
EE
Dunn

Interesting to see who Cleveland runs out there to try and close it.

They are gonna come back. I don't know which one is going to do it, but someones going yard.

I can feel it.

[redsrule2500]

We want Bruce! We want Bruce! We want Bruce!

Let me second that one. Bruce instead of Griffey would help out so much!

[membengal]

I bet sellout is all he's thinking about....

I hope not. He SHOULD be thinking about how to get MORE sellouts.

Winning would help.

Kobyashi still in to try and close the game.

ETA: Hint to Bob Cast---the Bruce somewhere in the line-up would be a HUGE help along those lines. Just sayin'.

[membengal]

2-2 count on Votto.

[Tommyjohn25]

Here we go baby! Here we go!

[membengal]

Votto drops a single into LF.

Well done, rook.

One on, none out.

[Falls City Beer]

Keepin' jive alive, Votto!

[redsrule2500]

Don't make EE bunt!

[jojo]

Exciting baseball.

[membengal]

Marty bleating about how EE can't bunt, and Marty wants him a bunt here.

[membengal]

EE hit with a pitch!

[Tommyjohn25]

HBP!! Come on Dunner!!

[membengal]

Although EE seems less than thrilled by this, as he is in some pain.

It hit him somewhere around the knee.

[coachw513]

Votto the master of the opposite field dink...

For the love of god, may we not see a failed bunt attempt...

Let's just let him hit another walkoff :)

Well that will work...

[membengal]

Outside of the left knee, right on bone according to Marty.

Marty now wants Dunn to bunt.

[membengal]

Men on first and second, no outs.

[redsrule2500]

Dunn can't bunt either.

[Tommyjohn25]

Why are baseballs going all Tonya Harding on the Reds?

[coachw513]

Well this AB might add to the ORG thread...

[membengal]

I counter Marty's lunacy by calling for Janish to pinch hit for Dunn.

[membengal]

Dunn squares to bunt, and then takes ball one.

[MWM]

Dumb asking AD to bunt. If you want to bunt, put a PH in to have him bunt.

[redsrule2500]

Honestly, don't make Dunn bunt...he can't. He's just gonna screw it up....anyone else agree? I don't know....I just don't know!

[coachw513]

.156 RISP...shudders...

shows bunt??...hmm...

[redsrule2500]

Dumb asking AD to bunt. If you want to bunt, put a PH in to have him bunt.

agreed!

[membengal]

Dear lord, Dunn bunts foul.

This is absolutely mind-boggling.

We are apparently, if everything goes right, putting the game in Paul Bako's hands.

[membengal]

2-1 count, no bunt shown that time.

[membengal]

GOOD BYE

[MrCinatit]

You


Have


To


Be


Kidding!

[MWM]

Love it. Keep the non-clutch comments coming.

[Spring~Fields]

:jump: walk off baby.....................Yesssssssssssssssssssssss

[membengal]

I've got your bunt RIGHT HERE

[Falls City Beer]

Buy Tommyjohn a CRATE of Falls City Beer!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jojo]

:beerme:

[coachw513]

Unbelievable...

I called my girls into the room...said to listen...

well I'll be darned...

[KronoRed]

Dunn with another freaking game winner, can't he stop being a show boat??

[membengal]

4-2.

Reds win.

Apparently the ball hit the top row of the sun deck in RF. My God.

I can't wait to see the replays of that on SC.

Five game winning streak.

Now 20-23.

[Tommyjohn25]

They are gonna come back. I don't know which one is going to do it, but someones going yard.

I can feel it.

Bow to me...:cool:

[redsrule2500]

Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aamaaazzzing!!!!!!!

[Tommyjohn25]

Buy Tommyjohn a CRATE of Falls City Beer!!!!!!!!!!!!


:beerme:

[jojo]

Set the timer for tomorrow....should be another good one.

[membengal]

Well, what a swell way to end the day.

Great game thread everyone. This was really fun.

The walk-off homerun doesn't hurt that either.

[Tony Cloninger]

Why can't people just say what happened instead of a bunch of posts that make it sound like Dunn did anything from hitting into a triple play to killing someone with his bat.

[mth123]

Sign him up.

[membengal]

By the way, Marty absolutely nailed that call. When he buckles down and calls the game, he still sends chills up my spine.

[membengal]

Why can't people just say what happened instead of a bunch of posts that make it sound like Dunn did anything from hitting into a triple play to killing someone with his bat.

sorry man, did the best I could, I thought GOOD BYE was fairly clear.

At any rate, it was described shortly after that.

my bad, I guess.

[Buckeye33]

Did anyone see Dunn mouth to Dusty after coming out of the beating and say "I can't bunt Dusty"

HAHA!

Lord was that ball hit really far.

[Falls City Beer]

Why can't people just say what happened instead of a bunch of posts that make it sound like Dunn did anything from hitting into a triple play to killing someone with his bat.

Dunn 3-run game-winning home run. :p:

[coachw513]

Bow to me...:cool:

Keep working out :D

Collect on your bet with FCB, ok?? :thumbup:

[TeamCasey]

I think I had a little baseball organism today. ;)

[jojo]

My daughter is wondering why Dunn wasn't out for throwing his bat......

[membengal]

Now THAT is how you perform in front of a sell-out crowd.

Awesome, simply awesome.

It ought to be standing room tomorrow too, by all rights, with Volquez against Lee.

[Wheelhouse]

Marty had a great call on the homer. Compare to the new guys call of Janish's walk off.

[guttle11]

He just can't clear the moondeck. Hit the gym, Dunner.

[Tony Cloninger]

No problem.....I was just trying to be funny......beacuse a triple play would have been.

[fearofpopvol1]

When there were men on 1st and 2nd with no outs, you had to feel pretty good about your chances. I wasn't expecting a homerun, but I figured Dunn would be productive.

Great to see. 5 game winning streak. .500 is now in sight. Tomorrow is going to be a treat.

[coachw513]

By the way, Marty absolutely nailed that call. When he buckles down and calls the game, he still sends chills up my spine.

Yes he can...and yes he did...

[jojo]

I think I had a little baseball organism today. ;)

I'm glad it was good for you too.... :cool:

[VR]

By the way, Marty absolutely nailed that call. When he buckles down and calls the game, he still sends chills up my spine.

the truth

[Buckeye33]

By the way, Marty absolutely nailed that call. When he buckles down and calls the game, he still sends chills up my spine.

I know it will take a little while to get put on the internet somewhere, but when someone finds it I hope they post it.

I still get chills listening to Marty's call of Dunn walk off granny from 06. I was at that game and was the best game I've ever been to.

I'm hoping tomorrow will be as good, I'm headed down with my father.

[membengal]

Man, winning is fun.

The only bummer? Running around the house and finding no one remotely interested in sharing the excitement. I hate being marooned in Memphis some days.

[jojo]

Trade Dunn NOW. His value will never be higher. :cool:

[membengal]

By the way, removing the game thread curse appears to have done wonders for the team.

[membengal]

Jojo, if this team could get Bruce into RF in place of Jr., they really could threaten 85 or so wins.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

It will be a HUGE mistake to just let Adam Dunn walk.

I say negotiate a deal RIGHT NOW, as IMO he's on the verge of going on a tear.

Last four years (heading into 2008):

Age 24-27

42 HR
100 RBI
.254 AVG

.920 OPS

At 28, he is in his prime. I have been telling everyone I know that has been down on him so far, that he will probably have a career year. I still stand by my prediction of 47 HR, 110 RBI and a .940 OPS.

[coachw513]

Man, winning is fun.

The only bummer? Running around the house and finding no one remotely interested in sharing the excitement. I hate being marooned in Memphis some days.

Ice cream with the girls and a walkoff...can you imagine your angst if you'd gotten home 30 minutes later??...

You da' man...

Thanks for the PBP...allowed me to catch up in no time...

[dougdirt]

ZOMG Adam Dunn roooolz!

[coachw513]

By the way, isn't a mandatory part of our offensive strategy the "poor bunt-walkoff HR" AB??...we are pretty good at that...

[membengal]

Heh. Good point coach.

Second time this year we have confused a closer with that strategy...

[Falls City Beer]

Reds need to use the "bunt deek + home run" combo more often.

[VR]

Reds need to use the "bunt deek + home run" combo more often.

I think it's the only way they can hit 3 run dingers...isn't that the Reds first since EE's?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Reds need to use the "bunt deek + home run" combo more often.


I think Kepp did it the other night too, didn't he?

[guttle11]

If Dunn somehow drives in the winning run via strikeout tomorrow, he'll get the coveted Rob Deere "TTO" Award of Awesomeness.

[membengal]

Show of hands, who back on Monday looked at this week and thought, this team is about to go on a winning streak?

Not I.

[Will M]

Anyone else feel a good defender would have caught the 2nd inning double off the bat of Garko? It was well hit but catchable IMO.

Good pitching gave the Reds a chance to win it in the 9th.

I think the last time the Reds won five in a row was sometime last millenium.

[VR]

Show of hands, who back on Monday looked at this week and thought, this team is about to go on a winning streak?

Not I.

actually, somebody called it.....I'll check

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Anyone else feel a good defender would have caught the 2nd inning double off the bat of Garko? It was well hit but catchable IMO.

Good pitching gave the Reds a chance to win it in the 9th.

I think the last time the Reds won five in a row was sometime last millenium.

Did you see Dunn's catch over the wall on the foul ball?

[Will M]

Did you see Dunn's catch over the wall on the foul ball?

no. i missed that one. i guess it was a nice play?

[VR]

finally saw the replay....looked like Kobayashi threw up a little hot dog in his mouth as he walked off :)

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 247
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[MrCinatit]

The only crime is Harang pitched another great game and did not get the win - but at least he did not get the loss.
I liked the man-love being shown to Aaron by Manning and Thom during the broadcast - Thom has obviously seen him more, but it sounded like Rick is impressed with what he has seen of Harang, especially since he is tough against Cleveland.

[cincyinco]

The Indians used to have an Asian pitcher who ate *other* kinds of hot dogs.

Awesome post... best post of the thread by my vote. Good stuff. :beerme:

[membengal]

finally saw the replay....looked like Kobayashi threw up a little hot dog in his mouth as he walked off :)

Me too.

Gracious.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

no. i missed that one. i guess it was a nice play?

Awesome play.....for any left fielder.

[TeamBoone]

Don't know if anyone waited long enough to see it, but they (someone) interviewed Adam after the game. He said Dusty asked him if he could bunt and, he said "Yes, I do it every day in BP". Dusty said he'd give him a couple tries and then take the sign off.

One thing I find incredible... Dusty didn't double switch him out of the game like he often does.... good thing too.

[RedFanAlways1966]

I'd like to thank the walk-taking and home run hitting Adam Dunn for winning me $50. Big Indians fan at work got cocky and wanted to bet on which team would win this series. He wanted to bet $20 and being the loyal (dumb?) REDS fan... I told him to step up to the plate and put $50 on it. He did. Cha-ching.

Four consecutive quality starts are helping the cause. The REDS have won the last 6 times in which a starter has given them a QS.

[Reds Fanatic]

Just got back from the game. What a fantastic finish. I could not believe they were having him bunt. Lucky they took the bunt off and he absolutely crushed that homer to right.

[Will M]

No reason for him to bunt with the tying run already on 2nd. If Dunn hits instead of bunting you get 3 tries for the tie. plus a gapper ( or obviously a home run ) wins the game.

[Sea Ray]

I thought it was interesting that Dunn mentioned "getting out of the 7 hole" in his post game interview. I hadn't heard him comment on that before but he clearly hates it and takes it as demotion from Dusty based upon his poor start this year. Let's hope Dusty considers his message sent and moves up in the order.

[TeamBoone]

I thought it was interesting that Dunn mentioned "getting out of the 7 hole" in his post game interview. I hadn't heard him comment on that before but he clearly hates it and takes it as demotion from Dusty based upon his poor start this year. Let's hope Dusty considers his message sent and moves up in the order.

Wow! You read a lot into that comment. He didn't bring it up... the interviewer did. And Adam only said "let's hope" (or something like that).

I'm sure he does hate it, but I certainly didn't think his comment was very strong about the matter.

[Mario-Rijo]

Just got back from the game. What a fantastic finish. I could not believe they were having him bunt. Lucky they took the bunt off and he absolutely crushed that homer to right.

Just got back myself, what a game. I'll tell ya what I didn't even look for the ball to land because my whole section (sec. 136, row 00) knew it was gone the moment he hit it. We just started going nuts!

EE took a heck of a pitch in the leg though, from my viewpoint his leg buckled bigtime. It looked like it might have broke it. I was glad when he got up.

[*BaseClogger*]

great job with the PBP membengal. Very entertaining! :thumbup:

[redsrule2500]

Anyone have an mp3 of Marty's call?

[Buckeye33]

Anyone have an mp3 of Marty's call?

I was hoping someone would have had that up here by now as well.

Hopefully someone can get it. It would be appreciated.

[Matt700wlw]

5-0 since I moved to day shift :)

[Matt700wlw]

Memphis weather update.

Fluffy white clouds.

This is it. The one perfect spring day we get. Then straight to 12 million percent humidity.

It was nice when I was there....first weekend in May (Friday was a bit wet)

[Matt700wlw]

Hopefully Dunn will do something else productive before 50 more games pass him by...

;)

[vaticanplum]

It will be a HUGE mistake to just let Adam Dunn walk.

I say negotiate a deal RIGHT NOW, as IMO he's on the verge of going on a tear.

Last four years (heading into 2008):

Age 24-27

42 HR
100 RBI
.254 AVG

.920 OPS

At 28, he is in his prime. I have been telling everyone I know that has been down on him so far, that he will probably have a career year. I still stand by my prediction of 47 HR, 110 RBI and a .940 OPS.

Bin. go.

What an awesome finish. Also revealed the kinda achilles heel that is the Cleveland bullpen. Dunn is going to haunt this team for a while.

I had to leave mid-game and the Reds were losing when I left my car. I was downtown when the game ended when I heard the fireworks I have to admit I was pretty stunned. Was kept abreast by the following texts sent by an out-of-towner friend who is ostensibly not a Reds fan but finds the team and the broadcasts greatly entertaining:

6:48 pm Come on reds!
6:51 pm Well he killed that rally!
(I ask for details)
6:55 pm Bottom 9: 2-1 indians. Votto singles. Anti clutch ee draws clutch hbp. I send u a text. 7th place hitter adam dunn cant lay down bunt. With two strikes dunn kills rally leading the reds to a 4-2 win. baker and family brennamen are seen off camera sharpening darts for their dunn dartboard!

:)

Fantastic. Perfect baseball Saturday.

[Far East]

No reason for him to bunt with the tying run already on 2nd. If Dunn hits instead of bunting you get 3 tries for the tie. plus a gapper ( or obviously a home run ) wins the game.
I agree; you have 3 outs remaining, don't give up one-third of them.

OTOH, if he hits into a DP, then there is only one out remaining.

[Far East]

I thought it was interesting that Dunn mentioned "getting out of the 7 hole" in his post game interview. I hadn't heard him comment on that before but he clearly hates it and takes it as demotion from Dusty based upon his poor start this year. Let's hope Dusty considers his message sent and moves up in the order.
OTOH, Dunn's getting many RBI at #7. Superstition and the winning streak dictate that the lineup stays the same -- at least until the next loss.

[Sea Ray]

Wow! You read a lot into that comment. He didn't bring it up... the interviewer did. And Adam only said "let's hope" (or something like that).

I'm sure he does hate it, but I certainly didn't think his comment was very strong about the matter.

That's not my recollection TB. I admit I don't have a transcript but I don't recall the phrase "7 hole" coming out of anyone's mouth until Dunn brought it up.

[jojo]

That's not my recollection TB. I admit I don't have a transcript but I don't recall the phrase "7 hole" coming out of anyone's mouth until Dunn brought it up.

It's pretty clear that if Dusty was trying to send a message, that final at bat indicates Dunn isn't getting it. Wowsers what a inconsistent at bat. He was completely lazy on the first pitch where he tried to bunt. Completely nonchalant on the pitch he took. Come on! Be aggressive! Then finally he tried his best on the homerun. So even in that at bat he only showed work ethic for a single pitch.

Pay someone to take him. Please.

[Sea Ray]

It's pretty clear that if Dusty was trying to send a message, that final at bat indicates Dunn isn't getting it. Wowsers what a inconsistent at bat. He was completely lazy on the first pitch where he tried to bunt. Completely nonchalant on the pitch he took. Come on! Be aggressive! Then finally he tried his best on the homerun. So even in that at bat he only showed work ethic for a single pitch.

Pay someone to take him. Please.

Seems to me the Reds are undefeated since Dusty moved Dunn down in the order. Kind of hard to criticize Dusty's move now. Maybe batting order doesn't have as much to do with winning and losing as some of us fans thought. I don't care where he bats Dunn as long as they win!

[lollipopcurve]

Seems to me the Reds are undefeated since Dusty moved Dunn down in the order. Kind of hard to criticize Dusty's move now. Maybe batting order doesn't have as much to do with winning and losing as some of us fans thought. I don't care where he bats Dunn as long as they win!

You don't understand. It goes something like this:

1. There is an optimal lineup. If you use it over the course of 3,500 games, you will win more games than if you use any other lineup. Provided the games are played in succession so that the players do not age more than necessary in that timespan.

2. If the optimal lineup is not used and it scores a lot of runs, the runs are to be attributed to luck. Except if the runs are produced by Adam Dunn. Those runs are to be attributed to him.

3. Under no condition may credit for a sub-optimal lineup doing well be given to the manager (he who creates the lineup). And, in every instance of a sub-optimal lineup doing poorly the blame must be assigned to the manager (because, duh, he creates the lineup).

Simple enough.

[jojo]

You don't understand. It goes something like this:

Yes. Exactly in strawman world.

[lollipopcurve]

Yes. Exactly in strawman world.

Just poking fun, jojo. Absolutes need to have their hair mussed every now and then. Especially when they lay claim to "reality."

[TeamBoone]

That's not my recollection TB. I admit I don't have a transcript but I don't recall the phrase "7 hole" coming out of anyone's mouth until Dunn brought it up.

They showed the clip again during yesterday's game (Sunday). Thom was the first to bring it up.