ACC & Pac-10 Hoops

[improbus]

Duke is the only team between the two conferences to be ranked. Wow. New Mexico is in the top 10. This is going to be a strange tournament.

[Boston Red]

Pac-10 should be a one-bid league if Cal wins the conference tourney. Not sure why ESPN was in Seattle for GameDay last weekend unless Digger has a ladyfriend out there he wanted to see. Hell, Siena and Butler was a better game with many more Tournament implications. They may has well have been in Inday.

[guttle11]

Pac-10 should be a one-bid league if Cal wins the conference tourney. Not sure why ESPN was in Seattle for GameDay last weekend unless Digger has a ladyfriend out there he wanted to see. Hell, Siena and Butler was a better game with many more Tournament implications. They may has well have been in Inday.

Yeah, Gameday in Seattle was odd. Unlike football, they set the basketball Gameday schedule well before the season starts. I try to watch Pac-10 games on FSN because I just like basketball, but they are nearly impossible to watch this year. Just bad hoops all around.

[dabvu2498]

The MWC champ could... Could get a 2 seed. Butler is fairly likely to get at least a 4.

[IslandRed]

The ACC will still get five, maybe six teams in the tournament, they'll just be lower seeds. It's definitely a strange season what with North Carolina cratering. I know they had to replace nearly everyone from the title team, but they were better than this early in the year.

[Kingspoint]

The Pac-10 has been so pitiful that they should only get their automatic bid...two bids if someone else other than the conference winner wins their tourney.....maybe.

The Big East should get at least 8 teams.

[joshnky]

The Big East should get at least 8 teams.

The Big East is very mediocre outside of the top 4 teams. Right now they probably have five teams in (Nova, Syracuse, WVU, Pitt, Gtown) and another six (UofL, UC, UConn, Marquette, Seton Hall, South Florida) on the bubble.

[bucksfan2]

The Big East is very mediocre outside of the top 4 teams. Right now they probably have five teams in (Nova, Syracuse, WVU, Pitt, Gtown) and another six (UofL, UC, UConn, Marquette, Seton Hall, South Florida) on the bubble.

I think the Big East has very good depth. I think the bubble teams in the Big East, especially UL and UConn have the ability to beat any team in the country. With the exception of the Big East, and maybe even the Big 10 (very high on OSU, Purdue, and MSU) I think this is a very mediocre season in college basketball. Don't get me wrong, you have some top teams that are good (Kansas and UK come to mind) but there is very little depth. The ACC is especially disappointing, when you consider UNC is the defending national champions and I think Duke is one of the most over rated teams this season.

[Kingspoint]

UConn would go undefeated in the Pac-10.

[joshnky]

UConn would go undefeated in the Pac-10.

No way. I'm a Louisville and Big East fan and there is no way this is a true statement. UConn has been very schizophrenic this season with losses to UC (twice), Marquette, and Providence not to mention Louisville. I watched them play Louisville and, for that game only, I think they played like one of the worst teams Louisville has faced all season. They were awful, and because of the tendency to play bad for stretches, they're still on the outside looking in for the tournament. I know you're trying to make a point with hyperbole but its just not anywhere close to reality.

Edit: Wow, I just looked at the PAC10 and didn't realize they were that bad. Jerry Palm has Cal as the only tourney team as a 13 seed. I still stand by my earlier statement but it isn't quite as far outside the realm of possibility as I thought.

[Chip R]

UConn would go undefeated in the Pac-10.

Unless UC played there too.

[Kingspoint]

It's embarrassing how bad the Pac-10 is, and that's after they embarrassed themselves in the Bowl Games in football. Hopefully, they make up for this season in NCAA baseball.

I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 coaches get fired in the Pac-10 in basketball after this season.

[dabvu2498]

It's embarrassing how bad the Pac-10 is, and that's after they embarrassed themselves in the Bowl Games in football. Hopefully, they make up for this season in NCAA baseball. I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 coaches get fired in the Pac-10 in basketball after this season. Ernie Kent is the only one that I think is out for sure.

[OnBaseMachine]

It's embarrassing how bad the Pac-10 is, and that's after they embarrassed themselves in the Bowl Games in football. Hopefully, they make up for this season in NCAA baseball.

I wouldn't be surprised if 4 or 5 coaches get fired in the Pac-10 in basketball after this season.

It's one bad season, albeit a very, very bad one. It happens. They placed six teams in the tourney last season, and since you brought up football, they went undefeated in their bowl games last season too.

[bucksfan2]

It's one bad season, albeit a very, very bad one. It happens. They placed six teams in the tourney last season, and since you brought up football, they went undefeated in their bowl games last season too.

OSU beat Oregon, so I know they didn't go undefeated.

Kinda surprised that UCLA is just this awful this year. I consider Ben Howland to be one of the top coaches in college basketball. This year is just a huge surprise for me.

[OnBaseMachine]

OSU beat Oregon, so I know they didn't go undefeated.

Kinda surprised that UCLA is just this awful this year. I consider Ben Howland to be one of the top coaches in college basketball. This year is just a huge surprise for me.

I'm talking about the 2008 season.

[Kingspoint]

It's one bad season, albeit a very, very bad one. It happens. They placed six teams in the tourney last season, and since you brought up football, they went undefeated in their bowl games last season too.


They traditionally do very well in the Bowl games and are usually underrated as a conference, but this year, as you say, was a very bad year. The Basketball Programs are in such a mess that it's not going to be fixed in one year. The Football programs are in very good shape and they should go back to the dominance they're used to next season.

[Kingspoint]

OSU beat Oregon, so I know they didn't go undefeated.

Kinda surprised that UCLA is just this awful this year. I consider Ben Howland to be one of the top coaches in college basketball. This year is just a huge surprise for me.

When he said "last season", he meant the 2008-2009 season.

[Revering4Blue]

A Long Season of Disappointment in the Pac-10


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/sports/ncaabasketball/25pac10.html?pagewanted=1&ref=sports

[OnBaseMachine]

To some degree, the Pac-10’s woes may be tied to a turnover in coaches, six of whom are in their first or second seasons. This can result in a slip back in recruiting or a coach trying to win with players who do not fit his system. For example, in his two seasons at Cal Montgomery has been critical of his team’s defense, rebounding and overall toughness.

I look for there to be a seventh coaching change in three years, because I don't see Ernie Kent returning to Oregon next season. I think Arizona will be a lot better though. Sean Miller is a heck of a coach. He'll turn Arizona around, IMO.

[Kingspoint]

I look for there to be a seventh coaching change in three years, because I don't see Ernie Kent returning to Oregon next season. I think Arizona will be a lot better though. Sean Miller is a heck of a coach. He'll turn Arizona around, IMO.

I didn't realize that many coaches were new. Kent is definitely gone. They'll open their new building with a new Coach.

[Razor Shines]

The Big East is very mediocre outside of the top 4 teams. Right now they probably have five teams in (Nova, Syracuse, WVU, Pitt, Gtown) and another six (UofL, UC, UConn, Marquette, Seton Hall, South Florida) on the bubble.

You mentioned a lot of teams, but not ND. Of course I think this was posted before their last two wins, but I gotta believe with beating Pitt and Gtown in their last two they've got some shot at getting in.