View Full Version : Reggie Miller VS The Knicks
Razor Shines
03-14-2010, 09:17 PM
Anybody watching this? It just started but so far I love it. I choose to watch this and record The Pacific and so far I think I made the right choice.
improbus
03-14-2010, 09:24 PM
Anybody watching this? It just started but so far I love it. I choose to watch this and record The Pacific and so far I think I made the right choice.
Biggest surprise so far, Reggie's improved teeth.
Eric_the_Red
03-14-2010, 09:46 PM
DVR is recording it now. All of the 30 For 30 shows have been great so far. Wish ESPN did more of these types of shows.
Razor Shines
03-14-2010, 09:47 PM
Biggest surprise so far, Reggie's improved teeth.
Classy
improbus
03-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Classy
Kidding of course. I absolutely love everyones sense of humor about the subject. Great show.
Razor Shines
03-15-2010, 02:02 AM
Kidding of course. I absolutely love everyones sense of humor about the subject. Great show.
Yeah, I was just being stupid, I don't really care what you think of Reggie's teeth.
One of my favorite parts was when Bill Benner said that if it'd been a NY guy treating a Pacer fan like Reggie treated Spike hoosiers would have been saying "what how can you embrace a guy like that? But he was our guy so it was ok." It's a pretty true statement.
gilpdawg
03-15-2010, 06:34 AM
I watched the first half hour on the DVR, will watch the rest tonight. Pretty good so far. That era of the Pacers is what made me an NBA fan, and Reggie is still my all time favorite player. (My favorite Pacer team was actually the 97-98 team that came closer to knocking off Jordan's Bulls than anybody else during that time.) I was 15 and 16 during those Knick series'. I remember the 8 points in 8 seconds like it was yesterday.
redsfan30
03-15-2010, 11:50 AM
I miss the NBA of the 90s.
Blimpie
03-15-2010, 01:15 PM
Great episode. I especially liked it when the Pacer fans eviscerated Spike Lee at every opportunity. Of course, he essentially called Pacer games "Klan rallies.."
By the way, Cheryl Miller needs to abandon the cornrows.... come to think of it, the perm she sported in her Olympic days was not working for her either.
Comforting to see Spike Lee is still just as big of an idiot as he's always been.
Blimpie
03-15-2010, 01:20 PM
I miss the NBA of the 90s.I could not agree more. The episode even had me waxing nostaligic about Rick Smits.
redsfanmia
03-15-2010, 04:00 PM
I could not agree more. The episode even had me waxing nostaligic about Rick Smits.
Rik lived down the street from me, a very nice guy.
Hoosier Red
03-15-2010, 05:09 PM
I was interested in this because I like Reggie, but I'm curious how this appealed to anyone who wasn't a Knicks or Pacers fan at the time.
The Knicks brand of basketball was embarrisingly ugly and the Pacers couldn't have held a lot of interest outside the Hoosier state right?
That said I truly enjoyed the documentary and long for the days when the Pacers become relevant again.
improbus
03-15-2010, 05:34 PM
My DVR cut out right as Ewing began to drive down the lane. Did he make it?;)
redsfanmia
03-15-2010, 06:43 PM
My DVR cut out right as Ewing began to drive down the lane. Did he make it?;)
Still missed and still traveled.
Razor Shines
03-15-2010, 06:46 PM
Rik lived down the street from me, a very nice guy.
When I lived in Indiana a couple years ago I played in a Rec league with Rik and he is a very nice guy.
redsfanmia
03-15-2010, 08:12 PM
When I lived in Indiana a couple years ago I played in a Rec league with Rik and he is a very nice guy.
Who would guard Rik in a rec league?
Who would guard Rik in a rec league?
You've obviously never seen Razor before.
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat_guy.jpg
He did, of course.
gilpdawg
03-16-2010, 06:30 AM
When I lived in Indiana a couple years ago I played in a Rec league with Rik and he is a very nice guy.
I always assumed Rik went back to Holland. But I've never heard anybody around Indy say anythiing bad about Rik Smits. Class guy all around. Now, I have heard things about Reg...but that's another story, and I don't like to spread rumors.
Blimpie
03-16-2010, 07:22 AM
I must have been the only one who forgot Rik spelled his name sans "c"....
;)
George Anderson
03-16-2010, 10:02 AM
I always assumed Rik went back to Holland. But I've never heard anybody around Indy say anythiing bad about Rik Smits. Class guy all around. Now, I have heard things about Reg...but that's another story, and I don't like to spread rumors.
Yea Rik is a great guy and I am pretty sure he still lives in Indy.
Smits really had a pretty nice career. He wasn't a HOF type player but certainly a player that helped make the Pacers an upper echelon team.
I remember sitting at a Village Pantry years ago and seeing this humongous freak of a man walk inside. It was Rik and trust me 7'-4" is is pretty damn tall.
Chip R
03-16-2010, 10:14 AM
I was interested in this because I like Reggie, but I'm curious how this appealed to anyone who wasn't a Knicks or Pacers fan at the time.
I'm not a fan of either team but I was interested in this story.
George Anderson
03-16-2010, 10:27 AM
I did watch some of the show last night but when it got to Game 3 of the 99' Playoffs I simply couldn't watch it. The call the Ref made on Larry Johnson's 4 point play was hands down one of the worst calls I have ever seem in pro sports. I recall reading an article years ago where the official who made the call knew he blew the call the minute he did it and has deeply regretted it since.
Razor Shines
03-16-2010, 12:10 PM
I did watch some of the show last night but when it got to Game 3 of the 99' Playoffs I simply couldn't watch it. The call the Ref made on Larry Johnson's 4 point play was hands down one of the worst calls I have ever seem in pro sports. I recall reading an article years ago where the official who made the call knew he blew the call the minute he did it and has deeply regretted it since.
The quote omitted from the article:
"But at the same time, I didn't have a choice, I had a ton of money on the Knicks."
Razor Shines
03-16-2010, 12:11 PM
You've obviously never seen Razor before.
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fat_guy.jpg
He did, of course.
I own the paint.
You've obviously never seen Razor before.
He did, of course.
Razor dominates youth leagues. Not sure he could hang in an adult rec league though.
That said I truly enjoyed the documentary and long for the days when the Pacers become relevant again.
We may be waiting a while.
Razor Shines
03-16-2010, 02:54 PM
I always assumed Rik went back to Holland. But I've never heard anybody around Indy say anythiing bad about Rik Smits. Class guy all around. Now, I have heard things about Reg...but that's another story, and I don't like to spread rumors.
He's got a place in Southern Indiana with a TON of land. Believe it or not he has a fleet of ATVs and dirt bikes. Odd hobby for a dude that 7'4".
Razor Shines
03-16-2010, 02:55 PM
Razor dominates youth leagues. Not sure he could hang in an adult rec league though.
In 10 and under leagues I average 15+ points a game. I'm pretty sweet. That's an 8 foot goal, I can slap boards.
That's an 8 foot goal, I can slap boards.
:lol:
Blimpie
03-16-2010, 07:47 PM
I heard Razor could grab a quarter off the top of the backboard and leave $0.15 change.
George Anderson
03-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Razor played basketball at my house when he was 14.
He kicked my butt soundly.
Razor played basketball at my house when he was 14.
He kicked my butt soundly.
Yeah, but you were only 6.
Razor Shines
03-17-2010, 01:35 PM
Razor played basketball at my house when he was 14.
He kicked my butt soundly.
HA, I do remember that. That was pre knee surgery(s) I could still play back then.
Yeah, but you were only 6.
If I remember correctly he was in his late 20s early 30s, still in peak condition. Dunked on us several times. Isn't that right, coach?
HA, I do remember that. That was pre knee surgery(s) I could still play back then.
If I remember correctly he was in his late 20s early 30s, still in peak condition. Dunked on us several times. Isn't that right, coach?
I'm afraid I can't believe any of this without video evidence.
Puffy
03-17-2010, 03:41 PM
Rik Smits was at Marist College while I was growing up. We had season tickets and watched him from when he was a freshman til he left. And every single story you ever heard from people who talked to him was about what a good dude he was.
I still rooted for him when he was on the Pacers - it was the rest of the team that I actively rooted against. And the Larry Johnson call was the correct call!!
Go Knicks :D
George Anderson
03-17-2010, 03:54 PM
If I remember correctly he was in his late 20s early 30s, still in peak condition. Dunked on us several times. Isn't that right, coach?
I am sure I threw up quite a few Michael Jordanesque slams when I was schooling you on the basketball court young Razor. Along with several lazer like three point shots I was hitting from the cheap seats. :D
Back to the world of reality I do remember when i had you guys over for the tournament you got lucky and drew Torzewski as a teammate. I think I drew a kid that was as bad at basketball as he was at baseball. Factor in I am a pretty bad basketball player and it was a quick tournament for me.
George Anderson
03-17-2010, 04:01 PM
And the Larry Johnson call was the correct call!!
:D
To bad the official who made the call did not agree.:D
"As a sidebar to a story several years ago on the technology the NBA uses to monitor its refs, Kersey told me how he instantly knew he'd blown the call that gave Larry Johnson his famous four-point play and the Knicks an Eastern Conference Finals game victory over the Pacers. He walked the 20 blocks from Madison Square Garden to his hotel, he didn't sleep that night and the memory is a splinter forever imbedded in his conscience. "
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1287704&type=story
redsfanmia
03-17-2010, 04:51 PM
To bad the official who made the call did not agree.:D
"As a sidebar to a story several years ago on the technology the NBA uses to monitor its refs, Kersey told me how he instantly knew he'd blown the call that gave Larry Johnson his famous four-point play and the Knicks an Eastern Conference Finals game victory over the Pacers. He walked the 20 blocks from Madison Square Garden to his hotel, he didn't sleep that night and the memory is a splinter forever imbedded in his conscience. "
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1287704&type=story
But did he spend the bonus he got from David Stern himself for making the call and tipping the series to the large market Knicks?
Puffy
03-17-2010, 04:57 PM
Actually I was joking - but lets not forget the Knicks got hosed twice in the 90s by the refs too. The Miami series where they were about to win it until they had their whole team suspended for games 6 and 7, and the Bulls series where Charles Smith was mugged (although he still should have made at least one of the 700 put backs he had!!)
George Anderson
03-17-2010, 05:21 PM
But did he spend the bonus he got from David Stern himself for making the call and tipping the series to the large market Knicks?
Are you talking about Tim Donaghy?
redsfanmia
03-17-2010, 06:56 PM
Are you talking about Tim Donaghy?
I think Donaghy is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sabo30
03-19-2010, 09:11 AM
As a Pacer season ticket holder from 1990-2003, I can tell you there was nothing more exciting than the rivalries between the Knick's & Bull's. Market Square Arena was the most intense place to play in...kinda like old time Indiana high school basketball atmosphere!!!
During one part of the show....a NY commentator mentioned the NBA does not have anything like a Pacers vs. Knicks anymore....I couldn't agree more!
BTW... I hope Cleveland just kicks the livin' shat out of the Lackers this year!!!
Being from Indiana, and growing up in the 90's i always loved when the Pacers played the Knicks and Bulls. You knew you were always in for a great game. I take it this was a good documentary though? I wont get to see it till Wed night when they show it on AFN over here, but I'm looking forward to it.
improbus
03-21-2010, 08:26 PM
As I was watching this doc, I kept thinking the same thing. LeBron HAS to go to New York. As NBA fans, we need the Knicks and the Garden to be relevant again. What an awesome crowd. They are without a doubt the best fans in the NBA.
gilpdawg
03-23-2010, 09:02 AM
Rik Smits was at Marist College while I was growing up. We had season tickets and watched him from when he was a freshman til he left. And every single story you ever heard from people who talked to him was about what a good dude he was.
I still rooted for him when he was on the Pacers - it was the rest of the team that I actively rooted against. And the Larry Johnson call was the correct call!!
Go Knicks :D
Total homer view there. :D It's one of the worst calls in basketball history.
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