3/27/10- Reds @ Padres (ST) (WLW)

[Redsfan320]

Reds Lineup:

Chris Dickerson 8
Orlando Cabrera 6
Joey Votto 3
Scott Rolen 5
Jay Bruce 9
Jonny Gomes 7
Ramon Hernandez 2
Aaron Miles 4
Micah Owings 1

Reds Pitchers:

Owings (3)
Lincoln (3)
Masset (1)
Herrera (1)
TBA (1)

Cueto will also throw 6 in a minor league game today.

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[icehole3]

why is Lincoln getting 3, I'd rather see a AAA pitcher

[TheNext44]

With two outs, Votto doubles in the first, goes to third on a wild pitch but is left stranded when Rolen K's on a full count.

[TheNext44]

Gwynn K's
Eckstein 4-3
Hairston jr. singles
Hairston caught stealing

end 0-0

[TheNext44]

Bruce 4-3
Gomes singles

1 on, 1 out

[TheNext44]

Gomes out stealing (missed sign?)
Hernandez K's

0-0

[Ron Madden]

Listening to Jeff Brantley do PBP is brutal.

[Edd Roush]

Did any one else's GameTracker stop on them with no outs in the bottom of the sixth?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Pads score 2 in the inning off of Lincoln. Both are unearned runs due to the error that let Eckstien reach first. And that brings up something that's always bothered me. The error was by Lincoln. If the error is on the pitcher, shouldn't those runs be EARNED? I understand it if it's a teammate's mistake, but HE screwed the pooch...shouldn't he be held accountable?

[Tommyjohn25]

Pads score 2 in the inning off of Lincoln. Both are unearned runs due to the error that let Eckstien reach first. And that brings up something that's always bothered me. The error was by Lincoln. If the error is on the pitcher, shouldn't those runs be EARNED? I understand it if it's a teammate's mistake, but HE screwed the pooch...shouldn't he be held accountable?

Especially if said pitcher is Mike Lincoln. :cool:

[mth123]

Pads score 2 in the inning off of Lincoln. Both are unearned runs due to the error that let Eckstien reach first. And that brings up something that's always bothered me. The error was by Lincoln. If the error is on the pitcher, shouldn't those runs be EARNED? I understand it if it's a teammate's mistake, but HE screwed the pooch...shouldn't he be held accountable?

No because ERA is trying to measure his pitching not his fielding.

[Spring~Fields]

Reds 2 Padres 3

CINCINNATI AB R H BI SAN DIEGO AB R H BI
C Dickerson cf 4 0 0 0 T Gwynn cf 4 0 2 0
O Cabrera ss 3 1 0 0 M Adams p 0 0 0 0
J Votto 1b 3 1 2 2 H Bell p 0 0 0 0
S Rolen 3b 2 0 0 0 L Martinez ph 1 0 1 1
C Burke 3b 1 0 0 0 D Eckstein 2b 2 1 0 0
J Bruce rf 4 0 0 0 L Zawadzki ss 1 0 0 0
J Gomes lf 3 0 3 0 J Hairston Jr. ss 3 1 3 0
R Hernandez c 3 0 1 0 C Stansberry 2b-3 1 0 0 0
W Castillo c 1 0 0 0 A Gonzalez 1b 3 0 0 0
A Miles 2b 3 0 0 0 C Hunter lf 1 0 0 0
M Owings p 1 0 0 0 K Blanks lf 3 0 0 0
N Masset p 0 0 0 0 A Dykstra 1b 1 0 0 0
D Herrera p 0 0 0 0 C Headley 3b 2 0 1 2
D Sutton ph 1 0 0 0 C Figueroa 2b 1 0 0 0
M Lincoln p 1 0 0 0 Y Torrealba c 3 0 0 0
D Joseph p 0 0 0 0 C Stewart c 0 1 0 0
A Cunningham rf 3 0 1 0
B Davis rf 1 0 1 0
T Stauffer p 0 0 0 0
S Gallagher p 1 0 0 0
W Pelzer p 0 0 0 0
M Stairs ph 1 0 0 0
B Tekotte cf 0 0 0 0
TOTALS 30 2 6 2 TOTALS 32 3 9 3


Reds Batting
2B: Votto (2, Stauffer).
HR: Votto (3, 9th inning off Bell, 1 on, 0 out).
TB: Votto 6; Gomes 3; Hernandez, Ra.
RBI: Votto 2 (11).

Reds Baserunning
SB: Votto (3, 2nd base off Pelzer/Stewart).
CS: Gomes (1, 2nd base by Stauffer/Torrealba).

Reds Fielding
E: Lincoln (1, missed catch).
Pickoffs: Hernandez, Ra (Cunningham at 2nd base).


IP H R ER BB SO HR
CINCINNATI
M Owings 3 1 0 0 1 3 0
N Masset 1 1 0 0 2 2 0
D Herrera 1 2 0 0 0 1 0
M Lincoln 3 3 2 0 0 2 0
D Joseph 1-3 2 1 1 2 0 0

SAN DIEGO
T Stauffer 4 2 0 0 0 4 0
S Gallagher 2 2 0 0 0 1 0
W Pelzer 1 0 0 0 2 0 0
M Adams 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
H Bell 1 2 2 2 0 0 1


Reds/Padres
Pitches-strikes:
Owings 44-25, Masset 25-12, Herrera 13-7, Lincoln 48-30, Joseph, D 20-9,
Stauffer 45-32, Gallagher 31-22, Pelzer 22-7, Adams, M 11-8, Bell 17-10.

Groundouts-flyouts:
Owings 2-3, Masset 0-1, Herrera 0-0, Lincoln 6-1, Joseph, D 1-0, Stauffer 3-3,
Gallagher 2-3, Pelzer 3-0, Adams, M 2-0, Bell 2-1.

Batters faced:
Owings 10, Masset 6, Herrera 3, Lincoln 13, Joseph, D 5, Stauffer 13,
Gallagher 7, Pelzer 5, Adams, M 3, Bell 6.

[TheNext44]

No because ERA is trying to measure his pitching not his fielding.

Another problem with ERA.

You would want a pitcher's stat to tell you how good he is at preventing the other team from scoring. It should measure the things that he can control. His own fielding is definitely something he can control.

[PuffyPig]

Another problem with ERA.

You would want a pitcher's stat to tell you how good he is at preventing the other team from scoring. It should measure the things that he can control. His own fielding is definitely something he can control.

SO, BAPIP would have to be fasctored in, if you want to only measure things he can control....

[HeatherC1212]

Nice to see Joey hitting a little more as we get closer and closer to Opening Day. :D

[RED VAN HOT]

Another problem with ERA.

You would want a pitcher's stat to tell you how good he is at preventing the other team from scoring. It should measure the things that he can control. His own fielding is definitely something he can control.

I may be wrong about this, but I think that a run scored on a wild pitch is earned, while one that scores on a passed ball is not.

As a side note, the Padres broadcasters reported that on a subsequent ground ball to first, Votto waived off Lincoln and jokingly said "I'll take it, you screwed up the last one." Gotta love spring training.