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Red in Chicago
07-24-2009, 02:12 PM
Reds
C. Dickerson rf
W. Taveras cf
J. Votto 1b
B. Phillips 2b
E. Encarnacion 3b
L. Nix lf
R. Hanigan c
A. Gonzalez ss
A. Harang p

Cubs
K. Fukudome cf
R. Theriot ss
D. Lee 1b
A. Ramirez 3b
M. Bradley rf
A. Soriano lf
M. Fontenot 2b
K. Hill c
R. Wells p

BearcatShane
07-24-2009, 02:44 PM
I have no idea if I can do this or not but is their anyway that I can watch this game on the internet through a stream?

Degenerate39
07-24-2009, 02:58 PM
The Reds have only played 10 games with their projected opening day lineup. Well that's not hard to believe considering McDonald was on the opening day lineup

Ltlabner
07-24-2009, 03:07 PM
Jim Kelch on the FSN TV broadcast. Interesting.

nate
07-24-2009, 03:08 PM
Chat is open for pre-game jocularity.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Jim Kelch on the FSN TV broadcast. Interesting.


George was out too late carousing on Rush St and couldn't make the game since he's still drunk.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Jim Kelch on the FSN TV broadcast. Interesting.

Thom's doing radio. That is interesting they would have Kelch on TV and not Thom.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:22 PM
George was out too late carousing on Rush St and couldn't make the game since he's still drunk.

I would assume Grande is in Cooperstown tying one on. This is HOF weekend,I think.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:23 PM
CDick K's on three pitches and we are off to flying start in this one.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:25 PM
5-4-3 DP by BP with runners on the corners to end the inning! This is comical!

Degenerate39
07-24-2009, 03:25 PM
Phillips grounds into a Casey/Phillips

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Phillips hits into,you guessed it,a Phillips and this inning is quickly over.

Kc61
07-24-2009, 03:26 PM
5-4-3 DP by BP to end the inning! This is comical!

What would Matt Holliday have done?

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:27 PM
What would Matt Holliday have done?

Faked an injury so he wouldn't have to play for this team.

KoryMac5
07-24-2009, 03:29 PM
No way the Reds will be able to trade Harang with that fastball velocity sitting at 87 mph.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:30 PM
Bottom of 1. Fukudome up. Harang falls behind 3-0, makes it to full, then gives up a line-drive single to left.

REDSEER
07-24-2009, 03:31 PM
BTW, Gameday shows Gomes instead of Nix in the lineup...is that correct?

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:31 PM
Theriot, noted slugger (career-high 7 HR in 2009), hits one to the wall in left-center. Taveras has it, one down. Described by Thom as a floater that just carried.

This could be a bad for a fly-ball pitcher like Harang.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:33 PM
D. Lee to the dish. Takes a fastball strike (described by Gameday as an 86-mph changeup). Breaking ball away. Low, 2-1. Jam shot is popped up into short right- Phillips dives out of the way as Dickerson comes swooping in for the catch.

Two down.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:35 PM
A-Ram steps in. 1-1 count. Fastball up-and in, 2-1. High fly to right-center falls in the gap. Relay throw does not get Fukudome and the Cubs lead 1-0. Hanigan had the plate blocked and the throw was good, but Kosuke slid right around the catcher.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:37 PM
Gamesmaster up. Falls behind 0-2 after waving at an 88-mph fastball. Another "heater" stays away. Fouled back. Swing and a miss!

1-0 Cubs after 1.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:39 PM
I have seen Harang start off slow and get faster as the game goes on, so don't assume he's toast just yet.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:40 PM
EdE doubles. Gomes GO on the first pitch.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:40 PM
Top of 2. Edwin against Randy Wells. First pitch is ripped over Soriano's head in left and Encarnacion has a double. Soriano almost let EdE have a triple when he momentarily couldn't find the ball in the ivy. Apparently there was a warmup ball still in the ivy or something.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:41 PM
Gomes goes hackin' and grounds to short. One down.

REDSEER
07-24-2009, 03:41 PM
Reds are swinging at a lot of first pitches early here....I guess as long as they are hits it's okay...

Chip R
07-24-2009, 03:43 PM
Gamesmaster up. Falls behind 0-2 after waving at an 88-mph fastball. Another "heater" stays away. Fouled back. Swing and a miss!

1-0 Cubs after 1.


The Cubs signed Kevin Sullivan?

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:43 PM
Edwin doesn't score on a base hit to left. Bad mental mistake but no surprise.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:43 PM
Let's see if Hanigan can do this a little better than Gomes. Takes a fastball high. Fouled away, 1-1. Broken-bat flare drops into short left for a base hit, but Edwin was not watching Mark Berry and has to hold at third. More announcer hyperventilation over this.

Degenerate39
07-24-2009, 03:43 PM
EE needs to be clean up hitter right now

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:45 PM
Alex Gonzalez up with a man on third and less than two outs. First pitch is way inside- did it hit him? Hard grounder juuuust foul up the third-base line. Waves at a breaking ball, 1-2. He's got to get this runner home with the pitcher due up. Grounded back to the mound, Encarnacion in a rundown. He's tagged out. Now runners on first and second, two out.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:46 PM
EE screws up on the bases again. Gets himself out at the plate on an infield grounder.

Reds baseball is so much more enjoyable when you bet against them. This is flat out hysterical.

Thom Brennamen describes the way I feel perfectly almost every time.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:47 PM
Harang swings through the first one, then takes a ball.

OH MY GOD!

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 03:47 PM
Harang hits a 3 run home run!!!!

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
...HARANG HITS A THREE-RUN HOME RUN. HOLY CRAP.

3-1 Reds.

nate
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
Just as I predicted!

Degenerate39
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
lol Someone was getting very excited in the booth

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
That's his first career home run.

nate
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
Lol, btw!

Holy carp!

REDSEER
07-24-2009, 03:48 PM
I was just thinking...."wouldn't it be ironic if Harang hit a bomb".....

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:49 PM
Dickerson smacks a grounder to second that is pan-handed by Fontenot. E-4, inning continues.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:49 PM
Harang just said the heck with the rest of you. I'm just going to do it myself.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:49 PM
Chris then swipes second on the very first pitch to Taveras (a strike).

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Willy T watches a breaking ball away, 1-1. Borderline inside pitch called a strike. Inside, 2-2. Flare into left, but Soriano is there this time and makes the catch.

3-1 Reds after 1.5.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:51 PM
You think I should start a thread wondering if Harang should get some time in the outfield so we can get his bat into the lineup? ;)

Ltlabner
07-24-2009, 03:53 PM
You know, having the pitcher in all of MLB that looks the least comfortable at the plate hit a 3 run Johnson couldn't have happened to a nicer team.

LINEDRIVER
07-24-2009, 03:54 PM
Jim Kelch on the FSN TV broadcast. Interesting.

Kelch is doing a great job today. He and Welsh sound great together. A nice break from the same 'ole same 'ole.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:55 PM
Harang gets Soriano swinging on a 2-2 slider. One down. Alfonso's been dropped to the #6 slot.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:55 PM
Fontenot hits his eighth home run of the year. 3-2 Reds.

LINEDRIVER
07-24-2009, 03:56 PM
could this be one of those windy day 12-10 games???

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:57 PM
Light-hitting catcher Koyie Hill steps in. He falls behind 0-2, then evens things up. Strike three called on the inside corner! 3 Ks for Harang. Two outs.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:57 PM
could this be one of those windy day 12-10 games???

Yes, it very well could be.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 03:58 PM
Wells pops up to second, inning over.

3-2 Reds after 2.

cumberlandreds
07-24-2009, 03:59 PM
could this be one of those windy day 12-10 games???

It could be if the Reds had 12 or 10 runs in them. But I doubt they can score that many even on a wind blowing out day at Wrigley.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:02 PM
Top of 3. Votto leads off. Falls behind 0-2 on a taken strike and a foul. Takes one that just misses, then another one low. 2-2. Fastball up and away, full count. Fastball down the middle is fouled off. Another foul. Swings through a breaking ball on the outside corner, see ya.

One down.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:03 PM
It could be if the Reds had 12 or 10 runs in them. But I doubt they can score that many even on a wind blowing out day at Wrigley.


In a series maybe.

HeatherC1212
07-24-2009, 04:04 PM
I had to come here to check and see if the Yahoo Gameday thing was right when it said HARANG hit a 3-run HR!! :D That is AWESOME. No matter what happens in this game, that moment has totally made my craptastic day and I can't wait to see the highlight on the news later, LOL :lol:

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:04 PM
B-Phil steps up. He's got some atonement to do for that clutch Phillips he hit into in the first. Hacks at the first pitch and fouls it off. Fastball's inside. Lays off the slider low and another heater inside, 3-1. Brandon punches a sinking liner to center that drops for a base hit.

RichRed
07-24-2009, 04:06 PM
You know, having the pitcher in all of MLB that looks the least comfortable at the plate hit a 3 run Johnson couldn't have happened to a nicer team.

I was just thinking, it is sooo Cublike to give up an anemic-hitting pitcher's first career homer. Bless 'em.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:07 PM
Encarnacion steps in. Hit a laser beam the last time up. Pickoff throw to first, then a slider is fouled off. Grounder foul, 0-2. Another pickoff throw over. Breaking ball juuuust tipped foul. Fastball on the inside corner locks him up, strike three.

Two outs.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:11 PM
Gomes up. Can he be a little smarter this time? First pitch taken up and away. Phillips steals bag #15 on ball two- Fontenot had a chance to get him, but Brandon had a nice fadeaway slide to get to the bag. Check swing called a strike. Fastball off the plate is called strike two. Jonny's not happy. Ball three's in the dirt. Swung on and missed, strike three. All three outs this inning on the Ks.

3-2 Reds, mid 3rd.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:13 PM
Bottom of 3. Fukudome rips at the first pitch off the fence in left-center for a leadoff double.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Theriot gets ahead 2-0, but Harang gets a strike over on the inside corner. Count eventually works full. Ryan grounds to second and gets the runner to third. One out.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:17 PM
The Riot grounds to 2nd to advance the runner to 3rd

CTA513
07-24-2009, 04:17 PM
The Riot grounds to 2nd to advance the runner to 3rd

Doesn't he know hes supposed to pull the ball to 3rd and leave the runner at 2nd?

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:19 PM
Doesn't he know hes supposed to pull the ball to 3rd and leave the runner at 2nd?


He's never played for the Reds.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:20 PM
1-1 to Lee. He flies out to short right! Runner can't score. Two down.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:21 PM
Pitching to Aramis? I've seen this act before

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:21 PM
Ramirez rips a 1-2 pitch into right for a game-tying single.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 04:22 PM
YAYYYY Dusty Baker.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 04:22 PM
You can't have this bad of a team AND carry this bad of a manager.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:23 PM
Ramirez rips a 1-2 pitch into right for a game-tying single.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2030539771_2cf916eb49.jpg

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Announcers yelling again about how Harang was dumb for pitching to Ramirez. Interestingly, one of his fastballs to Bradley jumps from 89 to 94 (according to Brantley). Gameday is showing 91-92.

Aaron throws that fastball by the Gamesmaster for strike three.

3-3 tied after 3.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Pitching to Aramis? I've seen this act before

Who then singles and then Bradley follows with another K.

:sleep:

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:26 PM
Hanigan leads off the fourth with a line-drive single to left-center.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:27 PM
By the way it was Drew Sutton sent back to AAA as the roster move for Gonzalez' activation. Yay.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:28 PM
A-Gonz gets ahead 2-0. He grounds to third, but it's hit too softly for a double play. 5-4 fielder's choice brings up the Slugger.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:29 PM
Slugger lays down a sacrifice bunt that moves Gonzo to second. Dickerson steps up.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Slugger lays down a sacrifice bunt that moves Gonzo to second. Dickerson steps up.


Why is Dusty giving up an out with his best power hitter up?! ;)

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:32 PM
CD takes a couple of offspeed pitches- one ball, one strike. Fouled straight back, 1-2. Ball's low, count evens. Four-seamer juuuust misses the outside corner. Fastball inside is swung on and missed.

3-3 after 3.5. Five Ks for Wells in four innings.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 04:32 PM
Wells already has 5 Ks and hes not really a strike out pitcher.

Strikes Out Looking
07-24-2009, 04:35 PM
Wells already has 5 Ks and hes not really a strike out pitcher.

Against the Reds, we could all be strike out pitchers.

durl
07-24-2009, 04:35 PM
If I'm counting correctly, Reds' pitchers have allowed the opponent to score in 10 of the past 19 innings--or 52%.

Meanwhile, the Reds have scored in 6 of the past 22--or 27%

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:39 PM
Harang gets Soriano to ground to third after a long battle. He falls behind 3-0 to Fontenot, but comes back to induce a broken-bat grounder to Phillips. Two outs.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:40 PM
Hill pokes a changeup through the right side for a single.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:40 PM
Wells flies out to center. First zero on the board in this one for Chicago.

3-3 after 4.

VR
07-24-2009, 04:48 PM
Did the Reds get to bat in the top of the 5th?

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:49 PM
Did the Reds get to bat in the top of the 5th?


Does it matter?

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:49 PM
Uneventful top of the fifth for Cincinnati- they go 1-2-3.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:50 PM
Fukudome flies out to center to start the Cubs' fifth.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I'm waiting for the announcers to stop fellating Theriot over his "productive out" his last time up.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm waiting for the announcers to stop fellating Theriot over his "productive out" his last time up.


Thom and Jeff about had children.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:51 PM
Fundamentals Jesus hacks at a bad pitch and strikes out. Ha. Two outs.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:53 PM
Lee takes a classic wide stance at the plate. Careful what you do in the airport, Derrek. Harang misses with two, gets him to swing at a change, then misses for ball three and gets upset. Foul runs it full. Fastball apparently ran 94 on the gun, but Gameday says 89. Hit to left-center and Gomes makes the play. 1-2-3.

3-3 going to the 6th.

RichRed
07-24-2009, 04:53 PM
Thom and Jeff about had children.

:laugh:

and

:barf:

LoganBuck
07-24-2009, 04:55 PM
Didn't Aaron Harang and Ken Griffey Jr have an agreement that if Aaron ever hit a homer that Ken would buy him a new car or something along those lines? I wonder if that is still in play?

VR
07-24-2009, 04:55 PM
Does it matter?

It is a good idea to just skip the Reds turn for a few innings, will shorten the games without compromising the outcome.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:56 PM
Encarnacion leading off the 6th. He takes a couple of close ones, both called balls.

"Creation Museum Faith Day"? OMG (so to speak). Didn't know that. But can Our Lord make productive outs?

Edwin draws a leadoff walk.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 04:59 PM
Gomes hacks at a breaking ball away. Another one is taken for a ball. Fastball for a ball, fouled away, ball three.

Bouncer over the mound with Edwin running gets him to second after Jonny's thrown out at first. One down.

Hoosier Red
07-24-2009, 05:01 PM
Lee takes a classic wide stance at the plate. Careful what you do in the airport, Derrek. Harang misses with two, gets him to swing at a change, then misses for ball three and gets upset. Foul runs it full. Fastball apparently ran 94 on the gun, but Gameday says 89. Hit to left-center and Gomes makes the play. 1-2-3.

3-3 going to the 6th.

How much do we have to pay Doc. Scott to be required to do all P-B-P for the rest of the season?

dsmith421
07-24-2009, 05:02 PM
Creeper is absolutely cracking me up today. I think he should be required to drink like four beers before first pitch.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:03 PM
Aaron Heilman in the Cub pen.

Hanigan's 2-for-2. He takes a couple of fastballs out of the strike zone. Third fastball is a taken strike. Roller foul evens it up. Another foul, this one off Ryan's foot. Ow. Welsh talks about how it's a great feeling when you're on the mound and a batter hurts himself with a foul ball. Good to know.

Fairly deep fly ball to right-center moves Edwin to third. Two outs.

VR
07-24-2009, 05:03 PM
Hanigan's .529 OPS with RISP goes down with the flyout to LC. Only 30 ab's, but goofy.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
Pitch to Gonzo or Harang? Does it matter?

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
A-Gonz loops one into short right-center, but it's caught. Don't blame them for not walking him and pitching to Harang.

3-3 after 5.5.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
How much do we have to pay Doc. Scott to be required to do all P-B-P for the rest of the season?

You could buy me out of the job I'm supposed to be doing right now.

Chip R
07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
I feel like Bill Murray from Meatballs today. "It just doesn't matter!"

RichRed
07-24-2009, 05:04 PM
Fairly deep fly ball to right-center moves Edwin to third. Two outs.

George Grande: "Hanigan gets the job done."

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:06 PM
Bottom of 6. Thom is extolling the virtues of a UDF "peach shake" that he had "just the other night". Mmmm-hmmm.

Sorry. I don't hate you, Thom. I just wish you'd act like the Thom of the early 90s.

Aramis Ramirez homers. 4-3 Cubs.

oneupper
07-24-2009, 05:07 PM
Aramis launches one. 4-3 cubs. Blech.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:07 PM
If Harang ends up being responsible for every Reds' run today, that should be a very strong signal to Jocketty and Castellini that it's time to make some moves over the weekend.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:08 PM
Gamesmaster falls behind 0-2 on a couple of fouls. Count eventually evens. Line-drive single to center.

traderumor
07-24-2009, 05:09 PM
I think it is time for the Reds to explore a different way to pitch to Ramirez. Their gameplan to date isn't working.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:11 PM
Announcers calling out Harang's decreased velocity.

Flare to right-center from Soriano drops in. Now Bradley is getting the Thom Thrashing for bad baserunning.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:11 PM
Wait wait wait..... they are just NOW getting the bullpen ready?????

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:12 PM
Danny Ray Herrera getting ready in a hurry in the Reds' pen.

Fontenot steps in.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:12 PM
Here we go...

I'm predicting a 4-run inning for the Cubbies.

(dangit...I didn't want to get negative today but it's Friday and I'm going with it. :D)

durl
07-24-2009, 05:13 PM
Wait wait wait..... they are just NOW getting the bullpen ready?????

They can't take Harang out. He's the only guy who can score against the Cubs today. We need his bat.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:16 PM
Aaron gets ahead of Fontenot 1-2. Some fouls. More fouls. Ball two. Finally he flies out to right, one down.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Koyie Hill up. He gets ahead of Harang 3-1. Aaron at 110 pitches. Swing and a miss, full count. Clocked at 93. Gameday says 92.

Walked him. Crap.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Walked a guy hitting .202. Wunnnnnnderful.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:20 PM
Randy Wells taken down for pinch-hitter Micah Hoffpauir.

DICK POLE TO THE MOUND. POLE.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 05:21 PM
Hoffpauir has done almost all of his damage this season against right handed pitching.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:21 PM
Hoffpauir is a left-handed hitter, yet Harang is staying in. At 112 pitches.

Pitch #113 is a called strike. Pitch #114 is fouled off. Harang is really reaching back. Pitch #115 is swung on and missed. Whoa. Three fastballs and see you later.

Two down.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:22 PM
Dustly leaves Harang in to face Fukudome despite the fact he's hitting .160 vs. lefties.

VR
07-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Dustly leaves Harang in to face Fukudome despite the fact he's hitting .160 vs. lefties.

Gotta get his ace a chance for a W here, Homer, what are you thinking?

CTA513
07-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Good job by Harang to get out of the inning without giving up anymore runs.

Doc. Scott
07-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Now Fukudome, who's hitting .160 against lefties in all of 25 at-bats, is going to face a stayin'-in-there Harang. Seriously, Dusty.

First pitch swung on and missed. Fastball up and in. Fastball high. Bouncer to Phillips and the inning ends.

Can't believe. A terrible decision that worked out. Doesn't make it right.

4-3 Cubs after 6.

klw
07-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Now do you PH for Harang to start the inning or do you leave his bat in there?

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Now Fukudome, who's hitting .160 against lefties in all of 25 at-bats, is going to face a stayin'-in-there Harang. Seriously, Dusty.

First pitch swung on and missed. Fastball up and in. Fastball high. Bouncer to Phillips and the inning ends.

Can't believe. A terrible decision that worked out. Doesn't make it right.

4-3 Cubs after 6.

Dusty does what Dusty wants. Not what makes sense. Relies on luck and sometimes gets lucky. We've been burned by his bullpen management many a time this year though.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Now do you PH for Harang to start the inning or do you leave his bat in there?

Rosales to pinch hit for the Reds slugger.

oneupper
07-24-2009, 05:27 PM
Cubs don't deserve to win after leaving the bases juiced.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:30 PM
I'm perfectly OK that my prediction failed.

Hopefully, the other 8 guys in the Reds lineup today can manage 1-2 runs.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 05:31 PM
I'm perfectly OK that my prediction failed.

Hopefully, the other 8 guys in the Reds lineup today can manage 1-2 runs.

Thats asking for a lot.

HeatherC1212
07-24-2009, 05:32 PM
Joey is going yard in the next inning. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :D

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:45 PM
Votto will walk and Phillips will hit into a DP or strikeout.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:45 PM
The strike call on Votto was 1 foot outside.

Hoosier Red
07-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Gameday showed the first called strike to be inches from hitting the moose.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Man...gameday has that called strike against Votto WAY outside the box.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Votto swung at ball 4.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 05:46 PM
The strike call on Votto was 1 foot outside.

Harang could have used some of those pitches called strikes.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Now he strikes out. Unreal.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:47 PM
Awesome AB from Phillips.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:48 PM
That at bat by Phillips right there tells me this organization does absolutely zero coaching. Zero. Jacoby and Baker absolutely have to go.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:48 PM
Someone please research the results when Phillips swings at the first pitch. It seems as though he either misses or makes an out 95% of the time.

IslandRed
07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
That at bat by Phillips right there tells me this organization does absolutely zero coaching. Zero. Jacoby and Baker absolutely have to go.

You can lead horses to water...

traderumor
07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
That at bat by Phillips right there tells me this organization does absolutely zero coaching. Zero. Jacoby and Baker absolutely have to go.Phillips is what he is. He has actually improved this year overall in plate discipline. But, as I listen to Thom rant, he must just be coming to terms that the Reds lineup is full of bad hitters.

HeatherC1212
07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
I hate when I'm wrong. :bang:

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:49 PM
The Reds should be getting shut out.

durl
07-24-2009, 05:51 PM
3 up and 3 down. The side is gone and Gameday shows 3 of 13 pitches within the strike zone.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:53 PM
The pitching has been awful lately too.

This team is just awful.

edabbs44
07-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Someone please research the results when Phillips swings at the first pitch. It seems as though he either misses or makes an out 95% of the time.

After Phillips has an 0-1 count he has a .770 OPS.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:53 PM
3 up and 3 down. The side is gone and Gameday shows 3 of 13 pitches within the strike zone.

Cincinnati Reds. That post describes them. But who cares about OBP, right Dusty?

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Herrerra isn't nearly as good as we'd like to think. WHIP over 1.50.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 05:55 PM
Herrerra isn't nearly as good as we'd like to think. WHIP over 1.50.
Neither is Masset.

nate
07-24-2009, 05:56 PM
Someone please research the results when Phillips swings at the first pitch. It seems as though he either misses or makes an out 95% of the time.

Here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=phillbr01&year=Career&t=b#count). He's actually been quite successful doing that throughout his career.


I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+
First Pitch 330 417 400 140 23 5 16 70 25 3 0 0 .350 .352 .553 .905 221 13 4 8 5 0 9 .319 141
1-0 Count 185 207 200 59 18 0 10 41 14 11 0 0 .295 .298 .535 .833 107 17 2 2 3 0 3 .254 120
2-0 Count 61 65 65 21 3 1 1 10 7 2 0 0 .323 .323 .446 .769 29 2 0 0 0 0 2 .313 107
3-0 Count 38 42 7 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 35 0 .143 .857 .286 1.143 2 0 0 0 0 15 0 .143 241
0-1 Count 225 258 248 81 11 1 9 38 9 4 0 0 .327 .339 .488 .826 121 5 5 4 1 0 3 .300 122
1-1 Count 205 241 234 78 16 5 20 44 12 4 0 0 .333 .344 .701 1.045 164 11 5 0 2 0 4 .269 173
2-1 Count 104 112 108 33 7 1 6 22 4 1 0 0 .306 .304 .556 .859 60 2 1 0 3 0 3 .257 127
3-1 Count 82 85 40 12 2 0 4 8 3 1 44 0 .300 .659 .650 1.309 26 1 0 0 1 1 0 .216 262
0-2 Count 222 259 254 41 5 1 2 16 7 3 0 116 .161 .174 .213 .386 54 3 4 0 1 0 2 .285 5
1-2 Count 326 416 407 71 9 0 8 30 7 1 0 138 .174 .185 .256 .441 104 13 6 0 3 0 4 .239 19
2-2 Count 291 362 356 85 14 4 9 44 7 2 0 107 .239 .240 .376 .617 134 13 2 0 4 0 4 .311 64
Full Count 226 265 183 36 7 1 3 23 3 2 79 58 .197 .438 .295 .733 54 3 1 0 2 0 1 .266 109
After 1-0 545 964 836 213 49 4 33 126 111 118 .255 .343 .441 .784 369 37 6 2 9 15 10 .259 112
After 2-0 239 294 211 60 15 2 8 39 79 22 .284 .476 .488 .964 103 5 1 0 3 15 3 .283 166
After 3-0 82 91 34 9 3 0 1 9 55 5 .265 .703 .441 1.144 15 0 0 0 2 15 0 .267 228
After 0-1 611 1348 1266 305 44 10 39 152 47 301 .241 .277 .384 .661 486 33 20 4 11 1 16 .284 78
After 1-1 527 954 870 213 35 10 38 112 65 179 .245 .303 .439 .742 382 32 11 0 8 1 13 .265 99
After 2-1 335 438 364 86 16 3 17 54 67 70 .236 .356 .437 .793 159 13 3 0 4 1 4 .246 116
After 3-1 148 162 95 22 4 1 4 13 65 14 .232 .537 .421 .958 40 2 0 0 2 1 0 .228 170
After 0-2 422 599 573 105 14 1 7 48 14 218 .183 .210 .248 .458 142 11 7 0 5 0 4 .278 25
After 1-2 475 753 703 143 21 3 12 66 36 228 .203 .247 .293 .540 206 19 7 0 7 0 8 .279 47
After 2-2 401 550 484 111 19 4 12 62 58 151 .229 .313 .360 .672 174 15 3 0 5 0 5 .304 84
Three Balls 313 392 230 49 10 1 7 33 6 3 158 58 .213 .531 .357 .887 82 4 1 0 3 16 1 .250 153
Two Strikes 612 1302 1200 233 35 6 22 113 24 8 79 419 .194 .250 .288 .538 346 32 13 0 10 0 11 .274 47

CTA513
07-24-2009, 06:02 PM
6-3 Cubs as Gonzalez can't get to a ball hit up the middle.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:02 PM
This game is ovah.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 06:04 PM
This game is ovah.

Its been over for a while.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 06:04 PM
This game has been ovah for a while.

Fixed.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Maybe Burton will cry some more next time he gets sent to AAA.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Maybe Burton will cry some more next time he gets sent to AAA.

AAA? He fits right in with the major league club.

durl
07-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Goodnight folks. This trip to the cellar just keeps getting better.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:09 PM
What the hell is Gomes swinging at?

YOU'RE DOWN BY 5 RUNS.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 06:11 PM
Hanigan just keeps on hitting in the bottom of the lineup. Dusty needs to continue to get him as few PA's as possible by keeping him there.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:12 PM
This has to be the dumbest baseball team in history, at any level.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:13 PM
I literally can not watch this garbage anymore.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:15 PM
Dickerson swings at ball 4.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Dickerson saw 8 pitches that AB.
The other guys saw 7.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 06:16 PM
I literally can not watch this garbage anymore.


Dickerson swings at ball 4.

How do you know if you aren't watching? :D

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:17 PM
Votto up as the tying run...

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 06:17 PM
Haha the tying run is at the plate.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:17 PM
COME ON JOEY. Please.

CTA513
07-24-2009, 06:17 PM
The Reds need to get Burton checked out.
Hes lost velocity and pitched pretty horrible ever since his injury last season and if hes not injured then keep him in AAA.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:18 PM
That was a ball.

Puig Your Red
07-24-2009, 06:18 PM
Votto is trying to hit the ball into Lake Michigan.

Homer Bailey
07-24-2009, 06:20 PM
Reds lose but I win.

oneupper
07-24-2009, 06:25 PM
Joey has been complaining about balls and strikes a lot. Like the first pitch of that AB.

Umps will retaliate by calling borderline (or not so borderline)pitches on grumpy batsmen.

Like the last pitch of that AB.

SirFelixCat
07-24-2009, 06:25 PM
LOL @ this offense and Burton.

Just LOL!

WVRedsFan
07-24-2009, 06:33 PM
I've always thought a good at-bat was 4 pitches at least. Today only 4 Reds averaged seeing 4 or more pitches in an at-bat - Dickerson, Votto, Encarnacion, and Harang (in his one at-bat). The others:

Traveras - 17 - avg of 3.4
Phillips - 9 - avg 2.2
Gomes - 5 - 3.0
Gonzo - 10 - 2.5
Hanigan - 13 - 3.2 (note that he got three hits)

That's not the entire problem, but plays a part in it. This offense is horrible. The pitching is getting worse, and no moves are made. I guess they've given up and taken many Reds fans with them.

Ltlabner
07-24-2009, 07:44 PM
Most of the Reds runs today were produced by the offensive juggernaut of Aaron Harang.

Say that out loud and think about it the next time someone says the pitching is the problem with this team.

Big Klu
07-24-2009, 10:13 PM
Jim Kelch on the FSN TV broadcast. Interesting.


Thom's doing radio. That is interesting they would have Kelch on TV and not Thom.


Kelch is doing a great job today. He and Welsh sound great together. A nice break from the same 'ole same 'ole.

I thought Jim Kelch did an outstanding job on the TV side. He and Chris Welsh really worked well together. Maybe we have found a worthy successor to Uncle George.






...HARANG HITS A THREE-RUN HOME RUN. HOLY CRAP.

3-1 Reds.


Just as I predicted!


I was just thinking...."wouldn't it be ironic if Harang hit a bomb".....

I was thinking the same thing. In fact, two pitches before Aaron hit it, I said, "Ya know, that big ol' hoss is gonna get lucky some time and swing where the ball is, and he's gonna jack one!" And the very same AB, he did it!






lol Someone was getting very excited in the booth

Chris reminded me of Nux with his excited cheering in the background.

I miss Joe. :(

Raisor
07-24-2009, 10:50 PM
The Cubs signed Kevin Sullivan?

I'm just catching up with the game thread, but I must say "well played, sir".

http://www.steelcagematch.com/images/wrestlers/Kevin-Sullivan01.jpg

Raisor
07-24-2009, 10:57 PM
I feel like Bill Murray from Meatballs today. "It just doesn't matter!"

"It doesn't matter anyway because the best looking girls will go out with them because they have all the money".

Ron Madden
07-25-2009, 05:25 AM
EE screws up on the bases again. Gets himself out at the plate on an infield grounder.

Reds baseball is so much more enjoyable when you bet against them. This is flat out hysterical.

Thom Brennamen describes the way I feel perfectly almost every time.

Edwin was most likely going on contact it was a possible doubleplay ball.

Sometimes it's worth a shot, even if the runner is thrown out at the plate you still have runners at first and second with two outs and a chance to keep the inning going, where a doubleplay ends the inning and any chance of scoreing more runs that inning.

Ron Madden
07-25-2009, 05:35 AM
You think I should start a thread wondering if Harang should get some time in the outfield so we can get his bat into the lineup? ;)


If you do, I think you should post it at Reds.com, I'm sure it would spark an interesting discussion. ;)

Ron Madden
07-25-2009, 05:40 AM
In a series maybe.

Welllllll... maybe.

Ron Madden
07-25-2009, 05:48 AM
Ramirez rips a 1-2 pitch into right for a game-tying single.


Everyone but Dusty Baker and Dick Pole saw that comming.

Ron Madden
07-25-2009, 05:57 AM
If I'm counting correctly, Reds' pitchers have allowed the opponent to score in 10 of the past 19 innings--or 52%.

Meanwhile, the Reds have scored in 6 of the past 22--or 27%


If that doesn't scare ya, you aint afraid of nuthin.

GAC
07-25-2009, 10:19 AM
Most of the Reds runs today were produced by the offensive juggernaut of Aaron Harang.

Say that out loud and think about it the next time someone says the pitching is the problem with this team.

While the pitching certainly has not been helping itself - after all, Harang is 0-7 with a 5.17 ERA in his last 11 starts and has not won since May 25 - this offense is such a joy to watch. :rolleyes:

LincolnparkRed
07-25-2009, 10:31 AM
Edwin was most likely going on contact it was a possible doubleplay ball.

Sometimes it's worth a shot, even if the runner is thrown out at the plate you still have runners at first and second with two outs and a chance to keep the inning going, where a doubleplay ends the inning and any chance of scoreing more runs that inning.

He didn't commit to going though, the throw was high and up the line, so if he committed it at least could have been a play at the plate

Matt700wlw
07-26-2009, 03:54 AM
I miss Joe. :(

I do too

WVRedsFan
07-26-2009, 04:11 AM
I do too

All of us do.

Added to that sadness is that the enthusiasm that Joe showed is nowhere to be found. Marty (and I love Marty) told it like it was today. The team is simply horrible. Jeff has stated the same things. Even Chris Welsh went on a tirade the other night. It seems that everyone sees the problems but the management and field management. You have to wonder where Joe would come down on these things. Would he be as enthusiastic? I sincerely doubt it. This is such a mess that even Joe would have had problems with it. And so it goes.

someday...