Teams you thoroughly despise

[WVRed]

Hopefully this doesn't go down a bashing road, but the other thread got me thinking.

MLB: Chicago Cubs and St Louis Cardinals
NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, and Baltimore Ravens
NCAA F: Ohio State, Tennessee
NCAA B: Louisville, Tennessee, Florida

Also moving up the list in college is West Virginia, especially in football. You would think the Mountaineers were world beaters during the days of Rich Rodriguez.

[Reds4Life]

NFL: Steelers
NCAA F: Ohio State
NCAA B: Kentucky

The Ohio State and UK dislike isn't really for the programs, mostly their "fans". The Steelers.....I dispise everything about them.

[George Anderson]

NFL: Patriots

NCAA BB: Kentucky and Purdue

MLB: Cubs (their fans anyway)

[Playadlc]

MLB - Cubs
NFL - Steelers
NCAA F - Purdue and OSU
NCAA B - Purdue, UK, Illinois and UofL

[Eric_the_Red]

NFL - Steelers, Patriots (mostly for Belichek), Cowboys
MLB - Cubs, Yankees

[bucksfan2]

MLB: Yankees, Mets, and non-Chicagoan Cubs fans.
NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers, Dallas Cowboys, NY Giants
NCAA F: Florida, Alabama, ND
NCAA B: Duke, UNC, UK

More than anything anymore I dislike coaches.

[Degenerate39]

Steelers and Cubs

[RichRed]

Cowboys, Steelers and Cubs.

[Eric_the_Red]

I sense a trend. :)

[BuckeyeRed27]

Michigan, Cubs, Steelers, Lakers
USC annoys me although I wouldn't go despise...I just think they have bad fans

[improbus]

NFL: Steelers. Their fans tend to think that they are the reason they win and really, they have the best owner in sports. Switch owners with Mike Brown and see how good they are.
NCAAF: Florida State - They just rub me the wrong way. Maybe it's the tomahwk chop...
NCAAB: I would say Duke, but that is just jealousy and hatred of just one guy. So I will go with Miami, OH. Wally makes me want to throw up (but I respect the heck out of Coles.)
NHL: Red Wings (jealousy)
NBA: Lakers (jealousy)
MLB: Astros and Cardinals: Bagwell, Biggio and Oswalt make we want to scream and Cardinals fans are the most overrated group in all of sports (watch the 2004 WS and listen to the crickets.)
Soccer: DC United (jealousy), ManU (jealousy), England (because of obnoxious fans).
Tennis: Federer (jealousy)
Golf: Mickelson (he seems like the biggest phoney in sports)
NASCAR: Junior. Uber-nepotism
High School Sports: Elder (and I didn't even go to La Salle, but I've been trained well), St. Francis DeSales

[Scrap Irony]

Interesting that most of the teams despised are remarkably successful, aside from the Cubs. It also tells you how irritating Cub fans can be.

[jimbo]

MLB: Cubs and Yankees
NCAA F: All Florida teams, Michigan
NCAA B: Xavier
NFL: Steelers

[macro]

Mine have changed over the years, as certain coaches and players come and go. In the 70s I hated the Raiders, Dodgers, and Yankees. In the 80s it was the 49ers. In the 90s it was the Braves and Duke. Today it's the Patriots because of Belichek.

But if we're talking just about teams, regardless of who they have playing for them or coaching them, I have despised the Steelers and North Carolina in every decade that I've been old enough to be a sports fan.

[redhawkfish]

Ohio University
Baltimore Ravens
LA Dodgers

[paintmered]

College: Louisville, Pitt, Miami (ditto on Charlie Coles being a total class act), Xavier, Notre Dame
MLB: Cubs, Cardinals, Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Braves, Dodgers
NFL: Pittsburgh, Dallas, New England, Rex Ryan.

[improbus]

Ohio University


As an OU alum, I'd like to say that I respectfully despise you to.;)

[reds1869]

MLB: Cubs
NFL: Steelers
NCAA: WVU, Dayton and Cincinnati

[11larkin11]

MLB: Cubs, Sox/Yanks, Cards
NFL: Steelers, Ravens, not-so-much Bengals
NCAA: scUM, Florida, and a new found one this year, UC

[Joseph]

MLB: Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox
NFL: Steelers, Ravens, Patriots
NHL: Redwings
NBA: None really, I can't be bothered to care enough.
NCAA: Ohio State. Its just Ohio State you.....nm.

[Betterread]

I wouldn't say I despise them, but I when the Packers lose, I typically feel a short jolt of joy.

[Danny Serafini]

MLB: Cubs/Dodgers
NFL: Browns/Steelers/Patriots
NBA: nobody I'm really worked up enough about to hate
NHL: Red Wings/Devils
NCAA: Michigan/Georgetown/Bowling Green/Notre Dame/Central Florida/Louisiana Tech

[HoosierRedsFan]

MLB: Cubs and Red Sox
NFL: Patriots, Chargers, Bears, Jaguars, Bengals
NBA: Yes I am from Indiana (born and raised) and I hate basketball
NHL: Not a big hockey fan
NCAA: ND

[dabvu2498]

NY Yankees, Tennessee Vols, Pittsburgh Steelers.

End of list.

[Redsfan320]

MLB: Yankees, Cubs
NFL: Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys
NBA: Lakers (Kobe)

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[Redsfan320]

MLB: Yankees, Cubs
NFL: Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys
NBA: Lakers (Kobe)

Sorry about the double post!

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[Yachtzee]

When I was younger, I used to get into sports to the degree where I despised certain teams just because my team had a rivalry with them. These days I've tried to keep things on the friendly rivalry level because it brings less stress in my life. However, I still reserve my strongest dislike for certain teams in certain sports. Number one on the list are the Pittsburgh Steelers. While most people rever and respect the Rooney family and the team they put on the field, I've always felt there has been a certain degree of arrogant classlessness displayed by the players and the fans of that team. While I don't include certain well spoken Redszone Steelers fans in that group, I'd say it is completely impossible to carry on a civil discussion on football with a good percentage of their fans.

#2 would be the Yankees. Yankees fans don't get me as riled up as Steelers fans and I have some good friends who are dyed-in-the-wool Yankees fans. My original dislike for them stems from growing up in Ohio at a time when the Reds faced them in the World Series and the Indians would get pounded by them on a regular basis. Today, I just don't like how they abuse the current market situation in baseball to buy up just about any major free agent they have an interest in. That and they're on TV all the time. For those who say a successful pro sports league needs a dominant team in the NY market, I would answer that the focus of major media on the NY-Boston markets has really curtailed interest in baseball for a lot of us in the Midwest.

#3 is Italy in International Soccer. I just can't abide by the style of play they tend to resort to in the World Cup.

[WVRed]

Forgot the NBA, even though I never really followed except for the Celtics occasionally, I would put the Lakers up there just because of Kobe, the fans, and Jack Nicholson.

I've seen Charlie Coles mentioned twice in this thread. This has honestly become one of my favorite videos. Absolutely loved his response in this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnilJdwyPRs

[dabvu2498]

I've seen Coles at a couple speaking engagements he's done. The man is nuts. In a good way.

I've also heard a story about an incident after a bad loss between Coles and Herb Sendek, when Coles was an assistant at Miami. Maybe the funniest story ever, but no way I can repeat it here.

Coles is one of a kind.

[Red in Chicago]

every team other than the reds

[Kingspoint]

The Fakers once Jerry West left the organization. All respect for them left with him.

Phil Jackson, though he's not a team.

The Pittspuke Squealers.

The Yankees for a billion reasons.

All sports personnel who seem to be wearing a T-shirt that points up with the words, "I'm with Stupid".

Major Florida Universities' Football programs.

[Kingspoint]

MLB: Yankees, Cubs
NFL: Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys
NBA: Lakers (Kobe)

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I like the list, but how does one "hate" the Cubs, when it's so easy to "pity" them.

Naturally, I despise Mike Brown and his whole family (except his dad, but I hate his dad for leaving him in charge).

The Cincinnati City Council for brokering the deal that gave Mike Brown carte blanche over Paul Brown stadium. Every one of those City Councilors should go to jail and be fined $250K.

[OnBaseMachine]

Chicago Cubs and Notre Dame.

[Reds Fanatic]

Steelers
Cubs
Michigan

[Tommyjohn25]

Cubs, Cardinals, Yankees, Brewers in MLB.

Patriots, Ravens, Cowboys, Bengals in NFL.

[TeamSelig]

NFL: Steelers, Patriots
NCAA FB: tOSU
NCAA BB: IU (not so bad considering they are horrible at the moment)
NBA: Celtics (can't stand Garnett/Pierce)
MLB: Cubs, Cards

[Redsfaithful]

The Steelers and Michigan, I feel minor dislike towards the Cubs, but the Reds need to be good again before I can work up a good hate towards any other teams.

[cumberlandreds]

These are teams I find very easy to root against.

NFL: Washington Redskins, see my post on favorite teams to see why

College sports: Tennessee,Louisville,Duke,North Carolina

MLB: Yankees and Dodgers Even though the rivlary is dead between the Reds and Dodgers I still cannot ever root for them

[Redsfan320]

how does one "hate" the Cubs, when it's so easy to "pity" them.

:lol: Nice one!

I manage to do both!

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[durl]

MLB: Yankees, Braves
NFL: Colts
NCAA F: Tennessee, Louisville
NCAA B: Indiana, Tennessee, Florida, Louisville, Duke, UNC

[Mario-Rijo]

I don't know if despise is the right word, I tend to only despise certain teams fans (only the smartellic, braggin' types) and specific players. That said Brian Billick and his former team the Ravens used to just rub me the wrong way and so I still despise them more than any other. Interestingly enough that leads into another strong distaste I have for a college team The "U".

NFL - Baltimore, Browns fans (RZ browns fans aside, that I'm aware of)
NCAAF - The "U"
MLB - The Cubs fans
NBA - Knicks, Pistons (yeah I'm a Bulls fan)

Strong dislike:
NFL - Patriots, Cleveland
NCAAF - USC, Gators, Michigan and any team coached by Nick Saban, and generally speaking any team (teams fans) showing disrespect to my own team.
NCAAB - Duke
NBA - Lakers
MLB - Dodgers, Braves

Don't care for 'cause they are a pain but respect their organizations:
St. Louis Cardinals and Pittsburgh Steelers

[BRM]

MLB: Cubs, Red Sox
NFL: Patriots, Cowboys, Broncos
NBA: Lakers
NCAA FB: USC, tOSU, Purdue
NCAA BB: Kentucky, Purdue

[Jack Burton]

MLB: Cubs, Red Sox
NBA: Lakers, Bulls (not much to dislike since Jordan left)
NFL: Patriots, Packers

[goreds2]

Cubs, Michigan Wolverines, Patroits, Ravens.

[KronoRed]

The favorite teams of everyone who loaths Florida :p: Except the Reds of course ;)

Others, the entire American League, Cubs, Braves, Giants.

[Kingspoint]

The favorite teams of everyone who loaths Florida



As Kevin might say, "They've got hot babes".

[RollyInRaleigh]

West Virginia University

[WVRed]

West Virginia University

Interesting...

I posted this in mine, but WVU is moving slowly up my list. Some of it has to do with the treatment of Marshall, but mostly the fans acting like world beaters.

Saw this today actually:


Dear God, this past year you have taken my favorite actor in Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress in Farah Fawcett, my favorite singer in Michael Jackson, and my favorite spokesperson in Billy Mays. I just wanted you to know that my favorite coach is Rich Rodriguez.

[Redlegs212]

NFL: Steelers, Cowboys
NCAA FB: OSU, WVU
NCAA BB: Xavier, OSU
NBA: Lakers
MLB: Cubs, Cards, Yankees

[Redsfan320]

the entire American League,

Yeah, I hate the DH, but the League's not all bad.

My AL favorites would be the Twins, Rangers, and Rays.

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[Dom Heffner]

Steelers and Yankees.

And all college football teams.

[PedroBourbon]

Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees, Duke, and UNC. Those are the only ones that I harbor real resentment for. Univ Tennessee football is up there.

Kinda shocked at all the KY Wildcat haters located in OH. I didn't think there was that much hate out there in Ohio since UK doesn't regularly play any OH teams and there are no SEC teams in OH. Was some of that due to this year's team? Calipari?

[BRM]

Kinda shocked at all the KY Wildcat haters located in OH. I didn't think there was that much hate out there in Ohio since UK doesn't regularly play any OH teams and there are no SEC teams in OH. Was some of that due to this year's team? Calipari?

I only saw two Ohio posters who listed UK. Unless I missed something. Actually, not many posters listed UK at all. I was expecting more.

[redsbuckeye]

I hate everything about the Cubs, to the point that I take pleasure in their losing. It's even better when they get close and lose in heartbreaking ways. I eat that up.

I used to hate the Yankees, but for whatever reason it's turned to a general apathy. Now more I just hate Jeter honks.

Speaking of, I hate fans who are conference honks, like people who say any team from their conference would go undefeated in any other conference. But that's more just a despise of fans.

I also hate bandwagon fans, people who just like success who have a tenuous (at best) link to the teams they like. I tend to hate those teams that attract fans like this such as the Patriots.

[Sea Ray]

I honestly don't despise any sports teams. I left such issues with my younger years.

[Sea Ray]

NCAA BB: IU (not so bad considering they are horrible at the moment)



I wouldn't say horrible. They've been OK this year...at least respectable

[WVRed]

Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees, Duke, and UNC. Those are the only ones that I harbor real resentment for. Univ Tennessee football is up there.

Kinda shocked at all the KY Wildcat haters located in OH. I didn't think there was that much hate out there in Ohio since UK doesn't regularly play any OH teams and there are no SEC teams in OH. Was some of that due to this year's team? Calipari?

I'm a UK fan, but I can probably answer this.

Outside of Kentucky, most UK fans are perceived as crazy and obnoxious, in large part due to the history of the program. Running off a coach that was well respected and then firing his replacement after two seasons should be a testament to that. If UK fans get into an argument over how their team was doing in the prior years, it would be normal to bring up about how many national championships UK had. When you rely solely on tradition, you tend to alienate a lot of people. It's just like Notre Dame in football. Has not been relevant for some time, but the fans will still bring up their pride and tradition.

Of course, Kentucky has always been viewed as a shady program since the days of Adolph Rupp. The point shaving scandal during the 50's. Eddie Sutton's Emery Worldwide scandal during the 80's that almost landed us the death penalty, and the hiring of John Calipari who has already had two final fours vacated in his other two stops.

Basically, it's a combination of the fans, history, and the overall black cloud around the program.

[TeamSelig]

I wouldn't say horrible. They've been OK this year...at least respectable

Yeah. Just when they start really packing on the wins and showing some upside, it's all I hear about here in SE Indiana. Times like now... I am enjoying the peace and quiet. (for the time being, I don't think it will be very much longer)

[Scrap Irony]

I'm a UK fan, but I can probably answer this...

Basically, it's a combination of the fans, history, and the overall black cloud around the program.

I tolerate Kentucky and can definately explain why they're "hated" around the country.

1) Kentucky fans, despite their reputation, are largely ignorant about the sport, its history, and other programs. They insist UK is the greatest team year after year in the face of facts, proof, and evidence.

When the Cats lose, it's largely the fault of officials or blind luck. This goes beyond the typical childish mannerisms of most fanatics and crosses over into sheer stupidity. For example, I once went to a student's house to discuss his behavior with his father. When I arrived at the trailer, I had to step over a two-foot section of bare floor into the house. But in the living room, side by side, were two 65-inch big screen televisions, one of which had a hole in the middle of it. When I asked, the father shrugged and said, "Bad call on Magloire.")

Too, I've never seen fans of a team with such poor grammar and rhetoric skills. If you make a valid point on a Kentucky site wherein someone on the team or coaching staff is criticized (even slightly), you're immediately blackballed or expelled from the site, along with a variety of insulting epithets flung at your back for good measure (though, to be fair, most of them are misspelled or so poorly written they become garbled beyond recognition). In person, Kentucky fans are arrogant (for little personal reason) and insist-- my personal pet peeve-- on calling the team "we" (like they ever played the game of basketball or could spell it without serious help from the dictionary).

So yeah, poor fans.

2) That said...
Kentucky has been good for so long that they're better than all other teams almost all the time. Al Macguire said, "They had it before you, they have it now, and they'll have it after you." They've won more games at a higher rate and with more NCAA wins than anyone. Twist that any way you like, they're the best program in the history of the game.

That tends to make fans of other teams nuts. Consistently great teams beating your favorite team year after year after year makes people slightly angry. Not only that, Kentucky is a fairly arrogant program. Other programs put up banners for Final Fours or Sweet Sixteens. Other programs retire numbers. UK only puts up banners for championships and the very best of the best.

To butcher a phrase from George Strait, they've been so good for so long and other teams just want them to go away.

Which leads to...
3) Kentucky cheats. They've been caught (and suspected) virtually from the beginning of the game. In the 1950's, Kentucky kids (All-Americans Beard and Groza) got caught shaving points in New York. From that point forward, it seemed as if every whiff of possible problems with the NCAA was assumed guilty. Bill Spivey never cheated, but was accused endlessly without proof; his career was ruined because of it. The Cats also were suspected in the 70's (largely because their hometown newspaper won Pulitzer after Pulitzer looking for mud), but it was never proven. In the 80's, Emery Freight assured the world of Kentucky's guilt throughout the ages. And now, because of Calipari, they're guilty again.

Speaking of coaches, their greatest coach is gleefully called a racist by those that should know better. (The most anyone can argue against Rupp is that he wasn't willing to be a leader in integration in the South when he should have been. But he did play black kids as a coach in high school in Kansas in the 1920s and his first real recruit --i.e., going out of his way to ask a player to play for him-- was attempting to get Wes Unseld to Lexington.) He was unlucky enough to have lost to the first all-black starting lineup with an all-white starting lineup. (The year before, North Carolina was lilly white, but no one has ever accused the Tar Heels of racism.) This apparent racism was again "proven" when Tubby Smith was "fired" despite being "successful" (both claims that are ridiculous both on the surface and when studied).

Just imagine...
You're a fan of Utah which, historically, has had a very good program. You've been a Ute for years. Your best team since the early 40's has a real chance of winning a national championship. But you come across the Cats. Again. They've beaten you four years in a row. You decide to go to the game and see thousands of Kentucky fans proudly decked out in silly outfits, most of them ignorant and unnecessarily confrontational. You see your team lost a heartbreaker and hear a fan say something about Tubby winning with Pitino's players and how he wished "we still had Piniter".

All of that would be hard to take, but, later that decade, you watch the movie Glory Road and figure out that Rupp guy was a real craphead that deserved to lose to those nice boys from Texas Western. Not only that, Tubby was fired and Dick Vitale all but guaranteed the state of Kentucky was all but setting cross fires on his lawn because he hadn't been to a Final Four in ten years. (Which once again reminds you of how close you were to winning it all before Kentucky came along.) You also hear, through the local Lexington newpaper on the net, that the Cats are paying their best player so much he can afford to drive a brand new $50,000 vehicle to games and practice and the new $40 million practice facility on the UK campus.

All in all, a recipe for hatred if ever there was one.

[WMR]

I tolerate Kentucky and can definately explain why they're "hated" around the country.

1) Kentucky fans, despite their reputation, are largely ignorant about the sport, its history, and other programs. They insist UK is the greatest team year after year in the face of facts, proof, and evidence.

When the Cats lose, it's largely the fault of officials or blind luck. This goes beyond the typical childish mannerisms of most fanatics and crosses over into sheer stupidity. For example, I once went to a student's house to discuss his behavior with his father. When I arrived at the trailer, I had to step over a two-foot section of bare floor into the house. But in the living room, side by side, were two 65-inch big screen televisions, one of which had a hole in the middle of it. When I asked, the father shrugged and said, "Bad call on Magloire.")

Too, I've never seen fans of a team with such poor grammar and rhetoric skills. If you make a valid point on a Kentucky site wherein someone on the team or coaching staff is criticized (even slightly), you're immediately blackballed or expelled from the site, along with a variety of insulting epithets flung at your back for good measure (though, to be fair, most of them are misspelled or so poorly written they become garbled beyond recognition). In person, Kentucky fans are arrogant (for little personal reason) and insist-- my personal pet peeve-- on calling the team "we" (like they ever played the game of basketball or could spell it without serious help from the dictionary).

So yeah, poor fans.

2) That said...
Kentucky has been good for so long that they're better than all other teams almost all the time. Al Macguire said, "They had it before you, they have it now, and they'll have it after you." They've won more games at a higher rate and with more NCAA wins than anyone. Twist that any way you like, they're the best program in the history of the game.

That tends to make fans of other teams nuts. Consistently great teams beating your favorite team year after year after year makes people slightly angry. Not only that, Kentucky is a fairly arrogant program. Other programs put up banners for Final Fours or Sweet Sixteens. Other programs retire numbers. UK only puts up banners for championships and the very best of the best.

To butcher a phrase from George Strait, they've been so good for so long and other teams just want them to go away.

Which leads to...
3) Kentucky cheats. They've been caught (and suspected) virtually from the beginning of the game. In the 1950's, Kentucky kids (All-Americans Beard and Groza) got caught shaving points in New York. From that point forward, it seemed as if every whiff of possible problems with the NCAA was assumed guilty. Bill Spivey never cheated, but was accused endlessly without proof; his career was ruined because of it. The Cats also were suspected in the 70's (largely because their hometown newspaper won Pulitzer after Pulitzer looking for mud), but it was never proven. In the 80's, Emery Freight assured the world of Kentucky's guilt throughout the ages. And now, because of Calipari, they're guilty again.

Speaking of coaches, their greatest coach is gleefully called a racist by those that should know better. (The most anyone can argue against Rupp is that he wasn't willing to be a leader in integration in the South when he should have been. But he did play black kids as a coach in high school in Kansas in the 1920s and his first real recruit --i.e., going out of his way to ask a player to play for him-- was attempting to get Wes Unseld to Lexington.) He was unlucky enough to have lost to the first all-black starting lineup with an all-white starting lineup. (The year before, North Carolina was lilly white, but no one has ever accused the Tar Heels of racism.) This apparent racism was again "proven" when Tubby Smith was "fired" despite being "successful" (both claims that are ridiculous both on the surface and when studied).

Just imagine...
You're a fan of Utah which, historically, has had a very good program. You've been a Ute for years. Your best team since the early 40's has a real chance of winning a national championship. But you come across the Cats. Again. They've beaten you four years in a row. You decide to go to the game and see thousands of Kentucky fans proudly decked out in silly outfits, most of them ignorant and unnecessarily confrontational. You see your team lost a heartbreaker and hear a fan say something about Tubby winning with Pitino's players and how he wished "we still had Piniter".

All of that would be hard to take, but, later that decade, you watch the movie Glory Road and figure out that Rupp guy was a real craphead that deserved to lose to those nice boys from Texas Western. Not only that, Tubby was fired and Dick Vitale all but guaranteed the state of Kentucky was all but setting cross fires on his lawn because he hadn't been to a Final Four in ten years. (Which once again reminds you of how close you were to winning it all before Kentucky came along.) You also hear, through the local Lexington newpaper on the net, that the Cats are paying their best player so much he can afford to drive a brand new $50,000 vehicle to games and practice and the new $40 million practice facility on the UK campus.

All in all, a recipe for hatred if ever there was one.

Kentucky fans and their pathetic grammar and/or proofreading abilities. For shame. :lol: Maybe you're not better than all those people you just painted with your large, laughably incorrect brush after all. This is one of the most condescending, holier than thou art posts I've ever read, here or anywhere else on the entire internet.

[WVRed]

Too, I've never seen fans of a team with such poor grammar and rhetoric skills. If you make a valid point on a Kentucky site wherein someone on the team or coaching staff is criticized (even slightly), you're immediately blackballed or expelled from the site, along with a variety of insulting epithets flung at your back for good measure (though, to be fair, most of them are misspelled or so poorly written they become garbled beyond recognition). In person, Kentucky fans are arrogant (for little personal reason) and insist-- my personal pet peeve-- on calling the team "we" (like they ever played the game of basketball or could spell it without serious help from the dictionary).



Wouldn't be True Blue Kentucky would it? ;). Marc Maggard has a pretty quick trigger finger.

FWIW, I'm not sure what your experience has been on these sites, but college sports sites are not like Redszone. I would venture to say that is the same regardless of which team you pull for. There are recruits and players who do read the websites and message boards and it can have a very negative impact on the program as a whole. That is why those rules are in place. You can criticize, but do so constructively.

[WVRed]

Kentucky fans and their pathetic grammar and/or proofreading abilities. For shame. :lol: Maybe you're not better than all those people you just painted with your large, laughably incorrect brush after all. This is one of the most condescending, holier than thou art posts I've ever read, here or anywhere else on the entire internet.

I have to defend Scrap on this one. I bleed Kentucky blue but I can honestly see why fans of other teams hate the Wildcats. That post pretty much sums it up.

I would say I agree with 75% of it. Calling the team "we" is something that most everybody does though. Comb through enough posts here on Redszone and you might find several posters referring to the Reds as "we". I'm curious where "paying their best player" came from. Patterson?

[Scrap Irony]

According to Tipton, yeah.

(Of course, Tipton was told by Patterson's father that it was actually his truck, but the LHL reporter, following in a rich tradition of crapping on the local school, ignored it.)

[WMR]

I have to defend Scrap on this one. I bleed Kentucky blue but I can honestly see why fans of other teams hate the Wildcats. That post pretty much sums it up.

I would say I agree with 75% of it. Calling the team "we" is something that most everybody does though. Comb through enough posts here on Redszone and you might find several posters referring to the Reds as "we". I'm curious where "paying their best player" came from. Patterson?

His post basically paints the entire fan base as a collection of uneducated, rude idiots. Living in Kentucky, I wonder if his friends, co-workers, and neighbors who also happen to be UK fans are aware of how scornfully he views them?

I'm sorry, that post was xenophobic nonsense.

[reds1869]

My father-in-law is a lifelong UK fan and doesn't fit any of the stereotypes. When I went to the Marshall-UK game a few years ago, the Wildcat fans were extremely friendly and more knowledgeable than any I've encountered. I'm not a UK fan by any stretch, but I certainly respect their fans and traditions.

[WMR]

My father-in-law is a lifelong UK fan and doesn't fit any of the stereotypes. When I went to the Marshall-UK game a few years ago, the Wildcat fans were extremely friendly and more knowledgeable than any I've encountered. I'm not a UK fan by any stretch, but I certainly respect their fans and traditions.

Thanks for taking the time to post that. Classy post.

Most rival fans I know who have experienced Rupp Arena have raved about their experience.

[dabvu2498]

You have two types of UK fans. Let's call them:

1. "Kentucky Basketball Fan"

and

2. "Big Blue Fan"

Kentucky Basketball Fan is what fandom is supposed to be about. Following your team with shear joy when they win and understanding that they won't win all the time. Kentucky Basketball Fan watches games other than those participated in by UK and enjoys the sport as a whole. They respect their rivals and know that each dog has it's day in the sun. They understand that the UK program is not perfect.

Big Blue Fan calls the pregame show to ask how many minutes Richie Farmer/Patrick Sparks/JP Blevins/Cameron Mills/Landon Slone/Jon Hood are going to get tonight. And then goes crazy if they don't win by 40 and all the white, Kentucky-born kids don't score double figures. And yet, to them, the program is perfect. They don't watch other games. They didn't watch the NCAA tourney last year because UK wasn't in it.

Sadly, the voices of Big Blue Fans tend to be louder, particularly on the internets.

There are a few college programs that this sort of split tends to happen to. UK basketball, UT football and OSU football come to mind immediately.

All those programs have some great fans. But they sometimes get overshadowed by "Big Blue Fan," "Big Orange Fan," or "Buck Nut."

[Scrap Irony]

Kentucky fans and their pathetic grammar and/or proofreading abilities. For shame. :lol: Maybe you're not better than all those people you just painted with your large, laughably incorrect brush after all. This is one of the most condescending, holier than thou art posts I've ever read, here or anywhere else on the entire internet.

Thank you for making my point for me, WMR.

Then again, perhaps I'm just a "hater" like, well, anyone that disagrees with you about Kentucky?

[Yachtzee]

I would say I agree with 75% of it. Calling the team "we" is something that most everybody does though. Comb through enough posts here on Redszone and you might find several posters referring to the Reds as "we".

I have no problem with fans referring to their team using the "we" pronoun. If it weren't for the fans, there would be no team, or at least no team worth putting on TV night in and night out. There are fans out there who put a small fortune into following their teams, what with the costs of season tickets and PSLs, travel to postseason games, buying merchandise, concessions, dragging family and friends along. That has to count for something, right? Without fans, these teams would be comprised of amateurs dueling it out in some city park or dank gymnasium.

[Razor Shines]

Too, I've never seen fans of a team with such poor grammar and rhetoric skills. If you make a valid point on a Kentucky site wherein someone on the team or coaching staff is criticized (even slightly), you're immediately blackballed or expelled from the site, along with a variety of insulting epithets flung at your back for good measure (though, to be fair, most of them are misspelled or so poorly written they become garbled beyond recognition). In person, Kentucky fans are arrogant (for little personal reason) and insist-- my personal pet peeve-- on calling the team "we" (like they ever played the game of basketball or could spell it without serious help from the dictionary).



I lived between Louisville and Lexington for about two years and most of the friends I made were UK fans. I really can't think of any of them that would fit this discription. I know you're talking more about a "site", but from spending a lot of time in Lexington with UK fans, I just didn't see it. But I don't spend much time on UK message boards so maybe I'm wrong.

[Razor Shines]

I honestly don't despise any sports teams. I left such issues with my younger years.

This is where I am as well. I just don't get it. The closest I come is the Cubs, but that has more to do with their fans than anything. And that only comes from my wife being harassed in the Machine Room at GABP on two separate occasions at two different games when the Cubs were in town. The second one almost came to blows.

[deltachi8]

when i was younger i strongly disliked some teams, but life is too short.

[BigPoppa]

College football = Florida Gators
NFL = Dallas Cowboys
MLB = Chicago Cubs (fans)...........Marty was right :D

[reds1869]

I have no problem with fans referring to their team using the "we" pronoun. If it weren't for the fans, there would be no team, or at least no team worth putting on TV night in and night out. There are fans out there who put a small fortune into following their teams, what with the costs of season tickets and PSLs, travel to postseason games, buying merchandise, concessions, dragging family and friends along. That has to count for something, right? Without fans, these teams would be comprised of amateurs dueling it out in some city park or dank gymnasium.

Not to mention alums of a school have certainly earned the right to say "we."

[Eric_the_Red]

After the Bengals playoff loss, we were in the Newport garage heading to our car. Two guys in Kentucky gear came up to us by the elevators and were yelling (not talking, YELLING) at us that the Bengals are losers and that we should root for a real team like Kentucky.

Not saying all Kentucky fans are like this, but I've never had this happen with fans of any other team, pro or college.

[BRM]

I honestly don't despise any sports teams. I left such issues with my younger years.

I just listed teams that I root against because I don't really despise much of anything either. For example, I don't "hate" the Denver Broncos but I root against them regardless of who they are playing.

[reds1869]

I just listed teams that I root against because I don't really despise much of anything either. For example, I don't "hate" the Denver Broncos but I root against them regardless of who they are playing.

Same here...all in good fun.

[Jack Burton]

I have no problem with fans referring to their team using the "we" pronoun. If it weren't for the fans, there would be no team, or at least no team worth putting on TV night in and night out. There are fans out there who put a small fortune into following their teams, what with the costs of season tickets and PSLs, travel to postseason games, buying merchandise, concessions, dragging family and friends along. That has to count for something, right? Without fans, these teams would be comprised of amateurs dueling it out in some city park or dank gymnasium.
Great post, nail on the head IMO.

[GAC]

MLB: Dodgers, Yankees, Braves
NFL: Cowboys, Steelers
NCAA FB: any PAC-10 or Florida team

[Sea Ray]

MLB: Dodgers, Yankees, Braves
NFL: Cowboys, Steelers
NCAA FB: any PAC-10 or Florida team

What do you have against teams from Florida?

[ChazzReinhold]

I think this thread should be titled: "Fanbases you thoroughly despise" because if it weren't for the fans, I probably wouldn't hate some of these teams.

NCAA Football: OSU; Their football fans are unbearable. If you say ANYTHING negative about them, they want to get all up in that face and decapitate you for daring to suggest they are inferior in anyway. Major inferiority complex

NFL: Steelers: As a whole, absolute trash. Just obnoxious folks although I'll say they're barely, BARELY, more level-headed than OSU fans.

NCAA Basketball: UK fans. Holier than art thou crowd. Absolutely insane. They'll tell you they're passionate, but they cross that line over and over. They think they have a right to be NCAA champions every year and win at all costs. Examples: Last few years, they all railed against Calipari for being scum, saying he was a good coach, but he was scum and very dirty (which he is). Then when he becomes UK coach, they're now defending he's not scum. :lol:

MLB: Is there any question? Cubs fans.

[Chip R]

MLB - Cubs
NFL - Jets
NBA - Lakers
NCAAF - Notre Dame and Nebraska

Oh, and there is a thread about Kentucky basketball. That's fine if you want to put them down as one of the teams you hate but keep the discussion on the other thread.

[Roy Tucker]

Teams I despise (in a relative sports way, not like Hitler) waxes and wanes.

Its usually any opponent of the teams I root for. The more successful those teams are, the more I despise them. If they fall on hard times, I start to not feel as passionately hateful. And most big money teams I don't like.

Currently

MLB: Cubs, Yankees
NFL: Steelers, Jets
NBA: Celtics, Lakers
NCAAF: Michigan. And I think with Brian Kelly going to Notre Dame, they will become #2 with a bullet.

[will5979]

MLB:

1. Atlanta Braves-growing up with the bandwagoners and the 1995 NLCS left me with deep issues of hatred toward that team, I really HATE them.

2. Boston Red Sox-these little d0ucheb@g$ that know nothing of baseball wearing Red Sox hats because its a fashion statement makes me sick.

3. Chicago Cubs-no explanation necessary.

4. Cleveland Indians-family living there always talking about them rubbed me the wrong way, it would be winter and they would have on Indians gear.


NCAA

1. Pitt Panthers-I'm a WVU fan and can never get over 13-9

2. Syracuse-granted they've sucked this decade but I'll never forget their dirty play and the fight in 1992.

3. Louisville-classic games in 2005-2007.

4. Maryland-Good rivalry between our 2 schools.

5. Virginia Tech-doesn't really belong here considering as how we don't play them anymore but that rivalry was ten times more intense that the Backyard Brawl, I miss that game.

6. Marshall-I don't really hate them but their fans are annoying wanting a rivalry with WVU that doesn't exist and I wish they would just go away, they are a nuisance. Besides, is a rival that NEVER wins a rivalry at all? They are insignificant, a very unworthy opponent that doesn't belong on the same gridiron as the Old Gold and Blue.


NASCAR

1. Carl Edwards-he is the biggest sissy on that track, I remember his comments after his wreck at Dega last year basically blasting NASCAR for allowing drivers to race the way it was meant to be.

[Sea Ray]

NCAA Football: OSU; Their football fans are unbearable. If you say ANYTHING negative about them, they want to get all up in that face and decapitate you for daring to suggest they are inferior in anyway. Major inferiority complex




Oh yeah?

We sure haven't seen that around here...:cool:

[hebroncougar]

MLB: Cubs, Yankees
NFL: Ravens, Steelers
NBA: The whole league
NCAA: Ohio State

[will5979]

NCAA Football: OSU; Their football fans are unbearable. If you say ANYTHING negative about them, they want to get all up in that face and decapitate you for daring to suggest they are inferior in anyway. Major inferiority complex.

I have nothing against OSU, however when I try to watch a MNF game and the players introduce themselves along with their college it gets VERY annoying when they say "THE Ohio State University." If they are trying to make sure that everyone knows they are teh dominant team in Ohio and not the Bobcats then man, they've got problems!

[BigPoppa]

NASCAR

1. Carl Edwards-he is the biggest sissy on that track, I remember his comments after his wreck at Dega last year basically blasting NASCAR for allowing drivers to race the way it was meant to be.


oh...........well, if we're doing NASCAR too, I cannot stand either of the Busch brothers. I didn't like Jimmy Spencer, but I loved it when he poked Kurt Busch in the beak that time. Awesome !!

[WVRed]

6. Marshall-I don't really hate them but their fans are annoying wanting a rivalry with WVU that doesn't exist and I wish they would just go away, they are a nuisance. Besides, is a rival that NEVER wins a rivalry at all? They are insignificant, a very unworthy opponent that doesn't belong on the same gridiron as the Old Gold and Blue.

You just summed up the average WVU fan, and exactly why WVU is moving up there on my list of teams that I despise.

To be fair, I think the Friends of Coal Bowl is a joke. It was a good idea during the 1990's when Pruett was the head coach and Marshall was becoming a QB factory. The one game at Morgantown actually was a classic, but politics got involved from both sides. Rich Rodriguez took WVU to the next level (and one I believe WVU will never see again with Stewart as head coach), and Pruett retired ushering in the era of mediocrity known as the Mark Snyder years. Not a good time for a forced rivalry.

I have no problem with both teams playing each other when BOTH teams are doing well. If the shoe was on the other foot and WVU was struggling and Marshall was winning big I probably would look for a bigger game.

I do find it amusing that WVU fans will argue against not scheduling Marshall in football while they continue to schedule them in other sports. At least be consistent. The Capitol Classic in basketball was Wednesday in Charleston, and WVU only won by eight points.

The real kicker: Marshall has a 7 footer who is projected by NBADraft.net as the no 1 overall pick in 2011. :)

But WVU fans don't care about basketball. If Marshall ever beats WVU in football, I will have numerous friends and acquaintances on suicide watch.

[will5979]

But WVU fans don't care about basketball. If Marshall ever beats WVU in football, I will have numerous friends and acquaintances on suicide watch.

You just summed it up for me! If Marshall had beaten them the other night in the Classic, I honestly would not have known until a Marshall fan would have rubbed it in. Guess what? No effect on me, I hate basketball.

If it were football, go ahead and committ me to Riverpark! I literally would be on suicide watch!!! I almost was in 2007 after 13-9!

[GAC]

What do you have against teams from Florida?

Why just direct that question towards me? Why aren't you asking others on here as to why they despise the teams they do, whether it's the Yankees, Cowboys, Steelers, OSU, or whoever?

Why do (or should I) have to like them? Because of their success, and that they've been good? Don't deny that. But there are a lot of teams on people's list that fit that criteria, yet they can't stand them for their own particular reasons.

Some hate teams (and fanbase) because of rivalry, while others, like myself, also despise teams (and that includes their coaches) because of the way they are built up and hyped, as if the universe revolves around them. Various sports media, showing bias or whatever, give them so much attention and shove them down your throat.

[Sea Ray]

Why just direct that question towards me? Why aren't you asking others on here as to why they despise the teams they do, whether it's the Yankees, Cowboys, Steelers, OSU, or whoever?

Why do (or should I) have to like them? Because of their success, and that they've been good? Don't deny that. But there are a lot of teams on people's list that fit that criteria, yet they can't stand them for their own particular reasons.

Some hate teams (and fanbase) because of rivalry, while others, like myself, also despise teams (and that includes their coaches) because of the way they are built up and hyped, as if the universe revolves around them. Various sports media, showing bias or whatever, give them so much attention and shove them down your throat.


Simple. Because you're hating multiple teams from an entire state. Why hate Miami, South Florida, FSU, UF, Florida A and M and Central Florida? Those schools are so vastly different, the only thing in common is their state. I don't get hating an entire state and that's what sets your post apart, hence my asking you.

[improbus]

I don't hate Florida teams, but I am extremely jealous of their weather situation. My biggest regret in life is not going to college in the south. Winter in Ohio is not my style.

[jimbo]

Simple. Because you're hating multiple teams from an entire state. Why hate Miami, South Florida, FSU, UF, Florida A and M and Central Florida? Those schools are so vastly different, the only thing in common is their state. I don't get hating an entire state and that's what sets your post apart, hence my asking you.

I mentioned that I hate Florida teams also, but I should have clarified that I mainly meant Miami, FSU, and Florida.

Back when all 3 teams were doing pretty good, I just got sick of all the media hype surrounding them. Their coaches ran up scores whenever they got the chance, and the media loved it and ran with it. That's when my hatred of Florida teams began, and it still exists.

[Sea Ray]

I always thought Bobby Bowden was one of the good guys. He wasn't like Steve Spurrier and Jimmy Johnson. I think he was good for college football and I'm sorry to be see him go.

[RollyInRaleigh]

You just summed up the average WVU fan, and exactly why WVU is moving up there on my list of teams that I despise.

To be fair, I think the Friends of Coal Bowl is a joke. It was a good idea during the 1990's when Pruett was the head coach and Marshall was becoming a QB factory. The one game at Morgantown actually was a classic, but politics got involved from both sides. Rich Rodriguez took WVU to the next level (and one I believe WVU will never see again with Stewart as head coach), and Pruett retired ushering in the era of mediocrity known as the Mark Snyder years. Not a good time for a forced rivalry.

I have no problem with both teams playing each other when BOTH teams are doing well. If the shoe was on the other foot and WVU was struggling and Marshall was winning big I probably would look for a bigger game.

I do find it amusing that WVU fans will argue against not scheduling Marshall in football while they continue to schedule them in other sports. At least be consistent. The Capitol Classic in basketball was Wednesday in Charleston, and WVU only won by eight points.

The real kicker: Marshall has a 7 footer who is projected by NBADraft.net as the no 1 overall pick in 2011. :)

But WVU fans don't care about basketball. If Marshall ever beats WVU in football, I will have numerous friends and acquaintances on suicide watch.

They do have a very high opinion of themselves, don't they?

[WVRed]

They do have a very high opinion of themselves, don't they?

I think the best word I can use to describe my relationship with WVU is "tolerate". It's like sitting next to a crying child on a plane or something similar. My girlfriend's sister goes to Morgantown and her family has jumped on the WVU bandwagon when before they didn't follow college sports as much. I still hear from them every time I wear something UK around.

I do find it funny though that WVU played Marshall for one season during the 90's that Marshall gave them a pretty good run in and decided to use that as a barometer to not play the series. The years when Pennington and Leftwich were still at Marshall would have been fun to have seen a WVU-Marshall rivalry. But I guess WVU didn't want to risk their first loss to "the Cabell County school of WVU rejects".

To me it's like UK not wanting to play Louisville in basketball. I just do not understand it.

[RollyInRaleigh]

For years, I tolerated. Now I despise.

[JaxRed]

How/Why can someone hate the Jags?

[HoosierRedsFan]

How/Why can someone hate the Jags?

Because I am a Colts fan and Jaguars are in our division. Plus I've had issues with Jag fans, especially those that bring up 375. Also can't stand Vic Ketchman.

Forgot to add....Mike Peterson running his mouth for years about the Colts because they didn't resign him

[JaxRed]

Not trying to be funny here.... what the heck is 375?

[Revering4Blue]

Not trying to be funny here.... what the heck is 375?


Jaguars Maul the Colts With 375 Yards Rushing

December 11, 2006

Jaguars 44, Colts 17

[JaxRed]

Overall, the Colts have owned the Jags. Until they finish ahead of them 1 year.... I don't see how they can talk any smack

[WVRed]

Overall, the Colts have owned the Jags. Until they finish ahead of them 1 year.... I don't see how they can talk any smack

The Jaguars have had some pretty good success during the 90's, before the NFL went with the four team divisions. I would have always thought the Titans would be the Jags biggest rivals, going 14-2 in 1999, losing both regular season and AFC championship games to Tennessee.

Then again, Jacksonville IMO is the most likely team to ever be relocated barring another Al Davis meltdown. When they are talking about drafting Tim Tebow in the first round (projected as a second or third rounder) just to keep fans in the seats, something is wrong.

[GAC]

Simple. Because you're hating multiple teams from an entire state. Why hate Miami, South Florida, FSU, UF, Florida A and M and Central Florida? Those schools are so vastly different, the only thing in common is their state. I don't get hating an entire state and that's what sets your post apart, hence my asking you.

Then let me clarify my position a bit better. My statement was directed at three particular teams..... Florida, Florida State, and Miami.

[WMR]

Thank you for making my point for me, WMR.

Then again, perhaps I'm just a "hater" like, well, anyone that disagrees with you about Kentucky?

Completely incorrect. I have never said or implied that anyone who disagrees with me concerning Kentucky basketball is a "hater." Are there haters? Hell yeah there are.

I was completely offended by your inaccurate portrayal of Kentucky fans as rude, uneducated, idiots.

Furthermore, how many YEARS have you been engaging in UK-based discussions on this forum? I've had many discussions with you myself, and have witnessed countless other discussions between you and other members, and the discussions have almost always been cordial, intelligent, and content-based. That makes your comments seem extremely hypocritical to me.

Nearly all of my friends who are Kentucky fans are also college graduates, many with advanced degrees in their field. I'm glad that other folks with positive experiences with Kentucky fans chimed in, because your classifications were extremely inaccurate and way out of line.

[Roy Tucker]

Heck, I don't like Florida teams either. Just like I don't like any West Coast teams. I don't like SEC teams. I don't like ACC teams. There are a lot of Big East teams I don't like. I don't like Hawaii. I'm a midwest curmudgeon.

My list of teams I don't like is a whole lot longer than the teams I do like.

[will5979]

My list of teams I don't like is a whole lot longer than the teams I do like.

Good call. ITts like baseball for me, I love the Reds and don't like anyone else depise a few. Just when I started to enjoy watching Philly they went and flirted with taking away Reds BRM back to back history. SO although I cheered for them against the Rays, I loved seeing the Yankees help preserve BRM history.

[wolfboy]

After the Bengals playoff loss, we were in the Newport garage heading to our car. Two guys in Kentucky gear came up to us by the elevators and were yelling (not talking, YELLING) at us that the Bengals are losers and that we should root for a real team like Kentucky.

Not saying all Kentucky fans are like this, but I've never had this happen with fans of any other team, pro or college.

Maybe they were the same UK fans I used to work with that celebrated at the office when Kenyon Martin broke his leg. FWIW, they were pretty well educated.

When it comes down to it, every team has plenty of jerk fans to go around.

[Slyder]

As a Raider fan my first three should be of no surprise to anyone... Broncos, Cheifs, and Chargers. After that theres two categories

Dispise but Respect:
Pittsburgh Steelers (even with the Immaculant Deception)
00 Baltimore Ravens (they walked into the Black Hole and punched us in the mouth)

Never will Respect:
New England Patriots (Bill Bellicheat and Tom "Incomplete pass haha ya sure" Brady minus the NFL interference= NOTHING)

[LoganBuck]

Then let me clarify my position a bit better. My statement was directed at three particular teams..... Florida, Florida State, and Miami.

Didn't Florida International hire Isiah Thomas?

[SullyGator]

CFB: Vols, Hurricanes, Seminoles, Georgia Bulldogs
MLB: Cubs, Cards, Yankees
NFL: Patriots, Ravens, Rams

[Redhook]

I truly despise the Steelers. I dislike other teams, but I don't despise any of them like I do with Pitt.

[Mario-Rijo]

Oh yeah?

We sure haven't seen that around here...:cool:

Probably because you are so good at baiting. :cool:

[Mario-Rijo]

I have nothing against OSU, however when I try to watch a MNF game and the players introduce themselves along with their college it gets VERY annoying when they say "THE Ohio State University." If they are trying to make sure that everyone knows they are teh dominant team in Ohio and not the Bobcats then man, they've got problems!

It's because there are other OSU's around the country that it was needed to distinguish when saying one is from OSU (Oregon State and Oklahoma State), It's actually meant to be "THEE OSU". Sure I can see how it could be annoying (I don't care much for "the U") but really IMO it only is annoying to folks because they don't like us to begin with (I couldn't stand the U of Miami before they were "the U"). Plus there is a bit of arrogance in there to begin with for anyone to suggest they are "THEE" anything.

[reds1869]

It's because there are other OSU's around the country that it was needed to distinguish when saying one is from OSU (Oregon State and Oklahoma State), It's actually meant to be "THEE OSU". Sure I can see how it could be annoying (I don't care much for "the U") but really IMO it only is annoying to folks because they don't like us to begin with (I couldn't stand the U of Miami before they were "the U"). Plus there is a bit of arrogance in there to begin with for anyone to suggest they are "THEE" anything.

I'm not a Buckeye fan by any stretch. In fact, I actively cheer against them. But the whole "tOSU" thing has never bothered me because that is the name of the school: The Ohio State University. I don't understand getting worked up over a school using their actual name. :dunno:

[Betterread]

I had almost forgotten about Bob Hutchins teams. He is a self-centered boor who can't teach basic skills and is the epitome of college basketball's cult of personality around coaches. When I watch a game involving one of his teams, I end up swearing off college basketball for a while. He is a disservice to the game. I would love to see a referee smash his face in when he is in full-form.

[Yachtzee]

It's because there are other OSU's around the country that it was needed to distinguish when saying one is from OSU (Oregon State and Oklahoma State), It's actually meant to be "THEE OSU". Sure I can see how it could be annoying (I don't care much for "the U") but really IMO it only is annoying to folks because they don't like us to begin with (I couldn't stand the U of Miami before they were "the U"). Plus there is a bit of arrogance in there to begin with for anyone to suggest they are "THEE" anything.

I thought it came primarily from a dispute with Ohio University over the use of the terms of "Ohio" and "state university" in advertising literature, but I could be wrong. I remember for a while Ohio State was trying to keep OU from using the word "Ohio" as their logo.

[reds44]

Cardinals.
Cubs.
Bears.
Panthers.
Celtics.
Toledo.

[RFS62]

MLB - Cubs and Yankees. All right thinking Americans must hate these two teams.

NFL - Steelers and Ravens

The NCAA haters really do some world class hating. I'll never figure out why West Virginians hate each other through WVU and Marshall. I'm happy when either of them does well.

[RollyInRaleigh]

I used to root for both teams when I was a youngster. Then, I got totally tired of being belittled for attending Marshall and rooting for the Herd by so many WVU fans. Having lived in Virginia for nearly 10 years, it is no different between the fans of Virginia and Virginia Tech. Here in North Carolina, it's just on a larger scale with more teams to not like. North Carolina and Duke are the biggest right now.

[Sea Ray]

Probably because you are so good at baiting.


It's got nothing to do with me. That observation was made by a person who joined RZ less than a month ago. Try again...

[Roy Tucker]

I had almost forgotten about Bob Hutchins teams. He is a self-centered boor who can't teach basic skills and is the epitome of college basketball's cult of personality around coaches. When I watch a game involving one of his teams, I end up swearing off college basketball for a while. He is a disservice to the game. I would love to see a referee smash his face in when he is in full-form.

Quit holding back. Tell us how you really feel.

:)

[dabvu2498]

I used to root for both teams when I was a youngster. Then, I got totally tired of being belittled for attending Marshall and rooting for the Herd by so many WVU fans. Having lived in Virginia for nearly 10 years, it is no different between the fans of Virginia and Virginia Tech. Here in North Carolina, it's just on a larger scale with more teams to not like. North Carolina and Duke are the biggest right now. When I was a pretty young kid we lived near Louisville and I like UK and the Cards. Then they started playing each other and I couldn't do that anymore. I thank my parents often for not buying me any UofL gear when I was that age. At least there is no photographic evidence of me as a Cards fan.

[gonelong]

NFL: Steelers (team and fans) - back from when Keith Gary tried to rip off Ken Anderson's head.
MLB: Cubs fans, Yankees (team and fans), Red Sox (team and fans) - just tired of these teams being stuffed down my throat.
NCAA Bowl System: Give me a playoff already.


GL

[BRM]

When I was a pretty young kid we lived near Louisville and I like UK and the Cards. Then they started playing each other and I couldn't do that anymore. I thank my parents often for not buying me any UofL gear when I was that age. At least there is no photographic evidence of me as a Cards fan.

This post will serve as all the evidence we need. ;)

[will5979]

[QUOTE=RANDY IN CHAR NC;2020343]I used to root for both teams when I was a youngster. Then, I got totally tired of being belittled for attending Marshall and rooting for the Herd by so many WVU fans. [QUOTE]

Thats funny because that is exactly what happened to me! Reverse the last statement of course. I don't know man I get tired of all the BS between the 2 sets of fans, thats why I say get the divorce and each team go there merry ways, and everyone can be happy. Both sets of fans are really hating the forced series right now.

The only way I could see this game being any fun or relevant is if they would meet in a bowl game, which may actually happen if my beloved Mounties don't get rid of Bill Good Golly Gee Don Nehlen's Reincarnation Stewart.