Reds @ Dodgers--5/19/08

[reds44]

Freed 3b
Patterson cf
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Votto 1b
Hairston ss
Bako c
Arroyo p

Kind of dissapointed not to see Janish in there. Get the winning streak to 7.

[Gainesville Red]

Reds baseball and Vin Scully for me. Sounds like the begining of a good night.

[reds44]

I better get Vin and not George.

[OnBaseMachine]

Just when you thought the Reds defense couldn't get any worse, it does.

[NC Reds]

Patterson is back in the lineup. Yippee. :(

[AmarilloRed]

Patterson is back in the lineup. Yippee. :(

It could be worse. He could be hitting leadoff.:rolleyes:

[VR]

I got a Griffey dinger tonight in my boxscore

[Reds Fanatic]

4 pitch walk to Freel and Penny is not near the strike zone.

[RedsManRick]

Freel over EE -- interesting choice. With this group, I'd have gone:

Freel
Votto
Dunn
Griffey
Phillips
Hairston
Patterson
Bako

[RedlegJake]

Freel walks and nothing Penney threw hit 90 or was close to the zone. I hope he's off

[LoganBuck]

4 pitch walk to Freel and Penny is not near the strike zone.

Corey Patterson the cure for any ailing arm.

[AmarilloRed]

Edwin Encarnacion is getting a day off. He's 9-for-53 over his last 14 games with only four RBI.

"I think he needs a day," Dusty Baker said. "I told him last night and he didn't fight it, so you know he needs it."

A day off will help Edwin.

[Reds Fanatic]

Patterson grounds into a 5-4 FC. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior lines a single to right. 1st and 3rd.

[NC Reds]

Nice hit and run. Runners on the corners.

[reds44]

Come on Phillips. Just get Patterson in from 3rd.

[sonny]

Early runs are a must for this series.

[smith288]

The Reds should be staring at every pitch until the guy hits the strikezone ech at bat. He is WILD.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles to left. 1-0 Reds. 1st and 2nd.

[NC Reds]

BP gets the job done. 1-0.

[RedsManRick]

1st and 2nd, Dunner better be bunting. Gotta avoid the double play!

[smith288]

Dunn just never looks good against this dude.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[RedsManRick]

Sigh, another unproductive out from Dunn. Let's go Joey!

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto flies out to left. 1-0 Reds mid 1st.

[sonny]

23 pitch inning? I'll take it.

[smith288]

Sigh, another unproductive out from Dunn. Let's go Joey!
Could have been worse, he could have killed a puppy.

[Tommyjohn25]

Penny was beginning to dial it up there as the inning went on.

[smith288]

23 pitch inning? I'll take it.
Enjoy your birthday present from Dunn?

[RedlegJake]

Voto flies out. You can watch Penney locking in - and his fastball up to 95. Need to get to him early, hold the lead and hope the pen holds em.

[VR]

gameday has him at 25?

just saw Peavy to the dl....that's nice for the SD trip

[CTA513]

Dunn just never looks good against this dude.

Hes now 3 for 26 with 14 Ks against Penny after that last at bat.

[VR]

"we're together again"...kind of a catchy tune, has everyone heard that before?

[Reds Fanatic]

Pierre grounds out to 2nd. 1 out.

[RedsManRick]

Penny doesn't often go deep. Good to see us run that pitch count early. Got to get to that soft underbelly before Broxton and Saito. Though Kuo has been dominant this year...

[sonny]

Enjoy your birthday present from Dunn?

was kind of a rally killer. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Votto. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Martin grounds out to short. Good inning for Bronson. 1-0 Reds after 1.

[OnBaseMachine]

Though he made the play, watching Hairston field that ball was rough. He's clearly not a SS.

[RedlegJake]

1-2-3 nice start for Bronson.

[Falls City Beer]

Hes now 3 for 26 with 14 Ks against Penny after that last at bat.

Should have bunted.

[Cyclone792]

Though he made the play, watching Hairston field that ball was rough. He's clearly not a SS.

You're reading my mind, OBM. I wasn't sure he was going to get there at first.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bronson got through that inning on only 9 pitches.

[Tommyjohn25]

Should have bunted.

Ohhhh boy. :D

[smith288]

was kind of a rally killer. :)
Disappointing... Where's the honor in not sacrificing yourself?

[Patrick Bateman]

You're reading my mind, OBM. I wasn't sure he was going to get there at first.

Even the throw was David Eckstein weak. That was about as bad as you can look on a routine grounder without tossing it away.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hairston strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[RedlegJake]

Hairston-Bako-Arroyo-Freel-Patterson. That's a pretty bad 5 man stretch right there.

[smith288]

Does Welsh not realize these pitchers warm up pregame? It not like Penny arrived 5 min before the game and picked up his glove.

[Heath]

I thought they had a day off.

I read the schedule wrong. It's next Monday they have off.

Oh, well, the wife will be happy. I get to fold laundry.

[AmarilloRed]

Hairston was put in the game for his offense, not his defense. He is 7 for 14 his last 4 starts with a double in each game. A strikeout is not a good beginning, however.

[smith288]

I thought they had a day off.

I read the schedule wrong. It's next Monday they have off.

Oh, well, the wife will be happy. I get to fold laundry.
Wife would appreciate my effort, but she takes pride in her methods in folding laundry and that is something I cant master.

[Reds Fanatic]

Great AB by Bako. A 10 pitch walk.

[NC Reds]

Great AB by Bakowicz.

[sonny]

Marty seems more chatty than usual tonight.

[RedlegJake]

very very nice AB to draw the walk by Bako, making Penney work

[reds44]

What a fantastic AB by Bako.

[Tony Cloninger]

Last time i checked Hairston is not hitting too badly....and while we can assume he will start to not hit as well, why include him and even Freel in that list when they have been hitting well?

The only pitch Dunn got in the 1st was the first pitch down the pipe...after that he was swinging at bad balls. The strike 2 call to Votto was bad.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice bunt by Arroyo. Bako goes to 2nd. 2 outs.

[NC Reds]

That bunt was JTM good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel with an infield hit. 1st and 3rd.

[smith288]

I think when you are going to bunt, let one pitch go by just to help with the pitch count. Wait for a 1 strike count before you bunt...especially if a pitcher is showing signs of control issues... Just MHO

[RedlegJake]

Arroyo gets his job done. Up to Freel

[guttle11]

If that's indicative of the SS Hu can become in time, the Dodgers have a good one. Very nice play that he made look ridiculously easy.

[reds44]

Hu saves a run, but Freel with an infield hit.

1st and 3rd for CPatt.

[RedlegJake]

Freel with the inf single. C'mon Corey.

[Reds Fanatic]

Patterson singles to right. 2-0 Reds. 1st and 2nd.

[NC Reds]

Corey shuts me up with a sharp single. Fear the brow.

[RedsManRick]

Nickle and diming Penny to death. Junior could really make this one fun with #598 here.

[guttle11]

And Patterson gets an RBI single.

When it's going well...

[reds44]

Back to back two out hits net Corey with an RBI.

2-0

[smith288]

Corey shuts me up with a sharp single. Fear the brow.
Not to mention that he needs to shave between innings.

[Reds Fanatic]

Loney makes a diving stop and throws out Junior. 2-0 Reds mid 2nd.

[Tony Cloninger]

The guys who suck.....coming through...making it less likely they will play less or be replaced fast enough.

[reds44]

That was a good play by Loney. Reds just need to stay patient against Penny.

[RedlegJake]

Hairston-Bako-Arroyo-Freel-Patterson. That's a pretty bad 5 man stretch right there.

I won't take it back but I am pleasantly surprised

[sonny]

what penny's pitch count now?

[Reds Fanatic]

Penny has already thrown 47 pitches.

[smith288]

Loney makes a diving stop and throws out Junior. 2-0 Reds mid 2nd.
Seems like everything Griffey hits are worm burners.

[OnBaseMachine]

Griff swung at ball three on 2-0. That is starting to become a trend for him.

[Falls City Beer]

I won't take it back but I am pleasantly surprised

Maybe the more people say Freel sucks, the angrier Farney gets. Whatever the case, Ryan's shutting some yaps rather nicely of late, I'd say.

[RedlegJake]

Griff swung at ball three on 2-0. That is starting to become a trend for him.

He looks like he's presing. A night off might help, but, sadly, I think some its just a tick slower bat.

[CrackerJack]

Uh, did Welsh just say you could eat off the floor at Dodger Stadium? Guess he didn't get the memo....

[Reds Fanatic]

Kent grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

[RedlegJake]

Maybe the more people say Freel sucks, the angrier Farney gets. Whatever the case, Ryan's shutting some yaps rather nicely of late, I'd say.

Yes he is. And he deserves to be in the lineup right now.

[VR]

Maybe the more people say Freel sucks, the angrier Farney gets. Whatever the case, Ryan's shutting some yaps rather nicely of late, I'd say.

Good theory. Hey Ryan, you suck.

[Reds Fanatic]

Loney lines a single to right.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kemp singles to center. 1st and 2nd.

[AmarilloRed]

We need a double play. Let's get it done, Arroyo.

[Reds Fanatic]

DeWitt grounds into a 4-6-3 DP. 2-0 Reds after 2.

[OnBaseMachine]

Big double play there. Nice job Bronson.

[guttle11]

Thing of beauty half the time, that 4-6-3.

[Tommyjohn25]

We need a double play. Let's get it done, Arroyo.

Ask and you shall receive.

[reds44]

4-6-3

Nice turn by Hairston.

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo through 2 on 28 pitches.

[RedlegJake]

We need a double play. Let's get it done, Arroyo.

You called for it - you got it. An assist to you.

[sonny]

I feel a big inning coming on.

[MWM]

Arroyo's breaking stuff has a lot more bite recently, plus his fastball has been back up around 89 MPH. That's a good sign.

[guttle11]

Hopefully the Reds can avoid the usual "hack away with a lead" strategy. Happens just about every time they make a pitcher work early a build a lead.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips lines a single to center.

[OnBaseMachine]

We need a double play. Let's get it done, Arroyo.

Ask for a four run inning by the Reds.

[wheels]

I'll tell ya, it's a judy fest tonight.

All singles I believe.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips steals 2nd.

[smith288]

TOWERING bomb

[Cyclone792]

Dunn's heating up!

[sonny]

Adam Bomb!

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn homers to right. Homers in 5 straight games! 4-0 Reds!!

[NC Reds]

Dunn tells Vin Scully to shut his mouth.

[MWM]

Another rally killer for the donkey. :cool:

[CrackerJack]

5 games with a HR for Dunn? In da zone...

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunner homers!!!!

Dunn tied the Reds franchise record by homering in five straight games.

[Joseph]

I'll tell ya, it's a judy fest tonight.

All singles I believe.

What was that?

[mbgrayson]

Dunn shoulda bunted there....lol

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds out to short. 1 out.

[reds44]

Somebody hose off Adam Dunn. He is on fire.

4-0.

[RedlegJake]

Man oh man. Dunn is locked in.

[VR]

Dunn better thank BP for getting into scoring position

[MWM]

I don't mind George Grande all that much but I can't stand the term "playing add on." It's just dumb.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Pardon me if I use a recycled post of mine from the last two gamethreads:


It will be a HUGE mistake to just let Adam Dunn walk.

I say negotiate a deal RIGHT NOW, as IMO he's on the verge of going on a tear.

Last four years (heading into 2008):

Age 24-27

42 HR
100 RBI
.254 AVG

.920 OPS

At 28, he is in his prime. I have been telling everyone I know that has been down on him so far, that he will probably have a career year. I still stand by my prediction of 47 HR, 110 RBI and a .940 OPS.

[AmarilloRed]

You got 2 of your 4 runs, OBM. I wish I had asked for it before the bomb, however.:)

[smith288]

Hairston looks freaking lost.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hairston fouls out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hairston looks freaking lost.

Yeah, he's pretty well over matched against Penny.

[Tom Servo]

I don't mind George Grande all that much but I can't stand the term "playing add on." It's just dumb.
I actually wish I had the Reds announcers. I love Scully's voice, but it's clear the guy is just reading the same cards about the away team each night. How many times do I need to hear about Freel going to community college in Florida?

[Reds Fanatic]

Bako flies out to left. 4-0 Reds mid 3rd.

[Cyclone792]

Pardon me if I use a recycled post of mine from the last two gamethreads:


I posted this after yesterday's game and I think it still applies.

It will be a HUGE mistake to just let Adam Dunn walk.

I say negotiate a deal RIGHT NOW, as IMO he's on the verge of going on a tear.

Last four years (heading into 2008):

Age 24-27

42 HR
100 RBI
.254 AVG

.920 OPS

At 28, he is in his prime. I have been telling everyone I know that has been down on him so far, that he will probably have a career year. I still stand by my prediction of 47 HR, 110 RBI and a .940 OPS.

Yup, Dunn's showing his worth to the offense during this winning streak. Since last Monday's game he's slugging 1.000, and that's over a six game winning streak and a 4-0 lead early in tonight's game.

[OnBaseMachine]

64 pitches through three innings for Penny.

Come on Bronson, hold that lead and make it seven straight.

[RedlegJake]

64 pitches in 3 innings for Penney. He's done in 5 unless the Reds knock him out earlier.

[RedlegJake]

Imagine a hot Dunn and Bruce in the same lineup. Can't wait!

[Reds Fanatic]

Hu pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

[Topcat]

Isn't it great to see the Reds firing on all cylinders? the kids are actually living up to the hype and just maybe they can keep inspiring the vets into believing this is not the same old Reds:)

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Imagine a hot Dunn and Bruce in the same lineup. Can't wait!

Hopefully we get more than 1/2 a season of it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Penny flies out to center. 2 outs.

[smith288]

Hopefully we get more than 1/2 a season of it.
No way... Have to keep Patterson in there somewhere (says Dusty). Bruce will rot unless Patterson or Freel gets hurt.

[Reds Fanatic]

Pierre walks.

[RedlegJake]

Walks Pierre on 5 pitches.

[OnBaseMachine]

Five pitch two out walk to Pierre. No need to pitch around a guy like Pierre right there. Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite him.

[AmarilloRed]

The Dodgers actually have several pitchers who can do long relief: Esteban Loaiza-5.63 ERA, Hong Chih-Kuo- 2.40 ERA, Chan-Ho Park-2.17 ERA. They may actually do better with a long reliever than Penny.

[Kc61]

Dunner homers!!!!

Dunn tied the Reds franchise record by homering in five straight games.


I don't know if it's his mechanics or if the pitchers haven't been fooling him -- but Dunn isn't losing his balance at the plate. His form up there seems excellent. He's not lunging at the ball.

Arroyo didn't need to walk Pierre there. Man on first for the Bums with two outs.

[Tony Cloninger]

Of all the people to walk....the Omar Moreno clone.

He looked off balance against Penny in the first but then he grabbed hold of the same pitch Penny threw by him twice....good to see that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ethier doubles to the right field corner. 2nd and 3rd.

[OnBaseMachine]

Ethier doubles, Pierre holds at third.

Two out walks to guys like Pierre are killers. Throw strikes, he's not going to homer.

[RedlegJake]

blasted Ethier. (grudgingly) nice at bat. Lets get the last out Bronson.

[AmarilloRed]

Pierre is a fast runner; shouldn't he have scored on a double?

[smith288]

Pierre is a fast runner; shouldn't he have scored on a double?
He wasnt running on the pitch and the relay was slick

[smith288]

Thanks Hairston

[NC Reds]

Jerry Hairston sucks.

[Tom Servo]

Ohhhh jeez

[CrackerJack]

Please put Janish in, please

[Reds Fanatic]

There is why Janish has to play. Hairston double clutches and throws the ball away. 4-2 Reds.

[vaticanplum]

Hairston with a bananas throw to first. What in god's name was that.

[jesusfan]

Janish please...

[reds44]

Jerry Hairston playing SS costs the Reds 2 runs.

[guttle11]

Hopefully that got Dusty's attention. Janish needs to play everyday. Hairston has much more value off the bench than in the starting lineup.

[NC Reds]

Janish only makes that play 99% of the time. Dusty is dumb.

[Cyclone792]

That's why Jerry Hairston shouldn't be playing shortstop. It was just a matter of time.

[mbgrayson]

Are we missing Country Kepp?

[smith288]

This is so frustrating that we put that black hole at SS.

[OnBaseMachine]

Thanks Dusty. It's clear to everyone but you that Hairston is not a SS.

[RedsManRick]

Hairton short armed that one. Completely rushed the throw. WTG Jerry!

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Is there are reason that Janish gets called up and is not playing everyday?

[RedlegJake]

It burns me when this happens with two outs. No excuse.

[OnBaseMachine]

The error is awful, but walking Pierre with two outs in a boneheaded move.

[VR]

Any updates on Gonzo?

[BuckeyeRedleg]

That's a routine play for a decent SS.

[smith288]

I would be laughing at Votto. That was a lollipop compared to what Phillips and Edwin throws. (Still an ugly throw... not really blaming Votto)

[RedsManRick]

Hurts that much more in a really long inning. These innings just kill your pitch count.

[dougdirt]

Is there are reason that Janish gets called up and is not playing everyday?

Because he is only hitting .800?

[reds44]

When you walk Juan Pierre, it's going to catch up to you everytime.

[RedlegJake]

Dusty won't bench Hairston for an error, or two, or three. Hairston and Patterson are his guys.

[Tony Cloninger]

Where's Ed Crosby when you need him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Since that walk to Pierre Arroyo has thrown a load of pitches.

[kbrake]

Any updates on Gonzo?

I saw him Friday night walking around in the dugout before the game. Big brace on his knee and an obvious limp. He didn't look close to coming back.

[Reds Fanatic]

Walk to Kent makes it 1st and 2nd.

[guttle11]

Ah Reds, always have to make it "fun". Bad walk, bad error, another walk...

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo already up to 60 pitches.

[RedlegJake]

That's now 21 pitches SINCE geting the second out.

[Tony Cloninger]

You guys don't think that Votto could have done a better job of stopping that ball or digging it out?

[OnBaseMachine]

Loney up now. Oh boy.

This defense is really holding this team back and unfortunately Dusty doesn't seem to care.

[mbgrayson]

Arroyo at 60 pitches now...

[smith288]

These are the instances that seperates a mgr who allows for a team to win and a mgr that manages a team to wins despite himself. Ugh

[VR]

Kent walks on Arroyo's 32nd pitch of the inning

[Reds Fanatic]

Loney flies out to center. 4-2 Reds after 3.

[RedlegJake]

Finally. Horrible inning.

[Tom Servo]

You guys don't think that Votto could have done a better job of stopping that ball or digging it out?
The throw didn't look like it was anywhere close.

[smith288]

Look at the bright side... Penny is probably tight again! Take pitches Reds...

[guttle11]

Wow, that was not good at all, other than the fact that the Dodgers swung at the first pitch against a struggling, laboring pitcher for once. Easy pop fly to Patterson ends the inning Thanks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Amazing Arroyo starts with a 9 pitch first and now he has thrown only 3 pitches less than Penny. Looks like a long night for both bullpens.

[vaticanplum]

Anybody else die a little when they see Joe Torre in a Dodgers hat? Anyone?

I'm not exagerrating: it seems beyond wrong. Like the angularity of the logo on his cap is crushing his skull or something.

[RedlegJake]

Once again Bronson is victimized, although he bears part of that for the walk to Pierre. Still he should have been out of the inning

[VR]

I saw him Friday night walking around in the dugout before the game. Big brace on his knee and an obvious limp. He didn't look close to coming back.

Ahh, nearly paralyzed from the waist down. Surprised Kremcheck hasn't declared him 'ready any day now'

[smith288]

The throw didn't look like it was anywhere close.
Actually, i think it was on line but Votto leaned away trying to protect himself and making an "ole" stab at it

[reds44]

You guys don't think that Votto could have done a better job of stopping that ball or digging it out?
He could have done a much better job of blocking the ball, no doubt. He was more concerned about getting an out than saving the one run though, and I am not going to fault him for that.

[RedlegJake]

Uneraned runs, though, Arroyo's era down to 5.72

[Reds Fanatic]

Arroyo walks.

[mbgrayson]

Arroyo running up Penny's pitrch count....Ball 4.

[smith288]

Hey, Penny is cold and wild again. Dusty is a GENIUS!

[RedlegJake]

Arroyo walks.

[AmarilloRed]

You know who we have who could do long relief? Josh Fogg. Let's hope Arroyo can go 5 or 6 innings and make that unneccessary.

[Kc61]

These are the instances that seperates a mgr who allows for a team to win and a mgr that manages a team to wins despite himself. Ugh

I guess I don't get this. Hairston hasn't had an error since he took over at shortstop. He has swung the bat well and played decently enough in the field in an unfamiliar position. Why is it so unreasonable for Dusty to play him?

Dusty probably didn't want to play Janish against a good veteran pitcher like Penny. He doesn't have that many choices with injuries to his starter and backup.

Too bad Hairston made an error, he had time to get in better position. He rushed the throw. But I think Dusty deserves a little more credit. His team has won six in a row, he must know something.

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel sacrifices Arroyo to 2nd. 1 out.

[RedlegJake]

Hey, Penny is cold and wild again. Dusty is a GENIOUS!

Making me spit my pop

[reds44]

Freel with a sac bunt?

[OnBaseMachine]

I guess I don't get this. Hairston hasn't had an error since he took over at shortstop. He has swung the bat well and played decently enough in the field in an unfamiliar position. Why is it so unreasonable for Dusty to play him?

Dusty probably didn't want to play Janish against a good veteran pitcher like Penny. He doesn't have that many choices with injuries to his starter and backup.

Too bad Hairston made an error, he had time to get in better position. He rushed the throw. But I think Dusty deserves a little more credit. His team has won six in a row, he must know something.

Hairston has poor range and makes every routine play look hard.

And leave it to Patterson to swing at the first pitch. Somehow Arroyo gets thrown out at 3rd.

[guttle11]

Man, the Reds are quite schizo, aren't they?

What the heck was he thinking?

[mbgrayson]

That throw was Hamiltonesque....

[Reds Fanatic]

Patterson swings at the first pitch flies out to center and Arroyo is thrown out at 3rd. The Reds are starting to play like they always do on the west coast. 4-2 Reds mid 4th.

[reds44]

That was an amazingly bad 6 outs sequence by the Reds.

[vaticanplum]

But I think Dusty deserves a little more credit. His team has won six in a row, he must know something.

Six games do not a season make.

[VR]

Amazing Arroyo starts with a 9 pitch first and now he has thrown only 3 pitches less than Penny. Looks like a long night for both bullpens.

Ladies and gentlemen....introducing Josh Fogg.

Meanwhile....7 pitch inning for Penny

[Reds Fanatic]

Drives me crazy when they swing at the first pitch on pitchers that have been wild all night.

[VR]

Man, the Reds are quite schizo, aren't they?

What the heck was he thinking?

It's only a 7 year trend

[TeamBoone]

Arroyo could easily have been hurt big time on that play. Their player fell on top of him as he slid between his legs (sort of).

[Reds Fanatic]

Kemp singles to left.

[PuffyPig]

That was an amazingly bad 6 outs sequence by the Reds.

We've scored in every inning but 1.

You can't score in every inning.

[MWM]

Those pitches to Kemp looked really bad. They had nothing on them. They looked like the Arroyo from April.

[redsrule2500]

We've scored in every inning but 1.

You can't score in every inning.

Sure you can. Not likely, but you can.

[reds44]

Odds Janish starts tomorrow?

1-1?

[Kc61]

Six games do not a season make.

No, but one error by the shortstop doesn't make a season either.

And Patterson gets dissed for swinging at the first pitch, as if nobody ever hits successfully on the first pitch.

The team is playing well, they seem to be more aggressive than in years, let's give them some credit.

[Reds Fanatic]

DeWitt strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[reds44]

We've scored in every inning but 1.

You can't score in every inning.
I wasn't really talking about the offense. Error+bad baserunning by Arroyo.

[PuffyPig]

Sure you can. Not likely, but you can.

Name a team that scores in every inning.

[RedlegJake]

Name a team that scores in every inning.

I think he was talking about 1 game, which is still unlikely but its been done

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play. Arroyo picks the runner off. 2 outs.

[sonny]

booyah! a pickoff!

[PuffyPig]

I wasn't really talking about the offense. Error+bad baserunning by Arroyo.


Arroyo got thrown out on an absolutely great throw. It happens. If you never get thrown out, you are being to cautious.

[RedlegJake]

Arroyo buys himself an out. Nice play.

[reds44]

Arroyo got thrown out on an absolutely great throw. It happens. If you never get thrown out, you are being to cautious.
You should never get thrown out at third with 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hu walks.

[OnBaseMachine]

Another two out walk to a sub par hitter.

[reds44]

All bite on Arroyo's curve is gone after that inning.

[VR]

booyah! a pickoff!

How many is that for the Reds this year?

[Reds Fanatic]

Penny strikes out swinging. 4-2 Reds after 4.

[vaticanplum]

No, but one error by the shortstop doesn't make a season either.

And Patterson gets dissed for swinging at the first pitch, as if nobody ever hits successfully on the first pitch.

The team is playing well, they seem to be more aggressive than in years, let's give them some credit.

Hey, you've never seen me diss Patterson. I like Patterson.

But I'm not ready to call this team on fire or even aggressive yet. The past several days they're merely (and barely) making up for the underperformance they've thrown out there for much of the season. I predict that within a couple of weeks it will even out and then we'll start to see what this team is really made of. I don't know what that is yet. That doesn't mean I'm overly pessmistic or grumpy or statastic or not a true fan. It means that I see this as a team whose players and manager have yet to prove to me that they've got any real mojo going. Or intelligence. Or creativity. I'd love to see them prove it to me. They do have talent.

[Reds Fanatic]

Through 4 innings:

Arroyo 76 pitches
Penny 71 pitches

[TeamBoone]

No, but one error by the shortstop doesn't make a season either.

No, but ya gotta admit, it was a big 2-run error on what should have been an easy throw.

[AmarilloRed]

It might be their first pickoff this year.I have no stats to back it up however.

[RedlegJake]

Penney Ks on 3 pitches. Arroyo's era now down to 5.61.

[TeamBoone]

It might be their first pickoff this year.I have no stats to back it up however.

No, it's not, but I couldn't tell you which games.

[Tom Servo]

Hu walks.
Hu's on first.

[TeamBoone]

Penney Ks on 3 pitches. Arroyo's era now down to 5.61.

Were those two runs considered earned?

[PuffyPig]

You should never get thrown out at third with 2 outs.


I wouldn't say never, ever.

You are right that you shouldn't try unless your chances are at least 95%. But if you want zero outs at third, you would probably hold up many, many times where you could easly make it.

There's lots of runs that score from third with 2 outs that don't score from first. Getting to third has some value, and to say you should never try is, IMO, just too cautious.

[vaticanplum]

Hu's on first.

Well, I laughed. It just never goes out of style.

[Tom Servo]

Junior noooo.

[NC Reds]

It's painful to watch Griff run.

[RedlegJake]

The 2 runs came on a 2 out error and thus are unearned

[Reds Fanatic]

Junior singles to center. Tries to go to 2nd as Kemp bobbles the ball but Junior is thrown out at 2nd.

[mbgrayson]

"Wheels' Griffey nailed at second trying to stretch that one...

[CTA513]

The Reds are giving away outs.

[redsrule2500]

Griffey yet again proves why he should be on the bench. Amazing.

His slow trot to first killed him.