Reds / Padres 7-22-08

[Red in Chicago]

sorry, just got home...someone please post lineups and carry on...

[Screwball]

Cueto looked pretty tough in the first. 2 Ks, a walk, and a pop-up. His fastball hit 96 at one point.

Bruce with a solid base knock into right to start off the bottom of the first.

[Homer Bailey]

1-6-3 DP but Bruce was safe at 2nd. Of course the call is blown. Greene didn't have his foot on the bag when he caught the ball.

[flyer85]

dusty sure takes it easy on opposing rhps

[Screwball]

Phillips strikes out on a breaking ball way down and away. Seems RHPs know what we know - he'll chase that just about every time with 2 strikes.

[Homer Bailey]

dusty sure takes it easy on opposing rhps

Does it out of respect. Wouldn't want Peavy to dislike Dusty. After all, he is a players manager.

[Screwball]

Cueto: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 3 K, 1 BB.

28 pitches through 2.

[Screwball]

Dunn with a rocket that one hops the RF wall. He hits it too hard so he's held to a single.

[Screwball]

Valentin with his obligatory out.

[Screwball]

EE pops out to short. Dunn still on first with 2 out.

Bako now up.

[Razor Shines]

Valentin with his obligatory out.

Out of respect for Dusty's respect for Peavy.

[Homer Bailey]

The Reds really don't have any good hitting catchers. Somehow Dusty manages to get two of them in the lineup without using a DH.

[VR]

Does it out of respect. Wouldn't want Peavy to dislike Dusty. After all, he is a players manager.

Peavy has earned the right to face a lesser lineup. He's old school.

[Screwball]

Peavy's 2008 splits:

RHB: .192/.242/.346/.588
LHB: .267/.324/.405/.729

His career splits look very similar as well. Dude's just death on righties.

BTW, Bako struck out.

[Homer Bailey]

Did anyone notice that it took George Grande exactly 8 seconds into the broadcast to say "get em on get em over get em in?"

Literally:

"Along with the crafty left hander Chris Welsh, I'm George Grande. Get em on get em over get em in..... blah blah blah."

My finger went right to mute.

[Screwball]

Cueto leads off the 3rd by clipping the catcher Carlin's foot.

Runner on 1st with no out as Peavy steps in to bunt.

[Screwball]

Peavy strikes out trying to bunt. 4 Ks for Cueto.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn with a rocket that one hops the RF wall. He hits it too hard so he's held to a single.

He can't even double correctly ;)

[Screwball]

Pete Rose wearing possibly the ugliest hat ever made.

[Tom Servo]

Nice lime green hat, Pete.

[jesusfan]

Dunn has been hot lately... So has Cueto... nice pitch!

[Screwball]

Lil' Hairston goes down swinging on a slider. 5 Ks for Cueto.

[Tom Servo]

I had just asked my dad if Cueto always had a red glove because I couldn't recall him ever having it before, and then Welsh answers that question.

[Screwball]

Cueto jams Edgar Gonzalez but he's able to muscle it over the head of Phillips for a bloop single.

1st and 3rd with two out as the always tough Brian Giles digs in.

[Matt700wlw]

filthy

[Ltlabner]

Thom B describes Cueto's pitch as "wicked"

[Tom Servo]

Stupid Giles.

[VR]

The Reds really don't have any good hitting catchers. Somehow Dusty manages to get two of them in the lineup without using a DH.

Ross has OPS'ed 1.058 over the last month

Bako has OPS'ed .398 over the last month.



It's so scary that Bako keeps getting run out there.

[Screwball]

Giles, of course, doubles into RCF to plate two.

2-0 Padres.

[jesusfan]

Another day... Same ole Reds...

[Screwball]

Adrian Gonzalez is also jammed but muscles one into RF for a single scoring Giles.

3-0 Padres.

[Matt700wlw]

3-0. Wow.

[VR]

Has Cueto ever had a one run inning? It's all or nuttin' with that boy.

[Falls City Beer]

Come on. Who didn't see this coming?

[Screwball]

Cueto pitching better than his runs allowed indicates. I saw about 2 bad pitches that inning, yet 3 runs scored.

[Screwball]

Cueto grounds out to 1st.

1 out in the bottom of the 3rd.

[Matt700wlw]

Padres are 8-0 vs the Reds when Peavy starts

[jesusfan]

Bruce singles to left...

[Screwball]

Bruce singles sharply into LF. He's 2-2 so far.

Runner on 1st with 1 out. Kepp up.

[Red in Chicago]

i would love to hear an interview between harang and castellini...now that would be something keeping me at the edge of my seat

[Matt700wlw]

Bruce!!

[Hollcat]

All Reds Killer team

Brian McCann
Brian Giles
Bill Hall
Lance Berkman
Jason Bay
Albert Pujols

Seems as is Kouzmanoff is becoming one.
Who else belongs on the list?

[Screwball]

Kepp flies out to CF. 2 out with Bruce still on 1st.

Griff settles in.

[flyer85]

Bruce singles sharply into LF. He's 2-2 so far.

Runner on 1st with 1 out. Kepp up.too bad Dusty didn't bat a couple of LHBs right behind. A lefty specialist isn't going to matter when you don't score off the starter.

[Hollcat]

All Reds Killer team

Brian McCann
Brian Giles
Bill Hall
Lance Berkman
Jason Bay
Albert Pujols

Seems as is Kouzmanoff is becoming one.
Who else belongs on the list?


Also Mike Fontenot is working his way onto the list.

[klw]

All Reds Killer team

Brian McCann
Brian Giles
Bill Hall
Lance Berkman
Jason Bay
Albert Pujols

Seems as is Kouzmanoff is becoming one.
Who else belongs on the list?

Roy Oswalt
Tom Glavine

[Screwball]

All Reds Killer team

Brian McCann
Brian Giles
Bill Hall
Lance Berkman
Jason Bay
Albert Pujols

Seems as is Kouzmanoff is becoming one.
Who else belongs on the list?

Adam LaRoche this year.

[Screwball]

Yikes, don't know about that called strike 3 on Griff. At any rate, he strikes out. ETA: Gameday has it at the knees and on the corner. Great pitch by Peavy.

3-0 Pads after 3.

[jesusfan]

It's a little bit different when those guys are on everyone's all time killers list... It's guys like Bill Hall and Jeff Suppan over the years that have killed us that kills me!

[Screwball]

Chase Headley flies out to shallow LF.

1 down and Khalil Greene's now up.

[jesusfan]

Khalil Green Killing us now...

[Screwball]

Greene smokes a 3-2 pitch into deep LCF for a double. Both doubles against Cueto have come on full counts.

Runner on 2nd, 1 out with Carlin due up.

[Screwball]

Cueto's changeup is nasty. Not sure why he doesn't throw it more often.

[VR]

Cueto's changeup is nasty. Not sure why he doesn't throw it more often.

Bako calling the game.

[Screwball]

Luke Carlin grounds weakly to 2nd on a good changeup. Greene, however, advances to 3rd.

2 out with Peavy at bat.

[Screwball]

Bako calling the game.

Is he still not allowed to shake him off?

[jesusfan]

3-0 mid 4...

[Hollcat]

I'm surprised we got Peavy out. It seems like pitchers have killed us in key situations this year.

[Screwball]

Peavy Ks on a hard slider down and away. 6 Ks against just 1 BB for Cueto through 4. 75 pitches thrown though.

Still 3-0 Pads in the middle of 4.

[Screwball]

Phillips grounds to 2nd. 1 out.

Dunn up.

[Screwball]

Dunn smokes one to the right side of the field but The Shift gets him out. 2 down, nobody on with Valentin now up.

[jesusfan]

Javy singles to left... c'mon Edwin

[Screwball]

Valentin forgets to make an out and singles into left. :)

[Stormy]

Come on. Who didn't see this coming?

See what coming?

[Screwball]

EE with a good eye works the walk. Runners at 1st and 2nd with, sigh, Bako now up.

[jesusfan]

Edwin walks... 1st and 2nd for Bako...

[WVRedsFan]

It's now or never, Bako.

[Stormy]

Cueto pitching better than his runs allowed indicates. I saw about 2 bad pitches that inning, yet 3 runs scored.

Agreed. Filthy movement, throwing 3 pitches for strikes, missing bats galore, and stellar control. He grooved one bad 3-2 fastball to Giles, one pitch after Giles barely stayed alive on a wicked slider. It happens to the greatest of them... Cueto is an absolutely phenomenal talent, with a potentially better arsenal than Volquez IMHO.

[jesusfan]

Bako K's.. why does he still play???

[WVRedsFan]

Never. Bako K's.

[Screwball]

Peavy outclasses Bako and adds another K to his total. 4 for him through 4.

3-0 Fathers.

[WVRedsFan]

Bako K's.. why does he still play???

Well...

After last night's performance by Ross and Bako reverting back to his norm, it just might be that it doesn't matter who catches. Ross has been the best so far, but he's due for his annual swoon.

[Kc61]

Watching this game, I get the feeling the season ended last night in the ninth inning. Well, we made it to late July this year. It's been worse.

[Falls City Beer]

Bako K's.. why does he still play???

Catchers can't play every day. And it's not like Ross is good enough to play 5 out of every 6. At least Bako calls a decent game and doesn't shrink from collisions at the plate.

[Homer Bailey]

Bako strikes out every time.

[flyer85]

Bako has completed his transition back to a pumpkin

[Kc61]

Catchers can't play every day. And it's not like Ross is good enough to play 5 out of every 6. At least Bako calls a decent game and doesn't shrink from collisions at the plate.

Item number one for this off season is to acquire a solid lead catcher.

[jesusfan]

Catchers can't play every day. And it's not like Ross is good enough to play 5 out of every 6. At least Bako calls a decent game and doesn't shrink from collisions at the plate.

It would be different if Bako played once or twice a week... I take Ross anyday over Bako... not saying Ross is great, but he sure is better than Bako...

Personally, I'd like to sign pudge for two years, if the price is right...

[Screwball]

Watching this game, I get the feeling the season ended last night in the ninth inning. Well, we made it to late July this year. It's been worse.

Eh, tough to look like a good team against Peavy. But I know what ya mean. Last night really seemed to take the wind out of the Reds' (and the fans'?) sails.

Lil' Hairston grounds back to Cueto. 1 out.

Edgar Gonzalez also grounds back to Cueto. 2 out.

Brian [freaking] Giles due up.

[WVRedsFan]

Item number one for this off season is to acquire a solid lead catcher.
I keep hearing that we have our lead catcher in Ross. I don't believe it, but that's what I hear.

I say deep-6 all three and start over.

[Kc61]

It would be different if Bako played once or twice a week... I take Ross anyday over Bako... not saying Ross is great, but he sure is better than Bako...

Personally, I'd like to sign pudge for two years, if the price is right...

Ross is a good platoon guy. Or maybe a back up who gets a fair amount of playing time. But the team, offensively and defensively, needs a lead catcher. There is nobody in the high minors who is going to be a starting catcher for this team so the guy has to come from outside.

[Stormy]

Giles has been giving Cueto fits, fouling off every nasty out pitch thrown to him... I'm not sure what more you can do than walk him.

95mph heat, 87mph slider down and in, 83mph change away... all fouled off. If not for Giles, Cueto would be cruising tonight, and would have thrown far fewer pitches.

[Screwball]

Cueto throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Giles (on the black no less), and he keeps managing to stay alive.

Giles eventually walks. He's been on base all 3 times up. He's good.

2 out with Adrian Gonzalez now up.

[jesusfan]

In the offseason I offer pudge 2 years 15 million and see if he bites... That is if someone else doesn't pay high dollar for him.. It's hard to say what the market for him will be... Pudge, C.C, and resign Dunn is my wish list, if not going to resign Dunn you have to get Milton Bradley or Burrell..

[VR]

Well...

After last night's performance by Ross and Bako reverting back to his norm, it just might be that it doesn't matter who catches. Ross has been the best so far, but he's due for his annual swoon.

Getting a great performance out of Homer? His double? Two walks?

Not sure what was so brutal about last night's performance.

[Screwball]

Cueto seems to be laboring. He walks A-Gon.

Runners on 1st and 2nd now with the 2 out. Reds killer Kouzmanoff now up.

[WVRedsFan]

In the offseason I offer pudge 2 years 15 million and see if he bites... That is if someone else doesn't pay high dollar for him.. It's hard to say what the market for him will be... Pudge, C.C, and resign Dunn is my wish list, if not going to resign Dunn you have to get Milton Bradley or Burrell..Great wish list, but I don't think you'll see "Pudge" or CC in a Reds uniform next--and maybe not even Dunn

[jesusfan]

Getting a great performance out of Homer? His double? Two walks?

Not sure what was so brutal about last night's performance.

Everyone keeps referencing to the base-running blunder... People just pick guys who they want to hate... Ross has been great the last 3 weeks... I know he's not going to be a .280-.300 hitter, but how many teams have catchers that are...

[Kc61]

In the offseason I offer pudge 2 years 15 million and see if he bites... That is if someone else doesn't pay high dollar for him.. It's hard to say what the market for him will be... Pudge, C.C, and resign Dunn is my wish list, if not going to resign Dunn you have to get Milton Bradley or Burrell..

That's one way to go.

Reds would also need a very good fourth outfielder because, without Griffey, you have Hairston starting and he is injury prone. So they can't just go with Dunn, Hairston and Bruce. They need a good fourth.

That also leaves the left side of the infield. Not sure shortstop is resolved. Quite sure EE will stay at third next year, hope he cuts down on the errors.

There really is quite a bit to do with this team.

[WVRedsFan]

Getting a great performance out of Homer? His double? Two walks?

Not sure what was so brutal about last night's performance.

Think hard...I think you might remember :).

I understand him not playing tonight, Peavy is tough.

[Stormy]

Good work to get out of that inning by the kid. Cueto is such a stud in the making.

[Screwball]

Great slider down and away gets Kouz to go down swinging. 7 Ks for Cueto through 5. Unfortunately, he's at 99 pitches thrown. My guess is Dusty still sends him back out.

3-0 Padres in the middle of 5.

[CTA513]

Cueto should be done after this inning.

[lollipopcurve]

Cueto should be pulled. 100 pitches.

Then again, there's no long man and a few guys in the pen are burnt.

[Kc61]

Good work to get out of that inning by the kid. Cueto is such a stud in the making.

Every game he makes one or two critical mistakes. That's really what he needs to overcome.

Bruce, Volquez and Cueto are three very valuable people for the Reds.

[lollipopcurve]

Of course, Dusty is running him out there.

[CTA513]

It looks like Cueto will be pitching the 6th.

[jesusfan]

That's one way to go.

Reds would also need a very good fourth outfielder because, without Griffey, you have Hairston starting and he is injury prone. So they can't just go with Dunn, Hairston and Bruce. They need a good fourth.

That also leaves the left side of the infield. Not sure shortstop is resolved. Quite sure EE will stay at third next year, hope he cuts down on the errors.

There really is quite a bit to do with this team.

Pudge would solve many problems in my opinion, not only with the bat but in the heads of the young pitchers too... Personally, I think this line-up would be a thing of beauty.. I know Pudge isn't your ideal 4 hitter, but he will make contact, hit in the clutch and provide protection for Bruce and/or Dunn... I'd love this.... Add C.C to the rotation... C.C, Volquez, Harang, Cueto, Bailey!

1. Hairston-CF
2. Keppinger-SS
3. Bruce-RF
4. Pudge-C
5. Dunn-LF
6. Phillips-2nd
7. Votto- 1st
8. Encarnacion-3rd
9. Pitcher

[Kc61]

Dusty must save the bullpen tonight. And he doesn't want to use the back of the bullpen too early, he's trying to compete in the game.

So one more inning for Cueto is ok here. But that's all.

[Screwball]

Cueto with a swinging bunt. Carlins throws a rocket down to first to get Cueto by about half a step. Nice play by the Padres catcher there.

1 out, nobody on here in the 5th. Bruce up. He pops out to 3rd. 2 down.

Kepp up.

[jesusfan]

wow... I almost missed that inning... Had to take a breath and blink... 3-0 after 5...

[Screwball]

Reds with a quick bottom of the 5th. They go down 1-2-3 in about 2 pitches, or something like that.

Still 3-0 Papas.

ETA: Peavy at 76 ptiches through 5. With his stuff tonight and the way this team hates to take pitches, a CG isn't out of the question.

[lollipopcurve]

So Peavy gets a 5 pitch inning and Cueto is right back out on the mound after running hard to first, on the heels of a pretty long 5th.

This staff is poorly managed.

[Stormy]

Man, wish our "offense" could have given Cueto more than a 3 minute rest, coming out of that laborious inning. Wonder how far Dusty will allow him to go this inning?

[lollipopcurve]

So one more inning for Cueto is ok here. But that's all.

Disagree. He could be at 115 before he knows it, and that's too many. Let Coffey and Majewski finish the game.

[Kc61]

Pudge would solve many problems in my opinion, not only with the bat but in the heads of the young pitchers too... Personally, I think this line-up would be a thing of beauty.. I know Pudge isn't your ideal 4 hitter, but he will make contact, hit in the clutch and provide protection for Bruce and/or Dunn... I'd love this.... Add C.C to the rotation... C.C, Volquez, Harang, Cueto, Bailey!

1. Hairston-CF
2. Keppinger-SS
3. Bruce-RF
4. Pudge-C
5. Dunn-LF
6. Phillips-2nd
7. Votto- 1st
8. Encarnacion-3rd
9. Pitcher

Somehow, I don't think Keppinger will be at short next year. Maybe EE bats second and Gonzalez hits eighth at short. Or someone new at short. Kepp can hit, but the Reds may want more range there to help the pitching out.

We'll see.

What I want to see soon is the following four righties in the pen -- Cordero, Burton, Roenicke and Zach Stewart (high pick this year, moving up quickly). Four hard throwing righties. With Bray and another good lefty flame thrower.

[HokieRed]

Why run Cueto out there? We're not going to beat Peavy anyway. Put in Coffey and Majewski and let em pitch.

[Screwball]

Cueto strikes out Headley, but the ball gets by Bako so Headley is safe at first. 8 Ks for Cueto, but the leadoff runner is on 1st.

Greene now due up.

[WVRedsFan]

Man, wish our "offense" could have given Cueto more than a 3 minute rest, coming out of that laborious inning. Wonder how far Dusty will allow him to go this inning?

This is what I call the danger zone for Cueto. It's a pretty good pitching performance that might turn into a disaster if he goes much farther.

Time to see what Coffey has.

BTW, want to talk about catching now. K and on first. Wow.

[Homer Bailey]

It amazes me how much Bailey looks like Christian Bale

http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/christian-bale-posters.jpg

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/2005/04/18/mTKFAmGl.jpg

[jesusfan]

Somehow, I don't think Keppinger will be at short next year. Maybe EE bats second and Gonzalez hits eighth at short. Or someone new at short. Kepp can hit, but the Reds may want more range there to help the pitching out.

We'll see.

What I want to see soon is the following four righties in the pen -- Cordero, Burton, Roenicke and Zach Stewart (high pick this year, moving up quickly). Four hard throwing righties. With Bray and another good lefty flame thrower.

I agree.. .I just really really want the reds to go after Pudge and C.C... Re-sign Dunn or not, those are the two I really want... we will need a few more outfielders though..

[Screwball]

9th K by Cueto on Greene on another slider (shocking, I know). 1 out, runner on 1st.

Carlin now up.

[jesusfan]

113 pitches and counting...

[HumnHilghtFreel]

113 pitches and counting...

Yeah, I know Dusty wants to rest the bullpen... but this isn't exactly the best way to do it

[WVRedsFan]

we will need a few more outfielders though..

My biggest fear is that they'll let Dunn and Griffey walk, and we'll be left with Bruce, Hopper, and Freel in the outfield next year. Yes, we need a power hitting outfielder to replace those two, but they come at a premium that might make Dunn look cheap.

[Kc61]

113 pitches and counting...

It's ok. The pen is gassed, Cueto isn't laboring out there.

I just have a problem with babying these starting pitchers too much. They need to be trained to go seven or eight innings.

Majewski is warming, if this inning goes any longer he'll get the call.

Two outs, pitcher up. Last batter for Cueto whatever happens.

[Screwball]

Cueto induces a full-count groundout from Carlin. 2 outs, runner on 2nd.

Cueto should be out of the inning, but he'll now face Peavy.

[jesusfan]

Cueto at 118 pitches... This HAS to be his last batter...!!!

[jesusfan]

It's ok. The pen is gassed, Cueto isn't laboring out there.

I just have a problem with babying these starting pitchers too much. They need to be trained to go seven or eight innings.

Majewski is warming, if this inning goes much longer he'll get the call.

Two outs, pitcher up. Last batter for Cueto whatever happens.

I agree... I was just telling the number of pitches... I know that gets alot of people worked up around here... 120 pitches is a bunch though...

[jesusfan]

Cueto with his 10th K! 3-0 mid 6... C'mon Offense!

[WVRedsFan]

Good job by Cueto. Quality start. Only our putrid offense against a good pitcher ruins it.

[Screwball]

Peavy with an 0-2 liner down the left field line but it mercifully goes foul.

Cueto then gets him to strikeout on a... wait for it... slider down and away. 10 Ks for Cueto against just 1 BB. I don't care about the 3 earned runs. Great, great pitching by the young phenom tonight.

ETA: 120 pitches for Johnny tonight.

[lollipopcurve]

They need to be trained to go seven or eight innings.

They need to be trained to be pitch efficient, allowing them to go 7-8 without hitting 130 pitches.

[lollipopcurve]

120 pitches is a bunch though..

Yep.

Cueto was leading off the bottom of the fifth -- perfect spot for a pinch hitter in a game you trail by 3.

[WVRedsFan]

Our young pitchers get squeezed a lot, adding to those pitch counts.

[Screwball]

They need to be trained to be pitch efficient, allowing them to go 7-8 without hitting 130 pitches.

Agreed. IMO, pitch count is far more important than innings pitched.

[Kc61]

Reds with an off day Thursday. Unless Fogg really got hurt tonight, Cueto will get an extra rest day next time through.

Cueto showed something there. Pitching with 100 pitches his stuff seemed better, not worse. He pitched very well tonight, just needs to avoid those occasional lapses.

Very glad to see Cueto tonight because he was the only reason to tune in.

[jesusfan]

Griffey walks... c'mon BP!

[WVRedsFan]

Got in late. Did anyone on either broadcast mention how Fogg was? It seems only Fay and C. Trent know anything about it.

[Screwball]

Leading off the bottom of the 6th, Griff works the count full and then walks.

For the 3rd time tonight, the Reds have the leadoff batter on base. Let's see what they can do with it now.

[Screwball]

Phillips with a solid single up the middle into CF.

Runners on 1st and 2nd and nobody out with Dunn now up.

[jesusfan]

Phillips kills it up the middle... 1st and 2nd with Dunn up... shew... can we make something happen w/o ruining our chances tonight?

[lollipopcurve]

Unless Fogg really got hurt tonight, Cueto will get an extra rest day next time through.

And if he did get hurt and has to miss the start, they should bring someone up to take his place, so others can take advantage of the off day.

[jesusfan]

Dunn didn't like that shin burner....

[Screwball]

Terrible called strike on 1-0 to Dunn there.

[jesusfan]

Dunn grounds into a 4-6 FC... weak attempt to break up the DP by Phillips.. wow lol

[jesusfan]

c'mon Javy! Would love Votto here...

[Screwball]

Dunn hits a tailor made DP ball to 2nd, but he's able to somehow beat it out. Runners on 1st and 3rd now with 1 out.

Valentin digs in.

[jesusfan]

what in the world? I'm not even saying anything... what... yes that run means something Welsh!

[Screwball]

Valentin flies out to shallow center, unable to score Griffey.

EE up with 2 out and runners on the corners. Need a base hit now to score.

[WVRedsFan]

Brandon jogged to first on his single and slides five feet in front of the bag.

Edwin now up -- come on!

[jesusfan]

Brandon jogged to first on his single and slides five feet in front of the bag.

Edwin now up -- come on!

Yea... and Welsh said it was great base running to break up the double play... do they even watch the game???

[lollipopcurve]

Edwin down 0-2

sliders coming

[jesusfan]

Edwin ducks away from that one...

[jesusfan]

Edwin hanging tough...

[jesusfan]

3-2 coming...

[Homer Bailey]

Pinch hit for Bako please. Ugh.

[jesusfan]

Edwin walks... great ab... c'mon now pinch hit Votto for Bako!!!

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Great AB there by Edwin

[flyer85]

must PH for Bako

[jesusfan]

YES! Thank you Dusty Baker... you listened to me...

[WVRedsFan]

Bako up to K for the third time. No! Here comes Votto!

[RedsManRick]

Great AB by EE. Now up to 8 BB to just 5 K in the month of July. Some kind of hot.

[Screwball]

If nothing else, Edwin's battling. 9 pitches this AB.

Great job by EE to work the walk and to load the bases. However, Dusty inexplicably leaves Bako in to hit with 2 out.

[jesusfan]

Even if Votto doesn't do anything right here at least Baker has made the right move... what, NO WAY!!! BAKO WILL HIT!!!! OKAY... IM DONE!

[RedsManRick]

You have to be kidding me. Letting Bako hit and putting Votto on deck. There are two outs Dusty! Bako is horrible and everybody knows it but Dusty Baker. God forbid you actually try and plate the runs now and worry about late game subs later. Heck, you can move Javy behind the plate and don't have to burn a guy.

[Homer Bailey]

YES! Thank you Dusty Baker... you listened to me...

No he didnt. Unreal.

[Kc61]

Peavy, knowing that Bako is on deck, walks EE to load the bases with no concern.

[flyer85]

Dusty is a freaking ____________

[Matt700wlw]

Votto to hit

[WVRedsFan]

NO, it's Bako. We're doomed.

[dougdirt]

What the heck just happened?!

[jesusfan]

Cya guys!

[Homer Bailey]

Goin out on a limb. K swinging here.

[jesusfan]

I can't stand Dusty Baker any longer!

[jesusfan]

Goin out on a limb. K swinging here.

K looking...

[flyer85]

The man is so dumb it's like he's not even trying ... even GG is questioning him

[jesusfan]

That could've been called an out if that hit Bako in play.. .I don't know if it did though...

[Matt700wlw]

Votto's on deck then

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Dusty knew that would happen.

[WVRedsFan]

Bako delivers

[jesusfan]

wow... still not the right move... I don't care if we did score 2...

[Homer Bailey]

Wow.

[RedsManRick]

And Bako lets Dusty Baker off the hook. I'll take it!

[Screwball]

:laugh:

Bako singles to score 2.

3-2 Pads with runners on the corners and Votto now coming up. Unreal.

[dougdirt]

How many times is Dusty going to be rewarded for stupidity?

[jesusfan]

where was the 2nd basemen at???

[flyer85]

sometimes stupidity is rewarded

[jesusfan]

That just gives Baker the confidence to do that next time....

[WVRedsFan]

3-3. Now if Votto can keep it going...

If...

[joshnky]

Now Votto will K proving the genius of Dusty Baker.

[jesusfan]

YES!!!! Votto ties it up... we are getting breaks????

[RedsManRick]

Votto with a check swing single to LF! Tie ball game folks! Cueto is a happy camper.

DIPS in action right there.

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Awesome mistake single by Votto! Cueto is off the hook for the loss

[lollipopcurve]

biggest AB in this inning was EdE's

[jesusfan]

Cueto off the hook... let's win it for him!

[Kc61]

Dusty, having carefully reviewed the situation with keen analysis, leaves Bako up to get a two run single.

Just shows you how these decisions are usually pretty meaningless. Anything can happen.

And now Votto, whom Dusty uses as a pinch hitter, ties the game.

[jesusfan]

biggest AB in this inning was EdE's

Agree completely.. c'mon BRUCE!

[Screwball]

Votto with a check swing RBI single!

3-3 game. I think those last two hits just made up for those lucky bloop singles the Pads had in the 3rd against Cueto.

[WVRedsFan]

You just never know what's going to happen in a baseball game, now do you?

[Falls City Beer]

Glad they got the kid off the hook.

[jesusfan]

Why does anyone throw Bruce a fastball..

[lollipopcurve]

Now let's see if Baker will actually go Majewski-Coffey.

[jesusfan]

Bruce couldn't hit my grandmothers curve ball...

[WVRedsFan]

Man, does Bruce look bad sometimes. Brutal

[jesusfan]

Wonder who's coming in... I go with Majic man...

[Kc61]

Why does anyone throw Bruce a fastball..

Bruce is a great young hitter, except when the pitch is in the dirt.

[Screwball]

Bruce Ks on some nasty breaking stuff down in the dirt.

Reds score 3 though to tie the game at 3. Nice to see some backbone.

[RedsManRick]

Dusty, having carefully reviewed the situation with keen analysis, leaves Bako up to get a two run single.

Just shows you how these decisions are usually pretty meaningless. Anything can happen.

And now Votto, whom Dusty uses as a pinch hitter, ties the game.

Getting a deuce when you hit on 19 doesn't mean it's a toss up and the odds don't matter. Baker made a bad choice and got a good result. It happens sometimes.

[lollipopcurve]

Why does anyone throw Bruce a fastball..

Agreed. His % of swings and misses on secondary stuff is alarming.

[flyer85]

Just shows you how these decisions are usually pretty meaningless. Anything can happen.Yep, those guys betting snake eyes all the tiime leave the casino with a bunch of money

[RedsManRick]

Bruce really does not handle that low, inside breaking ball well at all. He had a pitch to hit that AB and just missed it.

[flyer85]

Bruce really does not handle that low, inside breaking ball well at all. He had a pitch to hit that AB and just missed it.
and then swung at two pitches that bounced in the dirt

[Screwball]

Getting a deuce when you hit on 19 doesn't mean it's a toss up and the odds don't matter.

Nah, that was hitting on 21, but being so drunk that the dealer couldn't understand you and moving on to the next player.

[WVRedsFan]

Agreed. His % of swings and misses on secondary stuff is alarming.Is that because he's a "guess" hitter? OR does it go deeper?

[Kc61]

Getting a deuce when you hit on 19 doesn't mean it's a toss up. Baker made a bad choice and got a good result. It happens sometimes.

Dusty wanted the veteran rather than the kid in that spot. There's some virtue in that, even if Bako is not as good a hitter.

I don't see a reason to call out the manager on every decision. He's entitled to play a hunch once in awhile.

[jesusfan]

c'mon affy...

[HumnHilghtFreel]

Bruce really does not handle that low, inside breaking ball well at all. He had a pitch to hit that AB and just missed it.

Low outside, either really. I've seen him chase a lot of bad pitches low and away

[Falls City Beer]

Bruce DID have two hits off Peavy's best pitch, however: his fastball.

[jesusfan]

nice play...

[Screwball]

Great play by EE on a slow chopper to get the speedy Hairston at 1st.

1 down, with E. Gonzalez now up.

BTW, Affeldt is pitching.

[jesusfan]

single to right... that guy is a nice young player...

[lollipopcurve]

S. Hairston's a good ballplayer. If I'm the Reds, I hold onto Jerry and sign his bro ASAP.

[jesusfan]

I feel much better with Affeldt against Giles... watch him go deep...

[jesusfan]

S. Hairston's a good ballplayer. If I'm the Reds, I hold onto Jerry and sign his bro ASAP.

Same thing I said last night... some disagreed, but I take two bench, role players like those two any season...

[Falls City Beer]

Have I ever mentioned how much I dislike Affeldt?

[Screwball]

Gonzalez singles into RF.

Giles will face Affeldt with 1 down and a runner on 1st.

[jesusfan]

Have I ever mentioned how much I dislike Affeldt?

And Bray, And Weathers, And Cordero... anyone i'm missing...?

[Screwball]

FSN just had Affeldt clipping the black on a 95 mph fastball. Gameday had him at 96.

WP allows Gonzalez to get to 2nd. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

Affeldt is a left handed Matt Belisle.. Great stuff, no head...

[jesusfan]

that stinks.... wild pitch...

[jesusfan]

Nice K! 2 down

[Screwball]

Affeldt with a great curveball to get Giles looking. 2 down with Gonzalez still at 2nd.

Adrian Gonzalez steps in.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Sit down, Giles. Ks looking. Affeldt's wild pitch went about 52 feet after it left his hand. Almost hit the grass in front of the plate.

[lollipopcurve]

Is that because he's a "guess" hitter? OR does it go deeper?

I don't know. The fact that he's not even fouling off a lot of the secondary stuff suggests he's either not recognizing pitches soon enough or he's too anxious.

[Kc61]

Affeldt is a left handed Matt Belisle.. Great stuff, no head...

Affeldt has big time stuff, not Belisle stuff. If he had better control he would be a star.

[Falls City Beer]

And Bray, And Weathers, And Cordero... anyone i'm missing...?

I greatly respect Weathers; he was a very good reliever for a long time. And he still pitches intelligently.

The others suck too, though. Good point.

[jesusfan]

nice pitch... c'mon get this guy!

[Matt700wlw]

Is that because he's a "guess" hitter? OR does it go deeper?

At this point, he's probably doing some guessing as he continues to figure out ML pitching

[jesusfan]

Nice job Affeldt!

[MasonBuzz3]

Affeldt has big time stuff, not Belisle stuff. If he had better control he would be a star.

Affeldt has better stuff than most closers, IMO as well

[Kc61]

That is why you don't hit lefties back to back in the middle of the order. Nice work by Affeldt against the Padres' two best hitters.

[Screwball]

Affeldt with a solid 7th: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 K, 0 BB, 3.83 ERA.

Yeah, I can definitely see why some hate him.

[lollipopcurve]

Nice job by Affeldt.

So are we back to Weathers-Cordero in 8-9? Those guys are fried, but does it matter? Majewski warmed up the entire 6th inning -- for what?

[Screwball]

That is why you don't hit lefties back to back in the middle of the order. Nice work by Affeldt against the Padres' two best hitters.

If they weren't back to back, the Reds are probably up 3-2 right now.

[Kc61]

Affeldt with a solid 7th: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 K, 0 BB, 3.83 ERA.

Yeah, I can definitely see why some hate him.

His WHIP is over 1.4, too high for a reliever. Too bad because Affeldt has a golden arm.

[jesusfan]

I personally like a Affeldt, Bray, Lincoln, Weathers (maybe), Roenicke, Herrera, Cordero bullpen for next season... not a lot of change... spend the dough on C.C and the offense!

[jesusfan]

His WHIP is over 1.4, too high for a reliever. Too bad because Affeldt has a golden arm.

That is due to his high walk rates... get some control and watch out!

[lollipopcurve]

Bud Black pulls Peavy after 108 in a tie game.

Take note, Dusty.

[jesusfan]

Kepp lines softly to 1st...

[jesusfan]

Bud Black pulls Peavy after 108 in a tie game.

Take note, Dusty.

He sees that 24 games under .500 is going no where...

[Falls City Beer]

Mike Adams looks like Humpty Hump.

[Screwball]

His WHIP is over 1.4, too high for a reliever. Too bad because Affeldt has a golden arm.

Great K/9 (9.50), solid K/BB (2.68). If his HR/FB ever normalizes (tough considering half his games are in GABP), he'd be a very good guy to bring in during high leverage stuations (like tonight against the Pads' best hitters).

[jesusfan]

Griff singles.... Griffey looking a bit slimmer?? or is it just me...

[jesusfan]

Here we go BP!

[Kc61]

I personally like a Affeldt, Bray, Lincoln, Weathers, Roenicke, Herrera, Cordero bullpen for next season... not a lot of change... spend the dough on C.C and the offense!

The lefty reliever Pelland at AAA is getting it together. Hard thrower, Ks guys, just walks too many. I might opt for him rather than Herrera.

We'll see. I don't think Weathers will be back.

[PuffyPig]

I personally like a Affeldt, Bray, Lincoln, Weathers (maybe), Roenicke, Herrera, Cordero bullpen for next season... not a lot of change... spend the dough on C.C and the offense!


I'd say you have likely forgotten our best releiver......

[Screwball]

Kepp lines softly to 1st.

Griff singles into RF.

Phillips up with 1 out and a runner on 1st.

[flyer85]

phillips swings at a 2-0 pitch a foot outside

[jesusfan]

I'd say you have likely forgotten our best releiver......

my bad... Burton duh!