Reds vs Brewers 9/10/08 (early game today)

[Red in Chicago]

Cincinnati
J. Hairston Jr. cf
J. Keppinger ss
J. Votto 1b
E. Encarnacion 3b
J. Bruce rf
J. Cabrera lf
A. Phillips 2b
R. Hanigan c
B. Arroyo p

Milwaukee
R. Durham 2b
J.J. Hardy ss
R. Braun lf
P. Fielder 1b
G. Kapler rf
M. Cameron cf
C. Counsell 3b
J. Kendall c
C. Sabathia p

[BRM]

Now that's a solid lineup.

[reds44]

Holy crap. Our cleanup hitter actually belongs batting cleanup.

[klw]

From the Gameday preview


MILWAUKEE -- Reds manager Dusty Baker has seven extra players at his disposal and a tightrope to walk when determining how he'll use those September callups.
Of Cincinnati's final 17 games, 16 are against teams that have a fighting chance at making the playoffs. That might prevent Baker from fielding a lineup of fresh faces with little big league experience.

"I'll use them in spots and try to get them a start if I can," Baker said. "But for the integrity of the races and the team, you have to go with your best lineup. Everyone we're playing still has a chance for something. I'll probably play them a lot more than I played when I came up. Some will pinch-hit. Some will pinch-run. We'll see what they can do in the clutch. It depends. I told them all to be ready to play."

Infielders Paul Janish, Danny Richar, Adam Rosales and pitchers Danny Herrera, Jon Adkins, Adam Pettyjohn and Josh Roenicke were officially called up Tuesday from Triple-A Louisville. Adkins faced two batters in the 10th inning on Tuesday and was the winner in a 5-4 victory in 11 innings over Milwaukee.

Janish played 31 games for the Reds during his earlier callup. Rosales and Herrera got brief big league exposure in their previous promotions. Richar, acquired in the Ken Griffey Jr. trade, played 57 games for the White Sox last season. Adkins and Pettyjohn are 31-year-old veterans. Only Roenicke has never been in the Majors before.

"This is an invaluable experience," Baker said of the younger September callups. "Hopefully in the near future, we'll be in the situation on the other side of the coin. You have to feel excitement but control adrenaline and have the coolness of mind to handle different situations and pressures. People say, 'I know I can do it,' but until you're in that situation, you just don't know."


Pitching matchup
CIN: RHP Bronson Arroyo (14-10, 4.84 ERA)
In his last start on Friday, Arroyo struck out the first three Cubs he faced on 10 pitches before getting a big lead and cruising thereafter for his 14th win of the season. The 31-year-old right-hander went 6 1/3 innings and gave up just one run on four hits, striking out six, in the Reds' big win over the Cubs. A high pitch count drove Arroyo out early, as he threw a season-high 122 pitches before being chased midway through the seventh inning. The right-hander has faced the Brewers twice this season, going 1-1 with a 3.86 ERA in 11 2/3 innings. Lifetime, Arroyo is 7-4 with a 3.62 ERA in 14 appearances (11 starts) against Milwaukee.

MIL: LHP CC Sabathia (15-8, 2.77 ERA)
Sabathia did his part on Friday against the Padres, but the Brewers couldn't close the deal in time for his 10th National League win. Sabathia allowed a leadoff baserunner in five of his seven innings, but he limited the Padres to one run on five hits and went 2-for-3 at the plate, including a go-ahead single. The lead got away from reliever Eric Gagne, but the Brewers rallied to improve to 11-1 in Sabathia's starts.

Tidbits
Baker said that Chris Dickerson's sore left ankle hadn't improved enough for him to start. Dickerson missed his third straight start on Tuesday and wasn't expected to be in Wednesday's lineup. "He's still sore, and I didn't want to take a chance on him rushing that," Baker said. "Plus with CC, he won't play [Wednesday] and then we have an off-day. So that gives him a good three or four days to get this thing better. We'll need him for Arizona and [Brandon] Webb on Friday. I'll need all the left-handed hitters I can get."

[reds44]

"I'll use them in spots and try to get them a start if I can," Baker said. "But for the integrity of the races and the team, you have to go with your best lineup. Everyone we're playing still has a chance for something. I'll probably play them a lot more than I played when I came up. Some will pinch-hit. Some will pinch-run. We'll see what they can do in the clutch. It depends. I told them all to be ready to play."

Nothing like your manager saying, "Jeff Keppinger, Jolbert Cabrera, Andy Phillips, and Corey Patterson are better than you."

[OnBaseMachine]

Please Walt, please, please, please bring in your own manager during the offseason. Please.

[Matt700wlw]

Don't tell Dusty, but he forgot to start Patterson ;)

[BRM]

Hairston's fouling off a lot of pitches. At least he's making C.C. work.

Just struck out swinging.

[RichRed]

Holy crap. Our cleanup hitter actually belongs batting cleanup.

Took a BP injury to make it happen.

[OnBaseMachine]

The Reds go in order but forced Sabathia throw 18 pitches.

[OnBaseMachine]

Durham walks on 3-2 but Hardy grounds into a doubleplay for the first two outs.

[OnBaseMachine]

Braun pops out to Votto. Scoreless after one inning.

[OnBaseMachine]

EdE K's and Bruce flies out to left. In addition to Sabathia's filthy stuff there are some nasty shadows the batters have to deal with.

Cabrera grounds out. Six up six down for CC.

[cumberlandreds]

Where's Castillo? He's only 6 for his last 7.

[OnBaseMachine]

Fielder flies out and Kapler K's. Two outs.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cameron pops out to Votto. Both teams are hitless through two innings.

[OnBaseMachine]

Phillips HBP, Hanigan FC, Arroyo FC, Hairston walks, Keppinger singles. Bases loaded with two outs for Votto.

[OnBaseMachine]

Today wouldn't have been a bad day to give Rosales a start at 1B against the tough lefty.

[BRM]

Where's Castillo? He's only 6 for his last 7.

He has to sit so Dusty can protect the integrity of the playoff races.

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto K's swinging on a 2-2 breaking ball down and away.

[BRM]

Votto K's swinging on a 2-2 breaking ball down and away.

Tough matchup for Joey today. I agree with your earlier post concerning Rosales. Today might have been a good day to play him at 1B and give Votto a rest.

[OnBaseMachine]

Arroyo walks Craig Counsell to begin the bottom of the third inning. There's nothing more frustrating than watching the pitcher walk a weak hitter.

[BRM]

Kendall flies out to RF. Counsell goes to third on the throwing error by Bruce.

[OnBaseMachine]

Kendall flies out to Bruce in shallow RF but he airmails the throw into the Brewers dugout as he attempted to nail Counsell at first base. Counsell advances to third base and scores on a Sabathia groundout. The Brewers have a run despite not having a hit. And now Durham singles.

[cumberlandreds]

Kendall flies out to RF. Counsell goes to third on the throwing error by Bruce.

10 errors so far this season by Bruce per Marty. That is not good.

[BRM]

Counsell scores on Sabathia's RBI groundout.

[BRM]

Kendall flies out to Bruce in shallow RF but he airmails the throw into the Brewers dugout as he attempted to nail Counsell at first base. Counsell advances to third base and scores on a Sabathia groundout. The Brewers have a run despite not having a hit. And now Durham singles.

Thanks for the details. Gameday just said "throwing error".

[OnBaseMachine]

Hardy grounds out. That should go as an unearned run.

[OnBaseMachine]

10 errors so far this season by Bruce per Marty. That is not good.

He's made all the tough plays and messes up some of the easier ones. He'll be fine IMO.

[BRM]

He's made all the tough plays and messes up some of the easier ones. He'll be fine IMO.

I've heard similar comments about Encarnacion.

[OnBaseMachine]

EdE just misses a homerun foul, and then flies out. Bruce K's swinging on a 3-2 breaking ball.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cabrera grounds out on the first pitch.

1-0 Brewers after 3 1/2.

[Kc61]

If there was ever a game that the Reds were destined to lose, this is it. CC pitching, won the first two on the road in this series, Brewers in a playoff race.

I'd be pleasantly amazed if the Reds win.

[BRM]

Both pitchers are looking pretty good so far.

[Degenerate39]

Who is this announcer?

[BRM]

For those watching on TV, how does Andy Phillips look at 2B today? Has he made Dusty look like a genius?

[OnBaseMachine]

Who is this announcer?

Jim Kelch, the Louisville announcer. He's real good IMO.

[OnBaseMachine]

For those watching on TV, how does Andy Phillips look at 2B today? Has he made Dusty look like a genius?

He hasn't screwed up anything yet. ;)

Kapler singles past EdE with two outs.

[BRM]

He hasn't screwed up anything yet. ;)


Steadiness = Genius

[OnBaseMachine]

Cameron K's on a 2-2 fastball. 1-0 Brewers after four innings.

[BRM]

Time to put on my Rally Sweatbands.

[OnBaseMachine]

Time to put on my Rally Sweatbands.

Nice. Andy Phillips bloops a single to begin the 5th inning.

[BRM]

Nice. Andy Phillips bloops a single to begin the 5th inning.

Genius. Baker knew what he was doing when he started Andy.

[BRM]

Hanigan singles. Two on, none out.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hanigan singles.

[Chip R]

Time to put on my Rally Sweatbands.


Got your rally toothpick too?

[BRM]

Got your rally toothpick too?

I save that for the late innings.

[BRM]

Arroyo seems to be having trouble getting the bunt down.

[OnBaseMachine]

Two foul bunts and then Arroyo K's swinging.

[BRM]

Two foul bunts and then Arroyo K's swinging.

I blame your negativity.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hairston 3-run homerun! Holy cow. 3-1 Reds.

[BRM]

I need to try these Rally Sweatbands at home.

[cumberlandreds]

Time to put on my Rally Sweatbands.

I think we have found the key to the Reds success. :)

[Matt700wlw]

:jump:

[BRM]

Andy Phillips started this rally. Let us not forget.

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto K's again. Rough day for him. I was a little surprised to see him in there against Sabathia.

[BRM]

Joey is working towards the Golden Sombrero.

[BRM]

OBM still refuses to acknowledge the genius of starting Andy Phillips today...

[OnBaseMachine]

OBM still refuses to acknowledge the genius of starting Andy Phillips today...

:D

Counsell singles up the middle. That's a ball BP probably gets a glove on at least.

[BRM]

:D

Counsell singles up the middle. That's a ball BP probably gets a glove on at least.

Andy was probably shading him to pull.

[OnBaseMachine]

Kendall pops out.

[BRM]

Kendall pops out.

...to Phillips.

[OnBaseMachine]

Sabathia doubles to RF, Counsell holds at third. Good grief.

[Chip R]

I need to try these Rally Sweatbands at home.

:pimp:

[BRM]

It's my fault. I forgot to remove the sweatbands after the Reds half of the inning.

[BRM]

:pimp:

You know what I'm talking about. ;)

[OnBaseMachine]

Durham walks to load the bases with one out for Hardy.

[OnBaseMachine]

Edwin!!! Diving grab by EdE and turns it into a doubleplay! 3-1 Reds after five innings. What a great play.

[cumberlandreds]

BA just wanted to make the inning interesting.

[BRM]

Edwin!!! Diving grab by EdE and turns it into a doubleplay! 3-1 Reds after five innings. What a great play.

Again, no props for Phillips who made the turn at 2B.

[OnBaseMachine]

EdE doubles to begin the 6th inning.

[Chip R]

Again, no props for Phillips who made the turn at 2B.


Andy, stop posting during the game. :p:

[OnBaseMachine]

Bruce smokes a single to RF, EdE holds at third. Bruce has looked good against Sabathia today.

[BRM]

Andy, stop posting during the game. :p:

:D

Did Bruce really attempt to lay down a bunt on the first pitch?

[oneupper]

Bruce smokes a single to RF, EdE holds at third. Bruce has looked good against Sabathia today.

I wonder what the initial bunt attempt by Bruce was all about?

[BRM]

Gameday says there is an injury delay. Who got hurt?

[reds44]

Gameday says there is an injury delay. Who got hurt?
Gabe Ruth

[OnBaseMachine]

Gameday says there is an injury delay. Who got hurt?

Kapler.

For the second straight atbat Cabrera makes an out on the first pitch. Good grief. First and third with one out now.

[BRM]

Kapler.

For the second straight atbat Cabrera makes an out on the first pitch. Good grief. First and third with one out now.

You gotta swing the bat to be dangerous.

[OnBaseMachine]

Andy, stop posting during the game. :p:

Hmmm. Andy Phillips steps in to bat and BRM mysteriously disappears.

[OnBaseMachine]

BRM swings at a 2-2 pitch at his ankles and grounds to Counsell who throws EdE out at the plate.

[reds44]

So that's why Jolbert and Andy are in the lineup.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hanigan flies out. The Reds had runners on first and third with nobody out and failed to score. That will probably come back to bite them in the butt.

[BRM]

Andy tried to let Hanigan be the hero there. Ryan couldn't get it done.

[PuffyPig]

For the second straight atbat Cabrera makes an out on the first pitch. Good grief. First and third with one out now.



Lets forget the fact he picked a good pitch a smoked a line drive.

Good hitting is all about picking good pitches to hit, and hitting them hard.

Caberra did just that.

[Chip R]

I wonder what the initial bunt attempt by Bruce was all about?


Could be a fake to get the infield to come in a step.

[OnBaseMachine]

Lets forget the fact he picked a good pitch a smoked a line drive.

Good hitting is all about picking good pitches to hit, and hitting them hard.

Caberra did just that.

And the time before that he grounded out weakly on the first pitch. I don't mind good hitters swinging at the first pitch but not guys like Jolbert Cabrera.

[PuffyPig]

Hanigan flies out. The Reds had runners on first and third with nobody out and failed to score. That will probably come back to bite them in the butt.


The Brewers had the bases loaded and one out and failed to score. And didn't have the bottom of their lineup at bat.

The Reds had a line drive out and a ground ball in which the third baseman made a great throw. And then with two outs, another line drive out. They did at least get their bat on the ball but didn't get much luck. Sabathia ia a pretty tough pitcher to do that against.

Getting runners on base is no guarantee that they will score. Even for the opposition.

[OnBaseMachine]

Braun grounds out to Phillips.

[cumberlandreds]

Marty making his pitch for the Reds to keep A. Phillips next season.

[BRM]

Phillips looking silky smooth at 2B.

[reds44]

Marty making his pitch for the Reds to keep A. Phillips next season.
You are kidding right?

[OnBaseMachine]

Fielder K's.

[OnBaseMachine]

Marty making his pitch for the Reds to keep A. Phillips next season.

Why Marty?

[BRM]

Marty and Dusty are probably on the same page on that one.

[cumberlandreds]

You are kidding right?

I kid you not.

[PuffyPig]

And the time before that he grounded out weakly on the first pitch. I don't mind good hitters swinging at the first pitch but not guys like Jolbert Cabrera.


You tell Caberra to take first pitch strikes all the time, and he'll be an even worse hitter.

You can't make great pitchers throw first pitch balls just to make the hitter better. Surprisingly, great pitchers throw alot of first pitch strikes.

But I would never complain about a batter who hits a first pitch line drive.

[BRM]

I kid you not.

It's not surprising to me.

[reds44]

I kid you not.
Hairston is a guy we should keep around, not Phillips.

[PuffyPig]

Marty and Dusty are probably on the same page on that one.

That's not a book that will ever find it's way into my library.

[Chip R]

Why Marty?


Can't have too many scrappy vets on the team.

[BRM]

That's not a book that will ever find it's way into my library.

No worries. OBM owns enough of those books for all of us.

[OnBaseMachine]

Gwynn grounds out to EdE to end the 6th inning. 3-1 Reds after six.

Arroyo: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 101 pitches.

[OnBaseMachine]

No worries. OBM owns enough of those books for all of us.

I have three shelves full of them.

[BRM]

I have three shelves full of them.

Most are probably autographed by Brenneman I expect.

[reds44]

Arroyo hits for himself.

Oh that's a swell idea.

[OnBaseMachine]

Arroyo has thrown 101 pitches in six innings and is due to lead off the 7th inning but Dusty decides to keep him in the game.

And he reaches on a swinging bunt single.

[Chip R]

Can't say enough about the way Bronson's been pitching over the past couple months.

[reds44]

Arroyo hits for himself.

Oh that's a swell idea.
And he gets a bunt hit.

hahaha

[BRM]

Arroyo's BA is getting closer to Patterson's now.

[reds44]

Gotta love the Brewers announcers ripping the Reds.

[Chip R]

And he gets a bunt hit.

hahaha

http://img2.abload.de/img/simpsons_nelson_haha2uwr.jpg

[BRM]

Gotta love the Brewers announcers ripping the Reds.

Who are they ripping? FO or the team?

[oneupper]

And he reaches on a swinging bunt single.

No...that was a bunt bunt. Pretty one, too.

[reds44]

I love doing this to the Brewers. Only negative is that it helps the Cubs.

[reds44]

Who are they ripping? FO or the team?
Team. Talking about how everbody in this league has talent, but the true talent shows under pressure. Says the Reds are just playing sandlot ball.

[Chip R]

No...that was a bunt bunt. Pretty one, too.


I'd like to see pitchers do that more often.

[Kc61]

Arroyo has thrown 101 pitches in six innings and is due to lead off the 7th inning but Dusty decides to keep him in the game.

And he reaches on a swinging bunt single.

FWIW, I don't think Dusty views 100 pitches as a magic number of any kind. Seems to me, just from following all these games, that he views 120 as a magic number. Many of the Reds starters seem to get pulled after a good performance in the 120 range.

[BRM]

Team. Talking about how everbody in this league has talent, but the true talent shows under pressure. Says the Reds are just playing sandlot ball.

Wow. What does that say about their team's current play then?

[OnBaseMachine]

Hairston popped out. Kepp singles.

Votto K's again. He's now 0-for-9 with 7 K's in his career against Sabathia. Again, I can't believe Rosales didn't get a start at 1B today.

[BRM]

And there it is. Votto gets the Golden Sombrero today.

[BRM]

Again, I can't believe Rosales didn't get a start at 1B today.

Integrity, dude.

[OnBaseMachine]

EdE grounds out. 3-1 Reds after 6 1/2. I hope pushing Bronson back out there for another inning works better this time than it did last time.

[redsmetz]

I love doing this to the Brewers. Only negative is that it helps the Cubs.

Remember 1999 - we sink who we're playing now, the Cubs are no worry to us at the moment...

[BRM]

Cameron, Counsell and Kendall due up for Milwaukee.

[BRM]

Cameron walks to start the inning.

[BRM]

Kendall singles scoring Cameron, then advances to second on the throwing error by Kepp.

[OnBaseMachine]

Kendall singles scoring Cameron, then advances to second on the throwing error by Kepp.

That was an error all the way. Giving him a single is a joke. Jeff Keppinger is NOT a shortstop.

[OnBaseMachine]

Durham grounds out to end the inning but Keppinger gives them a run to make it 3-2 after seven innings.

Arroyo: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 4 BB, 3 K

[BRM]

Durham grounds out to ANDY PHILLIPS. Inning over, 3-2 Reds.

[Chip R]

That was an error all the way. Giving him a single is a joke. Jeff Keppinger is NOT a shortstop. He's awful.


I heard a little bit of the game last night and in the 8th inning, I think, EE had to make a diving stop on a ball and threw in the dirt. Marty and Jeff were both saying that they didn't think the Reds could win with him at 3rd. Of course I'm sure Keppinger got a free pass.

[Tony Cloninger]

And Votto needs to learn to get in front of the ball........I mean we already know Keppinger has no great range but that is one of the very, very rare times he has thrown a ball away like that.

Please don't tell OBM that 120 pitches is the magic marker for pitches....for Dusty.....he goes into a chicken little dance anytime a pitcher is at or near 100 pitches. ;)

[OnBaseMachine]

That's the second straight start Arroyo has thrown 120+ pitches.

[BRM]

Bronson is at 120 pitches exactly after 7 innings.

[BRM]

Guillermo Mota on to pitch for the Brewers.

Bruce, Cabrera and PHILLIPS due up for the Reds.

[OnBaseMachine]

The nasty shadows are back.

[OnBaseMachine]

Bruce works the count to 3-2 and K's swinging on a fastball.

[BRM]

Patterson pinch-hitting for Cabrera.

[OnBaseMachine]

Corey Patterson pinch hits for Cabrera. And he grounds out on the first pitch. LOL.

[BRM]

Corey Patterson pinch hits for Cabrera. And he grounds out on the first pitch. LOL.

Looked way outside on Gameday.

[BRM]

Richar hitting for PHILLIPS.

[Doc. Scott]

Richar hits for Phillips. Someone's not gonna like that one...

[OnBaseMachine]

Richar lines out on the first pitch.

[Doc. Scott]

Danny hacks at the first pitch and lines out to short. Hit it hard, at least.

[BRM]

Aggressive pinch-hitters. I'm sure Dusty is thrilled.

[Degenerate39]

Jim Kelch, the Louisville announcer. He's real good IMO.

Hes an improvement over George that's for sure.

[BRM]

Does Bronson come back out for the 8th?

[BRM]

OBM's favorite reliever, David Weathers, will pitch the 8th.

[Doc. Scott]

Three times in four days for a reliever again.

[RedsManRick]

Arroyo with 120 pitches today. Dusty has an enormous bullpen and just can't help but push starters to the limit every day. This is precisely what happened in Chicago. Come August & September, he leaned even more heavily on his horses. Of course, back then he had a playoff race as justification. Now he's using other people's playoff races...

The man just doesn't seem to have a sense of proportion when it comes to the value of a single game versus management of assets for the long term. It's not just stupid, it's selfish.

And who comes out to pitch the 8th? One of the fresh arms? Of course not.

[BRM]

And he promptly gives up a single to Hardy.

[Chip R]

Arroyo with 120 pitches today. Dusty has an enormous bullpen and just can't help but push starters to the limit every day. This is precisely what happened in Chicago. Come August & September, he leaned even more heavily on his horses. Of course, back then he had a playoff race as justification. Now he's using other people's playoff races...

The man just doesn't seem to have a sense of proportion when it comes to the value of a single game versus management of assets for the long term. It's not just stupid, it's selfish.


So, we need to put you down as anti-Dusty?

[OnBaseMachine]

Man I hope they don't bring Weathers back next season.

[BRM]

So, we need to put you down as anti-Dusty?

RMR stole my toothpick.

[BRM]

Braun walks.

[OnBaseMachine]

And now Weathers walks Braun. All these news pitchers and he decides to use Weathers.

[OnBaseMachine]

Bray made Fielder look foolish last night but Dusty decides to stay with Weathers.

[Doc. Scott]

And Prince promptly singles to load the bases with none out.

[BRM]

This is just beautiful. At least the integrity of the playoff races is intact.

[OnBaseMachine]

Fielder singles. Bases loaded and Weathers is still in there.

[Doc. Scott]

Another left-handed hitter, Tony Gwynn Jr., steps in. Bray would have been a better pick to face him, too.

[Chip R]

This is just beautiful. At least the integrity of the playoff races is intact.


That's right. Who cares if we lose as long as the integrity is intact.

[BRM]

You just can't trust a young pitcher in this type of situation....apparently.

[OnBaseMachine]

Gwynn ties the game by grounding into a doubleplay.

[Chip R]

You can just can't trust a young pitcher in this type of situation....apparently.


I would have liked to have seen Herrera against Prince and Gwynn.

[BRM]

I would have liked to have seen Herrera against Prince and Gwynn.

Herrera or Bray either one.

[Chip R]

Herrerra or Bray either one.


I'd like to see Prince tie himself in knots trying to hit Herrera's change.

[BRM]

Another run scores on Cameron's RBI single.

[OnBaseMachine]

4-3 Brewers on a Cameron RBI single.

Chalk up another loss to Dusty Baker and David Weathers, my two least favorite people in the Reds organization.;)

[BRM]

integrity, integrity, integrity, integrity

[Ltlabner]

Earlier in the game Marty started to say something about the clubhouse giving Harriston JR the cold sholder and ignoring him after the homer?

He (Marty) intrupted himself to call a play but then didn't go back to the comment.

Any ideas what this was about or did I not hear him correctly?

[Ltlabner]

4-3 Brewers on a Cameron RBI single.

Chalk up another loss to Dusty Baker and David Weathers, my two least favorite people in the Reds organization.;)

Integrity man.

It's all about the integrity.

[OnBaseMachine]

Patterson makes a nice play to end the inning. 4-3 Brewers after eight innings.

[BRM]

Integrity man.

It's all about the integrity.

This man gets it.

[BRM]

Patterson makes a nice play to end the inning. 4-3 Brewers after eight innings.

OBM complimented Patterson. :eek:

[OnBaseMachine]

Earlier in the game Marty started to say something about the clubhouse giving Harriston JR the cold sholder and ignoring him after the homer?

He (Marty) intrupted himself to call a play but then didn't go back to the comment.

Any ideas what this was about or did I not hear him correctly?

They were just messing with him. After his homerun everyone just sit on the bench and ignored him for a minute. That trick is usually pulled on rookies after hitting their first major league homerun.

[Ltlabner]

They were just messing with him. After his homerun everyone just sit on the bench and ignored him for a minute. That trick is usually pulled on rookies after hitting their first major league homerun.

Roger.

Figured it might be something like that (or that I completley miss-heard what Marty said). But for a second I thought there might be some major rift in the clubhouse.

Thanks.

[Chip R]

OBM complimented Patterson. :eek:


One of the signs of the Apocolypse?

[BRM]

Time to put the Rally Sweatbands back on.

[PuffyPig]

4-3 Brewers on a Cameron RBI single.

Chalk up another loss to Dusty Baker and David Weathers, my two least favorite people in the Reds organization.;)

Since June 1st, Weathers has an ERA of 2.47. It's not like he's Majewski out here.

[BRM]

Castillo hitting for Hanigan.

[BRM]

Castillo K's. Javy hitting for Weathers.

[BRM]

Javy just swung at a pitch that had to be 2 feet outside.

[Chip R]

Castillo K's. Javy hitting for Weathers.


Maybe he can go to 2nd on a double switch.

[BRM]

Javy K's swinging. Dickerson hitting for Hairston.

[OnBaseMachine]

What a frustrating loss. I hope Jocketty is watching. Please bring in your own manager Walt. Please. Save us from the suffering.

[OnBaseMachine]

David Weathers is 0-4 with a 8.75 ERA against the Brewers this year. You think we could get the Brewers to pay the rest of his contract for pushing them into the playoffs?

[_Sir_Charles_]

*sigh* Weathers. 'nuff said. *sigh*

[BRM]

Tough loss today. Bronson pitched a good game.

[RichRed]

What a frustrating loss. I hope Jocketty is watching. Please bring in your own manager Walt. Please. Save us from the suffering.

"These aren't my players, dude!"

[Kc61]

Weathers did not pitch in the first Milwaukee game. He was a reasonable choice for the 8th inning today.

[Chip R]

David Weathers is 0-4 with a 8.75 ERA against the Brewers this year. You think we could get the Brewers to pay the rest of his contract for pushing them into the playoffs?


*sigh* Weathers. 'nuff said. *sigh*


I don't blame Weathers. I blame Dusty for using him 3 days in a row. If you're a reliever, sometimes you get the bear and sometimes it gets you. Got a day off tomorrow and then down to Adam Dunn Land.

[BRM]

Weathers did not pitch in the first Milwaukee game. He was a reasonable choice for the 8th inning today.

I don't know that he was the reasonable choice to face Fielder and Gwynn though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I don't blame Weathers. I blame Dusty for using him 3 days in a row. If you're a reliever, sometimes you get the bear and sometimes it gets you. Got a day off tomorrow and then down to Adam Dunn Land.

Okay, YOU may not blame him, but I sure do. His numbers may look good this year and last year, but a lot of it is smoke & mirrors. He's extremely hittable. I've seen VERY few innings out of him the past 2 years where he didn't cause himself some trouble only to luck out of it. He didn't get his usual breaks today. He needs to be gone yesterday.

[RedsManRick]

Okay, YOU may not blame him, but I sure do. His numbers may look good this year and last year, but a lot of it is smoke & mirrors. He's extremely hittable. I've seen VERY few innings out of him the past 2 years where he didn't cause himself some trouble only to luck out of it. He didn't get his usual breaks today. He needs to be gone yesterday.

He is what he is. All he can do is go out there and give his best. It is Weathers' fault that he allowed 2 runs.

But is Dusty's fault that he overused Weathers and put him in to the game in a situation in which a allowing runs would cost us a game.

[WVRedsFan]

I didn't get to see the game today and only got to listen to a part of it, but what a disappointment. Up 3-1 in the 7th and leave the bases loaded? An error early on leads to a run (as they always seem to do with the Reds) and that's what beat us?

The team is playing better, but the flaws stick out. This should have been a sweep were it not for the error and some real shoddy pitching by Weathers. I might remind Dusty that there was no reason to leave Weathers in there to get his brains beat out. The reason he didn't use Bray is that he's not dependable if used too much. He pitched the last two days, so he was out. Same with Burton. All that was left was Weathers (who is supposed to have a rubber arm and he proved it today) and the kids. The kids will rot on the bench before he'll put them in a pressure situation.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

[oneupper]

Low expections + playing out the string = meh.

We stole a couple from the Brewers and now they returned the favor. The worst thing about this one, for me is not tagging CC for the loss.

In the end, the "Meat Loaf" philosophy for this series is fine with me.

[Kc61]

I don't blame Weathers. I blame Dusty for using him 3 days in a row. If you're a reliever, sometimes you get the bear and sometimes it gets you. Got a day off tomorrow and then down to Adam Dunn Land.

Weathers wasn't used three days in a row. That's why he pitched, I would assume, he didn't pitch in game one.

[Kc61]

I don't know that he was the reasonable choice to face Fielder and Gwynn though.

Agreed.

[gm]

I don't know that he was the reasonable choice to face Fielder and Gwynn though.

Weathers has that front-door, two-seamer that can freeze LHB. I didn't see the 8th inning, but it sounds like that K pitch wasn't working for Stormy today

Hindsight is 20/20, but giving Votto the day off and playing Phillips/Rosales at 1b/2b would've made sense...unless Dusty wanted Votto to get some ABs versus a tough LH like CC? (re: learning curve for Joey, not "playoff integrity")