5/31/09 - Reds vs Brewers

[Reds Fanatic]

Lineups:


Reds (26 - 22)
3rd in NL Central
Brewers (29 - 20)
1st in NL Central

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. C Dickerson, CF .250 2 8 1
2. J Hairston Jr., 3B .270 7 16 4
3. J Bruce, RF .230 14 29 3
4. B Phillips, 2B .275 8 35 4
5. L Nix, LF .273 4 10 0
6. R Hernandez, 1B .291 3 20 0
7. A Gonzalez, SS .215 2 16 0
8. R Hanigan, C .328 1 4 0
9. M Owings, P .296 1 4 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. C Counsell, 2B .327 1 8 0
2. J Hardy, SS .239 5 23 0
3. R Braun, LF .318 9 32 3
4. P Fielder, 1B .278 12 48 0
5. M Cameron, CF .279 10 24 2
6. M Gamel, 3B .160 1 5 0
7. C Hart, RF .256 5 19 3
8. J Kendall, C .203 0 15 0
9. Y Gallardo, P .190 2 4 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
M Owings 3 5 4.78 1.53 30

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
Y Gallardo 4 2 3.32 1.08 56

[Joseph]

Can we avoid the sweep?

[fisch11]

This game was the most unlikely game they would win of the entire series. With that in mind, they will probably win.

[membengal]

Gallardo is dealing, nasty heater, devastating curve, Dickerson and JHJ have Kd in short order.

Not a pleasant start to the game. Crowd roaring already on every pitch.

[membengal]

He Ks the side. He may K 27 today if he pitches like that the rest of the game.

Owings had best be ready to meet the moment or this will be over quickly.

[Joseph]

Bruce looks like such a guess hitter right now its not even funny.

[membengal]

Counsell flies out to LF.

Hardy walks.

Braun hit and run single to rf, Hardy to third.

Fielder flies to short LF, runner cannot tag.

Two outs, two on.

[membengal]

Cameron singles to LF. Brewers up 1-0.

[Joseph]

Ugly.

[membengal]

Bloop single scores another, runner from first to third.

2-0 Brewers.

And...I am having a tough time working out a scenario where the Reds have a shot in this one.

Gallardo is close to unhittable in day games, particularly day games at Miller.

[membengal]

Hart flies to CF.

2-0 Brewers after one.

[membengal]

Phillips gets on with a HBP.

[membengal]

Gallardo's ERA this season during day games is 0.00.

WP moves Phillips to 3b.

1-2 count on Nix.

[membengal]

Nix Ks.

[membengal]

Ramon works a BB. Nice at-bat.

Alex G up.

Why is he hitting ahead of Hanigan at this point?

[membengal]

Alex G on a 1-0 pitch chases a ball he couldn't hit with a boat oar and flings his bat 4 rows up in the stands while flailing. He does that a lot.

[membengal]

Nice comeback for Alex G, and feeds a mistake pitch into CF for a single.

Bases loaded, one out. Hanigan up.

[membengal]

Haingan Ks.

Up to Owings.

5th K in 5 outs for Gallardo.

[membengal]

Owings Ks on three pitches. All curves. He's going to have to stop swinging at those as they won't keep throwing him fastballs.

2-0 Brewers middle of two.

[membengal]

Owings walks Kendall on four pitches.

Seriously.

[membengal]

Gallardo gets the bunt down.

[membengal]

Counsell bloop single to LF, runners on 1st and 3rd.

[membengal]

Hardy sac fly to CF.

3-0 Brewer lead.

[membengal]

Guys, I have to attend to some stuff in and around the house and move to listening to it. Can't keep up the PBP. Not sure anyone will want to read PBP anyway...

We are 3-0 Brewers after 2.

[Kc61]

Tough for the Reds to come back against this pitcher. Big opportunity wasted last inning when Hanigan couldn't make contact with bags full. Seemed like a great fastball by pitcher struck him out, but it 's a big play.

A longball by Bruce would help. If he isn't going to get on base much, he needs to hit the long ball in a game like this.

Now pitcher Gallardo has to remove a band aid on his arm that was distracting Reds hitters. That explains everything. Nice work, Dusty.

[mth123]

Gallardo on pace for 27K. With these hackers he could set a record today.

[mth123]

Dickerson Pops up in a mini-victory. 1 out

[mth123]

Cameron and Braun let one drop. Hairston on 2B.

[mth123]

Bruce singles in Hairston.

[Kc61]

RBI single by Bruce, hopefully will get his bat going to bigger and better things. I'd love to see the Reds come back here. Listening to the Brewers' announcers this weekend makes be crave for a Reds win.

[mth123]

Phillips singles. 1st and 2nd. 1 out.

[mth123]

Hernadez Ks. Reds are out, 3-1. Missed somebody.

[Kc61]

Hernadez Ks. Reds are out, 3-1. Missed somebody.

Nix K'd.

[mth123]

8 K in three innings???

[mth123]

Cameron 2 run homer.

[Kc61]

Fielder walks. Cameron homers. I'm done for today, as Owings should be.

[mth123]

Think I'll stick around to see if Gallardo can run at the record for K's in a game.

[mth123]

Gamel singles.

[membengal]

Think I'll stick around to see if Gallardo can run at the record for K's in a game.

I think he can.

[Matt700wlw]

Owings - bullpen

Burton - AAA (Lincoln's got a 2 yr deal, which was stupid, and I don't think he has options).

Maloney - give him his shot!

[mth123]

Hart with a hit past Hairston. Probably shoulda been a DP.

[membengal]

I still would call up Alonso.

[mth123]

DP 5-4-3. 2 outs and Gallardo up with a guy on 3B.

[Matt700wlw]

I still would call up Alonso.


Um....no.

[Kc61]

Owings - bullpen

Burton - AAA (Lincoln's got a 2 yr deal, which was stupid, and I don't think he has options).

Maloney - give him his shot!

When Volquez returns tomorrow Burton should go down.

I wouldn't dump Owings over this, let him work through it.

Lincoln threw pretty well last night, maybe he'll come back. With the two year deal I don't think he's going anywhere.

If Owings continues to struggle, then Maloney takes his spot. Next time Reds need a replacement starter, it should be Maloney. Next replacement reliever should be Roenicke or Manuel.

[membengal]

Um....no.

Um...yes.

He's on the 40 man. He can hit ml pitching right now. They need the stick at that position with Votto gone. He's already 22, it's not like he's a babe in the woods.

[Matt700wlw]

When Volquez returns tomorrow Burton should go down.

I wouldn't dump Owings over this, let him work through it.

Lincoln threw pretty well last night, maybe he'll come back. With the two year deal I don't think he's going anywhere.

If Owings continues to struggle, then Maloney takes his spot. Next time Reds need a replacement starter, it should be Maloney. Next replacement reliever should be Roenicke or Manuel.

Fair enough.

[Matt700wlw]

Um...yes.

He's on the 40 man. He can hit ml pitching right now. They need the stick at that position with Votto gone. He's already 22, it's not like he's a babe in the woods.

He's not even in AA yet....I'm all for that promotion, and hopefully putting him on pace to come up in September (or late summer if the opportunity opens itself)

[remdog]

I wouldn't be opposed to giving Maloney a shot but I get visions of Phil Dumatrait when I think of him. I have no observations or numbers to suggest that but it just pops into my head.

As for Alonso, he needs to grow his game and the Bigs isn't the place to do it.

Rem

[VR]

Gallardo went 126 5 days ago....I'm guessing he's not going to be around for anywhere near that today.....he's at 70 through 3 2/3 right now.

[mth123]

Owings Ks. Number 9. Gonzalez (Double) on 2B with 2 out.

[mth123]

Dickerson walks. If Hairston can do something, this could still be a game.

[VR]

Good ab for Dickerson.

Take one here JHG

[membengal]

He's not even in AA yet....I'm all for that promotion, and hopefully putting him on pace to come up in September (or late summer if the opportunity opens itself)

That's their fault. If they had started him in AA, he would be OPSing .875 or better there too. He's just a natural hitter. He can help this team. Now. And they need his help. Now.

This season can slip away in an eye-blink this next 15 days with Votto gone, against this particular competition.

[mth123]

Hairston fouls out to Fielder. 5-1.

[mth123]

Counsell ground back to Owings. 1 out.

[mth123]

Hardy grounds to Hernandez unassisted. 2 outs.

[mth123]

Braun grounds back to Owings. Wow 1-2-3.

[Matt700wlw]

That was better, Micah!

[Kc61]

I wouldn't be opposed to giving Maloney a shot but I get visions of Phil Dumatrait when I think of him. I have no observations or numbers to suggest that but it just pops into my head.

As for Alonso, he needs to grow his game and the Bigs isn't the place to do it.

Rem

Maloney and Dumatrait both tall lefties. But I think the comparison ends there.

Dumatrait always had trouble with high walk totals. Maloney hardly ever walks anyone.

And Dumatrait got his AAA ERA down in the mid-3 range. Maloney is at 2.33 this year, and has been far more dominant at this level than Dumatrait was.

My guess, based on the public reports and following his progress, is that Maloney could be a left handed Bronson Arroyo type pitcher. If he can get his fastball up to respectable levels, say 88-90 on a regular basis, he can be successful using an assortment of pitches and command. If his fastball is mid-80s, and hitters don't have to worry about it, he will get tagged.

[mth123]

Braun robs Bruce of two bases. 1 out.

[WVRedsFan]

It's almost like the Reds have to have perfect pitching to win. This series, the long ball killed both Cueto and Harang and the offense couldn't score enough to keep up. If Alfonso brings offense, then bring him up. We need offense.

[mth123]

Phillips Homer!!!!!

[remdog]

J-Boy needs to get sometihing going.

I'm a bit surprised that BP has a hit with that broken thumb.

Nix has certainly cooled off.

That's our prospective batters for this inning.

Edit: Never mind. :lol:

Rem

[mth123]

Nix grounds out.

[Matt700wlw]

:jump:

Ryan Braun's awesomeness prevented that from adding 2

[mth123]

:jump:

Ryan Braun's awesomeness prevented that from tying the game

That Homer made it 5-2.

[WVRedsFan]

You have to also wonder if Jay Bruce will ever reach his potential as a hitter. Just thinking out loud here. This has been a depressing series.

[mth123]

Hernandez grounds to Fielder. 5-2 middle of 5.

[Matt700wlw]

That Homer made it 5-2.

I know...brain fart :)

[Kc61]

It's almost like the Reds have to have perfect pitching to win. This series, the long ball killed both Cueto and Harang and the offense couldn't score enough to keep up. If Alfonso brings offense, then bring him up. We need offense.

Without Votto the Reds need an offensive threat. The only options I see are Alonso -- or possibly using Gomes at first base on a regular basis and hoping he hits all kinds of pitching.

Probably good to stay conservative with Alonso for his own development, but the Reds need a threat, particularly from the left side, and I don't see other options in the organization.

[BCubb2003]

I'm a bit surprised that BP has a hit with that broken thumb.



Break all their thumbs!

[Falls City Beer]

The Reds are the NL's version of KC, Toronto: get hot, fall back to the pack by Memorial Day. Yeah, it's injuries, no doubt. But it's also no depth.

[mth123]

Gonzalez flies to center.

[mth123]

Hanigan with a gapper for a double.

[Falls City Beer]

Hanigan = team MVP thus far.

[mth123]

Owings singles. first and third 1 out. Dickerson up.

[mth123]

No record. Gallardo out of the game. A lefty coming in. Gomes here?

[membengal]

Lefty coming in, pinch hit Gomes here? If so, who plays CF?

[mth123]

Lefty coming in, pinch hit Gomes here? If so, who plays CF?

Nix or Bruce. Both better defenders than Taveras anyhow.

[wheels]

Would love to see extra bases of some sort from dickerson here.

[mth123]

Dickerson batting. This is a mistake IMO.

[Matt700wlw]

Hanigan = team MVP thus far.

I think Votto would be the front runner for that....but I'm a BIG fan of Hannigan. All he does is produce.

[mth123]

Dickerson FC. Hanigan holds third. 2 outs for Hairston.

[membengal]

Dickerson batting. This is a mistake IMO.

Stetter is their ONLY left-hander out of the pen. Yeah, Gomes might have been a decent play there.

[Matt700wlw]

well....poo

[membengal]

Ridiculous.

[mth123]

Hairston K's and looks bad doing it. Wasted chance.

[Matt700wlw]

JHJ has put together a pretty good season so far....I guess he's not Corey Patterson :D

Bad day though....not just him.

[Kc61]

I think Votto would be the front runner for that....but I'm a BIG fan of Hannigan. All he does is produce.



Let's not get carried away on Hanigan. First off, in this game he fanned with bases loaded one out opportunity earlier. Then, on third base, Brewers handed the Reds a run there -- Dickerson ground ball, not even a look to third base, Brewers go for DP but fail to turn it. Hanigan left standing on third. Brewers announcers could not believe he stayed at third, nor could I.

Brewers pitchers may be good, but this game has been one missed Reds opportunity after the other.

Hanigan is a very good backup catcher. He's not the team MVP.

[mth123]

Owings still out there. Who would have bet that Gallardo would be out first?

[Falls City Beer]

Let's not get carried away on Hanigan. First off, in this game he fanned with bases loaded one out opportunity earlier. Then, on third base, Brewers handed the Reds a run there -- Dickerson ground ball, not even a look to third base, Brewers go for DP but fail to turn it. Hanigan left standing on third. Brewers announcers could not believe he stayed at third, nor could I.

Brewers pitchers may be good, but this game has been one missed Reds opportunity after the other.

Hanigan is a very good backup catcher. He's not the team MVP.

It's him, Cueto, or Rhodes. Thus far.

[mth123]

Hart GO 6-3

[mth123]

Kendall doubles.

[Matt700wlw]

Micah seems to have settled down a bit.....

[Kc61]

It's him, Cueto, or Rhodes. Thus far.

I assume you mean Votto, Cueto or Rhodes. I'd add Phillips, Arroyo and Cordero as possibilities.

[mth123]

Hall K. 5K for Owings.

[Matt700wlw]

It's him, Cueto, or Rhodes. Thus far.

And Votto gets overlooked for what reason?

[mth123]

Masset coming in. Runner on second and 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

And Votto gets overlooked for what reason?

Votto's borderline--being in the lineup counts.

[Kc61]

By the way, I don't know how Dusty could leave Dickerson in that last inning against Setters. He had Gomes and Rosales from the right side. Bring in Rosales, Hairston can move to CF. Or Bruce can play center if Taveras is unavailable.

I assume Gomes will hit for Nix, but then the Brewers will go to a righty. So if he was saving Gomes, it will not get him an advantage next inning.

[VR]

Good recovery by Owings to get through 5 2/3...hopefully Masset can shut it down for him.

[VR]

By the way, I don't know how Dusty could leave Dickerson in that last inning against Setters. He had Gomes and Rosales from the right side. Bring in Rosales, Hairston can move to CF. Or Bruce can play center if Taveras is unavailable.

I assume Gomes will hit for Nix, but then the Brewers will go to a righty. So if he was saving Gomes, it will not get him an advantage next inning.

That did seem like the ideal opportunity to hit Gomes there.

[Kc61]

That did seem like the ideal opportunity to hit Gomes there.

wouldn't have mattered if MVP Hanigan would have just run home.

[mth123]

Gomes coming up and the pitching change follows. 1 out runner on first.

[LvJ]

I love Ryan Hanigan, but team MVP? :bowrofl:

[mth123]

Wild pick-off throw. Bruce to 2B.

[mth123]

Gomes Ks

[VR]

3-15 risp today

[mth123]

Hernandez back to the mound. 3 outs.

[BCubb2003]

3-15 risp today

That's because all the offense was spent on getting into scoring position.

[Kc61]

Brewers TV announcers with major discussion stemming from Reds carrying 13 pitchers.

Think there are 12, actually.

[Falls City Beer]

This team has officially just been pwned.

[membengal]

How come George Grande can say "Hell" in "Hell's Bells" when Hoffman comes in but not "Damn" in "Best Damn Sports Show"?

[BCubb2003]

How come George Grande can say "Hell" in "Hell's Bells" when Hoffman comes in but not "Damn" in "Best Damn Sports Show"?

I'm surprised he didn't say Heck's Becks.

[Chip R]

Hey, did you guys know Hoffman used to be in the Reds organization?

[BCubb2003]

Hey, did you guys know Hoffman used to be in the Reds organization?

What position did he play?

[Tom Servo]

Man, I hate the Brewers.

[WVRedsFan]

Man, I hate the Brewers.

Two of us. Cubs-Cardinals-Brewers-Pirates. Hate them all with a passion.

[WVRedsFan]

It became woefully obvious today that Micah Owens is not the answer at 5th starter. It's time to try someone else, maybe Massett. Of course, it didn't matter much. When you only get two runs and seven hits, hardly anyone can win.

[traderumor]

Hey, did you guys know Hoffman used to be in the Reds organization?Yea, but it wasn't as a pitcher, IIRC. If only the Reds had listened to Jim Tracy...:rolleyes:

[lollipopcurve]

Yea, but it wasn't as a pitcher, IIRC.

No -- the Reds converted him to a pitcher, then left him unprotected in the expansion draft -- and the Marlins snagged him.

[Raisor]

No -- the Reds converted him to a pitcher, then left him unprotected in the expansion draft -- and the Marlins snagged him.

IRONY ALERT!

:thumbup:

[kaldaniels]

Two of us. Cubs-Cardinals-Brewers-Pirates. Hate them all with a passion.

Maybe its the repetition of playing all the Central teams...but I'm with you. If the Reds can't win the NL, I want the pennant winner to come from the East or West, and hope for the other Central teams to choke come playoff time.