2010 Redszone NFL Mock Draft.

[Buckeye33]

This worked out pretty well last few seasons so I figured that I would start it up again this year and see if it gets the same response.

Please respond in this thread if you want to be the GM of a team. The first people to respond to the thread with the team they want will get that team. We will start the draft on March 1st.

Please refer to the link below if you want an idea on how this has been done the past few years.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74100&highlight=2009+NFL+mock+draft

The draft will be three rounds, just like last season. I am going to draft for the New Orleans Saints. I will update the draft order once the coin flips have taken place. Chicago and Carolina do not have 1st round picks currently but will need people to draft the other rounds for them.

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14)

3. Tampa Bay (3-13)

4. Washington (4-12)

5. Kansas City (4-12)

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11)

8. Oakland (5-11)

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9)

12. Miami (7-9)

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8)

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8)

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7)

20. x-Houston (9-7)

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5)

24. Philadelphia (11-5)

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5)

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2)

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[LoganBuck]

I want to screw up St. Louis again.

[LoganBuck]

Can we wait to start the draft until after the combine is over? It ends on March 2.

[WMR]

I'll take the Bengals.

[WVRed]

I'll take the Patriots. Three picks in the second round.

[Buckeye33]

Can we wait to start the draft until after the combine is over? It ends on March 2.

That is fine with me ..

[Kingspoint]

I'll take Seattle.

[HotCorner]

I'll take the 49'ers. With two 1st's, this could be fun.

[KoryMac5]

I will draft for Buffalo again.

[Puffy]

I've got the Giants.

I was going to start this - but you beat me to it. I think we need to start later and assign times so everyone knows exactly when they are drafting and we can wait until after combines and free agency so people know what teams are looking for (and so we don't go 24 hours waiting for a pick again).

[JaxRed]

I'll be Gene Smith (Jags GM)

[Redlegs212]

I'll take Philly

[camisadelgolf]

I'll take the Texans.

[Buckeye33]

This worked out pretty well last few seasons so I figured that I would start it up again this year and see if it gets the same response.

Please respond in this thread if you want to be the GM of a team. The first people to respond to the thread with the team they want will get that team. We will start the draft on March 1st.

Please refer to the link below if you want an idea on how this has been done the past few years.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74100&highlight=2009+NFL+mock+draft

The draft will be three rounds, just like last season. I am going to draft for the New Orleans Saints. I will update the draft order once the coin flips have taken place. Chicago and Carolina do not have 1st round picks currently but will need people to draft the other rounds for them.

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14)

3. Tampa Bay (3-13)

4. Washington (4-12)

5. Kansas City (4-12)

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11)

8. Oakland (5-11)

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaRed

12. Miami (7-9)

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8)

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7)

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5)

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5)

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2)

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[JaxRed]

How did Jared from Subway beat me out?

[Ben]

I'll take the Brownies...woof woof

[Buckeye33]

How did Jared from Subway beat me out?

Because I was typing very fast before I had to go to work last night. I will fix it in the net update sir. :D

[chicoruiz]

I'll take the Colts...

[Joseph]

I'll take the Raiders

[NJReds]

I'll take Dallas.

[Gallen5862]

I will draft for the Washington Redskins.

[Buckeye33]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13)

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12)

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

12. Miami (7-9)

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8)

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5)

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[Sea Ray]

I'll take the Detroit Lions

[sonny]

Yes! I'll screw up atlanta like I have the last two years.

[TeamSelig]

I'll take Tampa Bay

[Sean_CaseyRules]

I'll take the Dolphins.

[reds44]

Buccaneers please.

edit: team selig got me. That jerk.

[WVRed]

12 Teams still available:
Kansas City
Denver
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Green Bay
Baltimore
Arizona
San Diego
New York Jets
Minnesota
Chicago
Carolina

[LoganBuck]

12 Teams still available:
Kansas City
Denver
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Green Bay
Baltimore
Arizona
San Diego
New York Jets
Minnesota
Chicago
Carolina

I am willing to double up if need be.

Are we going to allow trades this year?

[Red Heeler]

Titans please.

[texasdave]

How did Jared from Subway beat me out?

Are you offering five-dollar footlongs? :)

[Buckeye33]

There will be no trades between mock drafters. If a trade occurs in the NFL before we start our draft I will adjust the picks accordingly.

I doubt that we'll need to have people draft for 2 teams. We only have 11 teams left to fill and still 2+ weeks before we start drafting.

[reds44]

I'll take Green Bay.

[Buckeye33]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13)

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12)

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

12. Miami (7-9)

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8) - Red Heeler

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5) - reds44

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[Hoosier Red]

I'll take KC.

If I had Pittsburgh could I make them draft a crappy player?

[Caveat Emperor]

Just, whoever ends up with Tampa, please don't draft Eric Berry. Even reading his name next to TB in mock drafts makes my blood boil.

[Sean_CaseyRules]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13)

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12)

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

12. Miami (7-9)

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8) - Red Heeler

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5) - reds44

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

I'll take Miami.

[TeamSelig]

How many rounds are we doing?

[camisadelgolf]

How many rounds are we doing?
We did three last year iIrc.

[Kingspoint]

Question: Why are we doing the "mock" draft so darn early.

It's going to be a pretty silly "mock" and have absolutely nothing to do with the real thing because you're conducting it before Free Agency even begins.

Every time a Free Agent is signed, it changes what will happen in the real draft.

I thought the purpose of a "mock" draft was to get a gauge on what would really happen when the draft happens. April 1st would be a much more sensible time to begin the draft.

Redszone viewers are so vigilant about checking things that they're involved in, that the whole 1st Round will probably be finished in less than 5 days, and more likely less than 3 days.

There's a lot of expertise here. I'd love to see us take advantage of that and have a real "mock" draft in order to get a good idea of what will actually happen when the draft comes April 22nd.

[WVRed]

Question: Why are we doing the "mock" draft so darn early.

It's going to be a pretty silly "mock" and have absolutely nothing to do with the real thing because you're conducting it before Free Agency even begins.

Every time a Free Agent is signed, it changes what will happen in the real draft.

I thought the purpose of a "mock" draft was to get a gauge on what would really happen when the draft happens. April 1st would be a much more sensible time to begin the draft.

Redszone viewers are so vigilant about checking things that they're involved in, that the whole 1st Round will probably be finished in less than 5 days, and more likely less than 3 days.

There's a lot of expertise here. I'd love to see us take advantage of that and have a real "mock" draft in order to get a good idea of what will actually happen when the draft comes April 22nd.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74100&highlight=2009+NFL+Mock+Draft

Started on March 1st, ended on April 3rd.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65808&highlight=2008+NFL+Mock+Draft

Began February 29th, ended April 16th.

An idea I had would be to possibly set a day where we could have a speed rush with the mock draft. I've done this before in sim leagues and keeper fantasy leagues that I have been in. Get as many people as possible to meet in the Redszone Chat Room on say April 1st and hammer out as many picks as possible. For those who can't make it, send a prerank out ahead of time to Buckeye33.

[Puffy]

I working on it - if we set times (say number 1 pick, March 22 from 8-10am; pick 2, March 22 from 10-noon, etc.)

With 2 hour windows and starting with 8-10 am window and ending with 8-10 pm window that is 7 picks a day - that means we would be done in 14 or 15 days. So if we start Monday March 22 we would conclude in early April (assuming we take weekends off).

But i am willing to do schedule so everyone will know exact dates and times their window comes up and can prepare accordingly. I think we can easily make this work.

[Buckeye33]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - TeamSelig

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12) - Hoosier Red

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9)

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

12. Miami (7-9) - Sean_CaseyRules

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8) - Red Heeler

18. Pittsburgh (9-7)

19. x-Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5) - reds44

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

Only 9 teams left ..

[Buckeye33]

Lets get these last teams filled up!

[TeamSelig]

I'll double up if we can't find anyone else.

[Slyder]

I could take a team. I enjoyed it last year as Oaklands GM. Sadly Al Davis still called the shots in April.

Of those teams Pittsburgh would probably be the one I'd know the most of.

[Kingspoint]

I've already got Seattle, but I'll take anyone that's left if it gets down to crunch time. I know most of the teams pretty well.

[Homer Bailey]

I'll take Denver.

[Buckeye33]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - TeamSelig

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12) - Hoosier Red

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. x-Denver (from Chicago, 7-9) - Homer Bailey

11. x-Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

12. Miami (7-9) - Sean_CaseyRules

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. x-San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

17. x-Tennessee (8-8) - Red Heeler

18. Pittsburgh (9-7) - Slyder

19. x-Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. x-Houston (9-7) - camisadelgolf

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5) - reds44

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6)

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[camisadelgolf]

I'm not particularly attached to the Texans, so if anyone wants to trade, that's fine with me.

[HeatherC1212]

I don't always do this very well but I'll give it a try again this year. I'll take Arizona. :)

[Buckeye33]

I'm not particularly attached to the Texans, so if anyone wants to trade, that's fine with me.

Would you rather have the Ravens, Jets, Chargers, Vikings, Bears, or Panthers? Those are all still open so it would be no big deal to give you one of those and open the Texans back up.

[camisadelgolf]

Would you rather have the Ravens, Jets, Chargers, Vikings, Bears, or Panthers? Those are all still open so it would be no big deal to give you one of those and open the Texans back up.
It really makes no difference to me who I have; I just want to participate. I'll take whatever team is last-requested.

[Homer Bailey]

Texans are my favorite team. I'll gladly take them from you camisa!

[camisadelgolf]

Texans are my favorite team. I'll gladly take them from you camisa!
That's fine with me. In the meantime, I'll take the Broncos.

[Homer Bailey]

That's fine with me. In the meantime, I'll take the Broncos.

Well, I'm going to need your 2nd and 3rd rounders to make the deal :p:

[camisadelgolf]

Well, I'm going to need your 2nd and 3rd rounders to make the deal :p:
You can have them. We were probably going to use those picks on running backs anyway.

[Kingspoint]

Texans are my favorite team. I'll gladly take them from you camisa!

What you do effects what the Bengals do, since you pick directly ahead of them and have a couple of similar needs.

You need a Cornerback and Zimmer wants a Nickleback.

You need a Defensive End, and Antwan Odom is the most unreliable Defensive End in the NFL. The Bengals need a Defensive End.

You need a Free Safety, and the Bengals need a Free Safety.

You don't need a TE or WR, though and the Bengals need both of those.

[Buckeye33]

1. St. Louis (1-15) - LoganBuck

2. Detroit (2-14) - Sea Ray

3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - TeamSelig

4. Washington (4-12) - Gallen5862

5. Kansas City (4-12) - Hoosier Red

6. Seattle (5-11) - Kingspoint

7. Cleveland (5-11) - Ben

8. Oakland (5-11) - Joseph

9. Buffalo (6-10) - KoryMac5

10. Jacksonville (7-9) - JaxRed

11. Denver (from Chicago, 7-9) - camisadelgolf

12. Miami (7-9) - Sean_CaseyRules

13. San Francisco (8-8) - HotCorner

14. Seattle (from Denver, 8-8) - Kingspoint

15. New York Giants (8-8) - Puffy

16. Tennessee (8-8) - Red Heeler

17. San Francisco (from Carolina, 8-8) - HotCorner

18. Pittsburgh (9-7) - Slyder

19. Atlanta (9-7) - sonny

20. Houston (9-7) - Homer Bailey

21. Cincinnati (10-6) - WMR

22. New England (10-6) - WVRed

23. Green Bay (11-5) - reds44

24. Philadelphia (11-5) - Redlegs212

25. Baltimore (9-7)

26. Arizona (10-6) - HeatherC1212

27. Dallas (11-5) - NJReds

28. San Diego (13-3)

29. New York Jets (9-7)

30. Minnesota (12-4)

31. Indianapolis (14-2) - chicoruiz

32. New Orleans (13-3) - Buckeye33

Chicago Bears -
Carolina Panthers -

[Kingspoint]

The Jaguars will draft 10th overall in April after winning a coin flip with Denver at the Scouting Combine on Friday. The Broncos will draft 11th.

The Falcons will draft 19th overall in the first round after winning a coin flip at the Combine on Friday.
The Texans will go 20th. (you already have it set up this way)

[Buckeye33]

The Jaguars will draft 10th overall in April after winning a coin flip with Denver at the Scouting Combine on Friday. The Broncos will draft 11th.

The Falcons will draft 19th overall in the first round after winning a coin flip at the Combine on Friday.
The Texans will go 20th. (you already have it set up this way)

Yeah, I changed to the correct draft order when I updated it earlier tis afternoon. Thanks for being on top of things though.

[Kingspoint]

Yeah, I changed to the correct draft order when I updated it earlier tis afternoon. Thanks for being on top of things though.

I don't see the change. I looked at the first post.

[Buckeye33]

I don't see the change. I looked at the first post.

It is updated in the newest list of teams and user names that are bolded.

[LoganBuck]

Can we do trades? I have had several people PM me about trades.

[Buckeye33]

Can we do trades? I have had several people PM me about trades.

We have not done trades in either of the last 2 years and I do not want to start this year. Lets just stick with doing a basic mock draft.

So who is now going to take Bruce Campbell in the top 10? He ran a 4.78 40 today as a big OL.

[Sea Ray]

We have not done trades in either of the last 2 years and I do not want to start this year. Lets just stick with doing a basic mock draft.

So who is now going to take Bruce Campbell in the top 10? He ran a 4.78 40 today as a big OL.

A guy's 40 time has got to be the least significant stat for an O lineman. How often do these guys run 40 yards? I'm much more interested in footwork, strength, arm length and other things

[TeamSelig]

But, the quicker the better for run blocking, right? I guess you wouldn't need a whole 40 yard dash to show that though, maybe 10-15.

[Kingspoint]

So who is now going to take Bruce Campbell in the top 10? He ran a 4.78 40 today as a big OL.

That would be the Raiders.

[camisadelgolf]

That would be the Raiders.
:lol:

[Homer Bailey]

Taylor Mays just ran a 4.24.

Oh, he weighs 230 as well.

Edit: it was just just changed to a 4.43. Got a little excited.

[Joseph]

Considering I'm picking the Raiders and I have an unnatural affinity for the actor Bruce Campbell......maybe I will.

[Slyder]

Considering I'm picking the Raiders and I have an unnatural affinity for the actor Bruce Campbell......maybe I will.

It would fit the "Al Davis Model" of 1st round picks..

1 Freakish athleticism
2 Fast
3 Fast
4 Fast
5 Fast

[LoganBuck]

When do we want to start?

I will be out for the rest of the afternoon.

[Kingspoint]

When do we want to start?

I will be out for the rest of the afternoon.

Can it be a "sticky" thread?

[Buckeye33]

OK, since we haven't had anyone take the last 5 teams I am going to open them up to anyone that wants a 2nd team.

Please leave what team you want if you want a 2nd team. Lets shoot for a start to the draft for Friday at Noon. I try to PM the next owner when I can once their pick is up.

[LoganBuck]

I will take Baltimore. If no one else wants them.

[Kingspoint]

I'll take the Chargers.

[Mario-Rijo]

OK, since we haven't had anyone take the last 5 teams I am going to open them up to anyone that wants a 2nd team.

Please leave what team you want if you want a 2nd team. Lets shoot for a start to the draft for Friday at Noon. I try to PM the next owner when I can once their pick is up.

I will go ahead and take the Jets even though they did end the Bengals season.

I also would like to select for the Bengals next year since I can never beat WMR to the daggone thread. :p:

[Buckeye33]

I'll go ahead and pick for the Vikings as I have a couple buddies who are die hard Vikings fans so I'll let them tell me who they would take.

Draft starts today at noon. Please feel free to be creative in announcing your picks (pictures, commentary, etc)

[LoganBuck]

With the first pick in the 2010 Redszone Mock Draft the St. Louis Rams select:

Defensive Tackle Ndamukong Suh from the University of Nebraska

http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/suh.jpg

With this selection the Rams hope to upgrade their defensive line from adequate to excellent.

[Buckeye33]

I forgot that we usually start a 2nd thread for the actual draft. I will start that now.

[Sea Ray]

Detroit Lions choose DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma Sooners

[Kingspoint]

The Lions didn't have any trouble getting leads last year.

It was holding them where they struggled. With the addition of Vanden Bosch (though he hasn't got anything left physically, but his smarts will lead that Defense), Corey Williams and McCoy, the Lions finally have a season to look forward to again.