5/19/09 Phillies @ Reds

[Screwball]

0-0 after 1. Cueto has 2 strikeouts.

[Reds Fanatic]

A quick recap of the first.

Rollins strikes out swinging.
Utley flies out to left.
Ibanez strikes out swinging.

Taveras strikes out swinging.
Hairston grounds out to short.
Phillips grounds out to 3rd.

[redsmetz]

Thanks for starting the thread, Screwball.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard homers to left center. 1-0 Phillies.

[GAC]

chat is open! :beerme:

[Screwball]

Phillies are gonna get their homers. The key is to limiting them to solo shots.

[Reds Fanatic]

Werth grounds out to short. Nice play by Gonzalez.

[Screwball]

Gonzalez made a nice play there to get Werth.

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino singles to right.

[redsmetz]

Can someone post the line ups?

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz singles to left. 1st and 2nd.

[Screwball]

These baseballs have eyes.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cin
Taveras CF
Hairston 3B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Hernandez C
Rosales 1B
McDonald LF
Gonzalez SS
Cueto P

Phi
Rollins SS
Utley 2B
Ibanez LF
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Victorino CF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Hamels P

[Reds Fanatic]

Can someone post the line ups?



Phillies (20 - 16)
Reds (20 - 17)

Lineup
Name AB R H RBI BB
1. J Rollins, SS 1 0 0 0 0
2. C Utley, 2B 1 0 0 0 0
3. R Ibanez, LF 1 0 0 0 0
4. R Howard, 1B 1 1 1 1 0
5. J Werth, RF 1 0 0 0 0
6. S Victorino, CF 1 0 1 0 0
7. P Feliz, 3B 0 0 0 0 0
8. C Ruiz, C 0 0 0 0 0
9. C Hamels, P 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 6 1 2 1 0
Lineup
Name AB R H RBI BB
1. W Taveras, CF 1 0 0 0 0
2. J Hairston Jr., 3B 1 0 0 0 0
3. B Phillips, 2B 1 0 0 0 0
4. J Bruce, RF 0 0 0 0 0
5. R Hernandez, C 0 0 0 0 0
6. A Rosales, 1B 0 0 0 0 0
7. D McDonald, LF 0 0 0 0 0
8. A Gonzalez, SS 0 0 0 0 0
9. J Cueto, P 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 3 0 0 0 0


Pitcher
Name IP H R ER BB K ERA*
C Hamels 1 0 0 0 0 1 4.88
Pitcher
Name IP H R ER BB K ERA*
J Cueto 1.1 2 1 0 0 2 1.88

[GAC]

Lineups

Reds

Taveras CF
Hairston 3B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Hernandez C
Rosales 1B
McDonald LF
Gonzalez SS
Cueto P

Phillies

Rollins SS
Utley 2B
Ibanez LF
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Victorino CF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Hamels P

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz flies out to left. 2 outs.

[RedsManRick]

Philadelphia
SS Rollins
2B Utley
LF Ibanez
1B Howard
RF Werth
CF Victorino
3B Feliz
CA Ruiz
P Hamels

Cincinnati
CF Taveras
3B Hairston
2B Phillips
RF Bruce
CA Hernandez
1B Rosales
LF McDonald
SS Gonzalez
P Cueto

[_Sir_Charles_]

Aaaaaaaahhhh! Lineup overkill! :O)

Ask and ye shall recieve.

[GAC]

I'm just thrilled to death that McDonald is in LF :rolleyes:

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamels grounds out to Cueto. 1-0 Phillies mid 2nd.

[Falls City Beer]

I don't imagine there's a tougher team in the NL to beat than the Phils' offense when Cole Hamels is on the mound. That offense combined with his pitching? Ugh. Cueto's been unreal so far, but he's clearly the underdog in this one.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice job by Johnny to escape further damage.

1-0 Phils middle of 2nd.

[Screwball]

Yeah, Reds have an uphill battle this game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jay will hit a lead off HR here.

[Reds Fanatic]

I'm just thrilled to death that McDonald is in LF :rolleyes:It is tough enough to face Hamels to do it with a weak lineup makes it even worse. They should have had Hairston in LF, Rosales at 3B, Hernandez at 1B, Hanigan at C and Janish at SS.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hamels is defintely getting better as the season moves on, but he's still giving up more flyballs and that's usually not a formula for success in GABP.

[Screwball]

Jay will hit a lead off HR here.

You're no VR. ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bruce strikes out swinging...way out in front.

[_Sir_Charles_]

You're no VR. ;)

LOL. Hey, it was worth a shot. :O)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Close but no cigar. Just barely foul. Durnit

[Reds Fanatic]

Great AB. Hernandez doubles off the wall in left.

[_Sir_Charles_]

He straightened THAT one out. Double off the wall for Ramon. Man, he absolutely MASHED that ball.

[nate]

Chat is open!

[Screwball]

Rosales was overmatched against Hamels. Mercy.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rosales strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Hamels. 2 outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

2 down. Rosales strikes out. He's a sucker for the high stuff. I thought he was going for that 3rd pitch up high.

[RedsManRick]

With no Votto and the rest of that lineup, Phillips is going to have a big night...

[_Sir_Charles_]

With all the McDonald bashing that's been going on lately, just watch...he'll have a great game.

[Reds Fanatic]

McDonald flies out to left. 1-0 Phillies after 2.

[GAC]

Good ol' George Grande.... "Darnell just missed that one" :lol:

You always say that George

[_Sir_Charles_]

Good ol' George Grande.... "Darnell just missed that one" :lol:

You always say that George

Thom just did the same thing. :beerme:

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins grounds out to 1st on the first pitch. 1 out.

[Screwball]

Good ol' George Grande.... "Darnell just missed that one" :lol:

You always say that George

Well he was right. If McDonald had gotten all of it, that ball probly would've made it all the way to the warning track. ;)

[redsmetz]

My son just texted me from OSU saying that Soto is in the dugout tonight.

[redsmetz]

All the way back to the track, Taveras brings it in. Whoo.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley flies out to the track in center. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ibanez grounds out to 1st. 1-0 Phillies mid 3rd.

[GAC]

My son just texted me from OSU saying that Soto is in the dugout tonight.

Great shot of Mario in the dugout. He was using his teeth trying to open up some sort of package.... and wasn't having much luck! :p:

[Superdude]

this umpire sucks! Utley and Ibanez should both have been down looking

[_Sir_Charles_]

this umpire sucks! Utley and Ibanez should both have been down looking

And it only took 3 innings. What was the over/under for the ump sucks in the 3rd inning? :O)

[Screwball]

Gonzalez needs to quit swinging at ball 4s.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez flies out to right. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cueto grounds out to Hamels. 2 outs.

[GAC]

A 1-2-3 3rd for Hamels

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras flies out to right. 1-0 Phillies after 3.

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Werth grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino grounds out to short. 1-0 Phillies mid 4th.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hairston grounds out to 3rd. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

[Screwball]

Whoever designed GABP didn't take into account this little thing called the sun.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Missed it by an at bat. :O) Bruce...GONE! :jump:

To be fair...I am in a different time zone...that's the reason for the delay.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce homers into the bullpen!! Tie game 1-1.

[GAC]

Bruce with #12

1-1 game

[mth123]

Bruce is good.

[Screwball]

Bruce looked like he hit that out with 1 hand. Dude has all kinds of power.

[GAC]

sure would be nice to have some guys on base when he hits those.

I wonder how many solo shots he has this year?

[mth123]

sure would be nice to have some guys on base when he hits those.

I wonder how many solo shots he has this year?

Where have I heard this before? Next Marty will be blaming it on Jay.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hernandez looking good tonight at the plate. 2 for 2 with a single now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another great AB by Hernandez. Hernandez singles to left.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rosales hit it hard but foul.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Adam almost got that one. Just hooked foul.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rosales strikes out swinging. 4 Ks for Hamels. Tie game 1-1 after 4.

[Reds Fanatic]

Through 4:

Hamels 78 pitches
Cueto 62 pitches

[_Sir_Charles_]

Feliz lead off double.

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz doubles off the wall in right center.

[Reds Fanatic]

That pitch count I just posted was from Gameday but that does not really seem right. It does not seem like Hamels has thrown near that many pitches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I really like Bruce's arm. Goodness gracious. :O)

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz flies out to right. No one runs on Jay Bruce!

[Screwball]

Feliz doubles off the wall in right center.

Just can't make mistakes to this line-up. Even Pedrio Feliz will make you pay.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamels singles to left. 1st and 3rd.

[Screwball]

Hamels looks like a pretty competent hitter up there.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Now would be a nice time for a DP.

Or a K. That'll work too.

[Falls City Beer]

Lost a little concentration there Johnny. Probably going to cost a lead at least.

[GAC]

Where have I heard this before? Next Marty will be blaming it on Jay.


I wasn't implying that. Feel sorry Bruce. He's doing his part. The indictment should on those guys ahead of him, and a manager who downplays OB% at the top of the order. ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

That 2-2 pitch was close. Cueto is getting no calls on the corner.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins doubles. 2-1 Phillies. 2nd and 3rd.

[mth123]

I wasn't implying that. Feel sorry Bruce. He's doing his part. The indictment should on those guys ahead of him, and a manager who downplays OB% at the top of the order. ;)

I know, but we'll see how long it takes before others start blaming Bruce.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Crud. The wheels coming off a bit this inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley singles in a run. 3-1 Phillies. 1st and 3rd.

[Falls City Beer]

Man, you hate to see a guy take the L when if he gets the pitcher the damage is minimal.

They play this game ten times--same starters--the Reds might win one. Not going to get upset about a loss like this one.

[GAC]

It's just sad, IMO, watching our pitchers put in good performances, and at least keep us in games, yet get very little support from this offense. Really puts the pressure on the pitcher (and defense). You just can't keep doing that to your staff IMO.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Come on guys...way too early to be giving up already. 2 run game. It's FAR from over.

[Falls City Beer]

It's just sad, IMO, watching our pitchers put in good performances, and at least keep us in games, yet get very little support from this offense. Really puts the pressure on the pitcher (and defense). You just can't keep doing that to your staff IMO.

The offense and pitching have both been pretty good. But let's face it: it's the Phils' offense and Hamels pitching--no one's going to do much against that.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Sac fly to make it 4-1. 2 down.

[Screwball]

Ibanez had a really solid at-bat. Fouled off a lot of tough pitches before that sac fly.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Howard k's to end the inning. 4-1 Phils. Now let's pull out the lumbar!

[Superdude]

this is the best I've seen Cueto's fastball all year, but he can't seem to get any other pitches working.

[Falls City Beer]

Come on guys...way too early to be giving up already. 2 run game. It's FAR from over.

Just tell me the Phils have Milton coming in to relieve Hamels and the Reds have Mariano Rivera circa 1999 set to pitch the last 4 frames for the Reds and I'll feel a little better.

[mth123]

The offense and pitching have both been pretty good. But let's face it: it's the Phils' offense and Hamels pitching--no one's going to do much against that.

Philly hit a lot of balls hard. Its not like he pitched in tough luck that inning.

The Reds have hit some hard shots off Hamels as well. Maybe the long inning will get him.

[Reds Fanatic]

McDonald grounds out to short. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez pops out to 1st. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

this is the best I've seen Cueto's fastball all year, but he can't seem to get any other pitches working.

From what I've seen of the game all of Cueto's stuff's been working. Just had a lapse in concentration in facing Hamels and that opened the floodgates. Another lesson learned.

[Reds Fanatic]

Batting McDonald and Gonzalez back to back is basically giving the other team 2 free outs whenever they come up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cueto walks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras strikes out swinging. 5 Ks. 4-1 Phillies after 5.

[Kc61]

The Reds offense is bad enough but facing Peavy and Hamels in consecutive games is just a little unfair.

[alloverjr]

Walt deserves this.

[mth123]

From what I've seen of the game all of Cueto's stuff's been working. Just had a lapse in concentration in facing Hamels and that opened the floodgates. Another lesson learned.

He gave up a lot of Ropes to guys not named Hamels.

[Reds Fanatic]

Werth flies out to right. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

He gave up a lot of Ropes to guys not named Hamels.

But it got a lot worse after Hamels. A young pitcher sees Hamels as a respite when he should view him mentally as just as dangerous as Ryan Howard.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Way to bounce back Cueto. 1-2-3.

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz grounds out to short. 4-1 Phillies mid 6th.

[mth123]

But it got a lot worse after Hamels.

Good bounce back there.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cueto has shown a ton more maturity this year. Really nice to see.

[membengal]

Little pieces of the joy that Reds fans take in the season wilt every time McDonald takes the field at this point. It is moving over to just cruel to force an already offensively challenged club to carry him.

And, Reds Fanatic is right, McDonald and Gonzalez back to back is simply a ridiculously free pass to opposing pitchers, much less to Cole Hamels.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hairston homers to left! 4-2 Phillies.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hairston! 4-2 Reds! #4 for JHJ. :jump:

[GAC]

JHJ puts a charge into one

4-2 now

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hamels is right at 100 pitches. If we get to him this inning a bit...we'll be looking at the Phils' pen shortly.

[mth123]

JHJ making KC61 look pretty smart. He's winning me over and I wanted the Reds to pass on him - expecially after signing Willy.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips triples down the right field line.

[GAC]

BP triples

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phillips with a triple down the line. Nice aggressive baserunning there. Man, he was FLYING!

[Screwball]

Excellent baserunning from Phillips on that triple.

[GAC]

C'mon Bruce. At least get the run in buddy.

[Falls City Beer]

Forget McDonald; this offense without Votto's in big trouble.

[GAC]

not a good AB... Bruce Ks

[_Sir_Charles_]

Darnit! Bruce k's.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out swinging on an inside fastball. Reds have to get the runner in from 3rd.

[GAC]

Mr Contact Ramon gets the run in

4-3 now

[membengal]

Forget McDonald; this offense without Votto's in big trouble.

Of course.

And makes McDonald even more an albatross this club cannot afford to carry. It's just stupid.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez sac fly to right. 3 good ABs from Hernandez. 4-3 Phillies.

[Reds Fanatic]

I think Hernandez would be a good cleanup hitter for this team.

[Falls City Beer]

Of course.

And makes McDonald even more an albatross this club cannot afford to carry. It's just stupid.

Let me amend: this offense without Votto and even with Gomes instead of McDonald is in big trouble.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Adam draws a sprint. Nice.

(I refuse to call them "walks" to Adam)

[membengal]

Let's see if I have reverse jinxed McDonald.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rosales walks.

[SirFelixCat]

Hernandez sure making a case for the #4 spot in the lineup.

[GAC]

Let me amend: this offense without Votto

I think one can say that about any team that loses one of their main offensive cogs though.

[membengal]

Let me amend: this offense without Votto and even with Gomes instead of McDonald is in big trouble.

True. But there is no reason to choose the weaker of the offensive options for an offensively challenged club. Not on a team with Dickerson to help defensively.

[GAC]

Hernandez sure making a case for the #4 spot in the lineup.

Is he Tony Perez-lite? Mr clutch?

[GAC]

Darnell sucks

[membengal]

Useless.

And senseless. Shame on Jocketty for continuing this farce.

[Reds Fanatic]

McDonald strikes out swinging. 4-3 Phillies after 6. Good news is Hamels should be done for the night.

[Screwball]

Let's see if I have reverse jinxed McDonald.

Dude, you jinxed your reverse jinx by bringing up the original jinx. For shame mem.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And with this 0-3 from Darnell, he now slips below the Mendoza line.

[Falls City Beer]

I imagine this is probably McDonald's last start. He's potentially in his last few games with the team.

[mth123]

And with this 0-3 from Darnell, he now slips below the Mendoza line.

Its still his career year.

[membengal]

Dude, you jinxed your reverse jinx by bringing up the original jinx. For shame mem.


Good point. Unless the chasm of ineptitude that is McDonald defies all jinxes, reverse or otherwise.

I would argue that it does.

[membengal]

I imagine this is probably McDonald's last start. He's potentially in his last few games with the team.

So soon?

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz strikes out looking. 4 Ks for Cueto. 1 out.

[_Sir_Charles_]

108 pitches by Cueto and he's still firing BB's.

[SirFelixCat]

I imagine this is probably McDonald's last start. He's potentially in his last few games with the team.

It should be. He should be on his way out of Cincy after the game tonight. I mean, Walk isn't an idiot, he HAS to see what we see, right?

And Cueto really has grown up a whole lot this year. Love watching him pitch.

[SirFelixCat]

This should be Cueto's last inning, right?

[Reds Fanatic]

Dobbs pinch hits and grounds out to 2nd. 2outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Dobbs (ph) 1st pitch swinging grounder to make it 2 outs.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

I'd much rather see Micah Owings in left field than Darnell McDonald. I'd rather see Ronald McDonald in left field than Darnell. I'd even take Grimace.

[SirFelixCat]

Plenty of room :scared: ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Rollins flies out to the warning track in right. 4-3 Phillies mid 7th.

[Red in Chicago]

Ok, we've established that most don't like McDonald, but let's move on please.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice catch by Bruce to end the inning. Another 1-2-3 from Cueto.

I'd think he's done, but other than that 5th inning, this has been a pretty stress-free night from Cueto. But 112 pitches...yeah, he's most likely done.

[Falls City Beer]

Very different ballgame had Cueto focused against Hamels. Ah well.

[Reds Fanatic]

It should be. He should be on his way out of Cincy after the game tonight. I mean, Walk isn't an idiot, he HAS to see what we see, right?

And Cueto really has grown up a whole lot this year. Love watching him pitch.
He should be gone but I don't count on him being sent down. Most of us have known he doesn't belong up since early April and here on May 19th he is still here.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is 112 pitches for Cueto so that should be it for tonight. Plus he is due up 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Clay Condrey in for Hamels.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez grounds out to 1st. 1 out. Dickerson pinch hitting.

[Reds Fanatic]

Not a bad start for Cueto. He had the one inning he struggled but was solid the rest of the night. 7IP, 7H, 4ER, 0BB, 4 K.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Condrey's allowed 3 dingers this year. Like everyone on this Phillies staff...they do allow the gopher balls. Anybody notice how many more they've allowed than the rest of the league. Wow. Good thing they've got a nice offense.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice AB from Dickerson. Really nice to see the patience.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good AB. Dickerson draws a walk.

[Screwball]

Dickerson's got a great eye.

[Falls City Beer]

Condrey's allowed 3 dingers this year. Like everyone on this Phillies staff...they do allow the gopher balls. Anybody notice how many more they've allowed than the rest of the league. Wow. Good thing they've got a nice offense.

They play in a park that only GAB can match for dinger-ability.

[Kc61]

Dickerson walks. He looks more comfortable up there lately. Would like to see Chris get some at bats when righties are pitching.

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras grounds into a 6-4 FC. Taveras should be running here.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Willy grounds out to short, but no throw to first. 2 down, Taveras on first.

Well, I'd say his hot streak has come to a grinding halt.

[_Sir_Charles_]

They play in a park that only GAB can match for dinger-ability.

True, but they're allowing them everywhere. Lots of flyball pitchers on this staff.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Taveras swipes 2nd. Two down.

[Reds Fanatic]

Taveras steals 2nd. His 11th steal of the year.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Hairston grounds out to short. 4-3 Phils after 7

[Reds Fanatic]

Hairston grounds out to short. 4-3 Phillies after 7.

[_Sir_Charles_]

With the Reds team speed, I'd really like to see them more aggressive on the paths than they have been. Especially earlier in the counts.

Not just Taveras. Bruce, Phillips, Hairston, Dickerson, Janish, Rosales, Votto. There's lots of potential base thieves there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rhodes in to face the lefty batters in the 8th.

[GAC]

I'd even take Grimace.

Some felt we had Grimace in LF last year. :D

[Gallen5862]

Let's get some runs Reds.

[Reds Fanatic]

Utley pops out to 2nd. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ibanez grounds out to short. 2 outs.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Let's get some runs Reds.

I agree, but we should probably wait until we're allowed to bat. :D

[Reds Fanatic]

Howard walks.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1st walk of the game by Reds pitchers.

I really like seeing the "0 BB" in Cueto's line. That's a formula for success for him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Werth grounds into a 6-4 FC. 4-3 Phillies mid 8th.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Werth grounds out to end the inning. 4-3 Phils with our big boppers coming up. Phillips, Bruce, Hernandez due up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips, Bruce and Hernandez due up.

[thatcoolguy_22]

From NmCulbreth




Let's revisit some of the trades you mention...

In exchange for Erik Bedard the Orioles received Adam Jones, George Sherrill, Chris Tillman and two more fringe players. At the time of the trade Adam Jones was a top 30 prospect and he's currently posting a .370 / .426 / 1.095 line in the majors. Sherrill became the Oriole's closer and made the All Star game last season. Tillman is currently in AAA and Baseball America rates him as the 22nd best prospect in all of baseball.

In exchange for Dan Haren the A's recieved Brett Anderson, Carlos Gonzalez, Greg Smith, Dana Eveland and two more fringe prospects. Coming into the season Anderson was rated the 7th best prospect in baseball and as a 21 year-old he's already in the A's starting rotation. Gonzalez was considered a top 30 prospect last year and was the centerpiece of the deal that brought Matt Holliday from Colorado. Eveland and Smith both grade out as back of the rotation arms and Smith was included as a part of the Holliday deal.

A package of Bailey, Stubbs and EE doesn't even come close to approaching those two deals in terms of value. Encarnacion is only under contract through next season, he's becoming expensive and the Padres already have Kouzmanoff and Chase Headley at 3B. Given the Padres situation I'd imagine they'd have absolutely no interest in him.

If you're going to use the Bedard and Haren deals as a model for any Peavy deal, you're looking at a package something like Bailey, Alonso, Soto / Francisco and Roenicke / Fischer.


Looking at this post and our putrid offense is it worth chasing a Matt Holiday or other elite type bat for LF or 3B?

[GAC]

BP, Bruce, and Ramon due up.

It's now or never guys, before we get to McDonald and the bottom of the order.

Will Votto get a PH chance?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Ryan Madsen in.

[Gallen5862]

What roster moves were made today?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nice way to start it off Brandon. Lead off single.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles to center. Now is Phillips running.

[GAC]

BP leadoff single

[_Sir_Charles_]

What roster moves were made today?

Ramon Ramirez up for Masset to the DL

[Reds Fanatic]

Madson is in to pitch this inning

[GAC]

Give us a 1 run lead here Bruce. ;)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Phillips needs to be running here.

[GAC]

Bruce Ks and looks bad doing it too. A change up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Bruce K's. Looked bad there.

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce chases a low and outside pitch. 1 out.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the roster info Sir Charles.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Only 1 HR from Ramon....he's due.

[Tony Cloninger]

Not even close there.....his change up is NOT that good.

[GAC]

Phillips needs to be running here.

BP does not have a good steal % this season (4 fer 7). You can't give up an out right now when you need base runners.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Why is Brandon not running here? I don't get that.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hernandez grounds out to 3rd. Phillips goes to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Rosales flies out to right. 4-3 Phillies after 8.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Rosales pops out to end the inning.

Steal a base during the Bruce AB and you start to put some pressure on the pitcher and you move the defense around. Standing pat just plays into the Phillies hand there IMO.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cordero in for the 9th.

[CTA513]

Is Votto available to pinch hit tonight?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Cordero in for the 9th

[_Sir_Charles_]

Is Votto available to pinch hit tonight?

I don't even think he's in the dugout is he? I thought he was at the hospital for tests all day today.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Victorino K's...and he ain't too happy about it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Victorino strikes out looking. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

I don't even think he's in the dugout is he? I thought he was at the hospital for tests all day today.He is in the dugout but I doubt he will be used since they still don't really know what is wrong with him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Feliz grounds out to 3rd on the first pitch. 2 outs.

[Kc61]

I don't even think he's in the dugout is he? I thought he was at the hospital for tests all day today.

Votto was in the dugout, at least earlier. Would be great if he can swing the bat. Votto and Owings would be good ninth inning pinch hitters in this game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

1-2-3 for Cordero. In a non-save situation...wow. Nice change of pace there Coco.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ruiz flies out to center. 4-3 Phillies mid 9th.

McDonald, Gonzalez, pinch hitter due up. Reds should be using a lot of pinch hitters here.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'd take our chances with any of our available PH'ers tonight. Hanigan, Janish, Votto, Nix & Owings. The first 2 don't have the power, but they're both hitting VERY well this year.

[jojo]

Victorino K's...and he ain't too happy about it.

Very close pitch but it ate up the plate. Perhaps if it was on the corner too, the call goes the other way. Way too close to take with two strikes either way.

[Homer Bailey]

If McDonald hits here, I'm going on furlow with Fay.

[Reds Fanatic]

Lidge in to pitch

[_Sir_Charles_]

Lidge in to close it. 0-1 with 2 blown saves and an ERA of 8.31

[_Sir_Charles_]

Quickly 0-2 to McDonald.

[_Sir_Charles_]

LOL. Just for a second I thought McDonald was trying to shut up RZ for the night. But just a loud out to the track.

[Reds Fanatic]

McDonald flies out to right. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Gonzalez.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Gonzo safe at first on the Rollins bobble. E? Nope, they call it a single.

Janish pinch running. Nix pinch hitting.

[Tony Cloninger]

The bad thing about the Reds coming home...is having to hear Grande's inane....add nothing to the game... reporting.

[RBA]

Will Nix hit a walkoff?

[jojo]

Boy this is a giftwrapped save opportunity for Lidge if Dusty doesn't use PH profusely.

[Reds Fanatic]

Janish is running for Gonzalez.
Nix is hitting for Cordero.

[LoganBuck]

You know I have moved into outward disgust and hatred of Darnell McDonald.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Lidge getting squeezed a bit here. 3-0 to Nix.

[RBA]

2 on 1 out.

[jojo]

Fun stuff.........

[_Sir_Charles_]

Nix walks. Nice AB there. 1st & 2nd with 1 out. Top of the order coming up.

[VR]

Lidge getting squeezed a bit here. 3-0 to Nix.

Nice ab for Nix.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nix walks. 1st and 2nd. Taveras up. I would use Owings here. Taveras really has not looked good the last 4 games.

[VR]

Taveras to bunt.